i heard the 3rd service pack was to include the activation crap that office and visual studio has,. any truth to this?

Seeing where as nobody knows what will be in it, I'd say NO.

Great :) soon i will have another Service pack to install. I just love installing Service packs and hotfixes. Thank got Microsoft is such a great company they bring out hotfixes so often. OpenBSD really has a lot to learn from Microsoft in this respect. Why cant they come out with fixes and service packs? I just hate having an insecure OpenBSD box becasue of lacking service packs!

yes i agree. recompiling my kernel every day is much more fun.

Wow.. i havent even thought about that.. I remember now... i don't really care about system uptime.. I think i will start to recomplile my OpenBSD kernel every day from now on. Thanks for the great idea.

yea, no problem man

Personally I love how memory usage increases substantially and overall system responsiveness and performance goes down more and more with each service pack I install. So basically they put out a half assed product to begin with and then follow it up with some hack-assed patches and "fixes". I guess I'll just have to pay for the next new version of windows when it comes out. Yeah. Right. :-/

Compiling the kernel?

I'll do that when I remember how to do it.. it was four years ago the last time I needed to do it ;)

Seriously: compiling the kernel is easier than installing a M$ service pack, it don't make my system unusable and I can change back to the old kernel just entering the name of the old kernel in the boot prompt(try to uninstall a M$ servicepack after it screwup completely your system...)
And at least I know what I put in my kernel and don't add ten bugs for each fixed one...
And if you still think that it's difficult to compile the kernel, this is what you have to do:
config MYKERNEL && cd ../compile/MYKERNEL
make depend && make

If that is too much for you better buy a new mac with MacOS X, a great unix much easier to use than windows ;)

Best regards

Uriel

And how is that easier than hitting setup.exe?

And if you need to uninstall it, you simply go to add/remove programs.

i was just about to write that. that is definately NOT easier than double clicking your mouse button on setup.exe!

although, win2000 sp2 did screw my computer up. after i installed it, my computer did nothing when i started it but show windows background. no taskbar or icons. i'm not saying microsoft is perfect which they obviously are not!

but you do have to take into account that there ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO AREN'T EXPERTS IN COMPUTERS! i hate when people reason things like, if you can't figure this out, then you shouldn't be using a computer. guess what, microsoft designs software more for the public instead of for computer people like us. no matter how easy you think it is to recompile a kernel, my uncle bob and cousin george are never going to want to do it, and they really shouldn't have to learn! they should be able to click on a file and not worry about anything.

I agree. When developing software, we should take the public into consideration... and by public, i mean everyone who use a computer. You just can't expect every user to be computer experts... i.e. power users... they are merely end users with minimal technical knowledge and wants to avoid complexity wherever possible... so developers so make things easy for them...

In any case, for ANY user, we should be able to spend more time USING our computer (and be productive...:)) instead of spending most of our time performing maintenance or fixing them!!!

emmm.. i mean ... "so developers should make things easy for them..."
:P

the easier things become the more stupid people become.

People no longer wish to think.

The new "intergration" service packs look interesting as per the sign-up page. Looks to be a great addition to a great OS, Windows 2000.

"intergration" SP?

i donno if any of u guys had problems with the win2k SPs. i had problems. no matter wich one i install my ACPI dies. i can no longer put my hard drives to sleep, standby the system or go into hybernate. it's stupid. the SPs may have fixed a wide variety of problems but created another one for me.
i tried it on multiple systems and it happens every time. i tried the SP1 and SP2 on a AMD K6/550 with 256 RAM and a DFI motherboard. i tried on a pentium2-350mhz with a amptron motherboard and 256 ram again, i tried on a asus motherboard with athlon 850 and 950 and 1300 mhz with 256 ram on all systems... same problems... i can;t go to hybernate or standby anymore... every time i install it, the installation of ANY SP works fine with no problems at all. then if i try to standby or hybernate, i get a dialog box saying that drivers for the AT/PS2 101 Key keyboard drivers are not letting the computer go into standby or hybernate. i tried updating drivers both for motherboard and keyboard, all related to PS2/AT. and nothing... i changed about 3 keyboards... same thing.... changed mouse to SERIAL form PS2... same thing..... i am tired.... when's micros***...soft...whatever gonna fix this? has any of u had problems with this? please email me at my username on betanews on hotmail. thanx in advance.

This may help clear things up:

http://support.microsoft.../articles/Q257/1/99.ASP

On what/where the fixed buglist is?

I requested this information from Microsoft early Monday morning. It should not be much longer.

regards,

Dave
BetaNews

Any reply yet?

does anyone know when IE 6.0 is going to be released? i was told that last week sometime it was supposed to go gold...

When I filled out the survey- my place of residence, Minnesota, was conspicously missing from the list of states... hmm?

-Ryan

I guess they ceceeded (sp?) from the union haha

It's 'succeed' not 'conceed'
To conceed is to quit. :)

My turn :-)

Actually, it's secede, as to withdraw, as in secede from the Union.

Suceed is, well, you know . . .

correct! show him what he's won!

Minnesota?

I think I'd pass. :-)

Another beta id and password?

for me doesn't work

Minisota is still in beta :P

For me it doesn't work either. Anyone know why?

Same today. The Beta ID and password provided are not valid anymore.