Here, if anyone is ever wondering if there is a new version out or if your looking for the download link just go to www.msnmessenger7.net and see for yourself, any time there is a new version the links for the download get put onto that website, there is a link for every single version of msn messenger 7 there is on that site

here is the new link:

http://xerocool.innereye...s/MSN_Messenger_7.5.rar

the file is compressed using RAR compressor... you may need a RAR application to decompressed it.

-raymond

here is the new link:

http://xerocool.innereye...s/MSN_Messenger_7.5.rar

the file is compressed using RAR compressor... you may need a RAR application to decompressed it.

-raymond

Why can't Msn Messenger 7.5 be able to have custom emoticons in peoples msn names? All of my friends thought that would be the next thing out in the new msn. But either way I can't way till Msn 7.5 is not BETA anymore.

Keep up with the good work!

cooooooooool i need it now wen is itt out

thnx

i use it because all my friends do not becuase of how good it is

i have msn messenger 7.5
just email me if you want to try it
oks

mr3mars@msn.com

when is 7.5 being released 'cause it sounds great. let me know when you can, cya.

i want msn 7.5 to be finished testing and out for ebry1 2 use, coz i want to be able to use it because it sounds really gd.

Messenger is crap with a capital FULLSTOP.

Any product is going to have "bloat" according to some people and yet not have enough features to others. Get over it people... there is such a thing as alternative products.

MSN and every other company adds functionality at will... it is your choice whether to use it or not. Many of you are incorrect in assuming that features automatically consume more RAM. The entire concept of DLL's and modular code would be moot if they did. Your memory footprint is for the basic client functionality that you enable, and using OPTIONS to enable/disable components is supposed to alter that footprint. (Unless it's AIM 5.9.x which for some reason has always had a memory leak)

Anyway, it's funny to see people whine about animated backgrounds that they are not forced into using... it's just a choice, an option... use it if you like, don't if you don't... where's the problem?

MSN Messenger is lacking a very important feature: offline messages. In general, it is just a crappy tool compared to Yahoo Messenger or ICQ and people just use it because it is bundled with XP.

I guess MSN 7.5 hasn't this feature yet.

Repeat after me...

"MSN MESSENGER DOES NOT COME WITH WINDOWS XP!"

"WINDOWS MESSENGER DOES COME WITH WINDOWS XP!"

"THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PRODUCTS!"

When you, and others who make this claim, get this through your heads, then you can know that I do, indeed, agree with the Offline messages feature needing to be added.

You can also know that, I don't think MSN is crappy... certainly not when compared to Yahoo, AIM, or ICQ. All of the products have positive and negative aspects to them, and users should make decisions for themselves to use the products they like or else use Trillian (and similar) to connect to all of them.

MSN Messenger 7.5 dont have the feature "offline messaging"

Also, the one bundled with windows xp is Windows Messenger which is different from MSN Messenger.

Ive installed it, Im using, but dont like the beta testing, i think its unstable, Has crashed on me a number of occasions. Im not sure of this being to early for a beta program. But i have successfully installed the cracks and patches just to get rid of the annoying things i do hate about msn messenger like the ads and crap.

So let me get this straight... You don't like beta testing because it's "unstable"... and yet you both installed beta software on your computer (which resulted in crashing of a type you don't clarify) and you hang out on a web site called "BETA NEWS"?!?!

The only conclusions I can draw on your post is... Somehow, I am betting that your use of English in your post is somehow flawed and that your point is not stated clearly, otherwise I would be led to believe you wasting your own time being here when you dislike betas.

(Why people install and use products they know they don't like only to complain and justify their dislike is beyond me)

my goat has good bloat too........

Uhhh...I'm going to discard the comment directly below mine into the trash, but respond to it nonetheless.

Bloat has two definitions in computer programs:
A) Extra features that are useless, unrequired, or unwanted(and use up system resources).
B) Horribly coded or inefficient features(ie, IE is bloat, since FF can do the same with about 50% the memory usage).

Anything microsoft designs soon gets filled with bloat to make it more user-friendly. There's nothing wrong with bloat, as most people are on 2ghz+ processors now adays, so not many care if something starts in 0.5seconds or 8 seconds, but on a 400mhz you'll notice when after installing IE 6.0, your boot time goes up 15 seconds, or when "Acrobat Reader 7.0" takes 147seconds to start up.

Btw, to anyone like me that had a problem with Acrobat Reader, google "Foxit Reader". It starts up in like 1/15th the time.(About 8-10 seconds on that 400mhz instead of 147 seconds)

Edit: Using a webmessenger(inside a webpage right?) would be equivalent to using bloat. They have high memory requirements usually, are slow, and can use a lot of the processor. Also, that would require starting up your browser, which is also using memory.

cool..I love all the new stuff..what do u haters call..bloat? lmfao@ u. I dont like "just a messenger" for that use webmessegers ;)keep bringing the bloat ..many of us LOVE IT!
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I have an old amd athlon 1200mhz lol yes I use firefox and I am smart enough to disable any useless services ..i must say my old pc runs flawless,fast..in fact I dont care to upgrade yet ;)

"animated conversation window backgrounds, along with interface tweaks including a redesigned sign-on screen and renamed buttons."

Just what I always wanted in a messenger. Why can't they just make it with a unclutter, unbloated, adless interfance like Gaim has. Just a messenger, that's all I ask for not a piece of bloatware with all this crap that I never use.

Windows Messenger?

if it connected to more than just MSN that would be fine.

