Hmm, seems Microsoft has been bribing reviewers to give favorable reviews..

tut tut..

I can't believe people have been brainwashed like this.

http://www.n4g.com/gaming/News-70701.aspx

Hey Dave did you see this? This is what happens when you make a good game. Something that you haven't seen on the PS3 and may not see on the PS3.

The XBOX 360 game "Halo 3" has done what no one else has done before in entertainment history.

It has done what no book, movie, game, CD, or Star Wars toilet paper for that matter could do: Sell for more than $170 million in 24 hours. Oh, and that is in the US alone. It was released worldwide yesterday, so expect even crazier figures soon.

Peter Jackson and his WETA friends are already working on a movie adaptation, so get used to the name "Halo." You will be hearing it a lot in the months to come.

Let me compile you a short list of other games that had simular press kits
FF12
Gears of War
GT3
Resistance

You might find it extremly hard to believe, but its common in the gaming industry and not specific to any one company, platform or person.
I get 'bribes' all the time as a purchase administrator

You are wrong Sony would never buy anybody, ask Target Blockbuster and many others!

Hehe well yeah :)
But I'm just talking about those press kits :) Which are very common and nothing new. Given how big halo 3 is the kit reflects that

Another day, another M$ 360 quality problem. Why even post this? In other news...the sky is blue.

Because people like yourself in other threads always accuse betanews of painting rosey pictures of MS.
If they dont post this then you simply get another chance to bash them in a 'good news ms story'

you should change your name to flip flopper

one day betanews is pro-ms, now wondering why this is news

do yourself a favor, meet a girl

Man, you M$ drones live is a fantasy universe. Give me one link to a post where i accuse BN of being pro-M$.

That is right, you can't, because i never did. Anyhow, nice attempt at changing the topic.

Maybe not you specificly (i did say people LIKE yourself), i cant prove that either way because betanews doesnt offer the abilities of a forum.
One only has to look at the halo3 thread of recent to see all the regular PS3 backers accuse BN of being pro MS
I'm so over the M$ thing mid 90's...... and for a 'MS Drone' I dont own any product of theirs except XP which came with my laptop.

Yawn
Why don't you find a hobby Dave your continous posts of the same crap is rather boring. And to answer your question why do you even bother to post since besides promoting your Microsoft hate campaign.

And if people here post something that other companies do wrong you attack them. Go back to bloray.com

You are right but rememeber you are dealing with a bunch of 12 year olds or just someone with no life.

This is MS's fault how? Could be wrong, but I am pretty sure they are not in the disc manufacturing business.

all these costly mistakes add up!

Yea but point is it would sure piss the hell out of me if I got one. will not happen. I can't stand console games. but still... what a DUMB preventable error on MS part...

Lick the disc and buff it up.
Works every time.

yum.

Toothpaste! Toothpaste cures all scratches.

100% true.

This is a comment about the article and some comments made :)

Trolls don't feed them ;)

It's nice that sites like BetaNews have a story about it. If I owned a Limted Edition Halo 3 that was scratched this would be comforting news. Well ok not to the hard core gamers who would have to wait a week or whatever to play the game, that would be torture :)

You really can't return this one to the store you bought it. Unless that store is in the middle of butt nowhere chances are they are sold out, so the store really could not replace it. And I'm pretty sure it would then be quicker to deal with Microsoft then the store.

I don't have an XBox 360 but hopefully one of my friends who does will buy Halo 3 so I can check it out. Personally I got my butt kicked with Halo 2 so not too much of in a hurry to get it kicked again by Halo 3. Of course I will deny this fact :)

Oh and my girlfriend says I'm a limited edition, just not really sure what she means by that lol

I got the Limited Edition, and when I opened it up both discs were not secured and moving around. Kinda unnerved me at first but I'm not too worried about it. At least they responded quickly to it, I'll keep that in mind if I have problems.

In recent years I've noticed a growing trend in declining quality assurance. I've lost track of all the music CD releases, DVD movies, and games that have broken tabs or fingers that are supposed to hold the discs securely in place (or sometimes not broken at all... just no good reason for the disc to be dislodged).

It's become common practice for me to grab a new movie off the shelf and gently shake it back and forth. If I hear the disc jostling around inside, I put it back and grab another. No one should have to do that.

