RSSChina Looking to Form New Internet?
By Ed Oswald | Published March 1, 2006, 2:34 PM
NOTE: Initial reports that China may have been attempting to split off the Internet by creating its own Chinese-language top level domains now appear to be untrue. A spokeperson for China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC) said that the country has no intention of creating its own root servers, or breaking away from the global Internet.
In a move that some speculate to be the initial steps towards a possible breakaway from the global Internet, new versions of top-level domains will be added on separate Chinese root servers, China's Ministry of Information Industry said on Tuesday.
According to the state-run People's Daily, the country is launching ".cn," ".com," and ".net" in Chinese.
The adjustments were made to bring the country's domain names into agreement with an article in a government decree known as the China Internet Domain Names Regulations.
"It means Internet users don't have to surf the Web via the servers under the management of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) of the United States," the paper wrote. The story was ambiguous as to exactly what the country's plans were.
For that reason, ICANN was not commenting on the situation, saying it would attempt to clarify what the ruling means for the Internet in general, and whether China was creating top-level or second-level domains.
If China is indeed creating new top-level domain, the repercussions for the Internet as a whole loom large. The Communist-controlled country could essentially create a closed Internet network within its borders, further limiting the freedoms of its citizens.
Furthermore, two sets of ".com" or other domains could create massive headaches for root server administrators, as they would be forced to figure out ways to properly resolve the new domain names.
One administrator called it the equivalent of having a phone number that routes to two different people.
Speculation that China, and possibly other countries, would start to break away from ICANN began after the Bush administration was successful in keeping control of the group last year. The European Union, along with several other countries, wanted a UN body to assume control of the worldwide network including its name servers.
China was one of the countries that objected to United States control.
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|this article needs to be updated as it's wrong.
http://story.news.yahoo....60302/tc_pcworld/124941
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|i personally believe china's government has gone too far. it's what ever they see threatening that they must find way(s) to limit the expansion. creating the new top-level or second-level domains would mean china will have more control of today's free information highway that most of us believed to be known to.
"..The Chinese people have no more control over their government than Americans have over theirs." (commented below) - TheRecklessWanderer
i agree with that comment some what. China is a communist country, but America isn't all fact democracy. elected by the people, ha! then eliminate the electoral colleges votes and just go with the popular votes. Gore & Bush is a prime example, but i won't go there.
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|It's a giant LAN here, Chinese sites are always available. Many foreign sites are not reachable due to the Great Firewall.
Now they have one further arrow in the quiver, control of the TLDs.
Surfing in the past 3 days has been an adventure...
But sure, all you who have SO much experience in other countries, China is exactly like the USA.
Except in any measure that matters.
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|This is just with 1 word discribed "NUTS".
Why create a seperate internet when there is already a global running network? It seems china is again trying, like in most arabic countries, to brainwash there own ppl. (To **** up there minds)
I really dont understand all the problems and why they r totally against america always. Guess they dont want ppl to be free and have peace, seems they only want ppl to think there way instead of there ppl having freedom.
Those countries just suck.
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|"why they r totally against america always."
Probably because of how America is run... it's got nothing to do with Americans personally... It's your government...
I live in a "free" country, yet I see our leadship ordered about by yours as if we were your slaves... No offence to any americans...
Anyway, back ontopic..
"Why create a seperate internet when there is already a global running network? It seems china is again trying, like in most arabic countries, to brainwash there own ppl. (To **** up there minds)"
To me, China's government seems a little too... opesive... They've censored Yahoo, google, etc... what next?
"Those countries just suck."
I don't think that was called for through.
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|Saddam was a bad guy coz he was a dictator and there was no freedom for Iraq's people. and because of that there were sanctions on this country.Then why is that china was given membership of security council ?
China is a Dictatorship.
there is no freedom of speech in that country
communist party might have even changed the meaning of democracy or freedom in the dictionary sold in china.
Tienanmen square is only one of the few things we know about china, god knows what is happening to the people of that country.
America has fought wars against communism/communist.
oil don't have many alternative sources, but toys electronics and clothes can be sourced from democratic countries like India,USA, Mexico and other nations.
still no sanctions on china.
is America really most powerful nation in the world?
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|India is a dictatorship as well.
The Chinese communist dictatorship gave a lot of money to Clinton and the Democrats to have him elected and the Left Wing allowed the communism regime there to enter the US economy like never before.
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|who d F*CK told u india is a dictatorship....bloddy a** wake up...dont u read news....india is a fully democratic counry!!...
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|America is a dictatorship
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|One can say a lot of things about India but one could not claim that it is a Dictatorship.
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|man you are using a dictionary made in CHINA.
your post is sooooooooooooooooo stupid.
i never had such a good laugh for quite some time.
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|You obviously have never dealt with a dictatorship.
Fool.
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|lol, it's not like they were forced by ICANN oppression or something... lol
their internet, based on most news I've read, would be run by ICANT connect to anything the chinese govt deems inappropriate.. lol
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|Relax. The internet as you know it is just being sold by the Bush Administration to a foreign government to manage. Hail China, our new masters!
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|I've preordered one of these Chinese Internets at Wal*mart.
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|Great. Good bye. Like I care if China wants to make their own Internet.
That's what the USA did and everyone wants a piece of the pie.
Then go make your own and upkeep it and leave us (the USA) alone.
I couldn't care less.
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|The international attitude against ICANN isnt because of ICANN... its entirely a pi$$ing contest against the USA.
Some things never change.
Perhaps the ips in china will just be called
http://www.china.commie
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|This is crazy... Having more then one set of domains is going to destroy the internet.
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|It's good.
