Microsoft claims 2-to-1 sales edge for GTA IV on Xbox 360

By Ed Oswald | Published May 2, 2008, 11:15 AM

Microsoft says anecdotal evidence indicates its version of Grand Theft Auto IV is doing much better than Sony's, although Sony seems to dispute that claim.

So far, there are no hard numbers available, so Microsoft's claims cannot be verified. To its defense Sony is disputing the claims as inconsistent with its own reports, although it will not provide more data until further reports are received.

Either way, there also seems to be a boost in console sales as a result of the game's release on Tuesday. Both companies say console sales rose during the week, and data from NPD should provide more color in that department.

Microsoft said that while Xbox 360 sales should be up during the month of April, a bigger gain is likely to occur in May. Another assist to the Xbox 360 is its exclusive content which will not be available on the PS3 until this fall.

About one million GTA gamers played over Xbox Live during the first 24 hours, with 2 million achievements unlocked and 1.5 cross-game invites. Data on usage among PS3 users was not available.

Across both consoles, about nine million copies of the game are expected to be sold, with the game likely eclipsing Halo 3 as one of the fastest selling games in history.

Several retailers report either low stocks or being sold out altogether. On Amazon.com, the Xbox 360 version was out of stock for a period of time on Thursday, although it appears to be back in stock on Friday.

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One difficultly in trying trying to calculate sales is that it depends on the Market.

For example, In Japan ( a big Gaming market per capitia), Xbox has had trouble cracking that market as has Apple with some of it's products.

In the U.S., I believe the xbox is outselling the others based on sales data though trying to decript the financial info from Japanese makers is sometimes difficult.

As far as the Wii is concern, this is a manufacturing issue or maybe a PR ploy to bolster sales in the 4th qtr. The simple fact is that no one can gey a Wii because they aren't being shipped.

So who's in the lead? it's hard to tell because of how fractured the gaming market is and how you define that market. Alot of the games that make up the bulk of the money earned (since all the gaming manufactures sell their "boxes" below cost) comes from games tied only to their system so it really depends on whether or not the Software end produces a lot of games and what system the games are made for and this tends to run in cycles. But the 4th qtr will tell the story.

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Summed up by the following

The 360 offers more games and more exclusive content which attracts more gammers.

If you work for Sony you can deceminate all the numbers you want to make it look like you are selling more consoles keep trying you can't fudge the numbers that much

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"I do not have it connected to my tv, i am running it on my Dell 2405FPW monitor which i also run my computer on."

Excuse me pitdingo, but didn't you say you own a Mac? Is that Dell running OSX?

Hmmm perhaps you should remember what you post prior to making up new bulls***.

Busted ...... again.

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***yawn***

I am not sure what software if any runs inside a monitor. As i have stated many times, i build my machines. I wanted a really good monitor, and the Dell 2405FPW was the best bang for the buck at the time.

My custom built machine dual boots XP for gaming and Ubuntu for real stuff.

I bought my wife a Mac Book Pro as she wanted something portable and i wanted a good quality computer which did not run the turd known as Vista.

FAIL..... again.

***edited: Time to play some more GTA 4 on my brand new PS3. Enough talk...

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So ..... you ordered just a monitor from Dell. OK.

I see that GTA4 is so engrossing that you have to come here and explain your **** ups every couple hours.

Did you know the 40GB PS3 has wireless? Dumb ass.

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Why are you using XP? You hate 'M$' that much it would be very hypocritical of you to even use their products.

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I just thought of something. Which Dell monitor (model #) are you using pit?

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All this means is more degenerates own xbox 360s than PS3s. That being said, my PS3 copy of GTA IV arrives tomorrow. :P

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I'm not sure why this is significant... perhaps the percentage of each console owners buying GTA might be interesting... but that would just help define the demographics of each group. I have a PS3 and have never played ANY GTA games. I'm sure it is a great game, or people wouldn't be buying it. But, if I had an XBOX I wouldn't be buying it either... so what does it matter? Aren't they both the same for all intents? Maybe more content on the BD and better online features on Live?

When I read these articles and comments, I'd like some factual information on why each platform is 'better'. Does either have bigger textures? Better music? And I don't mean DTS vs. THX or some crap like that... or 45 fps vs. 50fps... Are they any multi-platform games that are SO much better that it is worth having both a PS3 and Xbox?

