AT&T has a right to censor anything that they are promoting. If they do not feel it is appropriate - they can stop it. They were footing the bill for the concert and they have every right to classify something as distributable or not.

The fact that these bands get up and think they're so clever and so "with it" makes me want to puke. They have their "fame" because of the way of life we have in this country - if they tried to do the same thing in Iran, Palastine, Saudi Arabia, China - they would have been beheaded or thrown into jail for a very long time.

I think they have the right to their opinions. That's one of the beautiful things that this country has going for it. But to try and spread their propoganda and their hate in a venue where it doesn't belong - is deplorable and speaks very little for them.

Has anyone seen the movie 300? I found it to be an interesting commentary on what happened then to what's happening now.

There is a scene roughly in the middle of the movie where we see the Leonidis talking about baseness of the Persions and how if they cannot stand against them, they will sweep in and destroy Sparta. That they are savages who will enslave everyone they come across as they plow over every nation.

Then they cut to the Senate in Sparta and we hear the back stabbing SOB go on about how Sparta must stay neutral and not interfere with Perisa. That they must basically sit back and do nothing and then he goes on to critize Leonidis, claiming him to be crazy and seeking to wage war for war's sake. (roughly paraphrasing).

We find out after a while that this SOB in the senate has been on the take from Persia and is a traitor to his country and has been seeking to undermine the country from the get go.

Now, I'm not saying that the members of our congress are on the take from the Al'Qeda - but I found it rather interesting that we find ourselves in a similar situation.

We have a group of savages who are hell bent on destruction of everything we know as civilized life - not just here in America - but across the globe - and there are very few voices willing to stand up and say - "Not on my watch".

Instead we have the press and our very own "esteemed" body of congress standing up and bashing not only our president, but our troops as well.

Well, I'm sure having seen the movie, we know how things went for Sparta in the end. Is this what we really want to have happen here? Or anywhere else for that matter?

Don't think it will happen? That's what that senator thought in 300.

Very interesting read. For the most part I agree with you. The people on the left want to fight with the people on the right and visa a versa. No one is being helped with the bickering just do something positive already. The system is areal joke right now. Everyone will critique others but in turn offer no solutions themselves.

AT&T doesn't own the content. They have no express right to censor it. Yeah, here's the thing. If you want to apply the plot/actions of 300 to todays world then you need to get it right. We, America, are the Persia of the modern world. We attack when we have not been attacked as Persia did to Sparta. Just as Sparta rose up so will those whom we attack. They will not sit back and do nothing. If you want to puke that's your business but you make a mess and you'll clean it up.

We attack when we have not been attacked

We've never been attacked by terrorists...right.

Gotcha. You're either in denial, or completely out of touch with reality.

AT&T doesn't own the content.

Unlikely. It's more likely that rights of distribution and content were signed over by PJ as part of the deal.

Huh?

We have not been attacked what rock have you been livign under for the last 7 years?

They are broadcasting they can censor what they want.

I was with you up until AT&T...

That's alright. Not everyone can grasp the English language.

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Were there any pro-democrat or anti-democrat sayings that were left in the concert? I didn't watch and I don't intend to, but I'm just wondering if they did. If not, I'd say they were just keeping the playing field even. Not biased or prejudice, for or against either party. Seems like commonsense to me.

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not surprised. I also found out recently that edited songs to take swear words out also now cut out anti-bush remarks. an example of this is would be the radio edited version of the song "slap" by ludacris

2 words: BUCK FUSH

Spoken like an angry liberal.

I look at it this way. The more he talks & people hear what he says, maybe people will hear (between the studders) one thing out of a hundred that he says that they will like.
Or on the other hand, the more he's heard, the more people will see where the real problem in government is.
(I belong to no political party, yet)

There is a reason why the AT&T logo looks like the deathstar :)

My friend speaks bad about Bush. I don't air-horn him so others can't hear. I actually let people form their own opinions.

