Well, Betanews has done it again!

Let's see... IE6 leaked "last week". That's what... the first of February? Funny that it was all over Newsgroups, the Web, and IRC before Christmas.

MS is upset and investigating? Funny that they haven't done anything about the several sites that pop up on a quick Altavista search, nevermind the sites listed IN THIS THREAD ON BETANEWS.

Also, the latest IE6 build "leaked" is 2411, not 2403.

*sigh* I wish for once Betanews could get something right.

- Gurm

Well, how about a short review of IE6 since we are here? Someone is b****ing about a beta being released and the competition seeing the new features ahead of time. First of all, unless you consider about 6000 links to Microsoft places a new feature, then there isn't much to talk about. The Sidebar does seem to include an integrated media player, but who cares. Someone else thought the IE had a small memory footprint. Makes me wonder if they can type "Start--Run--taskmgr" and then look at it. Hmm, after 3 pages of browsing 15 megs of memory is a small print? And wow, this browser is still over two years behind when it comes to W3C compliance. Standards that had final approval in 1998 still don't work. Don't even try to use XML with CSS2 and CSS3. (it won't work right) Don't get me all wrong here, the beta seems to be a much better, more stable, and faster browser than 5.01 and especially the worthless 5.5. (at least on the 8 different machines I have seen it on) Could be a good thing if MS could ever learn that they DON'T make the web standards. This browser can be a real winner if they can figure out in the next 25 years to support HTML 4 strict, Ecmascript, (the standardized Javascript) CSS1, CSS2, CSS3, XML, and DOM1. (gosh a bunch of free developers were able to do that...its called Gecko and before you go off saying how buggy NS is, then try Opera which runs on the Gecko core as well) Finally, the expected response here is that this is only a beta and they will put in more "features" in later builds. That may be, but seems kind of late to be messing with the browser core that they are building around. My only request is that they can possible include at least another 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 links to MSN, MS messenger, MS website...etc etc. That will make it a far better browser. Finally, lets all remember something. MS has some talented employees, but the brain power of the rest of the world FAR EXCEEDS the brain power of their corp. Anything that can be done, can be undone. New copy protect scheme? Heh, it will get some of the dummies, not gonna stop smart people. (oh, and the Beta builds of Whistler tried some of those...took a couple of days to hack didn't it?) Or how about the forced registration of office 2000? That didn't last long did it? Here is a concept, some people will never pay for stuff. Most will if the price is right. New windows? How about $29? I'd pay that.

Hey you guys know all that tracking software companies come out with??? Well with the new implemenation of Whistler the miraculous Microsoft has made it virtually impossible for that type of software to work. Why? because they won't to sell the idea of security from companies to their users. So this mean microsoft is helping you hackers out slightly.

IE7 is just documentation... Let's all take a big guess how I would know this... Oh wait let me spell it out... I W-O-R-K H-E-R-E !!!

It's official, compdoc have been found having a love affair with Windows 85. compdocs 80086 machine was used to launch the software with compdoc was found sticking his hard disk into the computer. When compdoc pulled it out, it came out floppy! Then compdoc woke up and said to himself, I don't even have a willy!

This "tool" that microsoft has. What a joke.

Let's see, it scans chat,newsgroups AND websites for warez.

Right, I doubt it.

They would have to dedicate like 50 machines to do this, and
I doubt it would be clever enough to input dcc triggers.

Laugh. Yes, the warez world is trembling.

Idiot.

If you want a copy of IE 6 Beta, I can help you out. Email me @ webmaster@nagetech.com and I'll tell you how :-)

www.nagetech.com

I've got a kick out of reading all this... LOL I don't understand why this guy is freaking out over the IE6. First off... Remember IE is FREE you can download it off the Internet all day long... as you will with IE6 So tell me how MS is loosing money???

Second. MS loves Warez.. Always has! MS Lets this stuff get out to the warez groups.. This is why they put "Time Bombs" in them as they did in Windows 2000, Then everyone post to the news groups and this is where MS scans what's going on. This allows them to repair and fix the bugs within the Beta's. Do you really think that they can build a software package and just beta test it within the beta testers and in MS that will test "Every" hardware configuration? NOT!! MS Knows releasing the beta to the warez groups that the software will be tested under HEAVY usage with almost every Hardware Configuration.