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Post deleted due to HALO's delicate sensibilities being hurt.

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Hollywood, You are looking pretty pathetic mate.

Your attempts to make pit look bad have backfired. Stop trolling and move on.

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Dingo,

You need to grow up and stop lying about products you own just so you can bad mouth Micrsoft and try and piss off 360 fanboys.

If you noticed, not one person disagrees with the facts, just that I should knock it off.

So, where's the proof of your 40GB PS3 that you didnt know had wireless built in until someone posted it here? That's what I thought.

You can try all you want to shift the attention to me so you don't look like the complete lying idiot who contradicts himself with every post.

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I know. It is really funny, actually kind of sad, seeing him make such a fool of himself. It is not the first time though.

Funny how his summary is not even supported by the discussion in the posts below...

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By the way Halo, ask yourself which is more pathetic. Making up stories and getting busted on a public forum or being the guy who figured it out and called him on every BS post?

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They are both pretty sad actually. But I think top honors goes to you mate.

If PIT misspeaks or lies or exaggerates, he does so in a one liner or one paragraph. You mate go on and on. I've seen 30 paragraphs of rubbish on some of your posts(the one you just deleted was like 25paragraphs!). And most of the time its personal insults. "i have more money" "i am smarter"...

Don't get me wrong, we've all posted garbage and insults on a public forum, thats what makes them so fun... But let me tell you something in all honesty mate. If you truly didn't care and are just trying to call PIT on "every BS post", you are not showing it.

He is outright making you look like a child.

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I knew you would say that. Thanks for the suggestions, but I think I'll stick with doing things my way.

Why do things half assed? I have one setting and it's all the way up, all the time. Sorry if you don't like the way I deal with insects.

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I agree he carries on and on too much :)
Generally casts a shadow over pit's deception.
But seriously do you see the stuff pit says in all the threads that remotely have something to do with Microsoft? The guy is asking for it. 99% of the time noone backs him up, for bloody good reason too. He talks s*** and seems to get a raise out of it

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I find it interesting that the sony fanbois rip the 360 for failures but over at bluray.com there is a lot of people b****in& about the PS3 blu ray drive failing. I see nothing has changed with Sony's history with optical drives. The turds over there mention that they buy their systems at Costco since they have some unlimited return policy. The drve fails they get a new system then repeat the process. I wonder if Sony will offer to fix the issue for free.

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I got GTA on the xbox, no problems here. Some reviewers went on to say that the graphics were a bit crappy, i think they are as outstanding as any other xbox 360 game out there.

I believe the xbox 360 will always outsell PS3 due to the fact it's easier to code for and game titles come out faster. The only game i'm dying to play on the PS3 is God of War 3 and it sucks to think i have to buy a £350 console just to play the next installation in my favorite game series. I couldn't give a s*** about blu-ray, who wants to pay over the odds for a movie when i can download HD content off the web for free? Oh well, at least Metal Gear Solid 4 will FINALLY be out by then :P

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Hey Hollywood__, how many times do you need to edit your posts?

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Now that I know it bothers you, I'll edit every one of them, thanks for the ammunition.

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Pitdingo is completely full of s***. His newest way to try and piss off the MS fans is to say he bought a PS3. His fake Wii just brings him nothing but grief.

Now he has a new fake system to compete with the 360, a non BC 40GB PS3 with no MC slots or wireless ethernet.

He will never be able to post here again without me berading and belittling his lying ass. Every single post he makes will be followed by a raving manifesto about what a complete bulls***ter he is.

Thanks for the entertainment pit, you make everyone feel so much better about themselves because they are not like you.

Pit quote of the day:

"I did own a M$ 360, but i sold that as it had no good games and I did not want to deal with the 30%+ failure rates".

BWAAAAAAAHAAAHAHAAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The one person you don't want to try to BS is me pit. I personally know three pathological liars, and they are all better than you. You keep following the same typical style that a bad BS'er does with your posts.

Every one of you BS posts ends in a anti-MS rant, which is your ultimate goal. Anybody who just "picked up" a PS3 would mention the model they bought. A good lie depends on details, which you tend to leave out.

Try again pit.

By the way, the coolest thing about owning a PS3 and a 360 is when a playable demo comes out, you have the ability to really see the difference in the consoles.

