way to go AnyDVD!!!!
make the bad DRM go away forever!

What fools some of you are. You claim you can make a back up copy of your movies and it's OK.
Not really. (Even though I might do it myself)
If I'm being completely objective it's only because the movies are a bunch of ones and zeroes that you/I see it that way. You tell yourself that everyones a winner as you have your discs and the industry have made their sale. Remember, we all know the restrictions, BEFORE we buy and watch the discs and thereby AGREE to the terms that go with it. You might buy a car but somehow I don't see you making a copy of it just in case the worst happens.
What the DVD manufacturers should do is first sell their wares at a reasonable price and then on top of that offer a license to copy for personal backup, again at a reasonable rate. That way some of the money that they spend on preventing copying or protecting their intellectual rights need not be spent.

That said, as with others. If I can, I will.

So I'm that last paragraph was SMF saying that new and current users will be moved to a subscription based service or just new users? The only reason I bought the program was because of the lifetime updates and to help support the cause.

Slysoft is the only company that does exactly what every user has the right to do, making a personal backup, therefore it's still pricey but it does a fine job at fighting at the rapidly increasing business that has only 1 goal : burdening our freedom, burdening easy-of-use, punishing users that don't have an internet-connected BluRay player (who buys a Bluray-player anyway...)

I give slysoft a 10/10 in their efforts of the industry pushing us into a communism.

"5:30 pm EST December 29, 2008 - Well, that didn't take long. Late this afternoon, SlySoft announced it had updated the update, with AnyDVD HD version 6.5.0.3. Evidently the company needed to put a few tweaks on its "incredible magic.""

I love you BetaNews.

Why do they bother? There are people out there who get off on cracking software and these DRM schemes....you can not stop it. period. Alls they are doing by adding DRM is driving people to pirate.

Why pay for some crippled format when i can download a cracked copy that i can play where i want to play it, and when i want to play it?

Because they want to say they're trying to stop pirating and that want to stop people who don't know about AnyDVD. I see where you're coming from though and I for the most part agree.

I think the only way to stop pirating is go full streaming. If no one can buy a physical copy then it can't be pirated...unless you find a way to record the stream. IF they stream and have you either 1. pay for movies at a cheap price since you don't have a physical copy (rent or own and stream from anywhere with username and password). or 2. watch commercials like on Hulu fewer people would pirate.

"Alls they are doing by adding DRM is driving people to pirate."

One of the most insane things yet said on this forum! And that's saying a Lot! LOL!

Yup, and bank safes force people to be burglars, and car locks force people to become car thieves.

It is one thing to debate one's private fair use of a legitimately sourced copy without redistribution, and quite another to rationalize your asinine justification for theft, nitwit!

And yes, AnyDVD works great. And it is one of the most judiciously updated software packages available. I only wish all programs functioned as well, and were supported as well as this suite.

And BN is just a bit late with the news regarding the change for unlimited lifetime free updates for subscriptions after 2008. And that is ONLY FOR PURCHASES MADE AFTER DECEMBER 31, 2008!

Previous purchases retain the lifetime update support - a small but saliant point BN failed to report.

Speaking of "insane things" on this forum. It is really funny with you being a libertopian and saying that. You have absolutely no grasp on reality.

Your safe analogy is just plain retarded. DRM is like having to ask permission to use something you already paid for as a legit own. Like all such "protection" schemes it does nothing to protect.

This is no different than WPA on Windows. I own a legal copy of both XP and Vista, but when I used them I had to eventually install a crack that bypassed activation because the damn thing kept deactivating itself. (A problem that Microsoft admitted to.)

Libertopians are such stupid creatures.

your analogies make little sense.

"...bank safes force people to be burglars"

If a bank safe was DRM, how would you feel if: you went to the bank and could not withdraw the money you deposited? Or if you tried to withdraw $100 of the $3000 you have in your savings but only $15 came out? Or the bank let some stranger withdraw money from your account? Or you could not deposit money into your account because the money was printed in 1988 and your bank does not like that.

What???????????????????????????????????????

You utterly missed out on everything, nitwit.
both with regars to the sarcasm as well as the analogy itself!

