RSSMicrosoft Releases Pre-RC1 Vista Beta
By Nate Mook | Published August 25, 2006, 1:01 PM
Microsoft on Friday announced a new beta build of Windows Vista, which serves as an interim update while the company finalizes Release Candidate 1. Build 5536 is available to technical beta testers and MSDN subscribers, and includes a number of quality improvements.
"This interim build is not widely distributed (you'll have to wait for RC1) but does serve to underscore the progress the Dev and Test teams have made since Beta 2, while also confirming that we're still on track for the release of RC1 in the near future," wrote Microsoft product manager Nick White on the Vista Team Blog.
I think to avoid further heart attacks, all of us should use this simple flowchart:
[Is this release newer than what I have (Yes|No)}
Yep.
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|Quick point:
I feel stupid for not spotting this before, but all our useless bickering about release names, etc. is a moot point. Apparently Beta News is the only one calling this release "Pre-RC1." Microsoft just upped the build number...
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|It's on the usenet. 32-bit only.
alt.binaries.boneless
also posted to:
alt.binaries.b4e
(I figure posting this is legit since many of us have legit Vista Keys, and you can only access these groups via paid services.)
I do not suggest downloading *anything* else from these groups. AS always, Viruses abound...
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|I'll never buy a new computer without a real need only to please Microsoft. Not always the newest means the best for you.
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|This build is amazing! Im using it now as a stand alone OS (not a dual boot) - If MS keeps up the good work - this will be the best OS since MAC OS X.
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|Er....
That's not sayin' much. ;)
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|Ain't that the truth...
~dnc
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|I tried out the first CPP. My copy could not connect to the internet, so after 14 days with no activation, I was done. Hopefully the next release works better.
Does anyone know what the status of the MS Fingerprint reader/Fingerprint keyboard is in Vista now? Have they built drivers for it yet?
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|Alpha, Beta, Pre-RC1, RC1, Pre-RC2, RC2, Pre-RTM, RTM, Pre-SP1, SP1.... CTP... someone Pa-LEEEEZ shoot these marketing people!?
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|Yeah ok. You're complaining that the release schedule is complicated? Just look at how complex the OS has to be. Be realistic. "Pa-LEEEEZ"
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|Schedule???? I'm only referring to the new names and how stupid they've become. Pa-LEEEZ indeed. I don't care about schedules. I didn't set their schedule. I didn't insist on vista shipping by "x" date. Who cares. I want it to ship when it's READY to ship. Trying to meet a deadline has done nothing good for anyone. You obviously don't read many of the Vista Team Blogs. They're not very happy with having to yank out features to meet some marketing-imposed deadline. Neither am I. Crippling the horse before it gets to the starting gate is just dumb.
Back to the original topic: The terms are what seem stupid. Not the schedule or milestones. I remember when there was "alpha", "beta", "rc" and then "rtm". That was it. Now we have "pre-rc1". WTF?!
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|It's a build that comes between Beta 2 and RC1, but it's not RC1, so it's pre-RC1. Why is that so complicated? Microsoft creates a new build of Vista quite often, but most never leave Redmond. This one did for a small number of testers to get a chance to find show-stopping bugs before RC1 is released.
I've been involved with several projects that have multiple alpha, beta, and RC stages prior to RTM, and in all of them, there are interim builds. This is just a semi-public build.
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|And im sure you will be 1st in line to b*tch if they release a flawed OS. They are being careful.
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|Lol... I love it when people latch on to one word and think that was the whole point of the comment.
The releases are called what they are because of their order. Hence my use of the term "release schedule." I was not referring to specific points in time as you suggest...
As the replier before me stated, it's between Beta 2 and RC 1, hence Pre-RC1.
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|You guys are blinded by the stupidity of this. Did you study CS in college? Did they EVER mention such a thing as "pre-rc1"? No. I've never seen a single textbook with such a term. CTP either. It's all marketing spin. I'm sure you'll find it completely logical if they start using Pre-beta1, pre-beta2, pre-RTM, etc. Oh well. No wonder so much crappy software sells with people like you guys eating it up so fast.
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|Or Beta 3. ;)
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|Thank you! Someone hasn't lost their mind.
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|*laughs*
"He don't know me wewy wew, do he?"
/tweety
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|Between Beta 2 and RC1 sounds like Beta 3 to me.
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|Sounds like RC1-beta1... a beta release of a release candidate. Or maybe a release candidate candidate.
Things made much more sense when MS just used version numbers.
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|You mean like Windows Version 3.1?
Still got 'em. XP is Windows Version 5.1 (Start - Run - winver)
They had Beta's and RC's of Win3.1, they just weren't as public or accessible.
Or are you talking about build numbers? Because they *definately* still have those...
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|Dude. Settle down. Do you really think the terms "Alpha" and "Beta" came out of a text book?
Where do any of the terms we use for releases come from? I'll give you a hint: it wasn't from your college classes. We got things like "Release Candidate" and "Community Technology Preview" because someone thought, "Hey, this sounds like a good name." Then the acronyms followed and they caught on like wild fire. You get the idea. ...I hope.
I don't know who you're calling stupid. You're the one who replied to your own comment and started talking to everyone else...
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|True that, but maybe they didn't feel like enough had changed to call it the next Beta. Just a guess.
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|You sure are enthusiastic about your software release names, aren't you?
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|Beta 2.5?
wait..they did that....
Beta 2.8125.
Problem solved. I have submitted the suggestion to the interested parties at Microsoft HQ. Expect another press-release momentarily.
;) :P and so on...
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|Yes I am. And I drink way too much coffee.
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|If I only used what I learned in college to write apps, all my apps would be Linux/Win32 console apps. Do you really think I can be hired to do console apps? Me neither. That's why I taught myself stuff beyond the classroom. PHP, SQL, .NET, Win32 API...
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|Or it could be RC0 again.
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|So if it is a Pre RC1 and not a beta, does that make it a gamma release?
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|It's "beta 3" but they're afraid it might scare people away that it's not getting closer to final (RTM) release. It's all marketing. The developers could care less what it's called.
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|I can't want to get my hands on that RC1. Although the last public beta was a little clunky and slow,, after reading all the reviews on the builds after that it looks very promising. Also I am now running a much more powerful PC this time. I went from a laptop 40gb 5400rpm, 3000+ AMD64, 512mb RAM to a AMD64 X2 3800+, 250gb SATA 7200RPM,1024mb RAM
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|LOL.
yeah, I'd say your experience should improve greatly. ;)
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|think we going to have it by xmas.
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|not to the consumers in boxed format
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|Solid. check out the early reviews.
http://www.longhornblogs...e/2006/08/25/16649.aspx
http://www.longhornblogs...1_Is_Available_Now.aspx
http://www.mstechtoday.c...indows-vista-build-5536/
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|Thanks, papa!
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|Not on MSDN Subscriber Downloads, I just checked. The Vista Blog entry does not mention MSDN. Where is the MSDN info?
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|Yeah, I checked too, only builds 5384 & 5475.2
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|Hmmm thinking. RC1 on 9/15? RC2 on 10/15? Gold on 11/15?
I hope so!
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|in 32 Bit flavor only, x64 users will have to wait for RC1 (early september)
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