It seems ICQ has posted a link on their Web site's front page that reads "Banners on ICQ Messages?! Voice your opinion here!" It includes a link to a message board on ICQ's Web site as well as a link to the BetaNews article and forum. Make your voice heard and tell us what you think about the addition of banner ads to ICQ messages.
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The patch that was posted earlier works perfectly. I didn't have to go through using an older version. I was very upset with AOL when all of a sudden I had banners that I didn't ask for and they didn't even put an option in the preferences for you to turn them on or off. I handle network security and noticed that the banners open up quite a few ports and this anerves me to no end because this leaves me open. The only way to not have those ports open is to remove ICQ completely.
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|"Uh, sir, I can tell ya, right now, that would.. that would be, uh, NO...no, to ads." "Watch it, Johnson!"
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|The ads move by AOL shows that what a sucker management they have.. and what advertisement acumen!!
If I were on their board, I being a doc and having nothing to do with marketing, the following would have been my recommendation:
Netscape made the navigator free to attract users to the Netcenter which generated all their revenue.
Now AOL ICQ can copy the model. for example, while users search for other people on ICQ, instead of limiting the return addresses to 40, ICQ can make a searchable, ad enabled whitepages (like bigfoot.com).
Also, they can improve the online status bar and encourage all personal homepage builders to incorporate them into their pages.. they have to push it still...
If they really want to shove those stupid ads in every ICQ user, I should tell them to update, renovate and build newer ICQ versions very often and offer downloads (only) from their home pages.
so guys... what do you think?
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|At our business we are currently running ICQ on all our machines. Some have older versions of ICQ (99b) and some have 2000a and up. After we came back from the weekend, none of my 2000a and up clients could connect. All my 99b clients could however. I knew it wasn't an issue with ICQ since I am using 2000b at home with no problems. To make a long story short, I downloaded trillian to see if it could connect from my machine to the icq network, and it did no problem! I wondered what the difference was between the connection Trillian was using and ICQ was using. Turns out, Trillian uses login.oscar.aol.com, while ICQ 2000a and up uses login.icq.com. I put login.oscar.aol.com into my ICQ client, AND SURE ENOUGH IT CONNECTED! We are running a firewall here, which has ICQ allowed to go through, but this makes no sense. I put that login server into all the 2000 clients that weren't working, and sure enough it now works. Man I hate AOL!!!
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|In addition to above, Seems AT&T did some upgrades this weekend, and the problems started after that. I emailed them about DNS issues, and lo and behold a couple of hours later I can get to the icq website and login through login.icq.com. AT&T of course never emailed me back saying anything was wrong, but that's the way it goes when you get big I guess. Same thing with AOL too...buy things up and make them worse. And of course never get a response (unless it's automated) from them either. Now if I could just add AOL users to my ICQ list (and don't tell me to use trillian or odigo, I have and I do, but AOL owns both ICQ and AIM, make them interoperable!) I would be set. I'm off my soapbox now.
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|i dont like the idea of banners as they take up to much room and pixels.i always click off any advertising that comes with sites i look at.
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|People... go get Odigo at www.Odigo.com
no I dont work there....
There is VOICE and no banners.... and you still can use ICQ..
they have a addon to see ICQ buddies. Also incorperates AIM if you want it to.
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|Actually Odigo has ads, but not in the message windows, but in any case, it's MUCH less disturbing (well, it wasn't conquered and spoiled by AOL so I can imagine why)
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|http://underworldcreations.hypermart.net Hot Downloads Section, for the banner removal patch Works Killer
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|http://www.modemnet.net
For explinations see past messages.
-modem
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|Whoops wrong url.
http://www.modemnet.net/icq
Thats what I get after a full day of work and classes. :)
-modem
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|Anyone else having issues connecting to ICQ's site? ICQ won't start and site won't come up. Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same thing...
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|My ICQ has been very unstable almost couple weeks. I think it's because those ads loads the server too much. But I'm not one those server burners, I've removed then already. =)
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|Don't give up this fight...that's what they want us to do. Write to AOL and tell them that we're pissed off about these banners.
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|Do you really think they'll listen? Do corporations as large as that ever listen to complaints about the amount of advertising they do?