But geesh osifer! I just had to rob the bank! I wanted my money at 3am and the bank was closed! If those bog locks weren't on the door and thesafe, none of this would have been a problem! Its the Bank's fault!

LOL!

The stupid Canadian socialist who goes online and orders an iPhone specifically for local pickup only from a distributor 1000km away, and then blames the online distributor from whom HE chooses to do business for his having to get there!

Yup! DRM is responsible for piracy! LOL!
Gee, so if there were no DRM, there would be no illegal sharing of files without compensation to the owner? And locks cause crime.

What, you mean when I decided to use the bank and deposited the money, that I AGREED to a set of usage rules? But, but, but...that's not MY fault!
Nor that reasonable Fair Use was specifically excluded (oh...and you mean the phone is for local picklup only???).

But then, you still think Reagon and the Republicans controlled Congress, the Presidency and the US for 28 years! And you think that Bush was a Libertarian! ROFLMAO!!! You are an idiot!

And Windows kept deactiviating itself on your Rube Goldberg game station with a Sony TV for a monitor? LOL! Now that's a machine signatuure from hell! But keep telling us of all of the stuff you and your mommy have...

It was only trying to get away from YOU! Amazing YOU are having that problem, huh?

Did you give Santa your list of self-entitled goodies? I sure hope he realized he was oblidged to get the fancy Hannah Montana lunchbox for Christmas like you wanted - or, excuse me, like you have entitled yourself to... We can all imagine you now on you skateboard will your trendy lunchbox...

After all, its others who are responsible for providing you with whatever you decide you are entitled!

What a dweeb, tweenboy.

"Yup, and bank safes force people to be burglars, and car locks force people to become car thieves."

Alas I'm afraid that analogy doesn't work when writing off his statement.

DRM restricts the places it can be played, such as the car stereo etc.
To adapt your bank analogy, it's like the bank saying "Unless you are dressed in a chicken suit that only we sell, then you won't be able to get your money out".

If that were the scenario, then it is likely indeed that people would be forced away from banks to save their dignity.

Uh...wow talk about over inflated ego.

Every single time you post you get off on this self righteous rant that you feel we should all be shot in the head for securing OUR Consumer rights to purchase something and have it work FOREVER, until it is physically broken. Not artificially broken by the producer.

The DRM path takes away ALL consumer rights in favor of producers rights, who feel we must pay for every viewing of content.

These are UNREALISTIC expectations of the public. Always has been always will be.

When the Foolishness of the law is so overbearing to the people it is said to protect, it becomes necessary to secure your rights any way feasible. Short of declaring Civil War over DRM the consumers do the correct thing and make sure their legitimate purchases are not at the mercy of the producers. That is why consumers are against all DRM of any kind. It does NOTHING except punish those that actually buy their products. For ultimately it is THEY who are forced to get new copies every time the disc becomes nonfunctional, and they who have to get new players every few months because I'm sorry but Blueray patches don't work worth a crap. I have seen too many of them become useless in a matter of months of purchase because of an update and the patch for them make them unstable to use.

Because DRM is cracked within moments of being implemented by those that DO NOT purchase the product. Those that DO purchase them are the ONLY ONES that are punished. Thus no matter what fantasy you get off on that DRM is there to make things better. your wrong, cause by design it can never do that. All it serves to do is make people buy buy and rebuy till they get sick of doing that and finally come to their senses and go get something that works. Which is removal of DRM from their purchases and guess what? They then work forever as a product is suppose too.

A consumer expects a product to work. PERIOD. If we as consumers had a single brain cell left in them, they would stop buying Blueray disc all together and be rid of them, till the producers figure out when we buy a BR disc we expect it to work as naturally and efficiently as our DVDs have for a near generation now. And When they implement DRM into them that changes on their whim, that then turns around and makes such purchases invalid, It is THEY who have stolen from US! Not we of them.

@ Foxfyre: It must be hard being as perfect as you "think" you are. Internet anonymity allows you to be harsh, belittling and cold, without regard for common courtesy. You berate anyone who doesn't share your views, with a voracity that is combatant at best. I wonder if you would speak to someone "face to face" with that attitude? You are most certainly a sad little man that needs better social skills. Manners would go a long way with you as well. You do not play nicely with others, probably because you need to get out of the lower levels of your home for awhile. Letting the sun hit you does wonders for the soul. While some of your input here has value, this forum would be much better off without you.

