RSSAACS LA Versus Digg, Google in DMCA Showdown Over Leaked Key
By Scott M. Fulton, III | Published May 2, 2007, 12:00 PM
Beginning two weeks ago, attorneys for the licensing authority for the Advanced Access Copy System used in both Blu-ray and HD DVD issued letters to multiple Web sites and services, including search engines, demanding they remove direct references to a 32-hexadecimal digit code they claim is a processing key that could be used to circumvent DRM protection in HD DVD discs.
"It is our understanding that you are providing to the public the above-identified tools and services at the above referenced URL," reads one letter sent by AACS LA's attorneys to a representative of Google, "and are thereby providing and offering to the public a technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof that is primarily designed, produced, or marketed for the purpose of circumventing the technological protection measures afforded by AACS (hereafter, the "circumvention offering"). Doing so constitutes a violation of the anti-circumvention provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act."
The letter goes on to demand the removal of references to four Web sites whose articles include the code, as well as to any other material where the code may appear, otherwise "failure to do so will subject you to legal liability." In an extra bit of irony, the document filename in one of the four URLs the attorneys cite is actually the 32-bit code itself.
The key in question appears to be the same one discovered by the Doom9 Forum user whose screen handle is arnezami, back in February as reported then by BetaNews. What this user discovered, other forum members verified, was a media key that software could use to identify itself as a validly licensed media player of HD DVD discs. While Linux media players could theoretically read the code from HD DVDs, they cannot decrypt that code since AACS LA has thus far declined to issue licenses - and thus, licensed media keys as well - to creators of open-source software, who could theoretically share that code in the act of source code distribution.
Word does not travel as fast as those who repeat online what they read elsewhere online believe it to; and thus, the existence of the discovered media key was only widely reported after a Digg user posted a link to an article where that key happened to appear. That article, appearing Monday on the blog Rudd-O.com - almost two and a half months after the key's discovery - begins with the key itself, explains its discovery on the Doom9 Forum, and links to a 17-page autobiographical feature of the fellows who found it on Doom9 (through Digg) and repeated it on Rudd-O.com, entitled, "Stickin' It to the Man: The Illustrated Report of an Epic Event."
That article which links to "Stickin' It to the Man" was itself Dugg, by way of another blog post - this time entitled, "Spread This Number. Now." - which the author then self-Dugg, and in so doing, generated by his count 15,492 Diggs (votes of approval from Digg.com users).
It is that article with the high Digg count which caught the attention of AACS LA's attorneys, who immediately issued a takedown notice. At first, Digg complied, removing references to "Spread This Number" and other material. In an explanation on Digg's corporate blog, CEO Jay Adelson wrote, "We've been notified by the owners of this intellectual property that they believe the posting of the encryption key infringes their intellectual property rights. In order to respect these rights and to comply with the law, we have removed postings of the key that have been brought to our attention.
"Our goal is always to maintain a purely democratic system for the submission and sharing of information," Adelson continued, "and we want Digg to continue to be a great resource for finding the best content. However, in order for that to happen, we all need to work together to protect Digg from exposure to lawsuits that could very quickly shut us down."
Digg also apparently suspended the accounts of individuals who provided the original Digg links, including the one to "Spread This Number," as its author posted on his own blog last night. However, multiple Diggs to the original Digg, including comments generated there, apparently remained.
There was an immediate public outcry from Digg users - which, for a story that took two and a half months to germinate, is perhaps noteworthy. However, many of the thousands of comments posted to already long threads appear to consist of meaningless data, side discussions irrelevant to the topic, spam, and even cute little pictures drawn with ANSI characters.
Regardless of the substance of the protest, it was enough to provoke Digg's executives to reverse their course. In a blog post late last night whose title actually includes the media key code, Digg founder Kevin Rose wrote, "Today was a difficult day for us. We had to decide whether to remove stories containing a single code based on a cease and desist declaration. We had to make a call, and in our desire to avoid a scenario where Digg would be interrupted or shut down, we decided to comply and remove the stories with the code. But now, after seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, you've made it clear. You'd rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company.
"If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying," Rose concluded. Exactly what action Digg takes from this point on was not stated.
Next: Much hexadecimal ado about &00H?