No. Forget about complaining, forget about the possibility that they might take note of what's said in this forum. Within a couple of days of these ads appearing on ICQ there were cracks available to remove them, also comprising a lot of other cracks for ICQ features: bypass authorisation when adding to list, unhide hidden IP addresses for users, etc.
Whenever someone does something unpopular to a piece of software, there's someone around who will find a way around it and make it available to everyone. If they release an upgraded version, the cracker will release an updated crack. Just use http://astalavista.box.sk for cracks.
I've seen people mentioning this Trillian software so I'll check it out. I've never been enamoured with MSNM, YPager or even the idea of installing AIM, what with it being AOL software which I've always tried to avoid like the plague. Gutted that they've bought out Mirabilis as I've never had any problems with ICQ, I use a fair few of its features, file transfer, SMS (being UK based, the SMS feature is particularly useful), mail checking, voice messages, VoIP, direct connection live chat etc, simply because they are all available from one simple user interface. Anyone who finds ICQ hard to use is, quite frankly, a moron.
I also run ICQPlus, from http://www.icqplus.org, with which I have no problem either. Probably the best (if not the only?) skin application for ICQ. The best thing about ICQ, and the reason I prefer it over most other apps, is its ability to find a way out through a firewall. It's the only chat program I have found which can fool the firewall admins where I work, and for that I'm grateful.
So, my advice is, keep ICQ if you like it, crack it to get rid of the bits you don't like. Simple.
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|Do you really think they'll listen? Do corporations as large as that ever listen to complaints about the amount of advertising they do?
No. Forget about complaining, forget about the possibility that they might take note of what's said in this forum. Within a couple of days of these ads appearing on ICQ there were cracks available to remove them, also comprising a lot of other cracks for ICQ features: bypass authorisation when adding to list, unhide hidden IP addresses for users, etc.
Whenever someone does something unpopular to a piece of software, there's someone around who will find a way around it and make it available to everyone. If they release an upgraded version, the cracker will release an updated crack. Just use http://astalavista.box.sk for cracks.
I've seen people mentioning this Trillian software so I'll check it out. I've never been enamoured with MSNM, YPager or even the idea of installing AIM, what with it being AOL software which I've always tried to avoid like the plague. Gutted that they've bought out Mirabilis as I've never had any problems with ICQ, I use a fair few of its features, file transfer, SMS (being UK based, the SMS feature is particularly useful), mail checking, voice messages, VoIP, direct connection live chat etc, simply because they are all available from one simple user interface. Anyone who finds ICQ hard to use is, quite frankly, a moron.
I also run ICQPlus, from http://www.icqplus.org, with which I have no problem either. Probably the best (if not the only?) skin application for ICQ. The best thing about ICQ, and the reason I prefer it over most other apps, is its ability to find a way out through a firewall. It's the only chat program I have found which can fool the firewall admins where I work, and for that I'm grateful.
So, my advice is, keep ICQ if you like it, crack it to get rid of the bits you don't like. Simple.
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|If we want to complain about something, let's whine about IE's tendency to repost messages when you use the back button to try to trace your way back somewhere. A "retry" clicked at the wrong time and you've got two massive posts in a thread instead of one. What are they going to do about that? That's what I'd like to know. Grrr!
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|I have been forced to quit using ICQ, even though I was one of the first subscribers, since AOL has destroyed the service and started with the annoying ads.
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|I HATE THE BANNERS AT ICQ's MESSAGE BOX!
Odio Las Banderas En El Rectángulo Del Mensaje De ICQ!
Je Déteste Les Drapeaux Au Cadre De Message D'ICQ!
Ich Hasse Die Fahnen Am ICQ Meldung Kasten!
Odio Le Bandiere Alla Casella Del Messaggio Di ICQ!
Eu Odeio As Bandeiras Na Caixa Da Mensagem Do ICQ!
私はICQ's のメッセージ・ボックスで旗を憎む!
나는 ICQ's 메시지 상자에 기치를 미워한다 !
我仇恨横幅于ICQ's 信息框!
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|http://www.echostation.com/efront/
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-5148422.html
Talk about ****ed! :)
laterz
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|Now watch, the BetaNews folks will delete your post as they've done several times before because they don't want the truth revealed...
