was simply speaking in processor and program speed.. not dialup speed.. gotta think.. thats only 56k... ::sigh:: kids

I used AOL for 3 years and had alot of fun and even helped in the Help chat rooms...Learned alot of things and it's really good to see AOL moving up the numbers (AOL 8.0) I used AOL 8.0 about 8 months ago when I was a beta tester.It's really an XP'ish looking GUI..No problems with it at all 'cept for some areas that were not working or implemented....AOL without Gecko ? I thought it would do something like that or even use Netscape.

Anybody have a screenshot?

Here: http://msbeta.tripod.com/AOL8.JPG

http://a.r.tv.com/cnet.1d/i/int/aol8/scrn.gif

Who are you or I to judge a company which has brought so many people onto the Internet? You probably pay very little for your current ISP, you've mass amounts of content on the web, and many other luxuries which may not have been available had AOL not been here in the first place.

I don't use AOL, but I once did. It doesn't serve my particular needs anymore, as I can find just about the same content for free on a website. I have family members who aren't technically adept and don't know where to look to find information. It's served up to them on a digital platter via AOL and they're happy. If they're happy and technology is serving their needs, then thats awesome in my opinion.

AOL has problems (privacy problems is my greatest concern) but who doesn't? Microsoft has problems. Linux community has problems. They're all great though and complement eachother and make this thing called the Internet that much greater and popular. And guess what? I get a job out of it and get to do what I like best: programming software to serve my clients' needs (my software never has problems though, I'm just that good ;)

My 200 Euros ($0.02)

AOL is still bandwidth hog. I don't use it, but my sniffer tells me I'm getting a hell of a lot of bandwidth wasting UDP and TCP/IP port traffic trying hit my machine from AOL Servers.

56k V.90 was not made a standard until 1998, not 1994. You can also use AOL with any broadband connection. A lot of the people who do use AOL use it for the community or for the content. Just because you aren't interested in those things, that doesn't mean it's useless for everyone. As a "power user", I would assume you would have tried Mozilla (many power users like it better than IE), which is a great Web browser and funded in part by AOL. If not, you should give it a try. By the way, slander is spoken - what you wrote is libel.

Is 8.0 using IE or Netscape? Has AOL finally decided to back its other endeavours or are they still going to complain about IE being dominant?

Taken from eWEEK's "AOL Version 8.0 Beta Gets Personal" article.

The first beta build runs with Microsoft Corp.'s Internet Explorer in lieu of the company's Netscape core Gecko engine.

But would like to know what they ended up using.

where can I download AOL 8 from, as I am in UK keyword upgrade won't work....

Thanks People.

AOL 8.0 GM still uses IE. :x

And having noticed that lots of bugs I've reported in AOL's beta center over and over and over and over that are *still* present in the GM release (considering how unresponsive their beta staff are, I'm not in the least bit surprised), I view this one as way too buggy for prime-time.

They're still using IE.

Motherfaskers. :( Why not Mozilla?????

did you download it? i cant download it too...

pls send it to me ;)
or just a link

jamesgarnerbs@aol.com

because it blows?

version 8 runs about as fast as 7 and its far better.. keep up the good work aol staff.. even thou ive gone the way of at&t broadband

as fast as aol7 would still be slow.

aol7 is actually pretty fast.. if you keep with the times and use a modern computer instead of your 486

excuse me, you must be a newbie or something. 56k is not fast at all. and i dont have a 486; that must be something you have since you consider aol to be fast.

>> as fast as aol7 would still be slow.

Have you even used AOL besides only hearing what others are saying? I'm pretty sure you're one of those people who say AMD is the best processor just because everyone else says so.

Ha. That's a joke. hahahahahahaha. ok i'm done laughing. It's so productive too - with popup ads galore, marketing, porno e-mail. That just makes AOL a pleasure to use! I love companies that sell their customer's personal information. Common, get real internet, AOL-free. AOL is pathetic.

In response to whether people who criticize AOL have ever used it, or are just repeating hearsay:

When I see friends who are AOL users willingly tolerate the experience -- blithely accepting "the software that has been pulled over their eyes to blind them from the truth" -- I want to cry.

"AOL is mediocre software. That software is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters, the very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still users of that software and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many of them are so hopelessly dependant on the software that they will fight to defend its reputation."

;-)

That's a very well put statement, but the sense of it is totally pointless. Nobody is forcing anybody to use the software, and your idea of "saving" is childish. Grow up and look at real facts before quoting something that probably doesn't even make sense to you.

--Andrey

Why do some people think that only if someone is "forced," it constituted an unfortunate captivation of a demographic by a product? This attitude supposes that there's no such thing as "unfortunate marketing," and it reflects naivete about operant conditioning in general. I find it hugely ironic that you're showing yourself oblivious to the machine, while supposing that I don't understand my own allusion.

FWIW, my post was tongue in cheek, but with a kernel of just analogy. But the free will of consumers isn't a sufficient justification of the success of a product. The illicit drug trade proves that and, come to think of it, might just fund yet another analogy. I'll think about it.

;-)

once again.. the PROGRAM runs fast.. 56k is just slow.. but aol does a ok job at getting you yer speeds.. the 'mass ammounts of ads' are stored locally in the first place.. but im just brianwashed. so dont listen to me.. i dont even use AOL anymore.. yeah i have a spare

the rest of that got cut off.. used HTML tags, anyways.. as i was sayin.. when you produce screenshots showing its using 240 of yer 256 ram and 99% of yer processor.. then you can complain.. til then.. peace

Ummm as for AMD being the best processor..The benchmarks speak for themselves..Oh unless you want to pay an extra 200 dollars for your extrodinary Floating Point scores...

Ok first of all p3's load apps faster then p4, p4 processors take forever they are so slowed compared to lets say a amd athlon 2200 its beats a p4 2.2 ghz with flying colors. plus amd doesnt have that serial number tracking thing. and as for ie being fast mozilla is way faster and so is pheonix 0.3. mozilla loads java applets fast as anything compared to i.e. and by the way aol supports v 92 and v44 compression to the 1994 person who was saying it didnt support v.90 aol just came out around 94 anyways. aol has tons of new features regarding communication and they fix mad bugs some will happen based on your configuration and how much ram and what os. if they couldnt see what you type in emails instant messages and in chat rooms then it would be great.