Third. Yes… It’s illegal to own none licensed software and MS doesn’t loose as much money as you think. Do you like a Large Company is going to go out onto the internet and download a illegal copy of MS software then install it on a couple hundred PC’s.. NOT! They are not that stupid! The person that’s going to “run” the illegal software is going to be “Mostly” a single users playing around at home.

Exactly. Just try telling that to our old friend CompDoc :-).

Actually, you're wrong. Microsoft loses the most money from small businesses who purchase one copy of Microsoft prouct, be it Office, Windows or whatever, and install it to multiple machines. This is where the new anti-pirate protection scheme is going to be most felt. I doubt it will affect as many home users as the whiners on the internet would have you believe.

However, Microsoft loses public confidence and could possibly lose money from R&D by having people pirate early beta copies of a product. If average consumers, or even media outlets (don't want to call them news sources since news and the internet don't go hand in hand) start reporting bugs and incomplete features in beta products it reflects on the company. WHile this won't cost MS money for IE, it could cause issues with consumer confidence in other products; "If they can't get a web browser to work right, how can I expect them to get an office suite or OS to work right?"

Also, competitors could get a leg up in their competition by having early betas released. They implement the features sooner than expected in their product cycle and MS IE loses any competitive advantage it has over another browser.

While MS doesn't make any money from most end users, they do license IE to OEMs and ISPs to make personalized versions of the product available to their customers. This IS big money and MS stands to lose quite a bit here if the above entioned scenarios happen.

who cares if this company is loosing money ? they have allready made so much money .they could live like god in france for the next hundred years during releasing their software for free.
so who really cares ?

I know this has nothing to do with the topic, but thought this would be the best place to get an answer (hold your flames please). But i need come virus help

Not sure what virus it was (it might not have been one), but first it restarted my computer, then when i tried to load (tried..didn't work though) window (and dont flame my windows either) i found that all my main directories had been deleted (i.e. Program files,windows, My Document, Downloads, even backup), and it had a warning at the choose screen.

WARNING: windows has detected aregistration/configuration error. Choose, Command prompt only (cant though,windows directory gone), and run SCANREG.

It might not have been a virus, but it looks like to much of a co-incidence to me. Afterall, it left my minor directories in place (i.e. Misc., ...etc). Any help?

Thanks in Advance

p.s. If its any help, i haven't checked my mail on that computer in ages, and i was connected to the net

sounds like a virus to me... but im not sure how to help ya! sorry bro

it sounds like a virus that my father had a while ago, called "chode" The best thing to do is to back up what you want to save anf format the drive.

sounds like u got a trojan buddy. It's probably not what, but who deleted all of your files/ folders.
U need to get yourself a trojan cleaner to scan your computer.
Most widely used is "the cleaner"

i just download ie 7alpha, come and get it at www.ms.conxion.com/ie7project/alpha 1.0/download/

enjoy and wait till end of december for the beta 7.0

Hey..i tired that link of yours and it doesnt work :-(...could you please get back to me and tell me what the right link is :-)

webmaster@nagetech.com

haha!
dumba**....

I can.

For every IE release there has been before, there was a PUBLIC beta, and everyone could enjoy the fun and help out with the testing. I'm not sure why, but Microsoft seems to be holding back too much on their betas. Why not make this one public like all the others? After all, IE is free, isn't it?

There is going to be a public beta. They have to get it somewhat stable before it is ready for public testing.

I'm really suprised of the amount of BS that everyone is talking. Does anybody actaully remember what warez is. I will tell you one thing it wasn't pirating apps. Any one can do that. Warez was hacking tools, now everyone and their mom has a "warez" site. And what kind of moron post links on a site that they know someone will report you on. And www.nagtech.com you were correct to take off ie6, but MS surely could care less since there has already been new changes which you can find in their client install and on the new build of whistler. Realize that all of these builds are early beta and these things will change quickly. Like luna which was first implmented in 2419 has been revamped once again and why can't I find it on those warez sites, because security has beefed up. If you would like to prove me wrong about this post a comment... the newest build is 2435 and I'm one of the few people that have it.

want a cookie?

