Do any one have these invites to share with me Windows live messenger and microsoft mail beta!!
My e-mail is adonius4ever@hotmail.com

God bless you and have a joyfull christmas

i live in india . i have got an invitation of microsoft mail beta . But when i click onto it , an messege appears that this feature is not available in ur area ....
what sud i do to activate that link???????????

any comments . plz send to my mail

@ mainak Please E-mail me at adonius4ever@hotmail.com i have an sollution!!

Merry christmas to you!

The difference between Messenger Live and Gmail invites is that Google put their foot down on the sale/auction of Gmail invites.

MS on the other hand is encouraging it and even putting up a pool to see how much people can be suckered to pay for MS Messenger invites.

It leaves a bad taste in the mouth to be manipulated that way.

What are you talking about? I saw Gmail invites for sale all over the place until they opened it up to anyone with a cell phone.

As a current beta tester of Live Messenger, let me tell you: they should be paying me. It's gaudy, obnoxious, confusing, and messy. Give me back the simple Windows Messenger.

MS should, probably, take a close look at such requests though they are coming from a small percentage of ppl (most ppl, including me, are FOR adding as many features as possible, requiring as much memory as needed, and get added pleasure from seeing one more options screen). For you, though, MS should consider designing their software to allow "cleaning" every aspect of the interface, including option menus and buttons (nudge, winks, voiceclips). This has never been done before but this SHOULD be done, so you could toggle on/off both a feature and the MENTIONING of that feature from everywhere in the interface. That will give you what you want - a clean interface (and hopefully if designed properly also better performance). Clearly you could have some "Windows Messenger" look-alike presets to cripple down your interface to zero, then you can go and manually add selective features you actually wanna see.

Then again, I'm probably slightly dreaming out loud here. ;)

Heh, it's really nice to see some developers with spunk that don't mind betting on who gets the highest bid for their *free* software. :D

I'm saddened by the number of MS bashers below the neglected to read past the headline. At least *I* actually read the stories before I bash.

To those that knock MSN/WL messenger - we who build also use it everyday, super motivation to make it the best one out there. We're workin on it!

The beta is closed partly because we need slower rampup of usage thanks to some work we did on our back end, also - it's really a work-in-progress right now. It's not because we're trying to be exclusive. We'd prefer the world to see it.

As for ebay - we, the developers, are excited it's on ebay because it means people like our work enough to pay for it, but we ourselves are not charging for it, and like i said, we're looking forward to the public release.

And finally, Exquire - back off my typeface! Now you're getting personal. :)

You guys are doing a great job! If you are serious about customer feedback, read my comments on this page to see what you guys need to add on top of the sexy eye candy (which I understand is the highest priority to grab the heart of all those AIM kiddies hehehe).
- quick sign-up wizard for new users. better not using the browser... ppl hate filling out forms in browser but for some reason feel "OKAY" doing the same on an app screen... Just ask for email and password - that's it. If you need more info, get it later on once they're already using the client.
- store chat history on msn servers (maybe done already)
- allow full customization of interface
- buy already this Messenger Plus guy so he can get direct access to your code so a real-good(TM) plugin system can be rapidly created. It did good to Desktop Search, right?
- pay me to beta test your software ;) j/k

Keep doing the people good!

SCREW M$ and thier greedy ass's. This 1 rocks for me and it's FREE http://www.miranda-im.org

Contrary to what the title implies, MS isn't selling the invites. The beta testers are personally selling their individual invites.

"File transfers are beefed up through online drop boxes called "Sharing Folders" that actually store the data on a Microsoft server."

This will halt P2P via chat clients. Goodbye M$ messengers.

For some reason I don't think the Sharing Folder would allow you to distribute that great 4GB DVD (movie/MS?software) to a bunch of your friends. Bittorrent will remain a useful tool, most likely eventually integrated (by different name but same downloader=uploader concept) in Messenger 11.

u dont need to get an invite. u just need the msnp13 downgrader. thats wat i did. i downloaded it, then downloaded wlm. it works... as much as i need it 2.

dont fus over buying the invites... get the msnp13 downgrader.. it tricks the ms server 2 let u in....

give it a try... u need a link 2 it, email me at eliaszeidan [AT] hotmail {DOT} com

Salve,
come posso ricevere un invito a Windows Live Messenger?

Why should I pay for something totally evil? Gaim 2.0 beta 1 is free.

"Look down the list here and see how many mutants didn't even read the article!"
Looking down briefly, I can't see anyone saying MS did.

HEY 'TARDS! CAN YOU READ THIS?

