RSSMicrosoft Sets Whistler Dates?
By Nate Mook | Published September 18, 2000, 4:52 PM
ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley is reporting that Microsoft has set delivery timetables for its next version of Windows, codenamed Whistler. According to insiders, Beta 1 is set for October 11, with Beta 2 to follow on December 6. The timetables also plan for an RTM on April 18, leaving a great deal of time to ship the OS for the back-to-school season. Obviously these dates are extremely tenative and will continually shift, however it demonstrates a very quick development cycle, one lacking a third beta phase. Do you think the software giant will make it? If not, how far off will Whistler be?
Geesh can't people do more than sit on their butts all day and pick apart Betanews because they cited a source from another place? If you are that intent of reading news first go elsewhere otherwise find something more constructive to than sit around and act childish. Good job betanews whether you are first with news or cite it from another site.
Secondly I think those Whistler dates are probably pretty close to what will happen. Remember this is only "NT 5.1" a minor upgrade to Win2000 anyway. Software developers never string out something that is already working to make it extremely different for a minor upgrade. I figure if they could go without Beta2 they would but for the sake of bugs they are keeping it. This really is just a bigger PR'd upgrade than Win95 OSR2.x and Win98Se.
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|NT 5.1?? Minor Upgrade?? haha, that is old news there...back when Whistler was called Windows Neptune 2211 (pre-alpha Whistler)...now it's going to be more than just a minor upgrade....you'll see, just wait....
I have the facts, back i'm not going to state them because you'll find out next year
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|It is a minor upgrade. There aren't that many core improvements. Mostly eye candy.
Now, Windows 2000 was a "major" upgrade over NT 4.0 in every sense of the word.
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|You seem to be a bit confused...
Neptune was going to be a major upgrade, because it was the next consumer OS, which was going to be based off of the NT kernel, and it was going to have different "activity centers", which was a meld of C code, and HTML. But, MS merged it with a project called Oddessey (I have no idea how to spell that), which was going to be the minor professional upgrade (so, Pro, Server, and Advanced Server).
Now we have Whistler from the two merged products, for Whister Personal, it is a major upgrade, because it's a whole new kernel, for the business versions, not all that much is new.
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|Exactly...
I meant whistler personal...people want to see an Os like that for consumers finally...
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|news was posted on wininformant's supersite as exclusive in the whistler FAQ: http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/whistler.asp
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|I could have sworn that I've seen this article here before... same exact thing word for word.
And it is very possible that there is no 3rd beta, because from what I hear, the feature list is already locked, and it's already in beta1, MS doesn't generally lock the feature list until around beta3.
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|As has been pointed out before (specifically when I brought up a similar topic), BetaNews pulls many of their stories from a general newsfeed, although they seem to be getting very sloppy in adding the reference to the newsfeed to the end of their stories recently.
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|Fusion, we rarely use newsfeeds and always credit them if something is syndicated from another source. In cases where the information was first posted elsewhere, the source is usually cited right at the top of the post as it is here. I think you may be confused about another story where similar dates were mentioned.
Nate Mook
nmook@efront.com
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|Nate, you seriously need to rethink the whole idea about "BetaNews."
Now tell me, what does "Massive Denial-of-Service Attack Looming - CERT Report" or "Chernobyl Virus Author Arrested In Taiwan" have to do with "BetaNews"? You are NOT no SlashDot or any other General News site and never will be. Give it up. With this new layout and new "eFront" name comes a lot of other "un-needed" content. Sorry to come on strong like this but I think I speak for everyone when I said what I said.
Cheers
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|Jedilord, I'm sorry you feel this way. We are doing our best to hit all sides of the spectrum, and occasionally some news that impacts computing in general is posted - such as the CIH virus. Since the new design we have almost twice or three times as many pieces of daily software posted as before, plus more news - rather than the occasional Microsoft beta story, we try to have at least 5 or 6 articles each day, sometimes more. While I am a bit confused on what is "missing" from the site now that we made the switch, I do understand some of your concerns with not wanting to see articles at all. We will soon be launching the next incarnation of the site, which will allow you to pick and choose what specifically you want and don't want to see, in addition to the layout. If you want to see the old layout, with only Microsoft beta stories and only 14 new pieces of software each day, you can. If you have any other requests for features that you would like to see, let us know.
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|I enjoy Beta News and think they do a great job. I'm tired of off-topic posts about how much BN sucks. It's getting tired.
Craig Knauer
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|Good call, BN is good. Don't like it? Do us all a favour; shut the hell up and don't visit.
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|Newbies...Typical.
Should've been around way back when...
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|I have been visiting since "back then." And "back then" their news stories were all about WindowBlinds this, WindowBlinds that. The information wasn't *all* that valuable. Even if they do have "off-topic" news stories now, at least they are useful.
But something DOES need to be done to bring more attention to the "betas." I would suggest making a discussion forum for each posted beta, like there is with news stories. The "Review" thing is cheesy; about half the time you see people asking questions and making off-topic comments instead of posting reviews.
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|I don't think Betanews has got better or worse. Its simply changed direction.
It used to be 99% news about new software and beta products, but has now migrated to a general technology new site, with the betas a kind of sideline.
I mean, news about MSN subscribers, DDOS attacks, Government stands on Napster, a report saying that MP3 Pirates are thriving on the web (now thats news!) have nothing to do with new software!
Like I say, not better, or worse, just different.
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|Jr, you are dead right. When we launched FileForum as the main download site for ALL software, we did not realize so many people would want to converse about a piece of software rather than review it - it kind of took us by surprise. This new feature WILL be a part of the next incarnation of BetaNews, coming in the near future. Like I said, if you have any other ideas, shoot them my way.
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|Who you calling a newbie? I've been here well before the eFront thing.
Watch your mouth in future, smartarse.
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|kinda funny how ppl complain but yet manage to come here to post a message, if they didn't read the article they wouldn't have been here in the first place to post those messages, hmmm.....just my 2 cents
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|Same here, I've been visiting betanews for several months before they switched it over to efront, and have actually seen a big surge in the amount of beta related stories, as well as the rest of the stories
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