LOL it was hardly worth chasing 2416 to Brazil to get the final files but I guess it was worth it in a way just to run it up on a test machine to see how it was going. Bottom line keep improving it. Make it what it should be and lose the Golds Gym subscription which is a must. we might buy it when it comes out providing it is to own and not rent. I can't deal with anything that expires . Tell MS Don't even go there unless they have alot of capital because even threatening to discontinue support for win2kprof
will not help them to boost sales on a subscription basis. Don't get me wrong. I am microsoft all the way and very pleased with windows 2000. I don't know about the others but install done right = Never Crashes. I found out long ago that most crashes occur when windows finds something it doesn't like or cannot deal with in hardware or software. I have had a few error files generated hehe normal stuff dealing with faulty or foreign programming not playing well with windows but in all about 80% of the time all was easily remedied and the other 20% were basically software which was as ZDNET puts it "rough around the edges" hehe i.e. needed work
I may not ever afford a Universal Subscription to MSDN but possibly
I might find a second job in the civil service area that has one that I may partake in. Life is such but I have plenty right now to keep me busy learning until I catch that bus. Hopefully Win2k will not be junked through all of this. I think it could stand at least 6 service packs lol! Just my 2 cents Thanks
P.S.After all the economy isn't that great and the smart people aren't going to jump for this money money money money concept forever.
Big dog little dog it makes no difference when you run out of gravy train.

is this more amazing. i have ie7.0alpha
weep and cry baby!!!

Can you write the real working site(s) to download ie7.0 alpha. Or share your download link with this file(s).

Thanx.

What is actually amazing is you can get the latest beta of whistler/XP on warez sites, FTP sites to be more precise (ie, www.*x*matrix.com has posters of it). What you may not get with it is the CD Key to install. But you can get it:)

Hey dumba** I work here and have a friend on the trident/ie team... No IE7! Stop trying to act like you know something. Besides IE7 hasn't started dev it's only documentation right now!

my msg got deleted!
oh well. :P

*proud* long live warez

Thanks for the link Alister!

They've fixed all the issues I had with IE 5.5 (e.g windows locking up until DNS had resolved). There are a few other bugs, bit they're obvious and I'm sure will be fixed before release.

It hadn't actually occurred to me that it would change Windows Explorer as well (i.e. local file browsing). It'll take some getting used to, but on the whole I'd say it's a worthwhile upgrade.

i just hope that the IE guys stay with what makes their browser so good - small memory footprint, minimalist features, customizable toolbar. dont get too feature happy with these stupid toolbars and such, or at least make them removable.

I haven't been on my computer for a while now, let alone looked at betanews. How sad I was when I saw all those posts. Compdaq claiming he is so intelligent, but at the same time calling other people names you here on an elementary school playground. People saying go back and troll /., while at the same time trolling betanews. It's funny how people are such hipacrits. The only people who broke the law were the beta testers who handed it out. The software is free. As far as I know it will only be released on the next version of Windows, and the beta will only install on Win2k. So I really really don't think microsoft lost even .01 cent on this. Compdaq, did you loose your job due to warezing one time? Or was your mom shot in the face by a warez kiddy or something? Why do you hate the warez scene so much? Warez are like drugs, but a lot more widely used. I think everyone I regularly talk to on the internet (I'm not a warez kiddy, at all) has either used a crack or downloads warez. I use linux regularly, but even I have to download some linux warez every once in a while. (OSS)
Warez are a fact of life, something that will always exist, the same as ignorant people like compdaq are a fact of life, and will always exist.

and that makes warez ok, or legal how? just because the majority of people USE warez instead of going and supporting the company that put these products out, doesnt make it ok. simply accepting the fact and saying 'thats the way it is, deal with it' is fairly short sighted. i know MS will never be able to completely stop pirated software, but hopefully the means they are planning on using in their upcoming releases will drive many people to actually purchase XP instead of just downloading it from some irc warez channel.

No, you have to have a license to use IE beta (any MS beta)... for instance, with Whistler beta, we have 5 licenes, unless otherwise told, meaning, you can install it on up to 5 computers.

If you are using IE, and you are not a beta tester, then you have 0 licenses, meaning, it's illegal.

Who really cares!!!