The point is, it's not just Microsoft that this growing problem plagues. It's industry-wide, and it has to stop.

Whats going on here??? I thought the "problem" of how-to-secure-CDs-in-cases was solved when CD-cases were introduced. Whats so wrong about the standard design that companies have to go out of their way to mess around with it?

How can that be some people here only belive that Microsoft has this problem.

Doesn't it make sense to just bring it back to the store where you bought it for exchange?

I'd keep exchanging until I found an unscratched one.

I agree, the problem is that this is happening with limited editions so its not even easy to find at the stores. Kinda sucks that you'd have to wait at least a week to continue playing.

M$ is having one issue after another with the 360.

Let's see.... 30+% of consoles brick, consoles scratch DVD's, packaging scratches DVD's, steering wheels smoking, etc...

This list grows every week.

That 30% is going to go MUCH higher, before it goes down. Expect the cumulative failure reach 90% of all 360's sold before it settles down. It will take years before the % of 360's sold, that are defect-free to drop.

The 360 will be history long before this ever happens.

Ah hem, care to give us some statistical data on any of these statements?

if knowing that the 360 is so bad is that what alows you to sleep at night, be my guest. very sad though...

Replying to your own posts again, you are pathetic Dave.

what for?
no statistics needed to see who you dealing here with ...
pathetic people who let their desires take control over them...

Ok you two trolls. Maybe you fail to understand that MS is fixing the fialure problems and packaging has been problems for other companies too. You really are idots.

If you buy a game and it is scratched like the report says bring it back. No big secret you can actually return something broken back the place that you bought it. I guess you are not able to understand that kind of logic. Then again you understand no logic.

I have a problem with my PS3 and that is I have nothing t play on it. The PS3 plain sucks no games. And the Wii has been boring me since the games are not much fun outside of parties. I wanted to try metroid online, oh wait the Wii doesn't even have online, yet.

Trolls

This man has nothing better to do than spread anti XBOX crap, him and the rest of the girls over at the blu-ray.com forum are people with no lives and spend every waking moment spreading the Sony gospel.

You want proof you say:

http://petitionspot.com/petitions/Blu-ray/

(link doesnt always work, kind of like BD-J)

Dave Peterson (DaveBG), aka Steve Austin, aka pitdingo, aka Metfanant, aka Benjamin Linus, aka Weller made this petition

He goes by "Dave" over there.

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This is a typical Sony fanboy at blu-ray.com

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=14814

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Here is some sad facts about Sony and BD

http://www.avsforum.com/...showthread.php?t=899662

I'll keep posting this until Christ returns just to embarrass you Dave.

Ummmm, they are the same person. Always have been, he even brags about it over at the BD furom. In the same post, he complains about how he was banned from the AVS forums.

bluray.com has to be one of the biggest collection of clueless people I have ever seen. They have these idiots calling themselves the blu-bloods and having bluray buya thons. That is about as childish as it can get. The petition will be seen by studios as being very childish as well. Their new thing is the guy over at the bits for President. What a bunch of morons. I also find it interesting how the bluray forums seem to be much more shildish in nature than the HD. I guess it proves the point that a toy is the only support the format has.

WTF?! never seen those before.i'm speechless.

Dave (or hoiiwood or whatever the name is)can you please explain to me how one morning a person wakes up and desides he likes a brand or a product that much that he is going to down right worship it? i'm atheist, but while i could see how one can desdie to believe in some suprnatural being (aka, god) why on earth are you worshipping a frikkkking Disk standart?!

How am i an "idiot" for pointing out all the problems M$ is having with the 360? I have no idea where Steve Austin is coming up with his stuff, but are you denying what i am saying?

Sure, they are fixing it, but who cares? Why are there so many problems still appearing? Say whatever you want about the PS3 and Wii, but at least they are not bricking, scratching discs, or having controllers smoking.

Oh and i forgot how XBox Live was crashing last night too....yet another thing.

Because you are an idiot and your posts prove that. MS is fixing the problem. At least they admitted the problem something that Sony never admitted with the PS2. Disk read errors on all versions. Look it up it has been covered. Xbox live being down and the point is what? Like the Sony network has not been without it's problems. You are an idiot for only painting half the picture and blindly ignoring the other half.