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|Have you noticed the same news have been on the main page for about 2 weeks now..it's like they abandoned the site. I don't blame them
The employees probably aren't getting paid due to efront
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|Look, I can't comment on the whole eFront thing, but believe me the site has not been abandoned. And you might also notice that that post want not deleted, even though it really had no relevance. When this thing is resolved, we all hope the results on BetaNews will be very positive.
Justin Jenkins
BetaNews
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|Rest assured everything on the net will eventually become pay per view, whether sooner or later it surely will happen. They have been threatning for years to make ICQ a pay program. Now they will ask you what you think of the ICQ ads, when all is done they will conclude, hey lets start charging $20 per user for subscription and registration of the program. Might not happen tomorrow, but I betcha it happens. Maybe I'm wrong, that's just my opinion.
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|I was also fed up with all this ICQ stuff so I switched to Trillian (http://www.trillian.com)
No ads, skinnable and connects to all popular messengers with no probability for ads in the software or on their site.
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|I've probably now read 500 posts between this site and ICQ regarding the banners in the messaging windows on ICQ. What I find ironic is this site, Beta News has advertising. Advertising is how companies support their development efforts, and pay for the equipment to run their sites. Advertising is how the entire Network TV Industry was developed in the United States. In all the posts I've seen minimal suggestions on other forms of advertising ICQ should rely on for revenue, or other methods besides advertising for ICQ to get revenue. What I think would be constructive would be for the ICQ Community to make suggestion on forms of advertising that would be acceptable.
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|This is going know where....Let AOL know that we're pissed off!! Write them, sell your stock...do whatever...just let them know!
Keep ICQ banner free!!
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|Everywhere you look there is an ad. I'm getting sick of them. Whats next, Ads on your mouse pointer? Or ads on stop signs?
Don't the developers themselves use icq and don't the ads bother them?
bleh
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|Ads on your mouse pointer? Too late, someone got that idea already.... http://www.adready.net/ **sigh**
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|DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT FREE s***.
If you don't like the ads, TOUGH. Use something else. They obviously need money to stay in business. How else do you propose they scrape up the cash? Begging on 42nd street?
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|I don't know what planet you are from...maybe on pluto AOL needs the money to stay in business but here on good ole earth, AOL-Time Warner is one of the biggest companies there is. So they don't need money to stay in business, they just want money period.
-modem
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|oh please.....
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|I rather pay so much a year for a service like this. I knew when AOL bought ICQ that it would lead to this. Steve Case is a greedy a** wipe and has been ripping off people for years and getting by with it because of thier lawyers. Maybe the justice department should look into them, they were buying everything up while Microsoft was under the microscope. Are they any different? No. Now I just got a email about paying 5 cents for emails. Who is behind this?
Please, !!!!! read the following carefully if you intend to stay
online and continue using email.
The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in the Government of
the United States attempting to quietly push through legislation that
will affect our use of the internet.
Under the proposed legislation, the U. S. Postal Service will be
attempting to bill email users out of alternative postage fees. Bill
602P will permit the Federal Government to charge 5 cent surcharge on
every email delevered by billing ISP's at source. The consumer would
then be billed in turn by the ISP
Washington D. C. lawyer, Richard STepp is working withoug pay to prevent
this legislation from becoming law. The U. S. Postal Service is
claiming lost revenue due to the proliferation of email...is costing
nearly 230,000 in revenue per year. You may have noticed their new ad
campaign, there's nothing like a letter....Since the average person
receives about 10 pieces of amil per day...the cost typically could be a
minimum of .50 a day or 180.00 a year, over and above the cost you are
now paying for your regular internet usage.
NOTE: this money is going to be paid directly to the U. S. Postal
Service ....and they do not even provide a service for these fees.The
whole point
of the Internet is democracy and noninterference. You are already
paying an exorbitant price forsnail mail because of bureaucratic
efficiency. It currently takes upto 6 daysfor a letter to be delivered
from coast to coast.
If the US Postal Service is allowedto tinker with E-mail, it will mark
the end of the free" Internet
in the United States. Our congressional representative, TonySchnell (R)
has even suggested a
"$20-$40 per month surcharge on all Internet service" above andbeyond
the governments proposed
E-mail charges
Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored the story -the only
exception being the Washingtonian - which called the idea of E-mail
surcharge "a useful concept who's time has come" March 6th, 1999
Editorial).