Ok, my biggest issue is that when you buy software, you aren't buying it, you are buying a license to use it. Ok, fine. I can accept that. What I cannot accept is that you are essentially forced to upgrade your OS eventually as you upgrade hardware (and subsequently software too). The difference is though, the physicality and the fact you OWN the hardware. Since I am paying a LICENSING FEE to use Windows, why is it that I have to keep renewing this license by buying new versions? Win 98SE was basically a patch job of Win98. WinME was a patch job of Win98SE. And WHY OH WHY did I have to pay $10 for that DOS 6.1 step-up disk all those years ago a couplr short weeks after picking up DOS 6.0??

its only explorer 6.0 I want 10.0 when is that coming..

I will be using a legitimate and professional site such as Active Windows after today. There are too many pirates, theives, ignorant fools IE:(Linux Users), etc. to waste my time here anymore. You people are a pathetic waste of space and breathe too much air that should be reserved for decent human beings and witheld from those like you.

Cool, now let me get back to uploading Visual Studio to Geocities.

THAT'S GREAT!!!!

YOU ARE LEAVING!!!! YEAH!!!!!

And don't come back. We won't miss you.

Agreed.

What is it like to have a I.Q. score lower than your shoe size?

There is nothing you can do about it. The War on Warez is just as pathetic as the war on drugs. When will people relize there will always be an underground.

First off, if you are gonna be self-righteous, be mature about it. It is Linux. Second of all, Windows 9x still uses 20 year old code too in the DOS portion of it. You do not score any merit with your attempted intimidation and relentless immature insults. If you want people to heed what you say and maybe, just maybe actually respect you (I do respect many people...even though I do not like the people they are) then grow up. Show some tact.

bravo! it seems as if every time there's a post on this site about new MS software, the first post is a link to a warez site for download, or 400 people asking for a link to an FTP. it makes me think twice before even reading the posts now...at least someone else feels the same way i do. way to go.

Thanks xwtx,
At least there are a few decent people here still

Hey Compud***,

You still did not get that Geocities site shut down. I guess that you reporting them to RU Legit did not do any good, becauser MS does not care about someone posting free software for download.
Check the link it is still active:
http://www.geocities.com/u88zu766/

The post that reads "Posted by NXTwoThou on February 8th, 2001 at 8:30AM ET" tells part of the story. The other part is that it is ILLEGAL to use Beta Software UNLESS you are an AUTHORIZED Beta Tester that has read, agreed with and signed a NDA. There are NO EXCEPTIONS at all period. Warez also costs MILLIONS of dollars in lost revenue to companies and that translates into lost jobs. If any of these a******s lost a job as a result of piracy, they wouldn't be so much for warez as they are. I lose business to a******s that buy 1 CD and load it on to hundereds of computers when the licence only allows 1 (ONE).This illegal practice is called "Hard Disk Loading Piracy"

Exactly how is Microsoft losing money by a leaked beta?

I should clarify and say, a leaked beta of a free browser.

the price of the software has nothing todo with it. if your competitors can see your new features while you're still working on them then they can work on them at the same time, if they don't see your features until you have released your software then you have a big advantage over them.. they can still 'borrow' your features when you release the software but they will have to take the time to implement them whereas you are already complete.. it's all about business and competition.

You think MS's competitors aren't in the beta program? Get real!

IE 6 IS NOT FREEWARE until it is released to the public AFTER the Beta Test is OVER you stupid idiot. Until then, it is ILLEGAL to use unless you are an AUTHORIZED Beta Tester. Why is Microsofts NDA so difficult for you idiots to understand?

i know what nda's are...and im not the one who signed one for MS...it was the beta tester.....so lay off...i know my way around the computing business

There is also such things as licenses... and yes, the testers have a license to use the software.... warezers, however, do not... meaning, it's illegal.

Compdoc... my word... Your lack of intelligence (not to mentin lack of employment,) really astounds me. Do you realize that you have wasted your entire day today posting ridiculous comments about how you are so proud of sleeping with Microsoft? Pathetic...

But hey, if it makes you feel big...

I find it amusing a few of you here have this idea that Internet Explorer is warez. In case your not aware of it, IE is free.

Compdoc, your attitude is what is ticking people off, you act like you are so holy and mighty. Perhaps you need to look in the mirror?