Who cares! You are seem very concerned that they are fixing it since that is all you talk about. Does you mom know you have this anti MS obsession? Maybe you should get some professional help with that. Your hate speeches really are getting rather old.

Ed was right all you people will post is your hate of MS and nothing to prove that the PS3 is really a better system. The trolls have a very short list of comments even after they get proven wrong you come back with the same crap that is wrong or not accurate. I have yet to see a controller smoke. There was a possible issue with the wheel but that has also been fixed. I guess it really bothers you when something gets fixed. Sony we don't know since there is nothing to play on the PS3 so we don't know well it is made. So far there have been limited but far from no problems.

How is the network working out for the Wii for online games? It is really pathetic that a system today has no online play. Even the PSP and DS can do that. What a joke you people are.

Their actions speak for themselves. The childishness of their actions and posts are just amazing. They must have a picture of a bloray disk on the wall to jagg off to.

"Because you are an idiot"

Lets, see, i point out the fact that the M$ XBox 360 has major quality issues, and i am an idiot. Wow.

Now you go into some fanboi rant about Sony. The article is about a M$ 360 problem. Does BN need to post something on Sony everytime they post something about M$? And vice-versa?

Dude, you really need to grow up and loose the M$ drone/fanboi nonsense. I did not say Sony or Nintendo is better than M$. I am simply pointing out the fact of how poor the quality is around the M$ 360.

" MS is fixing the problem."

Sure they are...

http://kotaku.com/gaming...elite-loaner-303636.php

This guy's "fixed" Xbox just failed. My repaired 360 failed last month, and I got my repaired one 3 days ago, lets see how it goes, I don't hold out too much hope that it will last more than a few months, before it dies again..

The fixes simply ain't working..

And they are fixing it period leave it along already. You are the one that needs to grow up. Yuo are the one that always points out issues with on company not any others. You hate MS so that is all you talk about is how bad they are. If it MS was not around you wouldn't be on your Windows computer spewing you vial hate speaches.

I point out that others have issues so you get all upset since I point that out, what ever go back to bluray.com. I'm done with you.

How dare you point out the _fact_ the M$ 360 has _major_ quality problems which continue to this day.

The PS3 is...well...the PS3 fails....wait scratch that, the PS3 has no games. The Wii...fails....well they don't fail...but the Wii is not really next generation so the M$ 360 is number one.

Happy now M$ drones?

Well, the PS3 and Wii are not 30+% bricks, scratching discs, having controllers smoke, having packaging scratching discs, etc...

I guess you want me to make up some stuff about them? Or go back to prior generations to come up with stuff? We are talking about the here and now.

The M$ XBox 360 has horrible quality problems here and now.

Yah, he truly is an idiot.

At least they admit and fix their problems, which is more than can be said for Sony. They have trouble admitting fault even when caught red-handed! Got rootkit?

And in other news, 100% of light bulbs fail. Eventually. I'm sorry, were you trying make a point, or just FUDding out your arse again, Steve? Source? Reference? Proof?

Didn't think so. You can go back to taking your PS3 from behind now. :P

I have decided to stop feeding the trolls.

LOL. My _factual_ statements too much for you?

The M$ 360 has horrible quality. This is fully supported by real world evidence. Sorry you can not accept the reality of real world.

The PS3 and the Wii are rock solid, reliable machines. It should not be much of a suprise...the XBox 360 is a M$ product, and they ain't known for their quality products.

have to love the M$ drone response. Can't stay on topic, always trolling some other thing when their mothership M$ is having problems.

Why can't you M$ drones just admit the quality behind the 360 is a total joke. Par for a M$ product.

hmm the petition got 4 extra people to sign it since you brought that to my attention about two weeks ago.

naaaa, it's just that your a lifeless troll with nothing to do

yep. teh M$ drones in full effect. Or should i say the M$ marketing department continues its astro-turfing of all the media outlets.

I sent my 360(no HDMI) off on Sept 11, got it back tuesday Sept 25, great day to get it back in! They sent me a BRAND NEW one Mfgr date 9-15-07, and it has a DVDrom that has a poor laser, it takes several reboots just to get ANY game to boot. I've tried to take it to Wallyworld, Worstbuy, and Gamestart, with no luck.. no receipt, no swappy... SUX!