Can't you read? MS isn't charging anything for this... people are selling their invites on ebay!

Look down the list here and see how many mutants didn't even read the article!

You don't actually expect people to read do you? Man oh man, what planet do you live on?

Hey Microsoft!
I got a better idea! Want me to use Windows Live Messenger? Then, why don't you pay me. Otherwise, I shall use something a hell of alot better then what you have to offer and probably with your track record a hell of alot more secure. It amazes me that with the track record microsoft has that they woul still demand payment of any kind to use their products. I would think that would have to start paying us. Microsoft, your products are a joke at best. and, I refuse to be the butt of your joke by paying for your dumb windows live messenger. Get a clue!

Hey jjarmak!
Microsoft are not demanding payment for Windows Live Messenger, users who have invites are selling them. Apparently they deem the beta good enough to try and make some money from it, which if I were Microsoft I'd be pretty chuffed about.
Did you actually read the article? Of course not; that would require more than two brain cells to rub together, when you only need one to bash Microsoft.
Get a clue!

why should I pay for someting like the new bloated MSN messenger. The same thing you already have in Skype or yahoo messenger without a pay. Not to mention the gigabyte mail box which M$ refused to give us.

Given that I refuse to move from version 6 since I view all versions past that point as filled with cutesy bloat suitable only for lemmings (winks? nudges?? get a life!!!), the whole concept of paying for this fodder is eminently laughable.

I'm equally sure a lot of suckers will dish out for it.

I personally don't see anything "so special" about this new version (haven't tried yet - wasn't invited hehehe) - but I'm obviously not the average, non-techy user of Messenger. My current solutions, similar to the benefits arriving in this new version:

1. SkypeOut to make outgoing calls from anywhere in the world at low rates, or of course Free World Dialup/SipPhone accounts for friends in other countries - I can call them up (on their softphone=PC, or hardware VoIP devices) from any regular phone - there are free access numbers in many locations www.notaduck.com .. And of course normally I'd use a cheap, high quality IDT calling card from uniontelecard.com to call certain locations (nobody can match 5.5c to Israel cell numbers, for example, using their Maayan card).

2. Sending offline messages. Messenger Plus has the feature to queue the messages so it gets sent next time the person is online (but sender has gotta be online too). Another solution is I've created shortcuts on the desktop of some friends to directly email me ("mailto:" link), TOGETHER with my SMS in CC - mycellnumber@teleflip.com. (I also usually add 4-5 of their friends' numbers to OE Address Book in format "SMS John Smith" - friends don't have to be PC users of course not to mention Messenger). Back to my "mailto" link.. That means my contacts don't need to open OE first (some ppl have a BIG problem with that due to antivirus warnings/prompts on new mail checkup etc). And this also means I get SMSed with the first few words of the message so I know to check my email for more info. Works for us!

3. For the Shared Folders feature I do one of two things: if the person is on broadband, using Net Drive I map a drive letter to a folder on an ftp account I open for them on my web hosting (I hardly reach 1/10th my quota or monthly transfer). They can give their link to whoever they want in emails they sent out etc. Everyone knows to copy-paste from Desktop to Drive Z. The other method is for more sophisticated users or dialup - basically they're working on some local "soon to be shared folder" then hitting a Synch button to synch it with their ftp folder.

I never did, and never will SMS anyone from a 12-button cellphone keypad.

So..basically..what I'm trying to say with too many words is that it's very cool for MS to include those features but I remain skeptical that their implementation would be what I would recommend (force upon?) MY PEOPLE to use. How are the calling rates? How much space on Shared Folder? How reliable are offline messages? How big can an offline message be? Etc.

I do realize at the same time, of course, that for the average user these features will be highly useful and much loved. Good for them!

Merry Christmas

"2. Sending offline messages. Messenger Plus has the feature to queue the messages so it gets sent next time the person is online (but sender has gotta be online too). Another solution is I've created shortcuts on the desktop of some friends to directly email me ("mailto:" link), TOGETHER with my SMS in CC - mycellnumber@teleflip.com. (I also usually add 4-5 of their friends' numbers to OE Address Book in format "SMS John Smith" - friends don't have to be PC users of course not to mention Messenger). Back to my "mailto" link.. That means my contacts don't need to open OE first (some ppl have a BIG problem with that due to antivirus warnings/prompts on new mail checkup etc). And this also means I get SMSed with the first few words of the message so I know to check my email for more info. Works for us!"
Give Yahoo Messenger a try and you'll see what they mean. I believe AIM and ICQ do it too, so MSN is just doing what MS does best. Copying.