I have decided the number one belongs to me. I am using it as an encryption key so the DMCA protects my ownership and control of that number. The DMCA protects even the most feeble of encryption schemes including mine.
Just did a quick Google and it looks like almost every website in the world is blatantly displaying my number. I gotta go call my lawyer.
My advice to you, don't get too comfortable using any of the integers on your web pages. I am going to start staking claim to a few more of em.
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|I found this while searching Blu_Ray fanboys....
http://img514.imageshack...sonycheerleadersox2.png
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|A geez... I was hoping that last photo would never come out.... part of the reason why I ended up here at the Clinic for mentally schizophrenic Paedophiliacs (CF-MSP) and the main reason I've been away from my beloved Beta News for such a long time. Perhaps my incarceration was a result of my insistence that the cheer leaders be at least 5 years younger and wear nothing but Blu-ray media for a dazzling light show extravaganza... realizing now the cost of blank Blu-ray media I understand my error and in hindsight should have stuck to my original aluminum can proposal, beit a less flashy affair.... my 3 ton can collection obtained during my 3 month stint of community service would have come in useful.
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|F*CK THEM.
09 F9 11 02
9D 74 E3 5B
D8 41 56 C5
63 56 88 C0
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|OMG! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!11
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|Social aspects aside, the legal issue is that Digg posted it within the context of its purpose. That's where they f-d up. If they had simply posted the string, without any mention of what it was "for", they could have remained completely untouchable. Once you divulge the context of something it's no longer the "thing" itself, but the "thing" within the "context" that matters. I can spew out numbers and strings all day, but if I describe one of them as a key that breaks into a bank's central database system, I'm breaking the law.
However, from a social aspect, the key is "out" and they'll NEVER get it back in the bottle. It's too late. And now that the attorneys have thrown more gasoline on the fire, it will only continue to worsen for them. The key will be copied and reposted forever. They should have consulted some PR folks and realized that keeping silent would have done them far better. Just goes to show that attorneys aren't PR geniuses.
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|As we all know, there are hundreds of legal spats between companies and individuals going on all over the world in regards to copywrite, patents, entertainment licensing, and all other areas of "intellectual property rights".
At the end of the day it will all be irrelevant because it's the public - especially that portion of the public with technical know-how - that decide what does and does not happen on their PCs and devices in their homes, and if enough people do what the hell they want DESPITE what the law says (and they ARE), then that law is unenforcible by definition.
This has been the case for about 10 years now, since the first days of Napster & co, yet still the suits and moneymakers think they can regain control! Idiots.
More and more unenforcible laws and irrelevant court decisions have do nothing more than waste time and money that would be better spent on innovation.
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|It's not that I disagree with you to an extent, but... taking your logic at face value, you're saying that laws against criminal acts like murder and rape are irrelevant as long as people who are capable of performing those acts choose to do so.
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|09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0_@
09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0_*
09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0_!
09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0_!!
09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0_+()
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|hi
09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0_
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|09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0
09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0
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|09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0
09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0
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|This is hilarious. Dudes came out with a weak-ass protection, and now they're acting like its not their fault.
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|The DMCA protects their copy protection no matter how good or bad it is. This means they do not have to spend money, time or talent developing a system that actually works. They could broadcast it in analog flipped upside down and call that copy protection then sue you for turning a screen upside down to watch the "protected" signal.
As I said before, the DMCA was a bad idea.
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|I am torn between the right of a group, to protect its interests, and them basicly bulling google into losing some freedom with their search engine.
I am not a lawyer so I will leave the next statement up to them, but is a link to material that is nothing without the tools actually illegal?
I mean is a website with just the code posted, that is public knowlege at this point, against the law?
Clearly tools that would use the code might be illegal, links to the movie for download at illegal. But is text that is harmless alone, something that they can clearly fix in future movie releases, illegal?
If its not illegal, will google fight back for their own rights, and perhaps protect our rights in the future?
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|They certainly have a right to protect their media from unauthorized redistribution. They should not have the right to protect the protection system itself outside of the built in technological means to do so.
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|It's even on T-s***s fercrissakes!
LMAO.
Watch the corporate bully-boys rush to close the stable door days after the horse has bolted.
Greedy fools.......which is what lies at the heart of this whole DRM BS.