Happy New Year Fox, I hope one of your resolutions is to knock that chip off of your shoulder...

You poor babies.
Sorry if you can't interpret hyperbole, sarcasm, litote, and in some cases, the dismissal of utter ignorance.

And in this specific case, the dismissal that uncompensated theft and redistribution of material is somehow caused, or justified by, DRM.

And you are buying the use of a product. It is subject to the owner's conditions. You are free in one respect only. The decision to buy or not buy. If you don't like that terms, that's fine. I for one disagree with them as well. So don't buy it.

But the FACT is, you make a CHOICE by buying it! And that choice implies your agreement with the terms of use.

Whine all you like. Who cares.
And DRM has no causal relationship to the P2P sharing of product without compensation. And all who blame DRM for this theft without compensation are idiots. And if that applies to you, enjoy the insult. Its intended.

You idiots are like the oh so caring fools who blame guns for the existence of crime, rather than the underlying desire to entitle oneself to another's property that leads one to seek a gun in order to exert influence over another. But I know that is a bit complicated for you oh so feeling fools.

After all, I am sure that you nitwits can trace the fact that no crime existed prior to the invention of guns and no uncompensated file sharing existed prior to the deployment of DRM. LOL!

If you want to whine about backups of legitimately sourced and compensated material, fine. I happen to agree. And SlySoft quickly addresses ALL instances of this. Period.

So, if you don't like this, then lobby those responsible (and no, that's NOT the RIAA), but rather the SAME @ssholes who now promise you "change" that passed and signed the DMCA to make the necessary changes allowing for a legitimate owner's Fair Use rights.

But as far as copying for uncompensated redistribution. That remains THEFT. And your whining in that regards and your claiming that DRM is the cause for that THEFT is simply more bullsh!t from your whiny @sses.

And then you can take all of this with literal seriousness, as evidently you think it deserves to be taken thus - telling us much more about your pathetic inability to interpret hyperboly and litote then it does your ability to respond substantially to issues.

LOL!

Oh, and in regards to the nitwit sjc001, all references are to his actual posted nonsense. You want to take issue with that, follow his asinine entitled posts. They are good for a laugh. Well, OK, you have to laugh AT him, but you gentile folks and your gentile sensibilities may not be up to that...LOL!

Excellent post foxfyre. In all my superior wisdom [suppose I better point out the obvious sarcasm on that one or be labeled "self righteous" also] I understood immediately. How I can use a product I purchased legitimately depends upon the agreement with the terms of use...is a gripe I walked into. But claiming this forced me to share it on Pirate's bay sounds like an exercise in post modern liberal idiocy.

"...SlySoft announced it's suspending its lifetime updates policy after December 31."
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AnyDVD is already one of the most pirated programs online. Cracks are posted within an hour of each release. So save your money instead of rewarding criminals.

You mean getting back my fair use right on my PURCHASED media is wrong ?

Feels really good to me ...

How and zap those F..ING add forced upon me before the movie I just bougth for a premium too ...

I am no goose sorry. Stop feeding my crap.

Do geese eat crap? You learn something new every day.

Anyway, the damn mandatory previews, adverts and copyright warnings at the beginning of movies makes me nuts too. I feel your pain.

Same here. If you buy a movie you should be able to make a backup of it in case something happens to that movie...or music CD. If your kid scratches your DVD...for instance...you shouldn't have to buy another one.

So so sad. I'm a criminal because I want to actually watch my BluRay disc that plays quite badly due to the protections. Jumper was a perfect example of a BluRay release that had playback issues due to protections. Who was to blame? If a person used AnyDVD HD to watch the BluRay disc from their BluRay drive the disc played without the issues encountered by those who didn't have AnyDVD HD.

You have an astoundingly narrow view of the world. Oh, of course, Slysoft are ciminals and the users must therefore also be bad and since the product gets pirated its okay to pirate their software. So, you are clearly and openly advocating stealing software. YOU are advocating stealing so can I infer from that you are a criminal, as well? Do you advocate any other illegal activities?

