I have Insight so, I keep a big jar of vaseline close by.

And what about UPLOAD speed? That's another need from us, the costumers. With my ADSL I can download file at speed light, but I need 40 minutes to upload 400 MB of photos.

oh please, stop your whining, the fastest adsl I can get my phone exchange is 1500kbit/256kbit (oh yeah and the 15gig per month limit that goes with that)

Thats an average in Australia, and I live in Melbourne, with only a few exchanges up to adsl 2...

so you can stop complaining about your 8mg slow downs..... its just not fair.

Where do all of these haters live? I have the 8Mbps service, and I actually get 8.3Mbps downloads, and about 740Kbps uploads. The service only had one problem(DNS) in the 6 years I have had them. Their service rocks in my opinion, and DSL forces you to have a phone land line, which I do not need. I only use a mobile. So the fastest DSL, plus a non-listed phone land line, comes out to more than Comcast Internet alone, and Comcast is way faster.

Its UPLOAD BANDWIDTH the public wants

Its "UPLOAD BANDWIDTH" when the hell are they supply what the public "WANTS".....

I am still stuck with 3mpbs from verizon in NYC. NYC is always the last to get anything.

It would be great for multiplayer games!!!

1 billion MBps wouldnt matter much either. Since you are limited by the source you are requesting info from. Very few sites allow downloads greater then 500kbps. and those who do allow that much are few and far between. So big deal.

But you could find 100 mirror sites or download 100 files at the same time. :-)

Not true. I have a 4mb connection and elected to upgrade to the 12mb connection for extra money of course. Nothing got better. Even p2p and bittorrent's didnt change. I'm just telling you there are limits that no connection speed can get over.

I have 10/100 fiber at work, and I beg to differ. Large companies like google, adobe, and MS I get the full pipe used, and can download ISO's in less than 10 minutes.

Who really cares?....I mean they can give you 30mb download speeds...but what they REALLY need to do is raise the UPLOAD speed!!!

DANG RIGHT, its annoying as crap sitting here for half an hour, even up to an hour or more, uploading a 20 meg file to the internet.

agreed, I want to see 5 Mbps upload and 3 download, I have no use for fast download when it nearly is never used fully because of uploads.

Old Comcast customer, new Verizon Fios customer. Better service, better product, for less the hassle and money.

believe me, unless comcast gives me 4mbps upload or sub-$40/month prices, im going to fios when it comes around to my area.

Unfortunately, knowing Verizon, that might me a long way off.

Especially in Philadelphia, where Comcast is centered.

I was going to go with FIOS, but they block port 80 and 25 incoming. 80's no big deal, but there's no way I'm aware of to work around 25 being blocked and I do have my own personal email server.

This is the biggest crock of crap on earth. I have been with comcast (due to no real choice) since @home was beta testing. The story is always the same...every few months they talk about how they are dramatically increasing internet speed and then they slowly crank it back until it is back to poke speed.

They charge extra if you don't buy into their crap quality cable tv offerings and seem unprepared to deliver a level of quality that is even close to what they advertise.

The most recent Comcrap ploy was improving their network to roll out their own phone service. When they were done my bandwidth dropped 40 percent, QOS went to hell, upload speed dropped from 370 to 320 and my voip service (not theirs) has gone to hell. In the mean time I was paying for service while dealing with frequent service interruptions so Comcast could tweak up for a phone service that THEY are going to make money on.

If Comcast had kept all its speed and quality promises over recent years we would all probably be running at an impossible 300Mbps. *laughs. Instead of improvements all I see is below average speed during prime time, a few hours in the early mornings where there is halfway decent download speed, capped out modems and major intermittent service.

They have virtually killed USENET for users of their service, their personal web hosting offers outdated technology and no quality resources, their TOS forbids running even a tiny server on their network and their tech support makes Geeks on Wheels look like MIT.

When there is a service issue they often don't show up for appointments or they call and tell you the issues are intermittent and they will continue to work on them *DUH! If you complain enough they will try to sell you an upgraded service package ...that sounds like the one you are already paying for.

Comcast is full of crap and their service sucks.

We traded in AOL dial up service for SBC/YAHOO's high end DSL service. It's $34.95 per month and works fine after a line upgrade from the phone company. Then, why pay more for COMCAST's service? They have a bad reputation.