"3. For the Shared Folders feature I do one of two things: if the person is on broadband, using Net Drive I map a drive letter to a folder on an ftp account I open for them on my web hosting (I hardly reach 1/10th my quota or monthly transfer). They can give their link to whoever they want in emails they sent out etc. Everyone knows to copy-paste from Desktop to Drive Z. The other method is for more sophisticated users or dialup - basically they're working on some local "soon to be shared folder" then hitting a Synch button to synch it with their ftp folder."
Give Megaupload a try... even better ^_^

"So..basically..what I'm trying to say with too many words is that it's very cool for MS to include those features but I remain skeptical that their implementation would be what I would recommend (force upon?) MY PEOPLE to use. How are the calling rates? How much space on Shared Folder? How reliable are offline messages? How big can an offline message be? Etc.

I do realize at the same time, of course, that for the average user these features will be highly useful and much loved. Good for them!"
Thing is. Why should I (or anyone) upgrade for features everyone else has had for years?

When (if?) MSN 7 stops working, then thats it for me till Gaim supports it. I'm not downloading MSN8, peroid. (I refuse to call it WIndows Live messgern... that name sucks)

Thanks for your comments, JacenSolo!

"Give Yahoo Messenger a try and you'll see what they mean. I believe AIM and ICQ do it too, so MSN is just doing what MS does best. Copying."

Been using ICQ for years. Been also using Trillian for a little while but forsake it specifically due to lack of right-justified text inputting and of course lack of all the latest goodies MSN Messenger keeps getting - oh and those fugly emoticons! ;) At this point I will force whomever needs to communicate with me to either be on MSNM or ICQ/AIM - or wait till 3Q06 when Y! and MSN interoperate. I've never met anyone who has only Jabber/GTalk/Skype installed for IM purposes so these are not considerations.

I LOVE MS for copying and bringing features/technology to the masses by forcefeeding. Features get "commonly-used" much faster than by allowing small bright competitors with tiny recognition to try to push the same exact thing. A "good" monopoly IS a Good Thing(TM). Note that polls show 70% of Americans have a favorable opinion on Microsoft.

"Give Megaupload a try... even better ^_^"

Not sure it's better to use weird clients, see ads, wait a bit before you can do anything (upload/download) and be restricted by someone else's rules. For me, using my own provider which I'm paying for regardless (for hosting 10+ domains for various projects) is better. Granted, for most users perhaps Megaupload is a great option, as well as perhaps sharing stuff using a Shared Bittorrent Folder if dealing with multi-GB content.

"When (if?) MSN 7 stops working, then thats it for me till Gaim supports it. I'm not downloading MSN8, peroid. (I refuse to call it WIndows Live messgern... that name sucks) "

You probably won't have to download it, as it will be built-into your next purchased PC, whenever that will be (two-three years)? ;-)

At that point most people will not even try other IM services, even if they are slightly better in some regards ("less annoying" or "faster" or "stabler" or whatever).

I think MS lost a lot of potential MSNM users due to their users not knowing they can use their existing email addresses with MSNM (using Passport). The hassle of signing up with Hotmail is enough to make many folks that I SAW just give up on the idea and go for ICQ. This is something MS needs to work on - a nice one screen quick wizard for using your existing email with Messenger Live.

AOL currently has 70 million users with AIM+ICQ. MSN has about 30. I'd gamble that in 5 years MSN reaches 100 million active users (including Y!'s then-accessible users) and AOL drops to 50 million.

Just remember what integrating IE into Win98 did to Netscape...

I'm selling one just to see if it will actually sell. Kind of funny but good for me. ;)

have to pay to try?!
ya okay... they really need that money. greedy jerks

Greedy jerks.

For those of you ignorant to this idea, it is some authorized testers selling invites, not Microsoft. Microsoft is simply advertising it. Personally, I am just fine with waiting for a public release.

Yeah....I know.

I'm saying that the people selling them are greedy. They should just be sharing with other people.

Greed sucks.

Way back in the day (Before Google was the Devil) when I used Gmail, I never sold any of my invites. I gave them all away. That's how it should be.

Sorry if I implied I thought you were ignorant. You're right about them being greedy.

Don't be surprised if certain "features" of the final are pay too.

Milk that cow, boys and girls!

I still give Gmail invites away to people that ask, even through I use Yahoo Mail, not Gmail ^_^

No big deal man. :)

Merry Christmas my fellow computer geek.

Microsoft has already pulled a stinky like that earlier with Messenger. A few years back when they had no user-base they offered free calls to USA. Then they limited it to 5min calls, then disabled it. At the time calls cost maybe 8c/min.