While I might not care for linux myself. Your attitude is a perfect example of what fuels people to want to run Linux, which is free, and trash Microsoft.

Actually, last I heard (which was a while ago) is that MS was only going to release IE6 with Whistler; not as a seperate download. So... as far as it being free, I'm not sure they would consider it free.

But like I said, that's older information so don't hold me to it.

YES, until Microsoft releases it for public use, IT IS WAREZ and illegal to own and operate except for the beta testers that Microsoft has allowed rights to. It's amazing that you are so ignorant to the term NDA which means: NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. That means that beta tester cannot even TALK about the software to those outside of the Beta Test Group LET ALONE RELEASE IT FOR DOWNLOAD. I guess ignorance is truly bliss to most of you retards.

Actually, what you heard was Mary Joe Folidiot's stupid self spouting off incorrect information again.

Second, if you are not legally using a piece of software (ie, you do not have a license w/ MS to use it), then it is warez.

It's amazing that you think Microsoft is somehow hurting by people trying a new version of their web browser.

There is absolutely no comparison between "pirating" a free web browser, and pirating, say, Windows. Getting an advance copy of free software does not harm Microsoft in any way.

no one likes you, why cant you go away? you are anoying.

What makes you so sure that Microsoft even give a damn about that guy you reported? You need to take an econmics class - the cost of bring the site down, and possible seeking action against the guy who runs it, would cost $1000's. Microsoft wouldn't bother. At most they'd send a 'cease and decist' order to his ISP, but many ISP's now ignore these. Microsoft only go after the big guys, and business users. Business's cost Microsoft Millions of $$$ each year. This guy costs them nothing. Noone who finds this guys site was ever going to be a paying customer for that product anyway, and Microsoft know it (that is why they have only ever prosecuted the larger sites - 'Godabuzz' anyone?).

Next time, do a bit of research before posting this crap. I know that you linux users who escape from SlashDot every once in a while need to start these kinds of arguments for enjoyment (seeing as most of you only ever leave your bedrooms to go to school anyway). A quick search through Microsoft's own site will, give you official Microsoft Press Pass documents stating that Microsoft and the BSA only go after large internet sites/portals and Business users (or pirate CD burners). They themselves admit that the cost of prosocuting everyone who has dealt (or is dealing) with illegally obtained software would cost them more per week than they make in a year - and that is serious money.

They have taken ALL of the illegal E-Bay auctions down that I have reported and also slammed computer show dealers selling illegal software that I have reported. You can believe what you want retard but I speak the TRUTH.

Nobody's going to be selling IE 6, so your argument is totally void.

compudoc, shutup. for the love of god man, shutup.

okay, i 100% admit that warez is illegal and and i don't want to get into the posting of links (although in compdoc's ranting he seems to have posted links to that nagtech site so he seems to be acting like a hypocrite) but i just want to say that if it weren't for the illegal distribution of MS software, they would have never gotten so big and taken such a large portion of the market. it's not something they are proud about, but i thought that somewhere i read that for every 1 MS product bought, 4 pirated copies were made. so they get really mad at that, but then when you take a look at market share, they've got a huge chunk, but only 20% of that was actually bought. so final point: warez is illegal, but it helped MS none-the-less.

And also, Microsoft DOES care about their customers and does a very good job at supporting their products. Go back and play with your little toy c64 if you don't like Windows. Or maybe your "new" 386 wont handle a REAL OS is why you are so bitter against Microsoft?

Your right they really do care, considering they won't talk to anyone without a credit card #

But i guess us pirates can just use one of our credit card generators for them...

Yeah, you're right. The Microsoft crowd is MUCH bigger than YOURS however !! LOL

And make me shut up douche

I told you. It's not a threat, it was a piece of advice. And don't assume I'm part of any crowd other than the one laughing at what you keep posting.

Neither Microsoft OR the FBI are laughing at posting of illegal software. I post on a level that LinSux 5th graders can understand.

I'm not going to be watching anybody, BUT this WILL : http://microsoft.com/pre...0/aug00/08-01piracy.asp

Can't hide from the LONG arm of the law. By the way, the FBI works VERY closely with Microsoft in shutting down fools such as those who think warez is cool and even fines and jails many of their stupid asses.