I can't get these clowns to clean up our dirty TV recption. The leaky COMCAST cable system attracts stray broacast, ham and CB radio intereference. I tried a TVI filter which doesn't fix it for me. Most of those lower channels look like $h!+. And the same goes for certain cable networks like Fox News Channel and CNN too.

Three different service techs have failed to clean up their mess!

COMCAST is just too damned big. Service stinks; where you have no good alternatives. Now they're complaining because California's liberal DEMOCRATIC state legislature, just passed a law to ban monopoly franchise service contracts with city and county governments.

We might actually get more competition from the phone companies and satellite distributors. And decent service. I can't wait for it...

I stick to my original point. Most often, peak speeds test out in the range of less than half of the advertised speeds. If Comcast, et al, say you're getting 6MB, most often you end up with 2-3. They offer some customers 6, but the disclaimor is "where available". Thus adding on more super-duper top-end speed is just a mirage; they need to deliver their advertised speed to their customers, and then (and only then) should they be piping up about expanded top speeds.

Imagine if Chevy advertised that its cars could all go 193mph. (Disclaimor: only if you own a Corvette. Actual speeds may vary.)

Alright guys, stop flaming/ranting.
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I live in Baltimore, hope it gets this update quick. Is Maryland in New England or not?

You are a newcomer here aren't you?

We aren't flaming, we are just intensely discussing the subject, with very detailed, and specifically directing them AT the posters.

We aren't flaming, we are just intensely discussing the subject, with very detailed, and specifically directing them AT the posters.

In english, man...in english. ;P

LOL! rijp is right, you must be a newbie. BTW, sorry to hear you live in Ballmer, hun. I don't think that's considered NewEngland, and based on my past experience with Comcrap in Baltimore, you'll be waiting a while.

The PowerBoost feature is expected to roll out to the rest of Comcast's customer base by the end of the year..."with the Philadelphia area being last" a representative of the company was heard saying.

We always get things last here since this is Comcast country here in Philly....BLAH.

Upload speeds wont change...wonderful. Thats all I need to send media to my family, 12mbps download. Smart move...
What a joke.

Anyways...this will officially make my HPNA (10mpbs) network obsolete...well...10mbps isnt 12mbps, but itll download my crap faster than 6mbps.

Love Comcast

I can't believe the BS I am reading in this thread. I live ~30 miles south of Boston and have Comcast. Well, it started as Roadrunner, then Mediaone, then AT&T, now Comcast. It has been very reliable throughout all of them. Comcast has nearly NEVER been offline and I have always gotten the advertised speeds. Where do all of you haters live?

They are just upset, they can't get faster cable in their area, and they complain that fast cable isn't available to them.

Also, take note of the threads, notice they talk about CABLE providers specifically *NOT* Comcast.

You and I both know Comcast is good, but they, like so many others, have some other reason to hate. Its not because they can attest to comcast service.

Speaking of jokes... why dont we have RIJP make another comment...

LOL

Minnesota. Savage when I used Comcast. My experience with them vs. charter were horrible. Charter was much better (Although serving a different area).

I am sure their were mitigating circumstances, but my experience is my experience. Someone claiming they are "The Best" just doesn't fit.

Of course, all of this is anecdotal. What's good in LA likely sucks in the midwest. Go figure.

I seriously think, when it comes to tech, service, and speeds, Region has more to do with it than company.

Don't lump me int here, man. I specifically mentioned Comcast, you just didn't read it. ;)

you weren't the only one that made that comment, why are you taking this personal?

Gay! Gay coder, that must be it.

How was that, good?

oh a gay joke

that is so original i cant believe it came from your one brain cell, oh wait, i can...

Because I...

...I have a cold.

(bonuis points if you can "Name that Monty Python Skit")

Dead Parrot

Hello, Miss!

Michigan. Comcast blows in this area. Their technicians are trained monkeys, and their speed averages less than 1 MBPS. I'm also a computer technician so I've worked on many machines in many homes with it, it's not a "just one person" thing.

Adelphia south in Ohio though is awesome, but Comcast has them blocked out. Go fig.

I used to have problems with Comcast going off-line, but this past year it's been pretty reliable. NOTHING works all the time, because the internet itself can be flakey. Comcast is expensive, but it delivers good service and has been getting much faster.

Not to mention that with DSL you get your own dedicated line to the control center, while with cable you still have to share your connection with all the other data hogs (...I mean users) on the cable line...

