What happened to technical discussion about the posted article? Does anyone else find the database technology used of any interest or perhaps possible impacts on other services like ebay and such?

Some interesting talk about the article, the technology, or business impacts may be a nice change every now and then.

Just a thought.

It's working now.
http://base.google.com/

Hmm google base cool where can I get an ODBC driver or an oledb driver for it?

Great another avenue for spammers :0

It's a big man and it's proud.

I think its amazing, Google is just big, but MS is a monopoly. Perhaps some of you people need to read the definition of Monopoly a little closer..

If MS did this, you would be pissed. Since its any company OTHER than MS, oh they are just growing. You people are amazing..

I've read it, have you?

http://www.stolaf.edu/pe...t/statutes/sherman.html

There are 100 search engines out there, and google doesn't have over 90% of the "search" market.

No monopoly, though you are welcome to try to get your local DA to prosecute them.

That would be a riot, would LOVE to hear that conversation.

Aside from some of Microsofts peditory tactics i have to disagree about MS being a monopoly just because they have a huge percent of the market share it has to do with MS actualy getting out there and selling their product how often do you see Steve out thier pushing macs other than when a new model comes out maybe if Apple would try getting out there and selling the macs like they do with ipods they would get more of the market share.

Then we have Linux how many different flavors are there out there hate to say it and i'm going to get flamed for this but the Linux people may write better code but they are lazy they don't even try to sell to home users(i know most are free i'm talking features and reasons to use it)there are many linux comunities out there but how many are actualy trying to get linux to home users? Why are they not talking to companies to like Nvidia that makes Linux drivers(to ensure compatability to try to strike a deal since system builders use Nvidia parts to bundle Linux with thier systems if the system builders are afraid not to sell windows with their systems it's an easy fix and wouldn't cost much other than a bit more time getting the system out the door just partition the hard drive have windows on the larger half about 75% since windows is what most people want and Linux on the rest have duel booting software preinstalled for ease of use and a preconfugured Linux disk that you just insert and hit install and everythings set up for users that are learning Linux and are used of windows.

Of course if people don't like it it adds an extra selling point windows makes it real easy to format the partition and it can be used to store stuff you don't want to save on disks incase you decide to do a fresh install of windows.

"Linux people may write better code"

The Linux kernel driver model is evidence against that comment.

:-P

Drivers in Linux SUCK, and it's only 80% a vendor problem. They need to come up with a better driver model and get over their "tainted kernel" philosophy.

Absolutily true

Sorry... I missed your point. MS has been convited of being a monopoly in the past. There are literally countless examples of Microsoft's poor ethics and anti-competitive business practices.

Google has done nothing that could even be remotely compared.

you seem to be confusing your words...below you spoke of SPAM, I question your understanding of that term. Here you speak of Monopoly, and again, I question your understanding.

Google has not used it's size/massive amounts of cash to exploit, extort, or corner any other business period. They have been a boon to the industry by competing, not being anti-competitive. Their competition has evolved and improved their services in direct response to Google's innovations.

This is bad? Give me a break.

Their being a monopoly has little to do with their size and much to do with their ability to control the market.

It tends to revolve around large companies and massive amounts of cash, but a monopoly does not require them. It simply requires that a company have not only the ability to control the market, but can be proven to have used that ability to drive competitors out of the market in such a way as to make themselves anti-competitive.

Google has done no such thing. Microsoft has, many times over.

Not to mention the fact that Google has NO control over the desktop operating system. A major reason the MS is considered a harmful monopoly is the control that they have over the desktop and the manor in which they have used that control to inhibit competition. This is common knowledge and generally accepted by all but their most unreasonable defenders.

Okay...

While MS control of the desktop may lead to the *preception* of monopoly, it does not, in fact, have a damn thing to do with it.

Just trying to head off future claims of other comapnies being monopolies simply because everyone usess their software/services in lieu of the OS provided "desktop".

Pretty soon, OS isn't going to mean sh*t. Most people percieve the desktop *as* the OS. Someone will shortly come along with a desktop alternative that will be 100% cross-platform (web based?) and will make every system look, feel, and act the same, regardles of the underlying OS.

Here's a hint... It'll probably be in public beta for *years*.

And wincement...it'll never happen. ;P

SWEET!

I'm looking forward to it.

lol

Point taken but slightly disagreed with.

The only reson Microsoft controls the market so much is the fact that the other choices(Mac and Linux) even seem to make any attempt to get thier products to the average home user if they did i'm sure that they would be able to get MS down to about 80% and if they manage to do that MS would start rethinking compatability since they make other software other than operating systems and would want these people to use these products.