Burnout Paradise is a perfect example, it plays identical with the exception of the Sixaxis control on the PS3, which is cumbersome for past paced driving games. The difference is in the graphics, the 360 is smoother looking and the PS3 has very noticeable jaggies (badly rendered straight edges).

If you look at Grand Turismo HD on the PS3, they are not there, it's actually one of the best looking driving games I have seen. It's just very slow and boring in every way.

The Wii can't compete on any level with either adult system but is a hell of a lot of fun, especially when we have parties.

However, I just bought Rock Band and a second wireless guitar. This is the best party game, ever. I still want to get SceneIt, if anyone has tried it or owns it, let me know.

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"Anybody who just "picked up" a PS3 would mention the model they bought"

Why? You can believe whatever you want to believe, it is clear you have your own fantasy about what I own and have owned.

Enough talk...time to get back at GTA 4.

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Here comes the details. "Now back to GTA 4" OK Pit. You are totally credible now.

You need to take lying lessons kid.

You can tell he's miffed. Poor broke bas****.

(shakes head)

Let's dissect your BS for a moment, shall we?

"Picked up a PS3 with GTA4 last night. It was the last PS3 they had in stock. I asked the guy at Gamestop if they had any Wii's....nope. He said he had plenty of M$ 360's in stock though. He said those are moving real slow.

He said lately, the Wii's and PS3's have been selling almost as fast as they get them in, and the demand for the M$ 360 has slowed to a crawl."

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You start out with a comment designed only to piss of 360 fans, which is typical. Lying about buying a PS3 with GTA 4 because the subject of this story is "360 is outselling the PS3 version of GTA4", hoping to get a rise out of people.

You then move on to say how great the Wii is and no one has them, typical again. As you claim you own one and are always posting how no one has them trying to get a rise out of everybody. Remember posting "Good luck getting a Wii for Christmas ...... I got mine"? Liar.

And you finish up with a third comment meant to enrage the 360 crowd, again. Pathetic and typical.

Instead of telling us how great your PS3 with GTA 4 is, you bash MS and praise the Wii (some more).

Are actually dumb enough to think people will believe you? Now you are so deep in BS, you have to keep playing.

Moron.

Let's hear the next pile of crap pit. This is very entertaining. Your squirming and everyone thinks you are a complete joke, even before you posted your fake PS3 / GTA4 story.

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I am a manager at a Large gaming store in Australia, and I can say that the XBOX 360 version IS selling more than the PS3 version. That is to be expected, however, because there are more XBOX 360's in customers hands than the PS3. I got the PS3 version personally, my XBOX is on the fritz atm.

However, we found that we cannot reorder PS3 versions because they are sold out and are on back order. The 360 version we can still get quite easily!

And if your finding it hard to get your hands on PS3, but its easy to get 360, its because Sony has been bundling it's console with high-end bravia TV's, and that leaves very little for us retailers!

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Picked up a PS3 with GTA4 last night. It was the last PS3 they had in stock. I asked the guy at Gamestop if they had any Wii's....nope. He said he had plenty of M$ 360's in stock though. He said those are moving real slow.

He said lately, the Wii's and PS3's have been selling almost as fast as they get them in, and the demand for the M$ 360 has slowed to a crawl.

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OMGZ! We have proofz!~

Pitdingo spoke with someone at a gamestop that can account for all the sales of GTA IV!

Just because one area has sold more ps3 does not mean all of them are.

Before you go raving about MS this and fanboy that, I own a ps3, not a 360.

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And my local KMart has about 5 ps3's and 5 xbox 360's in stock and 0 wii's. What's your point?

It's sad that you believe that your little experience was indicative of the current market sales trends. The party store down by my house had lots of snickers in stock but no kitkats.. snickers must be hurting pretty badly.

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It's funny because Pit buys the last PS3 in stock every time there's an article about game systems. :)

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the NPD #'s don't show this. the sales for the 360 have been strong.

you are really breaking some new news with the wii not being in stock.

the wii is outselling the 360 and ps3 almost 3 to 1

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where did i say i bought a PS3 before? I think you have me confused with someone else.

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you sure are reading a lot into my post...

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Please. I'm not a fool.

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I'm calling BS as well. Pit, you simply have no credibility and failed to mention which model PS3 you bought. All you want to do is bash Microsoft and will make up any story to do so. Sad and pathetic.

The details are what makes a lie believable, you simply suck at everything.

