RSSFirefox Passes 10 Percent Usage Share
By Ed Oswald | Published November 2, 2005, 11:38 AM
Browser market share statistics from Web analytics firm OneStat.com indicate that usage of Mozilla Firefox has surpassed the 10 percent milestone, reaching 11.51 percent globally in its most recent survey released Wednesday.
However, the data somewhat conflicts with previous information that indicated usage numbers of the alternative browser might have been inflated due to Netscape reporting itself as Firefox. That survey, from NetApplications.com, placed Firefox's market share at around 8 percent.
The latest numbers from OneStat.com indicated a wide disparity in Firefox usage between various countries. In the United States, Firefox has a 14.07 percent market share versus Internet Explorer's 80.73 percent. Usage of Apple's Safari was also high, at about 3.55 percent.
In Canada, meanwhile, Firefox enjoys nearly a whopping 17 percent share, and has successfully pushed IE below 80 percent. Apple's Safari Web browser again is third with just over two percent market share.
In the United Kingdom, however, IE remains dominant with a 93 percent market share. Firefox holds less than five percent of the market in the UK, according to OneStat.com, and Safari less than one percent.
"The global usage share of Mozilla's browsers is still growing and it seems that Netscape users and some Internet Explorer users are switching to the Firefox version," OneStat.com co-founder Niels Brinkman said. "It also looks like that browser users of Internet Explorer for Apple's Mac are switching to Safari because the global usage share is still growing."
In terms of changes from OneStat's last report back in April of this year, Internet Explorer is down 1.18 percent, while Mozilla Firefox is up 2.82 percent, and Apple Safari up a half-percent.
It should be noted that Netscape's share fell by about three-quarters of a percent - as much as NetApplications said was needed to correct the inflation of Firefox usage.
OneStat.com says its numbers are obtained from a sample of 2 million users from 100 countries over the period of one week.
Whatever the case may be 1% or 14%, one thing is for sure, and that is that IE sucks tiny little-yellow chinese nuts.
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cashews or walnuts?
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Huh?
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LOL
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total insinuation
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Firefox is to web browsing what THX is to home theater
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Who's THX?
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It's a Lucasfilm invented sound standard.
Basically, it means good sound =).
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*shrug*
None of the browsers are perfect anyway :P... and I wonder if the FF stats are still inflated by Netscape 8 users, Also Opera can identify itself as FF (It's IE by default)
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"It also looks like that browser users of Internet Explorer for Apple's Mac are switching to Safari because the global usage share is still growing."
Another possible explanation would be that Apple's market share for the Mac OS is increasing while the broweser share within the platform remains constant. See http://www.tuaw.com/2005...rketshare-climbs-to-6-6/
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Yet another "Someone else downloaded Firefox — Quick, write a story filled with invalid stats!" stories from BetaNews. They write two FF stories a week now. Guess they're bored.
*Yawn.*
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These kinds of statistics are very useful. They give us an opportunity to approximate how much money a business website is losing by not coding their website to the standards, and what the prospect appears to be for the future in this respect. Those of us who use alternative browsers would very much like these numbers to rise, because that would cause more of the Web to open up. I'm a fan of Firefox, but I would much rather Firefox and Opera each have 20% of the market share than Firefox have 40%. Even better if Safari had a significant chunk as well. I'm also speaking as a web developer here. Standards are a good thing, but it can take quite a bit of pressure to get businesses to realize that.
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Well it is true that statistics are only as good as its ability to question a massive amount of people and more the better, but it is not used as fact; it is used to measure popular trends and other research. If you measure a random sample of 2 million users consistantly over a time and see how things change bit by bit from study to study, it certainly counts as a propper study. So I reiterate, it shows trends, not fact. trend shelp us understand how things are working, not how they work.
and in the end this doesn't tell us much, but it comforting to know that FF is gaining popularity. let's have another report like this after 1.5 is out of beta.
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"trend shelp us understand how things are working, not how they work."
What?
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Thought I was clear, they only give us an idea, not an inventory list. We use this to understand things, not know things. It's help, no more than that. How do you propose asking all 957 million people? That's why statistics exist, you can't just do that.
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Yes and no. You would have to look at a very important part of what type of sites are being viewed. If you are talking about sites that may draw in more teenagers than adults then you will have different results than with maybe a tech site such as Betanews or even if you are looking at Linux sites, heck what if they are looking at porn sites. I don't know what sites they used and well, it just leaves to many variables to make a theory from so it's really pointless unless you add the information of what genre of sites you were using for the study.