Were playing H3 now, and when were done, I'll send it back..another 2 weeks to send it off, this time I'll probably get someone elses refurb.. instead of a new one. :(

The first thing I said was: "Do they not have a QA Dept"? I think they surely miss this part.

Your factual statements, that is the biggest joke of the day. You very rarely ever state fact it is usually emotion more than anything else.

Yawn the problems are being addressed and second at least there are fun games on the system unlike the others that you mentioned. For the love of God grow up a little and open you mind to something besides hate. You will never be to much if anything you bore the hell out of me since it is always the same crap nothing new. You are like a broken record same crap everything thread. Is that all you know is how to be anti MS? At least I least I find things good about other systems. Did you notice that the 360 is still selling very well maybe you don't understand that people want it as much as you hate to admit this as fact. The 360 does have some issues but MS is fixing the problems. Other companies have not fixed theres in the past. I know your response this is the here and now. Well the here and now is still valid with the PS2 it still has read problems. Look on you favorite bluray.com board and notice that people there are posting comments about their broken PS3. Oh no that can't be only MS makes things that break. You really need to listne to yourself and get a clue. No company is perfect but at least MS is fixing the problem. You say they are still breaking, yawn, maybe have an other plan yet to implemented to fix the problem. Keep in mind that the warranty exten is three years. I would rather then send me new machine that could break down the line until a valid fix does come out versus the do nothing that other companies have and still do. Stop harping on things that you know nothing about. You do not know what MS is working on. You really fail to grasp some of the most simple things in life I do think as do others that some sort of mental health professional sould be seen for you hate issues.

The day you say anything that is factual is the day hell feezes over.

They are not known for their quality ok how about Windows for staters, great product. I hear you drying oh but it crashes. Well maybe the drivers from the sheap hardware you buy are the cause of the crashing. You point to MS as the cause when of course you have no idea what you are talking about.

I do know a couple of people that have had Wiis fail that too must be just an illusion since only MS makes things that break. You are the master of FUD.

I see they have their boxers in bunch over at bluray since Amaxon has shown to prefer HD to bluray. The 12 year olds are getting the blu bloods together for a full court press against them now. Their childish antics are not going unnoticed around the web. They are becoming the laughing stock latley. Grow up and be mature and people will tend to listen to you more seriously.

All Video game consoles have their faults, MS is newer to the game then Sony and Nintendo, Nintendo had serious issues when they started out as well as Sony. Sony's issues still are happening on the ps2 and its on revision 15 or something.

It is a bit bothersome, problems still are occurring but as long as its getting repaired and not left out in the cold not really an issue, annoyance yes.

What no one can understand is its a fact you hate MS yet you can't shut up about them, why? Why spend time on a topic you hate, it boggles the mind. Here the next MS thread I'll get started for you:

"LOL, M$ sucks"

"Here comes the Xbox720"

"Quality and M$ do not go together"

"The Wii is the greatest"

So next time there is an MS thread we don't need you to post we can copy and paste your "deep" thoughts on the matter.

That about covers him.

*laughs*

Okay, that was funny.

(+1 Funny)

And the troll has left the building.

Talk about the hurdles required to play a game.

If you are lucky enough for your console to not be in for repair, you then have to be lucky enough for the disc not to be scratched during shipping, then of course, luky enough that the 360 does not scratch the disc itself.

Quality system,,,

Talk about the hurdles required to play games.

If you are lucky enough for your console to have a game, you then have to be lucky enough for the game to be shipped, then of course, lucky enough that the PS3 to not bleed your wallet dry.

Not to mention lucky enough for the game to actually be good...not just "pretty".

One of the hurdles for the PS3 is one decent game. I have bought 0 so far. Any game that comes out on both consoles is an automatic 360 purchase for me.

Same here. Made for the 360 and ported to the PS3.

Ah Steve... still waiting for a decent PS3 game to come out, I see? Whiling away your time with FUD on Betanews in the meantime?

So sad.

close your damn A-href tag!

Packaging problem not like that hasn't happened before but since its MS its front page news. They are taking care of it that's all that matters.