Do not sit by and watch your
freedom erode away! Send this E-mail to EVERYONE on your list,
and tell all your friends and relatives to write their congressional
representative and say "NO" to Bill 602P. It will only take afew moments
of your time andcould very well be instrumental inkilling a bill we do
not want.
Please forward!
Fight Back! I am. Words are words unbless you back them up
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|I just found out that the email thing was a hoax, do I feel like a ass? yes, but I sand by everything else
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|Of course it's a hoax, but it could never happen because e-mail is an international thing. Nobody owns it, and if the USPS interferes, either
(1) someone will invent another equivalent protocol
(2) people will get free e-mail from countries outside the U.S..
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|I think that ICQ should give users the option to turn off the ads, should they desire. There is enough advertising already on the net and we shouldn't have it crammed down our throats.
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|Yes, I mind the intrusion on ads on my conversations, very much so, not only is it distracting, but it cut's down on the space for conversations. How do I get rid of them, eh?
AOL sure knows how to screw up a good thing, no I can't believe these ad's are necessary, they regularly don't work (less than a 10% hit ratio, aol's fact).I just hope that AOL won't intrude farther into my system, as I've always had to delete everything else of theirs to keep them out, I'm not the only person I know who has had their system seize up due to AOL's cross linked files. Back off you damn fools, ICQ is the only saving grace you have to your corporate name!
Till they dissappear, I'll just ignore the ad's and pass on the hint NOT to hit any of them.
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|I don't like them and everyone I talk to doesn't either!!!
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|Let AOL know that we aren't giving up this fight. It's NOT only us users, but the WHOLE darn net.
Keeo ICQ banner free!!
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|They want people's opinions? Like they don't know already. Sure, there are a few masochists out there willing to sacrifice themselves at the alter of corporate America, in the name of "glorious" capitalism. The majority opinion is already well-known on this subject, however: f**k-off with your lousy ads. This call for input is simply another example of powerful interests paying lip service to the concerns of those they mistreat and abuse. Don't be surprised or disillusioned when they ignore you and everybody and continue on their merry way. Maybe be angry at yourself for believing they care.
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|There are already a proliferation of tricks all over the web to easily remove the ads and still keep the latest version. The best one simply relpaces 1 dll (ICQcore.dll). Email me if you want details.
al92lt1@saturnnet.com or ICQ me 7423510
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|it sux - maximus suxius lamey
or... ICQ is a spyware (ooooh!! scarry)
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|I hate banners in general ... this flickering little things all over the greatest websites - and now it is in my icq ?!?!? I hate it ... really ... I have ICQ since 1997 (sorry forgot the version no.) :o(((
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|Send me the setup file for that version. I'd be interested to see if it's one that I don't have so I can add to my collection. Email it to me: bawalker@modemnet.net
-modem
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|Is it even really necessary for them to do this? They already know what everyone thinks about ads.
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|I wish they didn't have to destroy every good program with ads I can't wait for my winamp to start poping up ads when I listen to music.
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|Well AOL can be assured that if a single ad appears in WinAmp, I'm going to Sonique or Windows Media Player.
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|Just posting again as reminders for the ones who haven't seen yet. Don't worry I hate spam as much as anyone, but the beta news posts build up so quickly I like to keep a fresh reminder for folks. :)
Anyway I have versions ICQ 1.0 (1.113), ICQ 98a, ICQ 99a, ICQ 99b, ICQ2000b (no ads version). I downloaded 2000b back in December but several people have reported it to have the ads as well. Did ICQ plant a call home feature...did they plan ahead?? If someone can confirm the version I have posted does have ads let me know ASAP.
All of these versions have been tried, checked and work fine, virus free and are all orginial files right from icq.com. I am investingating other files I recieved as ICQ for Win3.11, and ICQ 1.0 (1.112) version...but their file sizes are much larger (1.4mb) vs my older version (816kb) Until I verify those as orginial I won't post them for fear of being faked or something else.
Everyone enjoy the oldies...but great ICQ versions!
http://www.modemnet.net/icq
-modem
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|I upgraded to 2000b back in Nov or Dec of last year... then for a while I had no ad's...
All of a sudden there are these stupid freaking ad's in my incoming message windows... it seems that AOL has planted a call home feature into ICQ that auto updates... you have to go into the registry for the current user and disable the auto-update feature in the default settings registry.