What's this? An unedited post?

Now it's edited.

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I knew he posted that somewhere before too.

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pit a post from you about 360 sales is like a weight watchers guide from a fat person.

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Who cares troll.

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You know the links you previously posted when asking to provide 'legitable' sources still show the 360 selling more than the ps3, even if only a smaller margain more.

So which is it? Slowed to a crawl or still consistantly selling well? You cant have it both ways

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Does it matter which model? Ok....i bought the 40GB model. I am planning on throwing in a bigger hard drive when i need it since the PS3 allows you to use any hard drive unlike the proprietary M$ 360 hard disks which cost a fortune.

What else would you like me to tell you? Your feeble attempts to discredit me are laughable. I guess you are just jealous that i actually can buy a PS3.

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provide a link. Wishing something happened is not the same as it happening. I would never had said i bought a PS3 since i only had a Wii up until this past Friday night.

I did own a M$ 360, but i sold that as it had no good games and I did not want to deal with the 30%+ failure rates.

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that is what the dude at Gamestop said. You M$ fanbois all have your panties in such a knot about this.

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You are so full of crap. You didn't buy a PS3. For the money it would cost you throw a bigger HDD in, you could have just bought the 80GB.

So you settled for a non backwards compatible version? You do know the 40GB cannot play PS/PS2 games? I guess you should check before you post BS comments. Not to mention, no memory card slots or bult-in wireless ethernet.

I would love to see they day you own more useless crap than I do. Don't be mad because you are no good at lying about buying a PS3 just to try and piss off MS fanboys.

You just wanted a new way to get people going on here because you say you own a Wii (which I dont think you do) and are tired of everyone making fun of your pretend little kiddie system.

I think you have been lying about you income long enough that you figured you could afford a fake PS3.

I know I'm right and so does everyone else.

You did exactly what I thought you would do and throw some anti MS BS in your post. Predictable and a bad liar. Pathetic little fat man.

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This sounds an awful lot like DaveBG. "I had a 360 and I sold it" Yeah ..... OK.

So let me get this straight, you went from a 360 ....... to a Wii ....... then "picked up" a non BC PS3?

That would make you the dumbest person here or the biggest liar. I'm going with both.

You wouldn't care to post a side by side pic of your 40GB PS3 and your Wii would you? Of course not, you will go on to tell me that you don't need to prove anything to me.

Which is the same as saying "I'm a lying POS and can't back up any of my claims". We don't even think you are old enough to own a credit card.

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err ok...

so which is it again? You obviously felt the need to share what he said so you feel strongly about it. But it clashes with your previous beliefs. You did after all link a sales figure site after someone asked you to provide 'reputable' source

fail on the m$ fanboi part btw. I currently only own two devices, DS & Wii. But hey if it makes you feel special calling people M$ fanbois then power to you

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Are you saying that 'proprietary' is a bad thing now? Can we hold you up to that?

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whatever makes your little world spin around...

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You will need to replace that drive soon numb nuts with the huge installs required for games. The blu ray drive is so friggin slow they need to load most of the game on the HD. My 20 gig drive on the 360 still has lots of space and have about 30 games and tons of arcade games. Do that with an 80 gig PS3 jag off.

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No good games thats a good one. You bought GTA let me see thats out on the 360. Funny how for having no good games they sell alot of them. What ever makes you happy in your little world.

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You and your BS is very entertaining, thank you for the laughs. I mean it.

I am embarrased for you, not mad or angry.

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"I did own a M$ 360, but i sold that as it had no good games and I did not want to deal with the 30%+ failure rates."

Anyone who can say that especially after buying a ps3 and wii must be on some serious drugs. No good games? come on you can do better than that. Why on earth did you buy a ps3? For GTA4? Any person who can for a moment put their hatred for MS away should be able to admit that the 360 does indeed have a decent selection of good games.
I used to have a 360, I sold mine but I sure as hell dont believe it doesnt have any good games. I still believe it has a better selection than PS3 and Wii combined.

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I sold my M$ 360 long before GTA came out.

you fail. try again.

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So you sold a cheaper system, just to buy a more expensive system for a game that is out on the cheaper system ( with more features )you already had?

Your logic and comment = uber fail

pit logic - " I cant afford all three systems, let me sell the systems i own, just so that later i can buy another system to play the same games that are comming out for this system. YEAH! i am the smat one" ( no typo on "smat" .. as im making fun of the fact you most definitely are not :) )
ing about your suppossed purchase.

