Anyone noticed that Betanews seem to have "forgot" to mention that PS3 now does Profile 1.1 Blu-ray..

How's that for Bias..

Seems when Xbox gets some gimmicky new feature, it's featured article for 2 weeks.

What a sad bunch of losers the editors of this bog really are..

Stop crying in your frosted flakes Dave!

MinuteMaid, I agree 100% with you. Classic Beta"NEWS" move.

Seriously can it be more obvious? I understand maybe not reporting that the update allows for better remote play on the PSP. And that PS1 games can now be played over remote play on the PSP. I get that; as it is a purely game update... But not reporting BR 1.1?

Wow what a Beta"news" Puppet you are Hollywood_.

Seriously though, putting everything aside...

You don't find it odd that BR 1.1 was not mentioned seeing as how this is a "NEWS" site? Isn't their job to report ohhh, I don't know... NEWS?

And what would you have them say about it?

There isn't a single profile 1.1 disc on the market today.

When there's a way to actually try it out, then it's just news. Until then, it's really kind of pointless to even bring up...

Dave agrees with himself under a different nick, what a surprise.

Hey dork, I've owned a PS3 a lot longer than you have, the 1.1 would be great if I could actually use it. And yes I do find it strange they didn't mention it.

Funny enough in my country, South Africa, Sony is charging so much for the PS3 that no one I know owns one. I just worked it out if you translate from Rands to US dollars at the current exchange rate it is $939.31 (R6500). Games go for about $94 USD (R650). XBox360 much cheaper only $332.37 (R2300). Almost a third of the price. Games are about the same price as PS3. It's Microsoft though, I'll stick to my PC thanks, better graphics anyway.

Your point? Comparing straight currency conversions is not really valid.

For example, in the UK, the PS3 is cheaper than the US, however, once you add on UK tax of 17.5%, and 10% import duties, it end up more expensive..

Yeah comparing straight currency conversions isn't really valid, that wasn't his point. His point was (even without any conversions) that the PS3 was still almost 3 times more than the Xbox 360 (R6500 for the PS3 vs R2300 for the 360) in his country.

Finally! My PS3 has been serving well as a Media Center type of device. It plays BRs just fine. (I don't know why certain people have issues)

But I use it a lot for music playback streamed from my HTPC along with pictures. But what was KILLING me is all my funky clips from the net or downloaded short clips from the shows I like, I could not play.

We don't get BBCs Top Gear or 5th Gear over here and it's NOT available on DVD. So there are sites that host complete episodes or, and this is what I prefer, host just the review segments. I naturally wish to watch them on my entertainment system and ;have been; with my HTPC.

But the PS3 is a much "friendlier" media center device to use. A streamlined focused interface that blows away Windows Media Center. So I am thrilled I no longer have to switch back to my HTPC for viewing videos. The more I can stay in one place for my entertainment needs the better. It just makes sense.

THANK SONY! Now add Xvid support. :)

"Now add Xvid support."

Normally if it's DivX compatible it should be Xvid compatible too. At least for my PC anyway.

FWIW, I tried playing some unconverted DVD rips on the PS3 yesterday and it played them just fine (with some occasional stuttering due to our neighborhood's overabundance of WiFi access points) That would save me a heck of a lot of time if I didn't have to convert everything to DivX first, and I've still got about 300GB free on my 1.2TB NAS.

Unfortunately, your stereotype of people with DivX collection as "movie stealing low lifes" doesn't take into account those of us with families who want to keep our kids' grubby mitts off of our DVD collections.

I've been ripping our DVDs in an effort to keep my kids from scratching & fingerprinting our DVDs any futher more than they've already done. Plus, we now have the added convenience of being able to let them pick what they want to watch only from a list of child-friendly movies.

We typically use the PS3 rather than the 360 to play movies because it's quieter. Rant on, fanboys. I could give a rat's arse which console you like. I own & enjoy them all...

Buy a Kaleidescape you cheap f*ck.

"Buy a Kaleidescape you cheap f*ck."

Officially the stupidest thing I've read all day.
Congrats.

Thanks. I try to be as over the top as possible.

Go play with your PS3 little boy.

I think that DivX is great, good move with the console guys coming to the party. DivX encoding just makes sense, I own DVD's but I encode them and have an old PC connected to my TV. When I want to watch a movie I just select which one and play. Downloaded movies don't look so hot on my TV so I'd rather rip and encode with HD quality. If it weren't for DivX I'd need much more space for the same thing. DivX is the MP3 of the video world. In any case, people are going to pirate no matter what is done to try and stop them, anything that can be engineered can be reverse engineered, if only one console manufacturer supports DivX then that console would probably out sell all the others. I hate DRM. This article is single minded.