Big Brother is watching those who have reason to worry about being watched. LOL

Warez dealers will have 0% peace as long as I am around

i would like to know what gave you the idea that i ran a warez site..just cause my crew and i decided to post iE6....dont make us warez..warez is when you have a website with s*** loads of apps....i had one...now its off..so would you leave the rest of us in peace..just cause you dont ahve alife..dont mean you gotta suck us down with u

If anyone thinks they can stop the disro. of warez, they must be stupider than I thought. Compdoc, you can do all the reporting you want but the fact of the matter is you can't stop every single computer. I mean look at what kind of appz that are out there that indirectly support warez, like: mIRC, napster, bearshare, gnutella, and many more. Now look, you reporting anything is useless cause another person will just take over where others have left off. It's the warez "cycle" and me being an ex-warezer, not even sure that's a proper word, have seen what does go on and how easily things are picked up after a "group" or "channel" has been stopped. Warez people would know what I'm talking about :) Anyways, my message to you use is not to only stop your "reporting" cause it's a waste of your time, but stop the b****ing, ok? Well bye bye little man

You think Microsoft would include Real.com button on their IE 6? What really happen is the person who had the screenshots had Real Player 8 installed and selected add IE button, which probably works in IE 5 and IE 6 since not much is new with IE 6. I find it funny how people would think Microsoft would add Real to their toolbar as a default. Considering Microsoft wants to stomp Real into the ground. Why is it in Windows ME you can't uninstall Windows Media Player? It's because they want Windows Media Player to be your default music player/jukebox/streaming media player.

I got it a long time ago like about mid january. Its been around for a while. I just wish i could get an newer build.

Read about the tool that will crush your precious little warez sites here : http://microsoft.com/pre...0/aug00/08-01piracy.asp

Do you know what tact is? i think not. do you think that your b****ing will stop anything? honistly.

tack - "the ability to tell someone to go to hell in souch way that they will ask for directions."

use it

Your boasting of obtaining illegal software is very intelligent. Maybe I should call Microsoft and have them subpeona E-Front for your real names so you can get slapped with an intellectual property theft lawsuit? Now THAT would be funny!! You idiots need to get a life before 1-800-RU-LEGIT becomes your worst nightmare in life. How about a $50,000 fine and 5 years in prison? Now THAT would be funny. Keep it up people and Microsoft will come calling soon and your asses will be in a sling. Oh and Ernie from Nagtech, Microsoft WILL be calling you soon and you WILL take down IE6 or go to jail.

what makes you so sure of that?...and besides the chances of MS finding out are a million to one...and even if i ever should come to the point where i havet to take it down......i have 13 partner sites...and they'll be more than happy to post it for me..... and 2nd of all called up a lawyer friend of mine..i cant go to jail for this at all......technically speaking i didnt do anything illegal..i got my copy from ctrl-alt-delte.com...and all i redid was redistribute...the person who leaked it...whether it was inside or a beta tester is the one that's gonna get it for breaking the nDA

With your line of reasoning I guess that means that people who traffic drugs can't go to jail because it's not their drugs? Your "lawyer" friend is HIGHLY misinformed and is going to get YOU in SERIOUS trouble someday VERY soon. Tell me, does he defend crack dealers on a regular basis? You don't have to answer anything that would incriminate you. LOL

OK! I confess! I haven't paid for a single but of my software! My CD Burner is going all the time distributing software to my friends and family, my entire software collection is on cdr.

Thats because I use linux ;-)

OpCode

Yeah, Linux is free because thats all its worth !! LOL

Just cause you are Microsoft's b**** and can't figure Linux out does not make it worthless.

I use Linux at work EVERY day and know how to make it function enough to ride up your hard drives a** and rip it's intestines out. Want to find out? Just post your IP dude

Compdoc writes, "I use Linux at work EVERY day and know how to make it function enough to ride up your hard drives a** and rip it's intestines out. Want to find out? Just post your IP dude"

Hrm Compdoc, I find it interesting. You brag about being all against warez, however you offer to DoS somebody. Did you happen to know that is illegal, and it would give the FBI every reason to go after you as well? Ever hear of the word "Hippocrit"? (sp?)