And this is why you are most definitely lying.

You say you just purchased a brand new toy, the PS3.

yet instead of going and playing it for countless hours, since that is why you bought it in the first place, you stay on here and try and "win" on the internet by lying.

If that is so much more fun than playing on your new toy, then go get a refund you st00p. Posting on BN is free :p.

As i have said before, you = fail. Always. Forever.

Thanks for losing, even on the internet. That actually makes me feel quite sorry for you.

In fact to help you out i will give you some help.

Instead of posting on here and not only wasting our time ( much more valuable than your own ), you are wasting your relatively less valuable time as well.

Despite the little value it has, it is still being wasted. So instead, go work for what really amounts to peanuts ( otherwise you would REALLY be able to buy all three systems, much like many here have ), and hope you can save that little extra money, along with your recycling ( with you we know you need every cent you can get your hands on ) and in a couple years afford the PS3 after a couple more price cuts. Let me know how you like your new toy then. But dont stay and argue ok? Who am i kidding?...its gonna be so fun and you will be playing it so much you wont even have the time to post on here...right?

HAHAHAHHAHAHH

I hope i never pitdingo in life ( aka fail in life )

Latz, SB

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i am guessing the past tense of my statement went over your head... Did i say right now there are no good games for the M$ 360? nope. nice troll rant though...

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Why would i hold onto a console which had no good games when i owned it, suffers from 30%+ failure rates, scratches discs, burns down house, has peripherals which let out green smoke, etc...?

Why would i want that in my house? no thanks.

Can you call my credit card company and tell them i really did not buy that PS3, GTA 4, and cable?

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"Why would i want that in my house? no thanks."

Let me fix that for you, Why would i want that in my parents house? no thanks.

Wow you really have a bug up your As$ about Microsoft. All the crap that you complain about is very old news. I can't wait when the blu ray drive takes a shi% on you. You will find some way to make excuses for Sony screwing up yet an other optical drive.

I did call your credit card company and they said you used your parents credit card and it is in fact over the limit. I guess they need to raise your rent for that basement apartment you have.

Sorry Dave you fail

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Thanks guys,

I'm getting tired of doing this all by myself.

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"Thanks guys,

I'm getting tired of looking like a fool all by myself."

fixed that for you....

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"now" is really digging, your under fire in this thread so understandable.

Can you even call someone else a troll without a smile on your face? I mean seriously do you actually READ what YOU post and WHERE you post it? You gave the word troll its very meaning here.

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Noticed theres only one halo backing you up here?
The bigger fool is you

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I promise to keep my posts to one or two quick jabs at dingo from now on.

I think dingo and HALO are going to have a commitment ceremony soon from the looks of it.

Who's the b**** and who's the butch?

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hehe :)

At least Halo occasionally does actually use common sense in his posts and not go on some holy crusade against all things MS. He did once in this thread even. I think it's safe to say pit just winds him up sometimes.

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How is _your_ inability to read a sentence my problem? Past and Present tense are some fundamentals my friend.

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THINK before you post. I know it may hurt but try

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Of course more copies of GTA for 360 were sold...

There are more 360s.

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When I bought my console I based my decision on research. Future game titles (I would want to play), included hardware and hardware reliabilty. Fanboy thoughts never came into play and anyone who buys electronics that cost as much as these do because of fanboism is a nit. I went with the PS3 for two main reasons. The first was the bluray drive since I smelled bluray winning the war long before it did. The second was the countless hundreds of broken xbox 360's I saw all over the net. All of them with failed hard drives or fried components due to overheating. Then I read dozens of reports of noisy Xbox's buzzing away while people were playing. Then I went over to a friend of my brothers (the only person either of us knows who owns a 360) and tried it out for myself. After around 30 minutes of play, the thing was hot enough to cook an egg on, this while it sits open air on top of his etertainment stand. It also does hum (I would say hum not buzz) very loudly and the controllers are about as confortable as holding a pinapple. He rarely ever plays it and spends 90 percent of his time on his PS3 and his Wii. Sufice it to say I made my decision and bought a PS3, couldn't be happier.

