I downloaded this because I like Flight Simulators... but it would not run. I have a 6 month old P4 Dual Core 4200, with an ASUS 128 Extreme EX550 and as suggested I downloaded the latest Video Drivers... but still it will not launch.

So this is the new trend from Microsoft?:

Halo 3 standard: 3 missions, a car and a bicycle.
Halo 3 Premium: full featured.

Im sorry to say that this is not bashing, i'm afradi that this could become true from now on.

SHHH*T!!! I've visited www.x-plane.com and the screens at it's Home are damn photorealistic!!! great textures!!!

Umm... it's a *free* trial.

sh*t, wincement! i already know what THIS is, but i am talking about what may come!!!

Demo says it will take 15 gig, but that must be for the full product, the demo only takes a little over 1 gig after install.

FSX crashes even before I get to have a test flight.

Note: My comp doesn't suck, it could handle Aero Glass in Vista with decent speed (in build 5472)

my didn't crash and i was able to fly. sourdought... slideshow flying...
and my computer can run the 2004 fine

sweet...

XPlane (www.x-plane.com) is hands down much better than MSFS will ever be, also runs on Mac and Linux. With full imagery (7 dual-layer DVDs total), it runs about 69 bucks.

It also already supports net flight, etc. even cross platform.

ok, for those of you that not seriously into FS. MSFS is the most sophisticated flight sim so far and has a huge ammount of users and third party developers. the original sim left a lot of places underdeveloped wich was quikly fullfilled by third party products. i myself own boeing 767 by Level-d. great addon that cost me 50$ - more then the game! (yeah i probably could download it but unlike every other game, the market for this addon is very shalow, so i bought it to see more products)

so far microsoft did a significant change every second release - FS98 was a break through, fs2000 improvement upon 98, 2002 new from groud up, 2004 improved 2002.
so this title being awaited for very long time as significant breakthrough in flight simulation. i can't wait to see how it looks now 3 years after the fs2004. a lot of space on disk?? not at all - it covers the entire globe. one of the addons that was released for 2004 was improved land mesh - 8.5 Gb of just elevation data and no texture!!! can u imagine adding hi res texture into it. i'm actually going to install it and run it from dedicated HDD, maybe even striped.

it is very ineresting, at least to me. i'm going to try and download as soon as im home. cant wait!!!
and if you not interested why bash it?

14GB is a bit large for a game that most will be bored with after a week if that long.

If you know you will be bored with this game in a week why the heck buy it? It's pretty obvious what the game is from just the title. If you don't like flight simulators than you wouldn't buy it. (Yes, there are people out there who actually spend hours on flight sim games with no combat)

i haven't been bored of 2004 (although 3 year old graphics start to get on my nerves). for me - the more the better.

For what it's worth, if you install all the scenary for X-plane, it's 80Gb !

MS is such a copy cat company. Thy are just naming this 'X' because that's what Apple named their OS.

I wonder how many Mac users will buy this program by mistake?

Do you really believe what you just typed here?

I guess Apple should rename all their product line, since "i" has been used way before iPod, iChat, etc.

X was used long before your beloving "OS X". OS was used all these years as in DOS, WOS, NOS. When Apple does it, it's orginal, because instead of haveing "OS" in the back, they put it in the front.

The Romans founded Apple Computer?

sarcasm

All of Rome hates you now.

What's scary is that there are probably at least a few Mac users out there that agreed with you. Hence, many not getting the sarcasm. :P

Mmmm… If only M$ can achieve the level of success that Apple has at the moment. I guess the only way to do that is to use X.

And where did Apple copy X from??? The Romans??? or DirectX???

*Sn******

*Edit* The text filter is a little too over zealous, don't you think...

*Sn1gger*

Apple fanboy

I am Mac, I am PC

Yes, I've actually run across that one, sadly.

Flight Sim X does look nicer than Flight Sim 10. Plus you have Corel Paint Shop Pro X. So is it a copy of Apple? I wouldn't really say so. To me this just looks like another person tryin to stir up a MS vs Apple fanboy fight. Blah blah blah. Apple did not invent Roman Numerals.

it won't be many since there aren't that many mac user out there anywhere.

and, when can a mac able to play game?

shouldn't you guys be saying snicker instead? ;p

*shakes head*

No culture in these kids today...

I have X-plane on my Mac - I also have Civilisation III (I wonder whay they will call their version 10 :-), World of Warcraft (which I still haven't had time to play) and several others.

Games work pretty well on Macs...as an aside, they happen to have better real-time behaviour than PCs.

I guess the roman language copied Apple too by using X to denotes 10 in their numeric system?!

X is way too common to be called "special" for someone to copy.

Boot Camp users could run it, albeit it may be slower than running on a PC.

Wait...

Optimized for Vista, yet uses DX-9?

How is that any different than optimized for XP?

They are just trying to get more people to Vista when it comes out.

How will that happen? It works with XP. Who'd need to move to Vista because of this?

The more hype, the more likely for people to buy it.

nah, I really think Vista will take a long time to take off. Vista's failure is more or less cause of WinXP's success. XP runs everything, and it's stable. Yes, it' STABLE, I am open to flame.

I reboot my XP MCE2005 once a month - on patch tuesday.

Actually, it will be optimized to use DirectX-10, which will only be in Vista. Thus, it is optimized for Vista, although it will run on XP.

same here. all depend what you do. if you go and download alot of those free programs, then you will have a unstable OS.

2k sp4 and XP Pro are great. I don't care what anyone says XP is strong.

Yep, that has been my experience. My system doesn't gradually get unstable, everytime I install freeware/betaware programs its stability slips minutely but noticeably; eventually I have tried enough of that junk I need to reinstall. That is the true source of "Windows Rot" in my opinion, at least since Win2K. I have to say, with XP, even my system stability doesn't suffer as much, just performance and general feeling of cleanliness.
I have only blue screened twice in XP, and it is a semi-reproduceable issue between two third-party applications and my some of my hardware.

I really liked Win2000, and still use it on a machine; but SP4 felt like it really really slowed it down.

DirectX X, huh?

Huh, isn't "stability slips minutely but noticeably" the SAME as "gradually get unstable"?

--->My system doesn't gradually get unstable, everytime I install freeware/betaware programs its stability slips minutely but noticeably

With XP you won't be able to take on any hand luggage, and you have to be seated 2 hours before playing.

With Vista, this isn't the case.