"...This article is single minded."

Welcome to Beta"News".

What a dumb closing statement. What about all of us people that have backed up our DVD collections and can now stream them from our PCs to the PS3 attached to our "big screen TVs"? This is exactly how I'm using it (along with TVersity) and it's exactly what I've been waiting for. Thanks Sony!

Did you have to circumvent any copyright protection to backup those DVDs?

Just because a group of people influenced heavily by MPAA lobbyists deemed it illegal to backup DVDs purchased legitimately does not mean that it is wrong to do so. That is a different matter entirely.

It is legal to make a personal backup of something that you own, yet it is illegal to circumvent the measures put in place to prevent it. It's a double-edged sword, and it's BS.

Wrong, try again. In a recent supreme court case(sorry cannot find article, I will keep looking)the findings were that due to the availability and price of material now placed upond CDs and DVDs, it is illegal to make copies. It has always been illegal, but has not been an issue that has been attacked until recently.

Sony needs to stop releasing useless firmware updates and add support for internal DTS-HD and DTS-HD Master Audio decoding.

Just because only one camcorder utilizes divx doesnt mean you cant make your own divx videos with any camera. Who wrote this crap. I have been taking my home movies and VHS tapes and converting them to divx for years. Only now I have moved onto H.264 while the industry lags behind.

Trolling ? the answer was to What's a PS3?

I agree ir0nw0lf,

The people with huge DivX collections are movie stealing low lifes like my cousin Jason. This idiot mods his console (PS2) and has stolen every single game, song and movie on his computer. You can't expect much from a family of hillbillies.

The same moron is going to school for (get this)...... computer animation. The idiot has been going for three years and can barely make a stick figure move across the screen.

The best part is he's another Dave, a complete Sony fanatic who has his head completely up his ass. He doesnt even own a PS3 but is always telling me how much better it is just like our resident idiot wh didn't even own one until June of 2007. He (my cousin) hates me because I own a PS3 and I am always telling everyone to get a 360 if they want the better system. When this jagoff comes over for Christmas with the other 60+ people in our family, I'm hiding all the BD movies and the PS3 controllers just to piss him off.

p.s. I installed the new PS3 update ....... now what? I dont steal DivX movies and there isn't a single profile 1.1 movie to be had. They are one step closer to HD-DVD's superior features. Let's wait another year for profile 2.0 and see how it compares to HDi.

So ... I got to ask. Why the hell you buy a ps3 ??

I guess its to play the films, and as I see it the ONLY saving grace to buy a ps3 was to get a Blu-ray player with potential updates later on.

The reason to buy the PS1 and 2 was clear, the promise of good games. After the "upgrade" to remove the chip that was made you cant even guarantee to do that if your an existing P1/2 owner.

As I see it the ps3 is one huge leap of faith if your reason to buy it is to play great games.

Well, Hollywood_ is scaring me constantly with insights into his life. Anyway, got a few minutes to spare...

The PS3 is a nice machine (the tech geek is speaking) but I am getting too old to buy yet another limited use gadget - and I don't forgive Sony easily for all they pulled last year. For gaming I switched from PCs (always latest spec due to profession - would run any game) to a PS2 this year. With Logitech wireless controllers and large screen via projector it's just a mature, worry free and fun system with a huge library - we game only occasionally. Whenever the geek acts up he is quickly put back in the closet.

What does the PS3 offer over PS2? Better graphics but hardly any games - and if the game is fun you forget to notice. PS2 compatibility removed from the only model getting closer to a reasonable price for a gaming console (the worst decision of all). A huge, IMO ugly, hot running shiny brick vs. a stylish compact system. A mechanical (disc based) HD player, which I do not believe in since the future is in the network. Real network multiplayer games! Yes! But which games..? Folding at home - Thanks, but aren't those ice caps melting already?

I hear the PS2 is still outselling all other consoles besides maybe the Wii (I sometimes see it at parties but the motion sensor is just not there yet for me). And last I recently had to cross town by subway and heard your average non-geek consumers/mothers talk: "Those games are really all the same. $500 for a console? The only one that's different is the Wii". Well, they didn't try Boxing on it I guess... ;-)

Says the guy who complains about DRM.

The only people that care about DRM, are those that pirate.
Hypocrite.

Thats not true Joey, some of us complain about DRM because we have paid for things we cannot watch do to a hard drive failure and had to go through a bunch of ridiculousness to get the licenses back. Ass.