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Heh..
You missed the gist of my comment. It was a poke at your sentance structure.
"It helps us understand how things work, not how they work." is a paradox. It can't do something and not do it at the same time.
I understood ythe point you were trying to make, I was simply pointing out the paradox in the way you worded it.
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2 Million users?????
Out of 957 million internet users worldwide, we know that 11.51% of less than 0.21% of the internet users use Firefox.
In the words of Adam Sandler.... Whoopadeedoo!
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No, it's:
[Dr. Evil] 2 _MILLION_ Dollars [/Dr. Evil]
*sigh*
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You are kidding right? Or do you really not know how sampling data works. The data indicates that 11.5% of the SAMPLE population (2 Million Users) has been using Firefox....this is then extrapolated to the general population of internet users.
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Of course I understand how sampling works.
My point is simply that 0.21% is much too small a number to be anything NEAR accurate.
Note that I made absolutely no remark as to what I believe the actual usage of Firefox to be, it may be greater, could be less. I just don't believe these numbers to be anything even near reliable.
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Let's try it this way, if 11.5% of the sample uses Firefox and this is a true reflection of the 957 million internet users then 110,055,000 persons on the net are using FireFox.....this is not .021% (which would be 2,009,700 users). There is significant difference. I still say you dont know how sampling data works.
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How exactly does one fight a battle of logic with an unarmed opponent??
Let me make this clear.
First, 0.21% of 957 Million would be 2,009,700 people.
Second, I was stating that the sample of people they used (2million) was MUCH too small given that it came out to just under 0.21% of internet users worldwide (see above).
Third, I stated that all this report ACTUALLY tells you is that 11.5% of that 0.21% of total internet users reported using Firefox, and due to the miniscule size of their sample, these numbers could NOT be accurately claimed to apply to the entire base of internet users.
It also would be prudent to mention that 11.5% of 957 million would be 110,055,000 users, not 11,055,000. You might want to get a new calculator before you begin bashing others.
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You either have never taken a statistics class or failed it if you did, 2 Million users is a more than ample sample.
To Quote:
"Methodology: A global usage share of xx percent for browser Y means that xx percent of the visitors of Internet users arrived at sites that are using one of OneStat.com's services by using browser Y. All numbers mentioned in the research are averages of last week and all measurements are normalised to the GMT timezone. Research is based on a sample of 2 million visitors divided into 20,000 visitors of 100 countries each day."
As for the numbers mix up, mea culpa for a typo, it's been fixed.
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lol
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As for the numbers mixup, I find it odd that you changed your numbers but not the post itself (as that entire post was based upon an aparrant misunderstanding of what I was saying). Would seem to me that one should either leave it how it was, or fix the entire problem, not just some of them.
Anyway, It has been quite some years since I've had any statistics, and I'll openly admit that. Upon doing a statistical analysis of the numbers, it came out to be 99% reliability with a 1% margin of error (so it could be 10.5%, could be 12.5%). Obviously those numbers prove my point wrong.
In my own defence, 2 million still SEEMS like a very small sample group compared to 957 million total users (grin).
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Yay, more useless statistics. Even if these were accurate, they've only got a little over 11 percent big freaking deal.
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Nice another one claiming an unknown piece of software the best in the world
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No, Darthmall is the best browser ever. :-P This was a joke, I don't think there is such a thing.
No, really where is Opera at on this? I mean it isn't listing it's self as IE anymore. So we should be able to see where it is at.
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No one uses Opera. No one that counts, anyway.
Yes, I am bored, and yes, that was a joke.
- This flame/troll brought to you by the number 13, and the letters F and U.
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LMAO
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Love that! :)
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Ooh! More statistics! Yay!
Sad thing is, some people actually think statistics mean something, those poor, lost souls.
And why the hell didn't they include OffbyOne? It's only the best browser *EV-AH*.
:P
Sheesh.
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Is that OffbyOne one of those that could have been made using the VB 2005 Express beta 1 tutorials?
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Yessir. So easy to use or build a 8 yr-old with a tutorial could do it in under an hour.
Gotta love it.
You do realize I was joking, right?
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Yes I knew you were joking. I was just wondering if that is what it really was.
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Nah, never looked into it that much. Google it. It's a teeny-tiny browser that's w3c compliant and has only minimal proxy support.
I.e., it won't display 90% of popular pages(properly), and probably won't work in the office. (Or any office that uses Proxy-Auto-Config(PAC))
*shrug*
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