ICANN should NOT have the right to control and charge the domains.
Registering a domainname is far too expensive for smaller businesses in many countries. Domain registration might be 3 months salary, that's way out of proportion!
This will not be creating a separate internat, but a more free internet, which is only good as I see it.
Also this has nothing to do with how free the content is (aka 'Evil China' to you americans), this has only to do with one company ruling over (owning) the internet and charging too much...
The recent VeriSign deal also speeds up the process of Europe, England, China, Australia and rest of the world to create a fair new DNS system.
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|What?!? How could it be a "more free internet"? Either you misread the article or you didn't think things through. China has a lousy rights history. Having their own Internet (notice the capital I) isn't going to make things more "free" for the Chinese people.
$7 a year for a domain name too rich for your blood? My condolences.
Do you even know how DNS works?
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|Domain registration is 17 AUD... thats cheap IMO.
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|"It's good. "
Yea...so is communism. *rolling eyes*
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|I would actually argue that communism is good, although to date it has been generally implemented poorly.
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+communism
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|Gee...havent heard that one before. Purely idealistic ideo of governing people.
Totally against free expression, thought and competition to bring forth a better living standard.
The human factor is the major flaw when leading communism, and as such, will NEVER be a legitimate method of governing.
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|Well said.
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|About time. You think European countries will join the Chinese net? Countries are complaining that the US controls the servers, well here you go. I'm not saying that's what I want or anything, but it might bring about some choices, and I bet their Net won't be as free as ours (even though the restrictions are getting tighter here in the US).
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|good ridance
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There'd be a lot less spam if China and Korea weren't connected to the Internet.
When was the last time the average American wanted to view a web site in Brazil, China, South Korea, Taiwan, or Turkey ?
Most American citizens would be better off if they were on an Internet that connected only with the U.S., Canada, and the U.K.
Who wants to hear from a Brazilian or Turk looking for Net Sex ? Somebody from Nigeria with a million dollars they want you to money-launder ? Or an Argentinian selling Viagra ?
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|"Most American citizens would be better off if they were on an Internet that connected only with the U.S., Canada, and the U.K."
Translation:
"Most Chinese citizens would be better off if they were on an Internet that connected only with China, Vietnam, and Cuba."
These are Chinese sentiments exactly.
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|You make a very good point, although I'd add Australia to the US/UK/Canada list.
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|I'd add Sweden and Germany too. :P Oh, and Mexico, for all those people that holiday down there....oh, and Japan, because of the electronics. Actually, lets just add all the countries except those that don't have any English content at all. Yeah!
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"You make a very good point, although I'd add Australia to the US/UK/Canada list"
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Absolutely. All English-speaking countries.
But screw 'Diversity'.
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"These are Chinese sentiments exactly"
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Wrong ! Most Chinese ~want~ to be on an Internet connected to the rest of the world.
It's the unelected Chinese GOVERNMENT which thinks they'd be better off not connecting to the outside world.
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|are you trying to tell me there other countries in the world beside the good ol' US of A
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|Right. "But screw 'Diversity'."
That has to be one of the lowest comments I've seen on these forums. But, just for kicks, let's take that and run with it, eh?
Screw India, where most of our support and call-centers reside...
Screw China, Taiwan, and Japan, where most of our products come from.
And Screw diversity!
For that matter, lets outlaw interracial relationships. No need to muddy the gene-pool with inferior DNA. Of course, since anyone not nearly identical to your is inferior, you'll have to "Keep it in the Family", but something tells me you won't mind. Incest is best, after all, right? Wouldn't want to tempt diveristy.
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Seriously, that was perhaps the most closed-minded, uninformed, offensive, and thoughtless comment I've read in a *very* long time.
Please tell me you were just being a smart-ass.
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|My point was that your solution is just as corrupt as China's.
The Internet serves as a powerful vehicle for free information, and this is what China is afraid of. With information comes new ideas that threaten the old.
Now, you insist that citizens of a free country such as the U.S. should also be closed off from free information just because it comes from a different shore?
How is your version of censorship any different than China's?
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When I said, "Chinese," of course I meant the Chinese government. Like it or not, they are in control and they are the face that is presented to the world court. We are just arguing symantecs here. My point still stands.
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|Correction:
Most American citizens would be better off if they were on an Internet that connected only with the U.S
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|There are some sites in the EU which openly block access from the outside world. Hell with the other continents and people there. I don't know why they bother to discriminate; when software programs can re-route us through other countries. Maybe these juveniles such as www.cdr.cz can join that new commie internet?
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|Hmm...screwed by a government(China), or screwed by a legal company(US)?
This world is lovely...
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|Damm chinese, don't have anything better to do. Why don't we (United States) hate china since its a communist country? Oh well who cares we won't be surfing any of their poor web sites LOL
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|Don't hate a people because of their government. The Chinese people have no more control over their government than Americans have over theirs.
Besides, who do you think is going to be ruling the world once they figure out how to work it? Not the Americans, that's right people, it's the Chinese.
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|man what is the meaning of Chaprasi ?
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|what made u think that chaprasi said that hate Chinese, read again he said hate "china". since when did meaning of china became Chinese ?
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|Wrong. The USA is a democracy, the government is chosen by the citizens. China is a communist dictatorship, there is no democracy there.
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|Seriously? I thought King George chose.
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|lmao...
Oh, so now he hates the landmass?
Or wait, since he didn't specify, that must mean he hates the landmass, the people, *and* the government, right?
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|"choosen by its citizens" yea no wonder George Bush got back in office
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|Wrong. The USA is a republic.
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|with china i think he meant their gov.
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