Wow why dont you kiss the industries genitalia a little bit harder homo. I have a large divx collection of home movies. Just because you are too stupid to encode a video and your parents didnt educate you properly doesnt mean you have to take it out on everyone else. Your not mad at us....your mad at your Mommy and Daddy.

Talk to them about it.

Too stupid? LMAO, I'll go toe to toe with SAT scores any day. Oh wait, you didn't go to college? That's too bad.

And as for DivX, it's a poor man's codec. It's like a hillbilly driving a Chrysler 300 who thinks it's a Bentley Arnage because it sort of resembles one.

Home movies..... Are you too cheap to buy a camcorder that records directly to DVD or BD for that matter? Keep converting your VHS and Hi-8 to DivX there Billy Bob improvelence.

For once I'm with Joey d***head on this.

Hey impoverished or whatever your name is:

"do to a hard drive failure" woudn't that be "due"? You obviously haven't had the benefits of a classical education Mr. movie stealing DivX lover.

I dont take a thing on this forum seriously and you shouldn't either preintercourse.

Some people (like me) for the sake of convenience prefer to rip their DVD collections with Auto Gordian Knot to DivX (or Xvid preferably). I won't lie and say that I've never downloaded any movies, but the majority of my media library is built from movies that I already own on DVD. It's much easier for me to simply call them up on the HTPC that way.

I also completely understand and sympathize with those who have children. Kids can be rough on those discs. Also, I have friends over on a regular basis, and I would much rather have them flip through my media library on my PC to find something to watch rather than have them dig through my shelves of DVDs. Those are my archives, and I treat them well.

Of course not. Scouring the internet for links to everything related and pertaining to DaveBG and posting your findings here (which is just about every other post) is more of a hobby... something you do during commercials, right? :)

We all are extremely familiar with your rather obsessive utter disdain for him (and it's completely understandable, by the way)... but when did you start becoming so contemptuous and insulting towards others here?

"woudn't that be "due"?"

Wouldn't that be "wouldn't"? :)

"The only people that care about DRM, are those that pirate."

And because of DRM, people who are trying to exercise their Fair Use rights, are now pirates (by the MPAA's definition).

Without going into a huge debate into this, there are perfectly valid reasons for people to back-up the discs they have bought; just as there are valid reasons for the studios to protect their investments. It's maddening, however, when the studios try to protect their investment from the people who legitimately paid for a legal copy of the film/tv show/music in the first place (c'mon...you can't tell me that its not irritating to see the "Don't steal movies" video on a legally purchased DVD).

I find it interesting that the entire arguement really only gained steam with the rise of digital media. The record companies never raised a fuss over people trading mix tapes, until cd burners became mainstream. A huge portion of the movie studios never included any form of copy protection on their VHS releases; yet suddenly 'copyright infringement' became the catchphrase when movies could be downloaded for free.

Wow, someone actually noticed. Give him a star.

As soon as someone called me a homo.

I must have missed that then. Just curious.

I agree. Actually though, when you think about the nature of the article and the title, this was practically begging for a debate on those issues.

The way I see it, what's the difference now? So what if you choose to give your best friend a copy of the DVD you bought in the form of an AVI for trade? Is it really that different from how cassettes were handled decades ago? Or personal or individual use... whatever. How is that defined exactly? How is the typical situation of inviting a bunch of your friends over to watch a DVD that you've purchased or rented handled? Are they legally entitled to view that movie in your home since they did not pay for it?

No problem. I've always thought you have your head on straight and actually add to the conversation. Some people come to cheerlead, others to justify stealing and pirating so they don't have to feel guilty about it.

You can bet that most of the "DivX" people here use torrents whereas other claim they only use it to encode home movies which you can encode to .vob/DVD files and edit much easier. All it takes is a VHS/DVD recorder combo with aux inputs and two button presses.

IMO, there are really 2 causes for the uproar over copying/sharing, and fair use backups.

First, when talking about cassettes/vhs copies, there was a fair amount of certainty that a person had either bought or rented the material in the first place. You had to get the source material for the mix tape or movie somewhere (sure, you could borrow it from your buddy, but money still traded hands for the legitimate copy at some point).

The second reason, I believe, comes from the nature of the digital formats, in general. When you made a copy of a record/cassette/video tape, there was a loss of quality from the original (pretty minimal if you had decent equipment, but it was there). Each copy that was made from the copy suffered a little bit more degradation. With digital media, though, once you get past any possible loss from the original (stripping out the extras, lowering the bitrates, etc.), you can (potentially) create one generation after the other, without any further loss to picture or audio quality.