I used to like MSN, and they are coming out with great new features. Just bloat though. I know of a better free adless program for ech new function they have.

plus the biggest thing... I have friends on all clients!! so, for all of you that use MSN mess. this is getting really good. for the rest of us... see you miranda IM/Gaim or Qnext(i know but it's java!!)

I'm glad you're making a choice to support and use products that suit your needs! :) Good for you, and I wish more would do the same.

I use Trillian to connect to AIM and a backup MSN account, and MSN for my primary AIM account. Between the two, I am able to do pretty much anything I want with minimal effort.

Hi i am an actual beta tester.I really see no differrence in 7.0 to 7.5 besides the voice clip.I hope furture builds will be better.

Whats this dude saying? schweitzer this is an english board.

bitte zum testen frei geben

Translation: "please release for public testing"

You guys that just whine about stuff, offering nothing really substantive, why do you even bother? Your comments are not productive, no one thinks you are intelligent for it, you just come out looking like immature, irrational adults. If you do not like how a product is going, why not put a list together of something useful and email it - afterall, technology is customer driven! :)

"afterall, technology is customer driven!"

Given the DRM filth that is making its way into Longhorn I do believe those words will choke you.

You want a list?

Fine:

MSN 6.2 and the ability to permanently turn of those damnable persistantly nagging upgrade exhortations.

That's all I want - nothing more. I can turn off the adware filth cleanly with Messenger Plus!, no hacks required.

MSGR plus is a hack u moron

You're a little slow, junior. MSGRPlus just blocks unwanted content.

And unfortunately it doesn't work with MSN 7.

Also, all the cutesy fluff may appeal to certain personality types (I use the term loosely) but I personally prefer a leaner client.

That's why I ocntinue to stick with 6.2.

I also am not stupid enough to pay for webcam functionality as is required with Trillian when i can get it for free with MSN 6.2.

Your mileage (and intelligence) may vary.

Messenger Plus! is not a hack... it is a plug-in built by a 3rd-party developer (Patchou) based on documented API's released by Microsoft/MSN. There is no explicit or inappropriate hacking involved.

It's a majority of "patches" from Mess.be (and similar sites) that are the hacks, because they actually modify the msnmsgr.exe (and related) file.

If you're going to call someone a moron, at least TRY to make sure you're right.

Of course MSGPlus works with Messenger 7, it's done so for months now.
And, if you don't like the features it blocks or not you can get plugins for Plus that take care of them as well.
Best of all it runs great, and my laptop is not that new.

I usually use Trillian anyway but in general I do like MSN's look and capabilities. The ads don't matter so much since I don't keep the contact list open. However it seems like they just updated to 7.0 . I know IM is competitive, but its hard to make use of the all the features since much of it costs money to really make use of it. I can't see most people spending money this way.

Yah Um Ill stick with AIM Ad hack no thanks msn never like your abilities

More junk!

I'm perfectly fine with Miranda IM, thanks you MSN but I'll stick.

Right on!

What the world needs now is the Miranda Foundation and a getmiranda.com marketing site. :)

They really should fix the voice chat problem behind a router or firewall, rather than getting it bloated with gimmicks.

Voice chats (and file transfers) require direct connections to each computer in order to function properly.

On the other hand, firewalls, by definition, prevent direct connections to protect security.

Therefore, your wish is not viable.

You do, however, have solutions to the problem! :) You can open a small hole in your firewall that resolves the issue. By allowing the file/voice TCP/UDP ports in your firewall, your functionality is resolved. Then, while MSN Messenger is running, you can initiate the connections without trouble and just exit MSN to close the connections and the hole without any effort or reconfiguration. Check with your firewall vendor for documentation, and then make sure you actually read it.

I really don't care for the ads that msn has in 7.0 either. I takes double the time to connect with users because of all the ads that need to be shown befere the connection can be made. I don't see myself going to 7.5 any time soon, unless they force you to download it to use it, which would not surprise me.

So, really, the problem here is with the advertisements that MSN uses to pay for the Logitech webcam/audio chats that they license for higher-quality video/audio?

I don't have a point, I'm just identifying your complaint as one against Logitech's expensive license rather than something that is benefitting MSN... the actual MSN ads are all easily avoided by closing the main contact window when not in use and by ignoring the single-line of unobtrusive text.

7.0 was a steaming pile of ad-ridden bloated crap with utterly useless fluff features that render it equivalent to the much maligned ICQ.

Given that, why the hell would I be interested in 7.5?

Agreed, and I am surprised no one has mentioned MSN Messengers uncanny ability to sign you in and out more than 5 times in 10 minutes.

The service is nice....But the service is terrible.

("It's likely Microsoft will offer more backgrounds that can be purchased for a small fee.") - What a JOKE, would you feed a bear that weighs in at 2 or 300 billion pounds ;)

I have not had the problem with being signed in or out that rapidly except when my own ISP connection is unstable...... perhaps some further troubleshooting is required before accurate blame can be placed on the service. :)

In regards to backgrounds... you do know that you can use ANY background image you want, not just "sponsored" ones, right? I've found at least millions of free backgrounds through Google searches.

Lastly, I would not feed a bear of any size, and I'll just be thankful that a bear of 2-300 BILLION pounds does not exist. :)

I feel sorry for the suckers who will actually pay for a background or display pic, whats the point, the default is good enough isnt it? When i use messenger i only have convo windows open for a few seconds then i close it, i dont even pay attention to it.

Bear of 2-300 billion ponds? .... wtf.?.... oh ok i get it, my bad.