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You know that post has absolutly nothing to do with this article and you didnt even reply to anyone.
That makes you yet another troll :(

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Good eye Setian,

That post smelled of desperation like someone explaining why they picked a PS3 over the 360 to make themselves feel better about thier purchase.

He has buyers remorse, he just doesn't know it yet.

If you have the money, get both systems. And throw a Wii in there too.

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Oh, Jesus Christ. Can all you little boys go play your consoles and get off the internet. I am so sick of hearing POS3 and CoXBox 360. Seriously, they are both great consoles, one being easier to program for, while the other is seriously one hell of a number cruncher. BOTH have their flaws which made neither of them a good buy early on. As for GTA IV, I haven't seen it on a PS3 yet, but my boy has a 360 and I have seen the game lockup a few times in the 2 days he had it. So I guess it goes to show NO console is perfect or the GOD BOX, they are basically the same. Get over it fanboys, none of you have any bragging rights over the other.

/End Rant

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sounds like you dont have a consoles then why are you posting up cause in reality nobody cares what you think about how you hate xbox or ps3 on a article about them. take your flame post somewhere else. LOSER

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No console iLLz? :(

Why are you ranting here?

The only people you could trust for an honest opinion are people who own all three. There may be one or two in this entire forum.

Pit says he owned a 360, then sold it in fear of red rings, then picked up .... get this ..... a Wii as his main gaming console. On top of that, Mr Disposable income says he bought a 40GB non BC PS3 with GTA4 and no wireless, but he is going to add a bigger HDD later.

These are the idiots who own nothing and rant about things they don't have. There's only a few people like him on here but most only own a single console and cheerlead.

You can't win here, but you can sure make people look stupid, like pitdingo and his imaginary systems.

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Let's see who has more consoles out there? So more then likely, which one would of sold more games? Microsoft, duh.

Why is this such a pissing match, talk about dumb.

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Why are you folks so touchy about your little toys? Your mum should lock those things away in any case when you are grounded.

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who could care less about these b****ing and lies about consoles, with the inconditional participation of it's fanboys... Oh come on, get a life boys!

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fanboy this fanboy that, good argument!! why dont you go make your self usefull and go watch som internet porn... or jump off a bridge!

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"From our position, the launch of GTA IV has been tremendous in driving traffic to our stores, as well as providing a vigorous lift in PS3 console sales over this time last week. We attribute the growth to a huge fan base of PS2 owners who see this title as the trigger for the PS3 upgrade they’ve been planning," said Bob McKenzie, senior vice president of merchandising-GAMESTOP.

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I have a friend who works at Gamespot and he said their was a boost in sales for the POS3 too. Instead of before when it was 5 Xbox 360s to ever POS3 sold now its 3 Xbox 360's to ever POS3 sold.

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Oh well screw what the VICE PRESIDENT of MERCHANDISING for GAMESTOP said!!! Your FRIEND (a retail CLERK) is good enough for me.

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I was agreeing that their was a boost in sales for the POS3 which is what the VP said. Didn't say how much of a boost and I was telling you what my friend said. He's a district manager BTW.

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So in your friend's district the xbox was outselling the PS3 by 5-1!!! And now its 3-1?

Well in that case MS should talk to him about duplicating that across the country seeing as the March NPD #'s were
262,000 360
257,000 PS3
In what world is that 5-1? Stop the lies mate.

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edit: nm, didnt find it on gamestop but did elseware.

Personally i think brand loyalty is a thing of the past but each to their own i guess

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Those figures must be wrong
Pitdingo says 360 sales have slowed to a crawl.

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I never said that. The guy at Gamestop said that. Boy, you M$ fanbois need to relax.

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You are so right the half wits at Gamestop are not fanbois themselves.

By the way the Gamestop by me has Wiis in stock.

You need to chill out. Pi$ingo.

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And you shared it because you feel strongly about it. YOU (yes you) said that HERE
The gamestop dude did not come here and post it, YOU did
You are really pathetic you know.. thick as bricks.

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Plus the $ony POS3 has problems like the cell phone glitch.

The MS 360 does have better games because the 360 is easier to program games for. The PoS2 was hard to program and so is the POS3. MS makes it easier hence it makes better games.

"To its defense Sony is disputing the claims as inconsistent with its own reports, although it will not provide more data until further reports are received."

This means they're going to wait until they can fabricate a report to show they're doing better. I brought my 360 over to a friends house that has a POS3 and their are noticeably more people on the 360 version than the POS3. Plus the game plays better because the 360 controller is better than the POS3 even though it doesn't have 6axis.