Not only that, but if he has such an understanding of linux, why is it that he is so against it. Obviously he MUST know the control he has over the OS and the power it provides him if he uses it everyday. So then must ask: Why is it, if he has such an intimate knowledge of Linux, is it he chooses to bash it like this. You would think that since he is evidently so wise with it, he would much prefer it.

I just got IE6 and it is not that stable, Up to now I had to reeboot 3 times to make it work ok.

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i mean 2403

leaked a week ago hahahahahaahahahahahahaha
i got my build of 4203 like 3 weeks ago. :P

oh well. :)

Well, maybe the screen shots were taken with Windows 2000, as IE6 beta only had the cabs for win2k. BTW, it was leaked more than a week ago.

Ummm, yeah. I'm pretty sure this "beta leak" is nothing more than somebody actually realizing that screenshots were made from that IE version included in the Whistler build 2460.

You know what?!? Microsoft should stop complaining...software is made by the people for the people..why should only a selected few be able to give it a test run..if they are going to release a beta....they should release it to everyone..the more people that test it..they more chances they might be able to get more bug report/feedbacks.....so for once they could write a piece of software that is not plagued by so many bugs!!! o yeah..while im at it..i got a copy of IE 6....www.nagetech.com....go there if you wanna download it...

Ernie
CEO
www.nagetech.com

"...by the people for he people..."?

You need to get out more and stop reading Stallman's manifesto's. Software is made, in the case of Internet Explorer and non-OSS, by companies for the people. Their not releasing betas to the open public is more a legal issue than anything else. They open up a can of worms making betas open for the public, plus the earlier they opn the beta, the longer a competitor has to copy the features that make it unique. With OSS being given away these days, and the OSS programmers having no ethical issues with copying others work, this is an even more pressing problem.

hahahha made by the people for the people? hahahhaa
cars are made by people. so can i go around taking any car i want?
it was made by employees of microsoft and it's for whoever microsoft chooses to give it to.

Not to mention company reputation...

When a software is released early, without proper testing, and its buggier than crap, then the product is deemed buggier than crap and that's hard to erase from someones mind. Even if the final product is perfect.

The control of betas is supposed to keep the company from having to battle questions and opinions about a product they haven't even finished working on yet.

I love reading the reviews and people saying "there's no reason to upgrade". Sure, there isn't now, but how many months more work do they have to put into it? Why make your review now? Its pointless and demeaning to the programmers.

yeah when whistler was released it had ie6 so i dont know why efront is mentioning this now that its old news!!! not sure what the big deal is either ie is gr8 and it only gets better with age. as far as people posting it on the net let them they want to go to jail let them. not sure who posted it but Microsoft WILL find you no matter where you hide (if they want to hehe). For that guy working at ms GET ME A JOB mike@rgrah.cjb.net

Dont believe me :) All I can say is that Microsoft has responed in a VERY favorable way to ALL the reports I have made. Tell me, why would E-bay posts disappear if they DIDNT listen to ONE person. Rock on RU-LEGIT !!

there is no piece of software that is perfect...everyone just has to understand that. There are going to be bug's in everything. it's just the significance of the bug that is important.

anyway...ha

Don't need free software, I make enough money to buy my own unlike you McDonalds employees with 486's that NEED to use LinSux because a REAL OS wont run on it. LOL

AND, I don't need to narc on anyone. I am a partner of Microsoft and they take care of their partners very well. I only do this as thanks to a great company like Microsoft for all they have done for me. You seem like a paranoid guy and have very good reason to be.

Com Doc,
you have problems, you know what, I am a technical person and warez sites are valuable, I learn alot from them. I evaluate software and if I like it I buy, if I don't well I don't lose several hundred dollars, I can't afford to pay $20,000 a year to keep up with the lastest software on my salary. Companies have made money from my recommendations to purchase the same software the I got from warez sites. I can learn it and evaluate it, recommend it and I ready to support it. I do agree with you that profiting from pirated software is wrong and those people should be prosecuted. But the law allows for people to install unlicensed software for the period of 24 hours and then they must removed it after that. If you can't stop warez sites. Try to tell Iraq what to do and see what they say, you can stop it in America, but it will just go across our borders to other countries. You claim to be a partner to Microsoft. Well then you get alot of software for free. Well alot of techies don't have that privilage. I spoke with a Microsoft Rep about this, Bill Gates is aware that technical people do this and he doesn't care, because he said " Techies make the world go around, the more that use my software, the more Microsoft sells to the companies they work at"
Microsoft probably laughs and says We'll let this fool rock the boat. It is apparent that you hate the world and the people in it. And you want to cause as much pain and suffering as you can. You truelly are evil, maybe the Antichrist. My advice to you is, get off the lithium, because it isn't working, and stick to the drinking. I am sorry you are unhappy with your life, it is your fault not ours. Maybe I should let ComDoc, Inc know you are using their name and giving them a bad name. Bill Gates, Thanks for my job. This is ComDocSucks saying good day Mrs Callabash, where ever you are.

