Foreign language hate group slides under Facebook's radar

By Tim Conneally | Published December 11, 2008, 2:31 PM

Facebook has been translated into dozens of foreign languages, but a hate group on the site in Serbian was left completely unmoderated, despite a tremendous user outcry against it.

The group "NOŽ ŽICA SREBRENICA!!" is a "Just for fun - Fan Club" of fugitive war criminal General Ratko Mladic, who was accused of genocide and crimes against humanity by an International Criminal Tribunal in 2004. Mladic commanded the Army of the Srpska Republic in the 1995 Srebrenica Massacre of over 8,000 Bosnian Muslims.

Over 1,000 supporters joined the group, which claimed it was "for all those that are against foreign Islam, for all those who are against Muslim fundamentalists and Mujahideen, for everyone who respects the work of General Mladic, and for everyone who thinks that Muslims are best served roasted, and swimming in sulfuric acid."

The existence of this group caused an uproar among Facebook users in the Balkans, leading a user named Azrudin Pecanin and two others to form a group to get "Noz Zica Srebrenica" removed. Despite having a membership of over 11,000 who were instructed to report the offending group, the hate group remained in place. Even worse, when contacted this afternoon, Facebook had no idea of either group's existence.

BetaNews spoke to Facebook today to discuss the site's policy on the moderation of foreign language groups. A representative from the social network said, "Facebook supports the free flow of information, and groups provide a forum for discussing important issues. However, Facebook will remove any groups which are violent or threatening."

Image of burning mosque on Facebook

The group's page said it was made "with the goal of making all normal people see the danger of radical Islam through jokes and fun, to share their opinions without spreading hate on any level." Included in the group's hosted imagery, however, was a user-uploaded photograph of a burning mosque, and the mention of disposing of Muslims in sulfuric acid -- a wartime method of rendering human remains untraceable -- cut too close to the bone, so to speak.

"Noz Zica Srebrenica" violated Facebook's terms of use and was removed. But were it not for the looming threat of bad press, there is no telling how long the site would have remained.

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Apparently freedom of speech is now contraband on the internet.

That's the problem with all these social networking sites. You have to agree to their policies.

Whatever happened to webrings and actual web sites?

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I don't see your point. As this is definately not freedom of speech.

If someone is lobying to kill more innocent Americans than they killed on September 11, or trying to gain support to kill more Jews, more muslims more gays or more whatever, it cannot be perceived as freedom of speech.

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You see, but they are, and do.

But I don't see El Jazeera or any of the regional governments trying to stop it nor refusing to spread diseminate the messages.

But then beheadings are just good TV...

But then those folks just see things from a slightly different perspective, don't they?

And yet too many only seem to complain when its one of their OWN interests that are compromised - isn't it?

Unfortunately, far too many who object to one groups speech, have no problem with anothers who simply happens to agree with them.

Its OK to burn a politician or someone else in effigy ( a very friendly act), but heaven forbid someone make a ridiculous cartoon that justifies the killing of people and the destruction of property.

Funny how that works, isn't it.

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As so few have any clue as to the origins of the problems in the Balkans, one just might want to read Bosnia: A Short History by Noel Malcolm.

And while nothing can really justify the Christian's genocide, a review of history just might put their feelings into perspective, as they are certainly not the originators of such a tactic. They have known it rather intimately as well - as the victims.

And while few can disagree with the unsavory recent past in the region, what is amazingly absent is the similar righteous indignation of the oh so caring folks who are totally oblivious to the past events which have built and festered until the 'oh so concerned' finally woke up and formed their opinions soley on the latest chapter in a long sordid history where each side has had their share of opportunities to ravage and abuse the other.

And while I defend neither side in this long internacine conflict, life was simply roses under the Muslim Turks... NOT!

Yup, so after so many generations of oppression and abuse - instead of their establishing defensible borders between the two groups who have, and will continue, to hate each other...it is fascinating to watch as the Johnny Come Latelies naively encourage all to simply forget real history and sing Kumbaya and enjoy a big group hug.