OK, now I know you are lying, that is complete BS, dumb ass. I worked for a DSL provider for 2 years, so I *know* that is not EVEN close to being the truth.

You do NOT have a dedicated line, you have PART of a central SWITCH, which disperses the signal to your neighborhood. Your neighborhood is serviced by the switch. You don't travel ALL the way back to the CO to get your link to the internet.

That "share the connection" is an urban legend, because FIRST of all, corporations uses internet sharing, its called the LAN, you idiot. So, before you start saying that a "shared" internet is bad, talk to ANY LAN admin, and that's exactly what you are doing..

And that's only sharing a T1 in most cases, which is only 1.544 meg, and users don't complain about those speeds.. it may be slow, but its not because of sharing, its only slow because people compare it to their home computers.

DSL suffers the SAME slow downs as cable people do, and to say otherwise, you are WRONG. We all visit the same webpages, we all visit the same DNS (ultimately) on the internet, the speed from your house to your ISP may be a little differnent, but ANYTHING that requires an external address, is the same.

DSL runs along phone lines. Phone lines are above ground, usually. Cable lines are buried. DSL therefore is subject to wind, rain, radio inference, all kinds of stuff, even your own 900 mhz phone can interefere with DSL connectivity, Cable, doesn't suffer from such interefence, its sheilded. Phone lines are not.

LOL@jester/monkey trying to sound like he has more than one brain cell!

Stop, I am laughing at you too much

Do you speak english? I think you are practicing.. you sound like a foreigner trying to sound "cool"

DANCE FOR ME MONKEY, DANCE!

HAHAHA You do exactly as your told. Good fanboi

Wow, you like watch too many clint eastwood movies.

I am glad I am entertaining you. I guess they don't have much entertainment in your corner of the world, huh? You incarcerated?

Can you even manage to reply to a sentence, or do you just enjoy seeing your own posts and pretending to sound like you midly have any semblance of humor? You probably laugh at your own jokes, too don't you code boy? What is "G" coding anyway? Some new coloquial term?

You follow every order I give you don't you?

Good little dancing monkey.

Now follow my orders and post another comment so I can laugh!

Do it!

Well, actually...I'm on Telus(Canada only?), and it never slows down. They have a 1.2tbit network though, so nothing should ever slow down within it.

Sites within Canada load almost instantly. Sites located in certain parts of the US seem to be bottlenecked though, or are running on slow Windows Server 2003 servers. Usually sites like Microsoft.com load at around 70kb/sec. Sites like MSFN.org load at around 16-20kb/sec and frequently stall or don't respond. Sites are bad measurements though, but do support what you said(that I have to wait like anyone else).

On ADSL, my downloads are a full 260kb/sec with no fluctuations. Uploads are a full 64kb/sec, no fluctuations.

My uncle has a paper shredder that knocks out the cable for the whole block while shredding paper. I've never had anything interfere with my DSL, including 900mhz wireless phones, a police station nearby, a wireless grid, and other things.

Rijp - I take back every bad thing I've had to say about your attitude...obviously some idiots deserve the bile.

hmm didnt once notice you order him to do anything.

you must be 12.

maybe you should go sit in the corner so you dont have a brain aneurysm.

maybe if you are good we will let you have a snack before bedtime.

Cable is winning on the speed front to DSL, but certainly not to price...

I can beat 16mb, im currently with BE which supplies me with a 24mb connection which to say the least is swwwwwwwwwet.

www.bethere.co.uk

OK, DSL! Beat that! 16 meg Baby!

If they offered it, I'd jump on it.

Unfortunately, Comcast is still at 3Mb/sec here.

so let me get this straight, as I READ your post, Comcast in your area, sucks, but if they had 16 mb, you would take it? So they would suck at more than 5 times the speed? (3mb * 5 = 15 mb+)

Pretty much.

Hey, I can handle crap service, if it's 3 times faster than good service. ;)

Heck, my DSL from Bellsouth just sucks. We are supposed to get up to 6 meg download speed, which when running the upload/download tests, doesnt even come close.

Double of nothing is still nothing.

Whatever, jealousy is a b**** isn't it? You can't get cable, so you whine that it's not as good.. well, too bad.

HAHAHAHAHA

That comment made my day!

I had comcast and they were the worst ISP in the entire NorthEast.

Double that crappy intermittent connection and you get a double crappy connection.