I have no use for downloaded pirated material. I watch my own HD-DVDs and BluRay discs. I also have a fully compliant HDCP system but AnyDVD HD still makes things better. It has valid purposes and, as usual, the blind and holier than thou people step up and cry from the mountain tops that Slysoft is the cause for all the evilness of BluRay and that they are criminals.

I am simply astounded at how many blind people there are. In the meantime I'm going back to watching my legally purchased BluRay discs using my legally purchased AnyDVD HD on my self-built and legally owned computer system.

What crimanals? Since Slysoft has broken no law they aren't criminals.

Perhaps you think the laws of YOUR land apply in Antigua. I have news for you. They don't. It's another nation with its own laws. The DMCA and its variants do not apply there.

Just FYI.. as an interesting story:

your Wrong... U.S. Law does apply to people living in Antigua.

the Government of Antigua has signed two International treaties protecting Copyright of movies, audio, books etc. of other countries. Antigua & the U.S. are both members of InterPOL (you always see that "InterPOL Copyright warning on movies quoting "we investigate internation copyright violation.. Sept 8, 1977 Stockholm, Sweden,)"

so here's the Question.. why hasn't the Antigua National Police force working with the U.S. FBI through InterPOL. Raided Slysoft's offices in Antigua and basically arrested everybody and closed down the website?

we see cases like this with Microsoft going after some Pirate Factory in China. even though China national laws may not have been broken, China Police work with FBI to raid factories because of the international agreement China has signed..

the answer...

basically the U.S. govt banned Online Gambling for U.S. Citizens, but made exceptions for state lotteries, horse racing etc., the Antigua Govt got upset filed a dispute with World trade organization (WTO) for $3.4 billion yearly in damages..since they are an online gambling capital after 5yrs they won the case but only for $21 Million yearly... not $3.4 billion they were asking for..

it gets evan more interesting..

given the WTO ruling Antigua has threaten to allow online website to openly sell pirated DVD's music etc and ship to the U.S. Technically U.S. Customs wouldn't be able to sieze the items.. the U.S. has asked for a delay given Obama taking office on Jan 20th.

what exactly is $21 Million yearly?

well at $5 a DVD movie that's 4.2million DVD's shipped to the U.S. of Popular Hollywood movies even before being offically released on DVD and not a darn thing anyone can do about it

Hollywood isn't happy..The MPAA argues $21 Million yearly is the cost of the copyright work profits.. in other words.. that's about 10 music songs, or 2 movies your allowed to pirate..

@kristy34c - sorry, US law does not apply to people living outside the US. The international Treaties state that each country has to have laws upholding the Copyright of the other countries. The DMCA's clause preventing reverse engineering of copy protection schemes has NOTHING to do with copyright, but rather a method used to prevent copying the media.

Although fair use is being eroded in the US and attempts are being made to erode it in other countries, does not mean that it does not exist in other countries (I don't know the laws in Antigua), nor does it mean that those countries automatically outlaw the reverse engineering (Canada doesn't, yet). The act of copying the disk may be illegal in some areas of the world, and in others it may not be, while still upholding copyright laws. Now if you are copying it for purposes other than backup/reuse on another medium of your own you have stepped out of the grey area, but please don't assume that the US laws apply outside US borders because they don't.

They don't even apply in an occupied country like Iraq.

Of course you should have to buy a new one! Your kid damaged it. End of story.

Would you go and photocopy every single page of a book in case your kid ripped one of the pages?

Why do people take the position that if something can be duplicated, then it should be? If your kid broke your TV, then you'd have to go and buy a new one. Exactly the same as a DVD - the only difference is that you can make a copy of the DVD.

If you look at a DVD as a physical object rather than a logical collection of ones and zeroes, your argument doesn't make sense.

Some people might say "you're paying for the movie - not the disk". But really, they should be considered one and the same in this sense. With a TV - you probably think you're paying to be able to watch TV shows, not just to have an ornament sitting in the corner of the room. But you'd happily buy a replacement without any arguing if you had to.

I guess its time for all the blu-ray users to borrow their friends disks and start renting and copying. I myself don't have one and don't plan on buying one any time soon. Maybe when they stop making DVD's.

SlySoft rocks! Best money ever spent...