The real show are those who haven't a clue as to why the various groups feel so strongly about their positions - however wacko they may be.
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I know!!! The US should jump into the middle of that mess too! You know, the conflict the Euros (other than the Brits who are rightly afraid to be classified as Euros) all stood around ignoring the brawl in their living room... Oh wait! We did... under the Dems and Clinton!

Yup, change is sweet! Meet the new Cabinet - made up of the same folks who brought you....

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I am Turkish -not necessarily muslim-. Still I have difficulty understanding your point. Because I don't think whatever was going on there was based on religon as Serbians were not really nice to other former Yugoslavian countries, and yes, there were christian.

Secondly, people who were killed were Bosnians and not Turkish people. Actually if you look at the roots of Bosnians and Serbians you'd see that they come from one root, one nation and that has nothing to do with the Turkish people.

The Turkish empire was no exception. Whereever they invaded, it invaded for their resources and taxes. Unlike many others though they haven't tried to change anyone's language or religon - which Franch and English did so.

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The origins of the current issue do indeed extend back into the Ottoman Empire - when life was NOT good as a non-Muslim in the occupied regions! When you could not get a job, your property was subject to forfeit and you were not treated equally under the law! And MANY were imprisoned, tortUred and killed.

And much of the resentment that festered for generations was because neighbors, family and friends were vicTimized - and many converted to Islam because of expediency - as amazingly enough, much of the 'arbitrary' crimes ceased if one was a Muslim - amazing huh? And guess what? Those folks who did so, be they neighbors, friends or families were resented and considered traitors by those who continued to recieve such wonderful(sic) humanitarian treatment.

Hard to imagine, isn't it, if after you saw your property seized or loved ones imprisoned or murdered simply because they happen to call the SAME #$%@ god a different name, that those folks didn't remember and continue to harbor a bit of a grudge.

Now, unfortunately, those emotions are being manipulated in an equally absurd manner - but don't sit there and tell us how the Ottoman Empire was simply a legacy of peace, harmony and good will.

And it has NOTHING to do with anything the idiot Euros(esp. the British Dutch and French) did to the remainder of the toppled Ottoman empire afterwards in thir zeal to redraw the map and divide every indiginous group so as to minimize their ability to organize and to capitalize on the oil and gas resources! But I find it amazing that someone who stands up for the Turks/Ottomans who dominated and dienfranchised the local tribal leadership in the remaining regions as well, has the audacity to complain about the idiot dis-ingenuous Euros after BOTH groups subjugated and screwed with many of the same peoples in what is now the modern (well, those who do not exist in an 8th century mindset!) Middle East!

So take a bow and join the ranks of the larger group of folks who have historically screwed the region - in addition to whomever the local dictator has been that happens to rule the region. And wonder why so many still harbor emotional baggage.

Unfortunately none of the very real past justifies a continuance of the asinine internacine violence. And when they call and ask my opinion, I will be glad to share that with them. But I won't be surprised if a few don't share my epiphany.

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I caught the Serbian fascists trying to sell their Ratko Mladic and Slobodan Milosevic T-s***s on EBAY last summer. These are just like Hitler and Stalinin my book. EBAY banned some of that Nazi WW2 stuff, but has yet to get rid of items related to these butchers...

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Hmmm, as far as I know, Ratko Mladic was indicted by International Criminal Tribunal, NOT found guilty. At the moment, he can not be even found. I'm not his fan or anything, but I do notice misinterpretations like this.

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correct. It's been re-worded.

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One can actually drill through the myriad layers of 14 year old drivel to look for political groups that function at the 8 year old level?

Someone has far too much time on their hands.

Especially when you can get the lame synopsis of MySpace/FaceBook, etc in 20 minutes on TMZ.

Gee, and no update on what Britny is doing today?

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Sorry, I forgot that many of the BN staff socialize, get their best material, and do a majority of their research based on the insights posted in FaceBook. ;-)

Or was it he mention of TMZ? (...As too many here really would like to know what the latest is regarding Britny!)

LOL!

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