Hopefully MS does the HONEST thing this time and offers 60min free monthly calls to all the usual-cheap places (those costing them 1c/min or less).

They can certainly freaking afford it. And this time leave this up and running for a few years... On a massive scale it would probably cost them a quarter-dollar per user per month. With pseudo-google word ads they could actually make cash. Though MS is probably a few years away from listening in on your conversation and offering you to buy flowers when it hears you say "happy birthday" in a VoIP phone call.

Anyway, to avoid abuse they should allow this only for users who have charecteristics of "real" users... Been online for a certain secret amount of time, spoke to a few folks... Etc.

Invites to what??? Why???

idiocy

Meh... y'all paid for XP didn't ya? That's still in beta, isn't it? :P

HAHAHAHAHA

That's so funny! I've never heard that one before. Have you ever considered being a standup comedian? Seriously. Good stuff.

Keep 'em coming.

I didn't pay for XP! :P

Damn good point Tenoq, who in their right mind would pay for anything from Microsoft. It's all buggy junk. Their only just starting to discover technology Amiga had 10 years ago.

Microsoft = Garbage :P

...and the mental midgets (read: anti-MS rabble) rant on...

Their amusement factor never disappoints.

roj...you obviously have no intellect on past and present technologies other than what MS has to offer. It's idiots like you that go WOW when MS introduces something that was produced by others in the past and support it! Get a life mate :P

By your summation, I should not support a car company that decides to put airbags in their cars because someone else did it before them? What the hell? MS is a business, and to stay in business, you have to embrace the trends, and that's emoticons, VOIP, offline messaging, and secure file sharing. And to those who like to list alternative program(s) that allow you to do what's being implemented...all I can say to you is keep on using your 3+ extra programs to give you the operability of the new messenger.

I like Skype and I will continue to use it. But I am digging WLM and the naysayers are more than likely just mad that they didn't get on the first beta like us dedicated MS beta testers (and the Butterflies of course). Don't judge the product until it comes out. Sure its bloated, but what isn't anymore (and if I hear Gaim again I'll scream...sure its nice to be able to communicate between multiple networks, but in all seriousness, no one I consider friends uses AIM or AOL anymore, and with Yahoo! and WLM linking together in the near future, that covers everything I need...and I don't HAVE to be a member of BOTH services to converse with one another...nice).

On the contrary, I just don't make it my mission in life to indiscriminately and mindlessly bash everything MS does just because it's the trendy fanboi thing to do. That is predominantly the case when comments like that are tabled and is obvious in this instance.

If MS or anyone else does something stupid, I have no qualms whatsoever in slapping them for same.

In light of that, consider yourself slapped.

You are right, I will probably continue to use as many programs as are needed to achieve exactly what I want. Both of us agree that hardware is not an issue any more.

My next PC (replacing a Celeron 550 which has served me beautifully for the past 6 years) will be a dual-core 4400+ AMD CPU with 2GB of memory (now I got 256MB). I can afford to upgrade my PC on a yearly basis but saw no reason to since it did everything I needed it to do adequately!

In other words, if I don't get the max usage out of my new monster PC (by running as many cool proggies I can, stablely) I will simply feel like I've wasted my time and money on that new PC. So, yes I'll continue coming up with my own BETTER (less restrictive) solutions to stuff that'll get rudimentary support in Messenger.

Does not mean I won't use it or recommend others to use it... It just means my needs are not the average-person's needs. Heck, most people I know use webmail and don't keep a record of their old email. They see no reason to do it.

Non-techies will be perfectly satisfied with whatever you give them that even remotely fills their needs.

I listed mine!

And within 15 minutes I sold two out of four of them... wow

And 10 minutes later another guy bought the other two.

leah is cute

Yeah but she writes in olive Comic Sans
http://storage.msn.com/x...pPAWj_Nr7BPaO_eUCrPXzK3
So there's no way I'd hit it.

One word: losers.

You've gotta be crazy to pay to beta test anything, let alone an MS product...

Madness.
(BTW email me for an invite - imdesperate@pleasepleaseplease.com)

lol totally

Yeah you would be crazy to pay for beta invite.

Oh well I am glad I am in Windows Live Messenger beta.

I wonder how many village idiots lined up to buy their invite.

Man I just bought that domain just in case MS complies!

;-)

@hindimania

Can i get an windows live messenger beta invite from you
mail me at adonius4ever@hotmail.com

Merry christmas to you!

Yeah, MS has people PAYING to test their stuff, while by beta testing it the testers are DOING THEM A FAVOR!

Stupid microsuck guys.