I'm about to start boycotting daylight savings. Yeah thats right, I just won't change.

If they really want to do something just set it at a half hour and leave it. The clock is already off anyway, along with the calander.

Only the idiots running Congress could think of this idea. How much earlier can I go to work? And why do I want the sun to set at 10p? If it really saves money, then why not make DST year round? Why not add another hour to the day? Oy.

What a joke pick a time and stick with it.

Stand by for another WINDOWS UPDATE too. Microsoft will have change DST clock settings as well, since the changes will no longer happen on the same dates any more...

Uh oh, Don't tell that to Andy Martin or he'll throw another fit! Hah, Read all about it.
http://www.betanews.com/..._Block_Vista/1123614377

Great. I'm thrilled. "yawn"

If anyone should accept the new times, it should be Canada, since they're so north. They need it :X

I think that we just need to get rid of DST. There's no point. It doesn't really save *THAT* much. I mean how many people, these days, stay up til later than dark anyways? I would really like to see how much is "saved" vs. how much is lost from people walking in an hour late to work b/c they forgot to change their alarm clocks.

Kind of stupid to keep something that was made to avoid other companies being able to bomb us in a World War MANY MANY years ago, which as I understand it is the only reason we have DST... That and being able to "save money" because people back in the day actually all went to bed and woke up at reasonable hours. Not today. There's so many people working 3rd s***, staying awake til all hours of the night, etc. Different worlds, different rules.

Studies done in various countries by people much smarter than you or I have shown that Daylight Saving Time does in fact save money.

Here is a website that seems to do a decent job of explaining the benefits and historical reasons behind DST:

http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/

I wasn't aware that other companies had the potential to bomb us. I figured that sovereign nations, i.e. foreign countries, were more apt to do so.

Trend or not, it's annoying and archaic. It was first developed to allow farmers one more hour to make it to market in the evenings before they had farm equipment with headlights/lighting. Most farmers now actually find it more beneficial to harvest at night as it helps produce retain moisture and makes them look more appealing/last longer. All of our reasons, however intelligent-sounding (including that site) are largely opinions. Surveys are easily twisted to give the desired results for agendas. "Liars figure and figures lie."

Please...next time, do not make stuff up as you go.

That still doesn't explain the rational of having daylight saving time in November. You might have read the very site you cited where it states "Daylight Saving Time saves energy for lighting in all seasons of the year, but it saves least during the four darkest months of winter (November, December, January and February) when the afternoon advantage can be offset by the need for lighting because of late sunrise." emphasis added.

It would seem to me that any gains in daylight in the evening would be largely offset by lost daylight in the morning. In most parts of the US many people are already awake and going about their days before the sun rises in November.

ROFL!

I was thinking the exact same thing. Where did he/she get all that from?

Yeah, but why everything always has to do because of money. Im kind of bored hearng that word that seem to be the only motivation behing every government decision.

Personally, some may find this drastic, but I always thought I would abolish DST, and in addition, I would abolish timezones as well. Put all earth on same time. Why not having the whole planet on the same time?

Now I can hear people saying: "I don't want to see the sun at 2:00 AM", but thinking about that, what does it really change? It's just a number. Come on, I would still get up and go to work when the sun is up, regardless of the number my watch indicates. Wouldnt everything be easier if we only had one universal time?

"[The time is] just a number. Come on, I would still get up and go to work when the sun is up, regardless of the number my watch indicates. Wouldnt everything be easier if we only had one universal time?"

Time zones help provide a frame of reference--for example, if I want to call a client in California and I live in New York, it's a lot easier to say, "Oh, they're three time zones behind us, so I better not call when it's 9 AM here" than to say "Oh, they're about x miles in in this direction, and since the earth moves at y mph, the sun is about three hours behind what it is here."

If you really need a universal time ... well, use Universal Time (a.k.a., GMT, which is basically the same thing)--you'll see it a lot in scientific events, such as an eclipse visible starting at, for example, 21:45 UT (= 9:45, then add or subtract your offset; Central Standard Time in the US, for example, is UT minus 6 hours).

But I don't think it's practical for the whole world to have the same time.

Haha, maybe that is why they have it.. People walk in late, businesses save an hours pay... Some get fired for being late for the 2nd time in the past 2 years and early twice when savings comes back around. As far as when people come in early, businesses say "tough, go home and come back in when youre ready." They never have to pay that late hour again! lol

I agree about the need for differing time zones. Past time being "just a number" which I have always held myself anyhow :) I think that it would be a bad idea setting a single time zone for the whole world wouldnt make sense NOW. after centuries of conditioning our bodies to a certain type of outside ambience at certain times, the immediate ramifications of such a change would be disasterous. However - if we did, in a few decades as the old pass on and new lives are born into such a system, the idea of time zones to the NEW generations would seem just as absurd.