If 'they' stopped wasting money (which the consumer ultimately pays) on this supposed 'security' cr@p (that has never remained uncracked or unavoided, ever) and stopped spending fortunes on lawyers and lobbyists who make lucrative entire careers trying to persuade our Gov.s to turn our law into the corporate plaything it is rapidly becoming
and
then had the sense & balls to pass on the savings to the customer rather than pocket them then my bet is 'piracy' would shrink to negligible levels.
Sooner or later someone (shareholders?) has got to ask about this gross waste of money & the sales it is now losing them.
DRM is now known to be losing companies sales.
......and of course the fact that their own legal internet sales now make up for their claimed 'physical sales losses' and the music & movie businesses have never made so much money is just conveniently ignored in their 'piracy' BS.
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|Where were these lawyers; when college students published the formula to make a nuclear bomb? It isn't illegal to write books about how to cultivate marijuana or make narcotic drugs on the kitchen stove. Another publisher sells a collection of how to make illegal machineguns and silencers and bombs.
And no law is broken, unless you get caught actually doing those criminal acts! Common sense tells me that there is nothing illegal about publishing a bunch of damned DRM code, and only the person who actually uses it breaks any laws.
You know the US Government is corrupt and incompetent; when they worry more about a cracked DVD, than a criminal obtaining illegal weapons, because they can actually find those "how to" books in a damned public library.
And that is how the infamous Timothy McVeigh learned to mix fuel oil and fertilizer; so he could blow up the federal building and kill 169 people in Oklahoma City. What IDIOTS...
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|well i would like to see a private citizen find the materials to make a nuclear bomb.....
and there was nothing illegal about McVeeigh's materials until he made a bomb out of it.
that being said, you are right about them being incompetent.
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|well i would like to see a private citizen find the materials to make a nuclear bomb.
Those college students published the formula. McVeigh obtained the know how, to make bombs from a public source. Then he did it.
On the other hand these movie studio lawyers are filing lawsuits against people; who merely know how to pirate a DVD and are not accused of actually doing it themselves. SAME thing. DOUBLE standard of proof...
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|http://www.cafepress.com...ource_searchBox/x_0/y_0
I wonder how many people have flocked to buy clothing with this number on it...
This will last as long as American Idol's Sanjaya market swell.
http://www.bwild.com/saismyidt.html
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|Want some art?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9HaNbsIfp0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDZ_OCPG2fg
Take a look what MPAA thinks about it: http://tinyurl.com/yvot34
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|Those are clasic. This is the new "all your base"
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|http://www.google.com/se...D+09+f9&btnG=Search
Seriously, censoring user comments here is not going to stop people from finding anything else. I suppose BN has to do it so they can cover themselves.
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|Let's take up a collection to have a little solar-powered rover-bot launched up to the moon. Once deployed, it will roll around and write the entire string across the face of the moon. Then it will self-destruct. Need the key? Look up! Make them send their own rover up to erase it. :)
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|You don't want it to self destruct. Let it sit there and wait for their rover to arrive and then it's battle bots on the moon!
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|it better have a carbide saw, or else its just not cool. or a laser....
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|Heh heh - LASERs are cool indeed.
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|Sorry if its leaked its all fair games.
Nobody sued the pentagon when there were leaks from the breifings that the politicans got from the Generals about IRAQ.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
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|what about this key?
FU AA CS LA DI ED IE DI ED MC AA SU CK SB AL LS
Read that, stupid DRM makers...
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|Xbox 360 HD DVD player was weak link in HD DVD crack
http://www.gametrailers.com/viewnews.php?id=4553
"Next week, new HD DVD movies will hit the shelves that won't play on some players, the first countermeasure by the content and software industries to combat intensive efforts by hackers to break copy-protection technology."
Seems from next week, lots of movies won't play in current HD-DVD players... Oh dear...
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|Even current HD-DVD movies are broken..
http://www.highdefdigest...Replacement_Program/603
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|BetaNews:
Stop deleting posts, you utter bunch of pansies.
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|Yeah... that'll work. Negative score in 3... 2...
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|I don't think I've ever seen a negative score.
Think of all the flamers in here, do they have negative scores?
Heck, I'd set a precedent. I could be a leader in all things flame.
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|There's like 5 of them on this story alone.