I hate it when people decide that they know what you want better than you do yourself... it smacks of arrogance and is insulting to everyone
Have a nice day
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|Thanks for that. I'll run some tests with it and see if it does have the call home feature and change my post accordingly.
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|FWIW, the registry key to turn off AutoUpdate (aka Call Home "feature") is "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Mirabilis\ICQ\DefaultPrefs\Auto Update". Change that from "Yes" to "No".
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|One of the ICQ99's do not have ads. I've been using it for some time now, with no ads.
I refuse to use the latest bloatware they offer. 99 is lite, quick to load, and has none of those damnable ads.
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|I agree the ads are annoying and intrusive, bit it's the entire UI which needs an overhaul. It's the most cumbersome, and needlessly complicated to navigate of any chat program. The average user will not use 1/3 of the features, but they are burdened with wading through the options to customize the features they do use. Far too many menu's with too many obscure descriptions. While I prefer ICQ 10-to-1 over AIM, MSN, YahooIM, those have the advantage of being infinitely easier to learn and use. The whole shareware/community look and feel of the ICQ UI was cute in the beginning, but it's getting a little long in the tooth now.
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|I've used ICQ for almost 4 years, and honestly, it has gotten more bloated than ever. When ICQ 2000A first came out, might as well give it a try. BAD MOVE! The stuff on ICQ 2000 is just useless. I've been using ICQ99B (the latest build) for almost 3 years now, and so far, I have no problems with it, no ads and useless tools. To be honest, I would go back to ICQ98 if I can find it anywhere on the net.
That's the reason why I have been staying away from ICQ2000 because of it's useless features and a crapload of spam ads appear. So what if they're trying to make money? Doesn't AOL have enough of it all ready? Mirabilis didn't put any ads in ICQ (when it first came out) and it's still free. I find ICQ99B the best version of ICQ today... I just wish AOL haven't taken over Mirabilis... I would probably would use ICQ2000B without their stupid ads.
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|i completely agree with you. i'm still using 99b and would goto 98a if it had the groups feature. anyway, if you still want 98a e-mail me at zealot21@hotmail.com and i can give it to you.
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|http://www.modemnet.net/icq/
You can old versions of icq there.
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|Honestly I got kind of surprised when the ads popped. I see it in two ways.. now we have a way to advertise right in people's faces and two it sucks to have an add in the way.
I guess ICQ is looking to see if people would rather pay an amount for the software or not. If people pay an amount for it they should offer the opportunity to remove the ads.
It is understandable, AOL wants to make money.. I don't blame them..
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|Ok...I am playing the devel's advocate here, but what's the fuss? People have a right to make money. How can we honestly EXPECT company's to not only give away their software/service (which has a lot of development costs) and then cry foul when they can generate a revenue stream and STILL keep it free to all.
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|Like man, even thought if AOL tries to make money thought the ads, people wont bother to clikc on this stupid nuisance, so I doubt they will make alot of money anyways. What they shoul do is have one Ad at evry tiem you launcICQ that says "Click here to visit our sponsers" With an ad over there. Or, If they dont want to put an ad there, while it is downloading or when you get a link, they should put ads there (small ones) that are less intrusive.
Just one (or two)
not fifty.
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|sorry....
while it is downloading
should have read, 'while it is transefering a file' from user to user.
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|It's not the ads themselves that bother me, it's the merciless wastage of my valuable screen real estate that pisses me off. I sometimes stack ICQ message windows with people I chat with often, and I keep them on top of other windows for convenience. But now that the ads are taking up huge amounts of space in the message windows, I can't stack them without covering half my screen.
I, for one, have switched to using Trillian, which supports ICQ, AOL, Yahoo, and MSN and has a nice clutter-free, adless interface.
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|http://www.ruijs.org/icq
And they really ain't a big deal! Download this automatic setup program and all ICQ-ads will be gone in a sec.!
It really works great!
http://www.ruijs.org/icq
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|You didn't read a word I wrote, did you?
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|I would love to grab that software Trillian.. can you send me info about it like where to download etc?? my e-mail is mambogilly@hotmail.com
thanks
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|After a week this is the only news they have come up with? I want the OLD Beta News Back (And I am not talking about the old layout)
Come on Wheres the news?