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MS and Sony both spin sales figures. Heck, every company in the world spins figures.

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See, it's funny because you think you're clever, when you just come off as an idiot.

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MS makes it easier hence it makes better games.
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It's also easier to take a dump than it is to prepare a meal. So my pile of dookie is better than the meal I prepared to eat?

And no I am not saying one system is better than the other, just pointing out the flaw in your logic. I have GTAIV on both and the both freeze up or wont load from time to time.

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Don't know about the M$ 360 version, but on the PS3 version i disabled the internet and mine has not locked up all morning. Really is a good game.

Not sure how they did not catch that bug before launch.

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BS ..... again. You disbaled internet on a machine with no wireless built in? Wait, you are using a hard wired internet connection because you just happen to have a hard wired ethernet jack behind your TV?

What about your ....... Wii? That has wireless internet built in. So, you are using wireless on the Wii, but a hard wire option on your 40GB PS3?

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Interesting point you have there.
For the cost involved I would have just purchased a 80gb model. Wireless or nothing for me. Last thing I want network cable laid out from router to the tv.
And for someone who doesnt appear to take gaming very seriously... plenty of effort to be had

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FYI... 40gb PS3 DOES have wifi. For gods sakes think before posting mate!

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Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) IEEE 802.11 b/g Wi-Fi

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I stand corrected

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"You disbaled internet on a machine with no wireless built in?"

Sure. There is this little jack on the back of the PS3 for a cable.

"Wait, you are using a hard wired internet connection because you just happen to have a hard wired ethernet jack behind your TV?"

I do not have it connected to my tv, i am running it on my Dell 2405FPW monitor which i also run my computer on.

"So, you are using wireless on the Wii, but a hard wire option on your 40GB PS3? "

As a matter of fact, yes. My Wii is on my old 32 inch Panasonic i have upstairs in the living room so i can play it while my wife watches TV downstairs on the big TV. I would have this in my office too, however, my wife likes to play it too and there is not enough room for the two of us to play it in there.

Are you happy now, or do you need more information for your fantasy?

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sshhhhhh. don't ruin the trolls fantasy. It is funny following this BS to see how much of a fool they make of themselves.

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You need to have the Wii on a small screen like to get any sort of a decent picture on it.

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Funny you calling someone a troll and making a fool of themselves. If its not the pot calling the kettle black here.

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Nice cover pit, so you just proved you don't own a PS3 as you didn't know the 40GB has wireless.

I didn't know either, mine is a launch console, and I dont' follow the SKU's like a little cheerleader girl. My first firmware update was a month ago.

So instead of proving me wrong and trying to shut me up, you play along like you knew it the whole time with this post:

"sshhhhhh. don't ruin the trolls fantasy. It is funny following this BS to see how much of a fool they make of themselves."

Nice try liar. You are getting more pathetic every day.

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By the way, you did exactly what a bad liar would do. You got busted and tried to play it light and cool. Does your wife know what a pathetic lying POS you are? Of course not, you are lying about that too.

You figure, If you say you're married, we would all think "At least someon can stand the son of a b****". This is the worst one yet.

Lets hook our brand new 1080p gaming console to a computer monitor with a hard wired ethernet cable, even though it has wireless built in. Retard.

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By the way, ****tard pitdingo, you said you own a Mac in prior posts, which is it Dell with Windows or Mac with OSX.

Lying again or just cought in a prior BS post?

You can't outsmart someone with unlimited ambition and ammunition.

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"By the way, ****tard pitdingo, you said you own a Mac in prior posts, which is it Dell with Windows or Mac with OSX."

How does a monitor run Windows? LOL. you really do not have a clue.

Why can't i have more than one machine?

"You can't outsmart someone with unlimited ambition and ammunition. "

i think i have proven that many times over in this thread. FAIL.... again.

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My Wii looks ok on my big a$$ "tv".

The graphics suck, but it's not sold for graphics.

hrmph

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Disbaled - To wrap a cord around the wrist or another object and use your weight to quickly and permanently disable it.

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'i think i have proven that many times over in this thread. FAIL.... again'

Actually you have woven such a complicated web of bulls*** and lies on this site it's starting to all come apart for you. That much has become very evident by your replies on this thread alone. You had one account banned, matter of time before the second receives the same honour.
Remember, YOU came into this thread trolling. YOU put yourself in this situation with your blind hatred of Microsoft. YOU are only to blame.