AT&T screwed up.

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Frankly, not only should be band be nuked, so should the broadcaster.
This is a free world, and as much I am a proponent of the 1st amendment, this goes beyond the pale, it is now personal Eddie.
And, I'm gonna have Alberto take a good look at you and your band.

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Why doesn't someone just blame him very EVERYTHING so we can get it over with already? Oh wait, they already do... Its getting very very old.

You don't blame someone different every time your dog chews up a different piece of furniture.

I agree.

But Katrina was Bush's fault...

So are our high gas prices, the cancer rate, and my sister's cold.

Don't forget he blew up that bridge in MN and convinced that guy to shoot all those people in Virginia Tech. Oh and he eats puppies too.

"that bridge"...

One of my best friends takes that bridge twice a day on weekdays. If it wasn't for the twins game (and his impatience at the increased traffic causing him to take an alternate route), he may very well have been on it.

*shrug*

It was a structural defect, near as anyone can tell. What blows my mind is that last weekend, they were already running stories in the local paper about who they might be able to sue.

Sad.

Censorship is a good thing, right? Without censorship, America’s adults and children might be exposed to the truths, lies or even radical ideas. King George acting directly, or through his corporate censors must protect us from such at all costs. As a good corporate citizen/censor, AT$T must be commend for protecting us from those inflammatory anti-Bush lyrics. Good job AT$T.

Woops, AT$T said their censorship/editing was just a mistake. Couldn’t have anything to do with that Email from AT$T legal department entitled something like “How to Stop a Congressional Inquiry on the matter” or “We wouldn’t want any prying eyes looking too close, right?”

Also, let it be said that no person in their right mind could ever find any correlation between the King George’s Laissez-Faire doctrine and AT$T’s rise from obscurity to become the benevolent telehog it is today?

Doctor, this is now starting to look like an epidemic of BDS.

at&t effections the world, so it is no longer subject to free speech. its perpose is to do what its company does, provide telicommunication services and nothing else. if someone wants to use at&t's service to slam bush then thats fine. how would you like it if mr. Gates put in all his windows "boo bush, vote democrates" on the bootup logo...

speaking of censor, this websites censors.. don't remember what i did but my previous account was blocked

I'd be impressed that he had the balls, personally.

Why even use at&t's lame service for Pearl Jam. since PJ is a "trade friendly" band. I downloaded the whole concert in .flac format (converted it to .mp3) and have it in my car.

hxxp://bt.etree.org/?search=&cat=137

It's really not all that bad what they said..

When MTV, a network that is a shill for the Democrat party, replays the 9-11 concert that was held in New York, they cut out the part where Hillary Clinton got booed. That got no attention in the mainstream media - Hillary's their gal, so it was OK.

As for Pearl Jam, shut up and sing. You think way too much of yourselves.

yea

We have a yea, any nays?

*laughs*

That was dumb. Both the censorship *and* the replacement lyrics.

Pearl Jam... Yeah, like I or anyone else should be looking to these guys for political commentary.

And AT&T? That had to be one of the dumbest moves they've ever made.

"And AT&T? That had to be one of the dumbest moves they've ever made."

Yeah sure, that is, if we don't count spying on domestic phone calls for the Bush administration.

*laughs*

...and their choice?

Hmm..

Deny presidential order and face the consequences.

or...

Business as usual.

I'm sure it was a tough decision...

yea oops we hit the edit out anti-bush lyrics button. sry.

I know.

I'd actually have a *tiny* bit of respect for them if they actually admitted the bias and stuck with it (depending on the licensing arrangements, it's likely they own all rights to the vid).

Even so, it was a mind-numbingly stupid move. Fund the party you prefer, produce ads, whatever, but don't start tailoring reality to suit your views. That's what we have Liberals for.

toolie, you're so pathetic if all you got is 'shut up and sing.' I didn't know that musicians needed to submit their lyrics to the Republican Party apparatchik before being "allowed" to perform by your thought police. Last time conservatives pulled this kind of stunt, the Dixie Chicks sold millions of albums and laughed all the way to the bank. The more you tell everyone to shutup, the fewer there are of your kind in office.