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|Change your BetaNews profile settings to display negative score posts and those "deleted" posts will show back up.
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|Before this story was posted, I never really noticed a negative score for anything.
And I'm proud to announce that somehow, I currently hold the record for having a score of -2.
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|My bad.
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|Glad that helped. :)
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|lol
Again, Congrats.
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|Some lawyer should post the number with one number wrong. and wait for the letter. then sue the AACS.
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|lol ....
does that mean
that MICROSOFT can sue me
if i post the current time
just because i saw it in the windows
built-in clock ??
"the sequence 12:28 is part of our code, either pay us royalties every time you use it or stop using the time" ... LOL
Or better yet ....
by posting either AM or PM im infringing in copyright because im helping people DECODE time ??
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|very VERY interesting observation
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|Actually, that's much too close to the truth.
You must leave at once.
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|How ignorant can you be?
Your password is just a sequence of letters and numbers too (hopefully some special characters too). I'm sure you would have no problem if that was published all over the web? What about your social security number? Credit Cards? Bank account numbers?
I'm not saying the AACS is right, but you can't just compare any arbitrary string of characters to another. It doesn't work that way.
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|AACS - Im sorry but you cannot patent numbers
nor sequences just because you think you can.
BN - Stop being so lame, the sequence "09_f9_11_02_9d_74_e3_5b_d8_41_56_c5_63_56_88_c0"
is a mere string of numbers put in a specific order, and nobody, not even the AACS can claim rights over numbers, nor the order in which they're placed.
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|exactly
thats like patenting
4+4=8
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|this is MY code
(_)_)======B ~ ~ AACS
nobody use it, or ill sue you
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|Ummm... mods?
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|Pretty soon they'll ban the use of the number 80,085.
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|you mean ( . Y . )
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|Good. I was worried the comma and the lack of a decent font would throw people off. :D
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|Haha! Wow...
Anyway, so what now? Code's been posted - it's on everything from T-s***s to caps to mousepads. I have to admit I havent been keeping up on this DRM business, partially because it doesn't pertain to me yet. Which is bad. I decided to hopefully wait until this is over, vs. ending up with an HD/BR player that can't play newer dvds.
Is it a matter of simply patching the players themselves now? Or will a more drastic approach be taken?
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|from update on page 2A spokesperson for the HD DVD Promotions Group denied to BetaNews late this afternoon that the organization had any involvement in the sending of takedown notices to Web sites and search engines. Press reports have cited, in addition to the AACS Licensing Authority, the HD DVD Promotions Group and the Motion Picture Association of America as being behind these notices; to the best of BetaNews' knowledge, and based on the spokesperson's comments to us, we believe these reports to be inaccurate.
Uh...you're censoring comments. Apparently you've either received one of these, or are simply being overly cautious (much to my disappointment).
Which is it? We'd all love to know.
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|I would just like to know what the hell the last sentence means. Are they saying they believe the spokesperson? Why would ANYBODY EVER BELIEVE A SPOKESPERSON?
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|lmao...
To true.
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|I was wondering about that as well...
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|Would you like an extra o with your comment, Sir?
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|D'oh!
Ya got me.
*slaps hand*
Um, my keyboard....has a cold. Yeah, that's it.
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|I'm still unclear as to whether you can play copied HD-DVD or Blu-Ray movies (lets assume you burned them to the proper media that can store the entire movie like a 25GB BD-R or an HD-DVD-R) on an actual player or are they only viewable on a PC using software like PowerDVD?
The fact that what I can only assume are non-college graduates cracked this silly system in what amounts to no time at all is great.
I also noticed Sony's new protection on movies like Stranger Than Fiction is pretty tough, but alas, the movie doesnt actually play in about 50% of all DVD players......even Sony's.
Way to go!
One more thing, why is the HD-DVD camp making such a big deal out of this while BD sits back? Blu-Ray titles are popping up on Bit Torrent just as fast as HD-DVD titles are and they key applies to both formats. Almost every story linked to this hex number, which seems to be the next "Pi" only mentions HD-DVD.
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|Because HD-DVD is the only format that matters? :p
*ducks into flame-proof tent*
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|I guess HDDVD camp just thinks they can somehow behefit from this failure. Its as good excuse as any to kill websites/forums/whatever that harbor ter... i mean copyright violators.
