AMD's Athlon Neo processor will take on Intel's Atom
By Scott M. Fulton, III | Published January 6, 2009, 7:17 PM
As the netbook platform takes shape this year at CES, AMD is giving a more focused picture of what the inside of that platform could look like...but not too focused, at least not for a few days yet.
What AMD had been calling its "Yukon" notebook processing platform and will now call...something else, was officially unveiled this morning with HP effectively beating AMD to the punch. Its new dv2 line of netbooks will include AMD's new Athlon Neo processor, the centerpiece of the CPU maker's new netbook platform.
Until this Thursday, when AMD makes a series of presentations at CES 2009 including a major speech from CEO Dirk Meyer, only a limited amount of information is being shared about the Neo platform. What we know so far is that it's designed for "low profile" implementation.
The typical Athlon processor for desktop form factors measures about 63 x 80 mm, with a die size on-board the package of about 120 mm2. The Neo package is 27 x 27 mm, which is considerably more convenient for netbook component designers to implement. Remember, there isn't yet a mass production market for netbook motherboards similar to that for desktops.
By comparison, Intel's Atom die size is 13 x 14 mm, and has a total footprint of 182 mm.
Seven years ago, AMD led the charge to reduce die size for processors, with the Athlon brand leading the way. Back before the summer of 2006, while AMD's "true multicore" competed head-to-head against the first Pentium Ds, small die size was one of AMD's key advantages, leading directly to power conservation.
But the Neo vs. Atom battle is not just for the netbook market, but also for embedded computing as well, where Atom has already found its footing. While Intel's keynote address is scheduled for this Friday, it's likely that Chairman Craig Barrett and others will be focusing on media-related topics, including those areas where Intel is making inroads outside of the traditional PC market. That includes set-top boxes, which is a market that Intel has continued to serve with basically repackaged 95 nm Pentiums. AMD officially exited the STB chip market last August, in a deal which saw the transfer of its Xilleon product line to SoC maker Broadcom.
If Neo is as versatile in the small processing department as Atom, however, AMD could re-enter that market with a competitive platform. But for now, the Neo platform is rooted to ATI's graphics processors, which include its Radeon X1250 integrated graphics chip and its Radeon HD 3410 discrete processor for decoding high-definition video. As long as AMD markets Neo as paired with ATI, it will probably be perceived as a netbook processing platform only, competing with Atom in only one of two very lucrative markets.
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9:03 pm EST January 6, 2009 - A few more details for you: Compared to AMD's Sempron processor for ultra-thin notebooks, both it and the Athlon Neo MV-40 are 15 W single-core 65 nm CPUs, capable of 64-bit. But the MV-40 is clocked slightly faster at 1.6 GHz, and doubles its L2 cache over the Sempron to 512 KB.
Asus, MSI, Lenovo, anyone who would care to listen!!
I want an AMD widescreen thinbook!! One whose touchpad is on the Right!! (they could make some for lefties too!) If someone makes this (cheap?), I am going to buy it!! Just make sure it runs King's Bounty!
I don't need a palmrest on my thinbook, whether on the go or on the table. While walking, I should be able the thumb through my thinbook while holding it (securely) with both hands!
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|this article is a little misleading. the Neo wasnt intended to go head-to-head with the Atom. it was designed to be a more powerful middleweight CPU sitting in between netbooks and full desktops. It was designed from day 1 to be more powerful (and more power-using) than the C-7 (and now Isiah and Atom) but less powerful than even a standard mobile CPU like the Turion X2 or mobile C2D.
it will compete in some strong netbooks as well as the integrated desktop niche of the Atom but isn't intended to be an Atom vs Neo CPU with companies taking sides in their $300 netbooks. (AMD honestly knows it would lose)
http://www.bit-tech.net/...w-ultra-thin-platform/1
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|The Value Pricing economic model at work.
And now we will get to listen to the Intel and AMD fanboys again argue about that which they know nothing about. Yawn.
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|This CPU will not win any awards and will not be any better then the Atom but if it makes the netbooks cheaper then bring it
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|Doesn't this processor process instructions out of order similar to Pentium Pro and later processors? If so, this will provide a MASSIVE performance increase over Intel's Atom processor while having equally low power usage.
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|The power consumption isn't really comparable. The max TDP on the n270 atom processor is 2.5 watts. For the very small netbooks that are using a small 4 cell battery this probably wouldn't get a very desirable battery life. This would probably be practical for a compact laptop with a screen size in more of the 10-12" range where you could use a higher power processor. For a laptop with a more conventional sized battery the higher performance will be worth the hit on battery life.
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|SO, 256 isn't enough cache for an ulraportable, eh, AMD?? Certainly didn't stop you from cranking out all those crippled Semprons.
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