Did a little bit of online shopping about 10-12 random electronics stores guess how many Linux distros i found 2 Linspire and Suse Linux both at tigerdirect as i said now serious attempt to take control away from MS if a few Linux distros actualy got out there and sold to the big box stores(at cost since many are not profit driven)so people coult see alternatives out there for 25-30 bucks(stores would want to make a bit of profit) they would consider giving it a try after all how many people out there are running windows 95/98 and don't want to upgrade their hardware to run XP or Vista and are looking for something newer.

The only real attemp i've read of is that Sony is considering having a version of Linux preinstalled on the PS3s hard drive.

"The only reson Microsoft controls the market so much is the fact that the other choices(Mac and Linux) even seem to make any attempt to get thier products to the average home user"

No, it's because every computer in every store comes with Windows on it.

No regular user is going to buy from a no-name shop or build it themselves.

That is why Microsoft still has and probably always will have 90% of the desktop.

Why would it have to be a no name shop whats stopiing places like wal-mart from selling it or places like it they would probaly do it to for a linke on the distros home page.

No, it's because every computer in every store comes with Windows on it.

Did you miss the part about working with system builders putting it on a partitiion along with windows i'm not talking about custom built computer stores i'm talking about Dell,HP you know the brand names all it would take is a diclaimer that they don't give suport to the linux software which of course they will put in the small print that most people don't read or since most of these system builders are letting people customise it could atleast be an option that they can charge 30 bucks for like i said you dont hear of any atemps at doing this.

What do I keep saying?

Google is too big and they are the Devil.

'Tis true my friends.

Google is going to be a bad thing in the near future. The sooner you realize that the better off you'll be.

SM, see my post below. Thanks.

Oh, hey, on your way home tonight..

Could you possibly slide your car into a gas tanker? I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

No, not a tanker that might hurt someone else. How about a tree. No, not worth hurting the tree. Just off a cliff then.

What you fail to realize is, you are already sucked into the Google collective. Servermechanic is correct. Google is the devil. They own a spam company and they use your email for profiling on the internet..

You can choose to believe what you wish, but the proof is there, you are just too blind to see it.

I don't even use Google other than to search. What am I to blind to see? I have gmail accounts but I never use them.

What's the spam company?

Where is your proof?

Wow. Anything at *all* to back that up with? I've been using just about every Google service since it's inception and i have *yet* to recieve an unsolicited email from Google.

You *do* know what SPAM is, right?

Since the proof is "there", care to show anyone?

Wow...SM and now you. And here I thought there was already enough FUD to go around.

But hey, strap that tinfoil hat on tight and have a nice day, man. Sounds like you could use a few.

You just say that with nothing to back it up and you are just making your self look like a damn fool.

Funny how the Bible misspells "Google" as "God."

lmao.

I'm waiting to see that Google has bought out ThinkFree and that they now offer an Office like product via the web for free. You then store everything in Google Base and it's all indexable, searchable and... I think I need to make a phone call. :-)

I'm sure something alon gthose lines will show up "Real Soon Now"(tm)

Great. Now we'll never see it.

Thanks a lot.

Oh sh1t! Sorry.

"It'll never Happen"(tm).

"It'll never Happen"(tm).

"It'll never Happen"(tm).

"It'll never Happen"(tm).

"It'll never Happen"(tm).

"It'll never Happen"(tm).

(x 100 on chalkboard followed by school-bell)

There, gotta grab the skateboard and get home now.

It's too late. The damage has been done.

*shakes head in sorrow*

GOOGLE IS TOO BIG ...
sry just wanted to get u mad ^^
acctually as long as google doesnt start manufacturing anything that has anything to do with war and weapons n s*** ... im not worried

the bad thing would be if microsoft starts making weapons and other war products. Then we should worry. Imagine a missile hacked while trying to reach its target :P

Microsoft is already taking a part in the defense of our country. About 98% of every computer in every branch of service runs Windows, NT, 2000, XP, 2003. DOD, CIA, NSA, FBI, they all have machines that run windows. Why... probally cause there a lot user friendly, and compatible. Everyone one of those computers has Office on it too. Windows and Office is the standard, adopted by our government.

Resistance is Futile...
You will comply...

Google Base. Is this the one on the Moon, or so they have another now?

Note to ServerMechanic: Yes, we know Google is too big for your liking. Please find something else to post.

LMAO. I think that they used that plasma drive to go to Mars and build it there. They open next week.

EDIT: Here http://spaceflight.nasa....upport/researching/aspl/

Well, we should call you Google Jr. You sound like their advertising campaign, what are you bucking for them to hire you are something? I think they already have a janitor, but hey maybe you can be the full time floor buffer...

lmao..

Yeah, that's me. Watch your step, please.