Besides, if you're so conservative, why aren't you in iraq, fighting for your prezident's war? What is more important than serving when your country needs you? You know what they say: there are no conservatives in uniform; the conservatives always have an excuse not to fight in their own wars. Or are you like Mitt Romney's five chickenhawk sons? Otherwise, go join your party's ban on evolution or whatever you people do. Maybe clear some brush?

Oh that's right. I've never seen a conservative earn a day's pay either. They get illegal immigrants to do their work for them. Get some counseling, buddy, you're really a sad, sad person.

...and if you do tailor said truth, find a scapegoat to blame it on or claim it was an editing mistake.

(on a side note: This reminds me of that Brisk ice tea commercial from a couple of years ago where they used puppets of Bruce Lee and the Karate Kid. The line was from Bruce Lee going "Editing mistake.. in _my_ favor!" He was losing a fight or something and then, suddenly, he was winning.)

that was one of the most ignorant, misinformed, bitter posts I have ever read.

Yes, anyone who favors free speech is "bitter" and "ignorant." You would not hold that sentiment if you were an American. But hey, ad hominem is the first resort of conservatives, corporations like AT&T, and the current administration, so why should I be surprised?

correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought pc_tool was talking about at&t's editing job, not pearl jam saying things at their shows.

toolie, you're so pathetic if all you got is 'shut up and sing.' I didn't know that musicians needed to submit their lyrics to the Republican Party apparatchik before being "allowed" to perform by your thought police. Last time conservatives pulled this kind of stunt, the Dixie Chicks sold millions of albums and laughed all the way to the bank. The more you tell everyone to shutup, the fewer there are of your kind in office.

I didn't tell anyone to shut up. That was another poster, you complete boob. Learn to read. I said I thought it was stupid. It's an opinion, you do not have a monopoly on those.

Besides, if you're so conservative, why aren't you in iraq, fighting for your prezident's war?

Already answered this question, but, per your SOP of 'Hit and Run' trolling, you never saw it.

there are no conservatives in uniform; the conservatives always have an excuse not to fight in their own wars

*laughs* Man, you really are braindead.

Oh that's right. I've never seen a conservative earn a day's pay either. They get illegal immigrants to do their work for them.

That's right. That's why WE want tot send them packing and you *LIBS* want to bring the entire friggin country into ours. Eh...whatever gets you more votes, right?

Typical Liberal post. Good boy. Take the facts, reverse them, and blame everything on the conservatives. We all know there are plenty of conservatives fighting in Iraq. I know 3 personally. We all know the libs are the ones attempting to grant amnesty to the illegal immigrants.

Get some counseling, buddy, you're really a sad, sad person.

Take thine own advice, dimwit.

*shrug*

I talked about both, but never once said PJ didn't have the right to say whatever the hell they wanted. He's just trolling.

I don't believe he was referring to free speech.

Seems to me, by 'bitter', he was referring to your whiny attitude, and by 'ignorant' and 'misinformed' he was referring to your blatant rewriting of well known facts. (Blaming conservatives for the immigration issue...really...are you *that* stupid?)

So much stupid liberal crap I don't know where to start. The anti Bush crap is sickening. Wait and see what happens if we get a comunist woman in there if you think the country is a mess now.

Ahhh... zridling's trolling. I can't believe this is what I've been missing this summer. I never should have stopped coming here every day. This is fun.

Wait and see what happens if we get a comunist woman in there if you think the country is a mess now.

QFT

*laughs*

It is. Really. Though, I must admit, my definition of 'fun' may be a little warped. :p

The only "free speech" you seem to approve of is speech that agrees with yours. I believe you have a rather large plank in your eye...

Yes, that is known by all here.