Sorry to everyone who uses Comcast. LOL

I had Comcast for a couple years. Their packet loss was horrendous. I had them out several times and they said everything was fine. Had nearby friends who had the same issues. I switched to DSL the day it was available and have had none of those issues. Speed isn't everything.

Maybe your router was bad, maybe your network card was bad, maybe you didn't even call Comcast to give them a chance to fix it..

There are many reasons why stuff doesn't work. Maybe you switched machines since then and you only THINK its better with DSL, either way..

broadbandreports.com. Look it up. People complain about DSL, reported speeds are nowhere near as fast OR reliable. So take it for what its worth, you will find more people complaining that DSL sucks (including me, because I know first hand DSL is crap) and CABLE is the way to go.

Cable isn't for everyone, so if you like DSL, hey, great. For the majority of people using CABLE, its WAY better than DSL, Period.

Oh, yeah, thats a good one, moron. So, let me see, is that why Comcast has more broadband users than DSL, mr. wizard? Yeah, cause they ALL think they suck..

Yeah, you are just a complete idiot with no basis for your stupid comments.

awwwww

poor baby got his panties in a twist.

as usual you comments make me laugh more than you will ever know

:) keep up the 3rd grade comedy. LOL@RJIP fanboi

3rd grade comedy? Where did you find that? All you can do is make stupid comments, and now you have nothing to say, because you aren't clever enough to even make anything worthwhile.

Its good you didn't have anything valid to say, it wouldn't have been worth reading anyway.

Your panties are in a twist, you are spouting lies and incorrect information.

Unlike you, I don't let this bother me. I may say things, but don't get the 2 confused, ignorant fool. YOU have the problem, I don't.

I think you have a very negative outlook on life, how many times have you been in prison? I bet you were a delinquent weren't? Maybe you smoke a little.. your brain cells are warped.

DANCE FOR ME MONKEY, DANCE!

HAHAHA You do exactly as your told. Good fanboi

Are you done? I am not a fanboi. What is with the "boi" anyway, is proper spelling too difficult? Esepecially when its the same number of letters, that's just stupid.

You like DSL, so what? DSL Fanboy.

aww the fanboi doesnt like it...

poor baby

I live in the northeast, comcast almost never goes out, so I guess it just sucks to be you.

You sound like a freakin idiot...Rijp really needs to lay into you with his juvenile insults, they would be just up your ally and far too appropriate.

I always enjoy reading your post.

Agree with you 100 percent. I also use that website when running speed tests. When I got rid of my cable and got DSL from BellSouth, both my upload and download speeds plumeted.

Yah, its so funny how they clame "get speeds up to 6Mb/s (MB, Mb i dont remember exactly, they are 2 different things) download and the test come with results around 2Mb/s.

you have yet to make a single intelligent post on these forums. i dont think i have ever seen you back anything up or even state why you have an opinion. the only thing i have seen out of you is childish insults and posts of you jumping on the bandwagon, sometimes with little stories about your life and how it lets you know all there is to know. personnally i dont think you contribute to this forum in any constructive way at all.

therefor, i declare that you, sir, are a waste of bandwidth.

The funny part is that you can't get the advertised speeds anyhow. Doubling half gets you where?

Where do you live? It doesn't say CABLE! It says *COMCAST*. *COMCAST* has 8 meg D/L. WTF!

I have 8 meg, my neighbors have 8 meg. Comcast! Not charter, not time warner, not some other offbrand cable, *COMCAST*.

Their speeds are AS advertised.

Well, maybe now the 6 and 8 will be guaranteed. I have another ISP, and while I get the speed it offers and a little more, it only advertises "upto" speeds, not minimums...and it doesn't even offer anything as fast as 6 let alone 16.

Yeah sure they are...

Thats why everyone EXCEPT you says that their sevice is crappy and the speeds suk.

End of story comcast fanboi.

*COMCAST* (As you put it) sucks. I mean, if we're going to put a blanket assumption on things based on only the service in *our* area, right??

In my area, *COMCAST* (that really does get annoying quick, don't it?) has horrible service. Their outages are frequent, their DNS servers are vertually un-useable. (When I used them, in order to get online, I *had* to use alternate DNS)

It's fine to judge a copmpany based on service in your area. That's likely all you'll ever experience. But please do not make the mistake of claiming that same level of service holds true for all other areas that company serves. You're just plain wrong.

Comcast's highest speeds in this region are *still* 3Mb/sec.

Yeah, they suck. I think I made it pretty clear.