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|Screw ICQ and AIM. I admit ICQ is a nice program, but how many back doors does it have? AIM and all the problems with users stealing others passwords etc... now even more ads. Use Yahoo Messenger! Better than AIM, less features than ICQ, but no Ads,... I don't need pager support anyways or most of the useless features ICQ has. Just an idea!
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|hahahah.. How many do you want listed.. Should be called "IseeYou" and don't think you can hide. What do they want us to say, o yeah we luv these ads please give us more. For real how do these idiots think?
There are many programs out there to "do away" with them and i see several are listed here and you can also do it by renaming a few dll files if your iffy about d/l icqcore.dll
2 things i can't stand are pop-ups and ads. Screw them both.
Modem versions are great on his page with the ability to d/l different versions if you not into all those "woderful" "haha" additons they put on.
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|I use ICQ, MSN, and Yahoo, yahoo goes down too much for me and it's not available in all the geographical locations that I use ICQ. Why should I have to limit myself because some corporate greedy jerk thinks I don't mind looking at his ad? Bullcrap! The damn ads don't work anyway, AOL posts their success rate and it's less than 10%. Their are just intrusive agressive buttheads who think we are too stupid to care. I say, find a way to delete the damn ads and let AOL know you won't use any other of their products. Who was the genius that sold out to AOL anyway, what a lame brained idea!
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|Don't be a moron and belive for a minute aol gives a rat's a** about your opinion, we're talking about a company who puts their lame cd's into children's cereal boxes. They are interested in one thing, revenue. Here's a msg for ICQ - you can tell Ted 'anti-christ' Turner, and Steve 'Hitler Jr.' Case to suck my @$$ before I'd install any new version of aol infected bloatware.
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|This was news nearly a week ago
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|Then get your news somewhere else.
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|He obviously does.
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|It makes it very difficult to type anything in an instant message to someone, since the banners are usually flashing & very distracting. If I wanted to click on banners and pop-ups, I'd be out of memory & my computer would be frozen. I think they should re-think this & get rid of them! Just putting in my 2 cents.
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|just make the program smaller. 40 megs for a crappy chat program? lets get real. ICQ = 40 megs AIM = 6
feature vs feature this is a no contest win for AIM. banners or not.
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|Where do you get 40 megs from? Mine is only 19.9 MB, not nearly 40 MB. Although, I do agree that ICQ doens't have anything that AIM doesn't and AIM is easier to take out all of the banners, using programs (http://www.jdennis.net/DeadAIM/DeadAIM.zip) or manually (taking out about 5 lines out of aim.odl). Very simple :)
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|or run behind a firewall that blocks ticker's port, we have to run it via https at work and i don't get any ads.
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|I love the ability to customize ICQ however a lot more. I do like the speed of AIM over ICQ, but ICQ has features that just are really useful for organizations, etc.
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|doesnt have anything aim doesnt? ok its been a while since I used aim, but last time I checked it didnt have :
message/chat history (which is where most of the other guys 40mb will be)
better chat (character by character is far better in my opinion)
random chat partner
good people search (the white pages)
better status options (dnd etc)
sms (awesome feature - being able to talk to someone if they are at their computer or not for free is definitely a bonus for icq)
I dont know why aim is so popular in america - icq seems to be more popular around the rest of the world. Maybe its because aol has a stronger presence in america.
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|oh and offline msgs! forgot the obvious! does aim do that? it didnt last time I tried it.
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|ONLY??? 19 megs???
my icq2000b runs around 9 megs of ram here, on a p733 w/ 384 megs of ram, but still, that is way high for a stupid ****ing messenger. MS's uses like 3.
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|wtf has the spec of your machine got to do with anything!? geeesh people used to say cars were an extension to a part of a guys anatomy, you seem to think your pc spec is apparently!
mines a 1ghz tbird running at 1.1ghz, with 512mb ram btw, so mines bigger than yours nuhnuhnanuhnuh!
anyway, if you werent too busy looking for an excuse to start braggin about what you got, i think you will find they were talking about disk space used not ram.
incidently, my icq install uses 2.9mb ram, 161mb disk space.
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|What's wrong? how can you compare resource usage without sys specs? Anyway, I quit ICQ when it reached 6megs download, it's just too much. I se msn now, it doesn't have many features, but it's quick and at least lets you change your screen name without everyone else having to update their copies of your profile.
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