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|you know you wouldnt need that flame proof tent if you didnt think for yourself.....
thats very un-american, thinking for yourself....
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|I know, how undemocratic of me.
*shakes head*
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|Copy protection does not need to work, it just needs to be attempted to afford it protection under the law. This is more evidence as to why the DMCA was a bad idea.
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|This is the first I've heard about this magical key. Seriously. I knew there were keys floating around but not the "master".
I did a Google search with just the 32 digit key and the results were hilarious. I love the fact that they are going crazy over this, drawing more and more attention to it.
Now, people who didnt know s*** about BD or HD-DVD are reading the stories and learning about the DRM laced formats.
Not only that, but more sites are posting the key purposely to piss them off.
I can't wait to see where this goes. Those poor idiots selling T-s***s on eBay will be next ones to get sued. They will do it just to bankrupt someone even though they know they would lose in court.
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|so if one got it tattooed on them and walked around displaying it.....?
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|They would probably try and order it surgically removed from your skin.
I want it on a T-s*** :D
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|i wonder how long before goldenpalace casinos incorperate this into their logo and tattoo it on someone.
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|Is this some late april fools joke gone bad or something? Its like they are seriously trying to erase any reference to this HEX number...
Simply retarded.
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|Ha. Look at this:
http://blog.digg.com/?p=74
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|That is fantastic. Thanks for the link! :)
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|It's a bit misleading that the title of this article suggests Google is involved in the "showdown", other than the fact that they (like probably every other search engine) received a C&D letter.
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|Apparently the fact that they haven't ceased or desisted is why they're in the showdown:
http://www.google.com/search?q=HD-DVD++volume+key
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|There is now only half a million sites mentioning that now. Good luck trying to get google to remove everything. That will just lead to millions of more sites. Face it AACS lawyers are facing a battle already lost from the get go. Trying to hurt digg just leads to bad publicity, more media coverage and soon everyone knows about this key they are trying to keep top secret.
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|What a great song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9HaNbsIfp0
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|What if someone decides to name their baby after the key sequence? Can they legally force a person's name change?
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|I don't think you can use numbers in your name.
I may be wrong.
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|I think people can use numbers..
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|roflmao...
Now *that* was clever.
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|Either this story is going to be deleted or the comments section will disappear in no time.
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|*Pffft*
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|Bah... It is now general public knowledge.
BetaNews has nothing to fear, they're just playing along. :D
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|Johnny5.
That has a number in it.
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|ROFL
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|That may be true. I just don't like the idea of pushing the trigger-happy MPAA and AACS lawyers.
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|http://www.johnny-five.com/
Apparently it's spelt 'Johnny Five'.
And erm... I didn't research that or anything... *mumble*
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|Eh, Prince had a symbol for a name...
Just goes to show that with enough money in this world, anything is possible.
Mike
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|Then you just spell it out like "zero nine eff nine won won zero too nine dee seven fore ee three five bee dee ate fore won five six see five six three five six ate ate see zero"
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|...unless it's over a cliff.
....or under a moving bus...
...or into a pool of acid...
You get the point.
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|...or into a lake of fire...
...oh wait. That's where they came from. My bad.
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|lol.
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|ROFLCOPTER
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|Lol... that comment got a score of 1!? I've hardly ever seen anyone get a score over 0. Don't get me wrong. I know I'm great, but did that comment really deserve a 1?
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|If anyone else posts that number on this page, I will personally come to their house and destroy their computer.
It's everywhere guys. Don't insult our intelligence and/or bring the wrath of AACS upon Betanews. I'm sure the readers know they can find it anywhere in one search.
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|09 F9 11 [AACS Media Key code redacted] 56 88 C0
See you in a few hours. ;)
(It's the one at the end of the block, on the corner. Big and yellow. Can't miss it.)
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|can the mods please stop giving -1 score ....
(or whoever the f*ck is giving it)
pissing people off in public forums is not a good idea ....
look at the incident over at fark.com
not to mention digg
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|Is he there yet...is he there yet?!
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|Et tu PC_Tool?
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|Whaddaya gonna do, blow my computer up?
:p
Thought not...
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|What's your IP?
*mischievous grin*
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|127.0.0.1, why? *grin*
Oh, wait, it's also 192.168.0.100.