On the whole arguement of Daylight savings time.... we are such an advanced society these days, would it be SO hard to manufacture watched that kept precise time ALL the time, and abolishing the daylight savings time makes perfect sense. the whole arguement of saving money is invalidated because the hour saved when you set the clock back is paid for later when you set the clocks forward again. I see no logic behind it saving money. at the least it is a major inconvience, and on the surface - to most logical people that is - it is a total waste of intelligent life. We don't need it. we dont want it, get rid of it.

"Surveys are easily twisted to give the desired results for agendas."

I totally agree, one of the most illustrative examples of how numbers can be twisted to meet the presenter's needs follows. and before anyone whines about me being an idiot with the example below, I in no way condone drinking and driving. I merely use the example to illustrate a point.

[20% of all highway fatalities are caused by drunken drivers]
This was the figure about a decade ago when I first took up the cause of truth in advertising and illustrated how easily numbers can be manipulated to validly proove ANY arguement...
at THAT time they used the numbers (published by the National Traffic Safety Foundation) to show how '`dangerous'` drunk drivers are.. they are responsible for a whopping 20% of all accidents that ended in a fatality...

it's a good and valid point HOWEVER so is the following:

80% of all highway fatalities are caused by people in their right sober mind with not a drop of alcohol in them.. 80% is a HUGE number... the 80% are the UNSAFE drivers, THEY should be put in jail and let the safer minority 20% drivers who are drunk drive.

see how moronic that sounds? but the scarey part of it is that it IS a valid arguement.. if 20% of the highway fatalities are caused by drunks that means that 80% are caused by sober people...who truely is the most dangerous??

Now then - using only TWO examples of highway fatalities ,makes that statement true, but if you add in other reasons for the highway fatalities (fatigue, equipment failure, negligence, joyriding and many many others) the figures then allow for a more complete and factual example. btu we dont hear the percentage in the statistics ever released on how many were caused by 1/2 blind tired old chineese women who are epileptic and have a seizure just as they turn a corner at night and the lights of an oncoming car cause a gran maul seizure :) or how many were caused by dwarf male white men who swerved to miss the ducks on the road and plowed through the median strip into oncoming traffic and kill the mulatto transsexuals who were on their way to a gay wedding. :)

This is like Y2K: Much "panic", little effect.

And yes, many other countries use DST.

This is Nothing like Y2K.
According to the media, Y2K would crash all systems and networks and perhaps cause the end of the world due to WW3 being triggered.
Of course, Nothing happened.
With this Daylight Savings Time change, the worst that can happen is your clock will be an hour off. BFD. What does that have to do with Y2K? Nothing, but the media wants their ratings.

"That could mean problems such as DVRs recording an hour late or your telephone company billing incorrectly."

If phone companies cant update their system in 2 years or cable companies cant send out firmware for DVRs in 2 years then we all are in a world of serious hurt.

Much ado about nothing if you ask me though.

When you get to the bottom of it, you're pretty much right.

Yooohoooo ! Betanews, I've got a fantastic news for you : THERE ARE COUNTRIES OUTSIDE OF NORTH AMERICA ! Isn't it fascinating ?

What's your point? There are devices that are programmed to recognize DST if you enable the feature, however, now the DST dates will be thrown off because of the changes.

Perhaps you would be better served to think through before posting?

I don't believe any other countries use DST, although I could be wrong.

And countries outside of North America have their own date for DST, which is completely separate. Europe changes one week earlier. So obviously this change doesn't involve other countries, except Canada.

What of these "COUNTRIES OUTSIDE OF NORTH AMERICA" do you speak of?

There's nearly 1/3rd of the worlds countries using daylight savings time...

This article is just scare-mungering at it's finest!!!

Big woop... Sydney during the 2000 Olympics had it's DST brought forward nearly 2 months...

Plus the east coast of Australia, also has had three different start times for DST, Queensland/NSW/Victoria starting/ending on differet dates, or not implementing DST at all...

The question I ask now... What happen's when American's move westward... Do they get freaked out by the time difference, and buy new DVR's and change Telco carriers?

Think about it...

what's even MORE fascinating is there is at least 1 styate in the US that refuses to play the party line and doesnt use daylight savings time :) I hear there may be two

It's actually daylight saving time :P

Wow, that would sure be a big change.

What's the point? Gee lets all lie to each other about the planet's time. The sun shows it's noon but wait... we'll just fake it and say it's 1 PM.

I say if you want more day light, just set your alarm and wake up an hour earlier.

Cosa? What the...

How can the sun show it's a true noon at the same time every day? If you went by the exact position, then noon would be at a different time each day: different for each geographical mle east-west / & changing with each passing day(remember different seasons, when there's hours less/more sunlight in the day)...