Why doesn't everyone just ignore this idiot.....

Partner of Microsoft? What kind of partner are you with them? Do you work for a reseller an OEM? or what? I just think he does this to annoy people.

But he still needs his mommy!! She is prolly in the next room.

hehe

I just stumbled upon this site tonight and as I read through these posts, I did not know whether to laugh or cry or just pound my face into the wall in frustration. CompDoc, what are you trying to do? Please do not reply to these questions of mine with jokes about black men who will make me their b**** in prison or tell me that MicroSoft will be knocking on my door tomorrow. Just answer my questions. Why are you so in love with MicroSoft? What have they ever done for you? Could you explain your partnership with them?

Why do you insist that Windows is superior to Linux. Everyone knows the truth in that. I use Windows because I have to, as do many people, but don't insult our intelligence. The fact that it uses 20 year old code just proves the genius behind it.

Do you know that you will never make a difference. Even if you made a full time living out of reporting "crimes" on the internet, you could never even scratch the surface. You are one man(?) against thousands who hate you. Why do you thrive on the grief of others? Do you realize how many people on this thread hate you. Why?

Microsoft does not love you. We do not like you. We loathe your existance. If you died in horrible agony, you would not be missed by a single soul. Do you have a mother, or were you born of all that is vile and wrong? Does your heart beat only when it causes distress in the lives of others. Do you think God is holding His arms open waiting for you to recieve His eternal thanks?

For all those of you under the attacks of CompDoc, I salute you. I tried to keep this letter from succumbing to my emotions, but CompDoc has pushed the situation to far. Stay strong my friends. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. CompDoc may wipe out a few, but we will only grow stronger. Is anyone willing to count members of our side and compare them to CompDoc's? I probably won't be able to keep current with this discussion because I'm visiting a college tomorrow in another state, but I look forward to CompDocs replies and to seeing our numbers grow.

Peace my friends.

What, you mean Linux isn't based on 20 year old code? I thought UNIX was around way before Windows was, and seeing as Linux wass built from UNIX, that kind of suggests (from your analogy anyway) that Linux must be so crappy because it is old.

I'm not saying Windows is better than Linux (I don't want to start another war now CompDoc has finally gone), i'm just pointing out your error.

I wonder what Linus would say to that....

You must mean "based on the concept of Unix, which has been around for 20 years", right....

If it was based on the "code" ten it couldn't be "open source" right?

By the way, I use Windows (so I'm not a zealot....)

Just a point of semantics I'm sure!

Gee, what happened to our little "buddy"?

I know this has nothing to do with the topic, but thought this would be the best place to get an answer (hold your flames please). But i need come virus help

Not sure what virus it was (it might not have been one), but first it restarted my computer, then when i tried to load (tried..didn't work though) window (and dont flame my windows either) i found that all my main directories had been deleted (i.e. Program files,windows, My Document, Downloads, even backup), and it had a warning at the choose screen.

WARNING: windows has detected aregistration/configuration error. Choose, Command prompt only (cant though,windows directory gone), and run SCANREG.

It might not have been a virus, but it looks like to much of a co-incidence to me. Afterall, it left my minor directories in place (i.e. Misc., ...etc). Any help?

Thanks in Advance

Why he's probably getting his a** filled with bill juice,seems that he's in love with Mr Gate's to me....Oh btw i haven't paid for software the whole time I've owned a computer, about 10 years...not a red cent...pay money for this windows crap u r joking
Now if you'll excuse me,I have just moved my mouse and now have to reboot...great software this stuff..BS!