Do you live in a comcast area? If no, then this doesn't apply.

Cable, across the board, sucks. Its like Wireless service on your mobile phone. Who do you have? Verizon is considered to be the best, but are they perfect, NO! But people flock to Verizon at a 5 to 1 ratio, from other carriers, obviously people leave Verizon as well, becuse THEY think they suck, but to other people, maybe you are fine with what you have, GREAT!

Overall, check any message boards comparing the two *besides this one* and you will see, DSL get far more complaints than CABLE.

Comcast is better than OTHER cable companies. Maybe other cable companies suck, which is probably true, because I don't like Time Warner either.. but they are better than DSL in the same area.

Broadbandreports.com if you don't believe me.

*Comcast's highest speeds in this region are *still* 3Mb/sec.*

It also goes by demand, maybe people in your area haven't shown an interest, and therefore they don't feel the need to raise the level.. I don't know, but the larger cities, where Comcast is, its better than DSL. DSL isn't even available in most areas, you can get cable where you can't even get DSL. So DSL isn't even a viable alternative.

Its either cable or no broadband for the majority of the US.

Whatever loser, everyone in THIS forum, which is what 6 people? Believe DSL is better, and you are an idiot, and you will just contest everything I say, because you can't prove my point, and I called you out earlier, so you are just pouting, which is fine..

so everyone EXCEPT me (in this forum only) which isn't a valid cross section of the rest of the US, so your point, as usual, has no basis.

OOOOOOOOOOO

you called me an idiot

go back to 3rd grade

Thanks for my entertainment for the day, your such a good jester/monkey

Oooh.. look, you can repeat yourself.

wow, good use of copy/paste. Is that the best you got? Pathetic

Do you live in a comcast area? If no, then this doesn't apply.

Dude, the least you could do is read my posts before replying. It's basic courtesy.

As far as Cable sucking or not, I didn't say that, *did* I?

Seriously, man. Take the time to read my posts. You'll get a better understanding of what I'm trying to say.

..and your responses might actually be relevant to what I've said. ;)

I did read them, I am making them relevent to OTHER people, so I don't have to keep making future comments for people, that will attempt to find some reason to make a remark about my comment.

And everyone else is making comments about cable, I am using you as a catapult for my fanfare.

And.. You have been dormant for too long, it was one sure fire way to "wake" you up :)...

Apparently it worked.

lmao..

Gee, glad I could help. ;)

KEEP DANCING MONKEY

You make me laugh even more.

LOL

LOL. Where have ye been, lost one?

Did you have to make a run for moose?

That's why I am here.. keep laughing, its the only time you aren't being stupid.

That was ok, but you have done much better.

Dance for me monkey! immo of an immo

Nah. Someone wanted me to do something called "work".

I didn't like it. I hope they don't ask me to do it again.

I have comcast and my son has dsl (we live in the same house) and both work great. Beats the hell out of dail up

I have Comcast cable, and have had it since Comcast came to my town and before that it was @home and AT&T. The only time I have ever had an issue was when AT&T was the provider. I have had consistant service. I have had my service go down for a couple hours at a time twice in the last 5 years. I used to have 6mb download and upgraded to 8mb. I am currently uploading at 80KBps. Thank you to Comcast for your great service. I will be happy for double the speed, that will be amazing. I live in Vancouver Washington. The Northwest USA for all of you that flunked Geography like that PeeCoder guy. Have a great weekend all!

That was a lousy punch back towards him.

"we live in the same house"

Then why 2 internet services?

Maybe because comcast doesnt allow to use VPN access where DSL does allow it. Or maybe his job pays for one and your only to use it for work?

He had dsl for a good while and he liked it. He said if one goes out we have one to fall back on. He's paying for it . Me i would just have comcast.

i love comcast, constant speeds almost 2Mb faster then advertised and uploads at 1Mb/s. never goes out and comes in at around $45 a month with full cable. of course the switch from the local branch office isnt too loaded down as population is low here, but being north of philly i am right in comcast's backyard.

You are really annoying

All of you don't see the stratigic point they're doing. One person at the top, mentioned Verizon's FiOS. Now to band-aid the possibility of losing immediate customers that have a love for speed on the net, they've created an incentive to raise the levels. That is until cableco's can get their own fiber nets up and running. AT&T and Ver. have been downplaying cable technology all along. I'm sure you all know which of the two has been the best for the money and speed. =)