Is swapping movies or cds different from the way it was twenty years ago? Not really. Technically, it was copyright infringement then; now it's just easier to trace. There wasn't much concern over recording your record to a cassette to take with you. Now the AA's cry over the ability to do the same thing with devices in your own home.

The paranoia (from the studios perspective) over 'fair use' is absurd. Some studios have made public statements that suggest they wish a person had to purchase a seperate copy of each dvd, for each player in their home (Sony has gone so far as to file a patent that locks individual discs to individual players).

"Now, users will be able to play HD content ... without having to invest a large sum of money on a Blu-ray" [or HD DVD]

"DivX has the advantage of being a cheap, and largely open, standard."

I'm surprised that they needed Blu-ray or HD DVD.
Original DVDs are encoded using MPEG2, DivX and other modern formats use MPEG4 (or simular) which allows for much better compression, which inturn allows for more picture quality in the same space.

In short you can have HD content on a standard DVD.

This article is a snore-fest. Let's face it: those who will likely be using this playback capability probably already have a vast collection of DivX/XviD videos already, mostly from less-than-legit sources. Sure it's likely to encourage more of that, but the numbers are already there and drooling for this feature, it makes their console more complete. The MPAA can stuff it over this -- I'm sure they will B&M over it.

Boy, I'll bet the MPAA is just tickled pink over this...

it's what the 360 wishes it was.

in a crater called 3rd place ?

You mean the system with the most games, better rated games, better online and not to mention it still costs less? Oh wait...

Are you trolling, or have a point?

The article says BOTH systems so what is the xbox360 wishing?

What's a PS3?

When you take a piss it is a #1. When you take a crap it is a #2. When a bird goes it is called a PS3 (both together)! Hope this helps bobthegoat2001...

What I got out of this was that the PS3 is adding features that X-B0X had first... Truth is both systems are great, but X-B0X has all the best games and I am not 12, so I am passing on the little Wii Wii.

It's that system that's already killed your HD DVD investment.

Your crap a** PS3 will not even be able to properly play Blue Ray discs in the future just like Sony's other crap consoles fail miserably at DVD playback. You can keep your s*** Blue-Ray player because even if BR dominates one day, you are stuck with a s*** player and I will have my nice brand new box. At least the XBOX can pull off playing a DVD properly without jumping around or locking up unlike 4 different revisions of the PS2. I see you getting owned on here time and time again but yet you keep coming back.

By the way...disc based movies are a stupid investment in the first place considering anyone with an internet connection and a VPN can rip (or legally download) their own movies and watch them anywhere they have a connection. My laptop can hook up to a big screen TV and display HD content so keep sucking sony's teets sissy boy.

Nice try Joey, keep posting to make yourself feel better. We all know you have buyers remorse, jackass.

Enjoy your dirtbox360 with it's DVD drive, whilst it lasts..

That was very creative dirtbag. At least the 360 has a reason to turn it on. Unlike the OS3 there are tons of great games for the 360. You get the honor of having terrible ports for the sh)tstation 3.

Sorry Joey, the PS3 has a lot of playback problems with both Blu-Ray and standard DVD. I haven't found a single DVD or HD-DVD that causes playback problems for the 360.

Can anyone say Liar's Dice on POTC 2 and the list goes on and on.

Busted again little cheerleader boy in drag.

i think you mean "brickbox360" with its limited DVD format.

lol. making stuff up again?

"I haven't found a single DVD or HD-DVD that causes playback problems for the 360."

That is funny, i did not know the M$ 360's limited DVD player can play HD-DVD's? The PS3 is regarded as one of the best, if not the best, Blu-Ray player out there.

You can make up whatever lies you want about the PS3's reliability...the horrible reliability of the brickbox 360 is well publicized.

Keep posting...everyone laughs at them.

Care to back this up with a link of some sort?

At least it plays DVD. What does your Wii play?

"MS 360's limited DVD"

Who's making stuff up? Please explain how it's limited. At least it's not as limited as the Wii's DVD.

"i did not know the M$ 360's limited DVD player can play HD-DVD's?"

Wtf? He was referring to the HD-DVD add-on. Ummm, duh!

No one ever sid the PS3 was unreliable from a hardware standpoint. Yes, there were some bad ones out of the box, but not many.

Thier software and BD decoding is what sucks. Sony's claim of 1% PS3 failure holds water.

We all know the first gen 360's are horrible, luckily I have an Elite. The 360 I bought in late 2006 went to my brothers house.