Oh...and 0db8:0000:0000:0000:0000:1428:57ab (IPv6)
:p
Have fun....
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|Why'd I get modded down and not Das Mod? You like him better, don't you Scott. :P
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|Hmmm... well your IP was pretty easy to hack actually. I got full access in less than 2 minutes. Your ping was less than 1ms. Are you next door or something?
Well anyway, I have access to all your files now. Wait... why do you have my e-mail on your computer!?
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|I copied everything, man.
...wait.
It took you two minutes to hack 127.0.0.1???
lmao...
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|What can I say? It takes a while for Metasploit to load. =p
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|Ah, yes...well....
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|AACSLAOOOSEEER.
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|Did someone mention 09 F9 11 [AACS Media Key code redacted] 56 88 C0 ?
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|Well that was dumb.
Good job, genius.
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|i dont see whats wrong with posting this
09 F9 11 [AACS Media Key code redacted] 56 88 C0
they're even making s***s with the code printed on ...
"Got 09 F9 11 [AACS Media Key code redacted] 56 88 C0"
lol
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|I quit digg last night over this. I think their initial reaction of deleting stories/accounts sends a message, and I intend to send one back. Kevin's "apology" seems much more like damage control after a day's worth of revolt.
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|I saw all of that.
I love the stories that say "F*** you DIGG!" and "Digg sucks!"
All the while, they are being posted to the very service they claim is the recipient of their deepest hatred.
...just a little ironic.
Meh, this will all blow over once Digg realizes it's useless to try to block anything and all the stupid story-submitting sheep realize the excitement is over. Then everything will be back to normal.
***EDIT***
Either everyone stopped posting those stories, or Digg got really good at blocking them. There's not a single story about it to be found. Glad to see I can find the usual content on Digg now. It was getting really annoying there for a while.
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|Exactly how many others saw it. PR damage control.
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|It was getting really annoying there for a while.
So...typical Digg, then? :p
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|lol... true. That's why I usually just read the stories and skip the comments altogether.
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|I wont use digg anymore due to their blatant disregard for their users.
We will continue to [K] BluRay and HDDVD simply because they are being such azzwipes about it.
Join us, you know where we be...
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|Not a bad idea for this place, lately...
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|No, I just quit it. I don't visit it, I don't contribute. I guess I don't care enough about making a statement about a service when there are others that abound and don't treat me as a criminal.
I don't care what other users do. I find it absurd that one would be a member of a group and that groups core beliefs differ from your own. Hence why religion is also a silly self-centered experiment in failure.
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|I fell into that a few months ago, believe it or not I just read a few by users I enjoy... yours tool, are the only entertaining and half-way intelligent ones really... -_-
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|Felten is right.
The key is already everywhere. I saw t-s***s with the key for sale on eBay yesterday.
There's a thousand and one websites devoted entirely to the key already. They'll never remove it now. All the effort to delete stories and block pages is useless.
Just give up already.
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|You think the AACS's efforts to remove the code only made it worse?
People jumped on the bandwagon that the AACS set rolling, and a lot are even making profit from it.
BTW, if you use John the Ripper to crack the key (O9f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0) as a MD5 hash, it's actually wincement's IP.
That's right, you heard it here first. It's on the internet, and the internet can't lie. (I read that on the internet.)
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|You think the AACS's efforts to remove the code only made it worse?
Was never said or implied in the comment you are responding to.
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|Wow... Congratulations. That's the first time I've seen a -2 score on a comment. I wonder how you earn that.
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|Same here. That had to take talent.
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|I know it wasn't implied, I was just wondering what wincement's opinion was since he pointed out how many people are going out of their way to post the code. I doubt so many people would be posting the code if the AACS didn't have a pissy fit about it.
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|True. A big part of anything people do is based on the reaction they expect to receive.
My post above under wincement's threat being a prime example. I expected a smart-ass and entertaining reply. Had I not, I probably wouldn't have posted it.
Thankfully, wincement delivered as usual and we had some fun. And hey, it was at the expense of AACS, so ya gotta love that.
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|*Is tempted to link to it from here*
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|The eternal Cat&Mouse game continues....
Much hexadecimal ado about &00H?
That was awesome. :D
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