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"So instead of proving me wrong and trying to shut me up, you play along like you knew it the whole time with this post"

Spot on

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Setian, the voice of reason. You would have thought they'd have banned me by now too being that I'm such an ass.

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Setian,

When I start my own country, I want you to be my VP.

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Admitting it is the first step :)

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Well hell I didnt know it had wireless because I dont have one :) If I did have one I'm pretty dam sure I would notice and pointed that out to you right away :)
Then again you dont see me bashing $ony'$ p$3 either
ADDED: and notice pit went right over your comment, give him a day to think up another excuse

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Exactly how so? What lies have I told?

You are just posting to try and make yourself feel better because i made you look like an idiot.

YOU fail again.

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If you want to get banned all you have to do is question and disagree with betanews... They don't like that too much.

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What planet are you from dude? Seriously?
The day you drag me down to your level is the day I ****en shoot myself.
I cannot believe you are not even remotely aware of the bulls*** you type up here to share? Noone backs you up yet MANY people pull you up when you talk s***.
You do the maths and work out what crap you spew. Everyone else already knows
You dont have the slighest bit of common sense in your blood

http://www.betanews.com/...ack_overflow/1196111421
You take a stab at someone for using a windows PC yet you are using one yourself. Cant live without it huh?
http://www.betanews.com/...2_on_Tuesday/1191256215
Very good example for people to see just how high you rate on the stupidity chart. That thread is a utter embaressment for you. Got stuck in a holy crusade loop of defending yourself when you clearly ****ed up.

Every bloody thread is M$ this and M$ that too.. I agree with holywood. I doubt your married or even old enough to marry.
Rethink your life, it will pass your eyes very quickly if you stay an angry little troll (notice how you like to call others trolls when you are the one who came in the thread with the bulls*** guns firing?). Others here are perfectly capible of debating against the flow, why arent you?

You had the PERFECT chance to make holywood look like an idiot with the wireless instead you completely ignored it and played along with it when someone else pointed it out a day later. We all know you would have jumped at the chance to correct someone else’s mistake especially when it’s a critical chance for you. Thus it’s REALLY easy to see you are lying about owning a PS3, there’s no chance in hell anyone would have missed that chance.

And let’s start with the 360. You mention one of the reasons you sold it was because there was no games. Yet when the xbox 360 was launched you would have known that (was a very well known fact at the time) AND known what games were coming out. Yet you still got one only to sell it later?

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2 funny that Sony "claims" numbers are wrong. They aren't fighting Toshiba and MS will provide hardcore numbers and not bow down to fanboi or forum trolls. I wouldn't be surprised if they did outsell the POS3. I have both consoles and choose the MS version because of dependibility with compatability. The fact that there are no bugs and less problems on MS games are a big selling feature. Achievements are a much better idea and their online system is more fluid than the POS side.

P.S. Sony you may wanna try a BOGO sale to up those less than impressive numbers or provide some sort of bloray player stat. Its funny that your using the feedback from the signup process to sque the numbers.

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how about 1 year and not 1+

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It would be surprising if GTA on the M$ 360 did not sell better than the PS3 version since they have a larger install base due to their year+ head start.

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how about 1 year and not 1+

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The 360's install base is also much larger because the 360 has a far superior game library. If the PS3 had better games than the 360, it would probably have made up the difference pretty quickly.

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I don't see Nintendo complaint they sell fewer systems than the 360? If the system is good, people will buy it. PS has a fan base, yet, PS3 failed because there is just no games. After 1.5 years, there still hardly any games in the market.

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el dingo is to scared to admit that.

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The M$ 360 came out over a year before the PS3, hence the year+. Are you saying it came out exactly 365 days apart? Because that would be false.

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How is it "far superior"? The PS3 has just as many if not more games than the M$ 360 had at this point in its life. remember, the M$ 360 has been around a year+ longer than both the PS3 and Wii.

Sony's biggest problem has been the pricing. The inclusion of a Blu-ray player is great, but the added cost has slowed the PS3's uptake considerably.

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pitdingo2, where are you getting the year + from?

360 released - nov 2005
ps3 and wii - nov 2006

where is the year plus? stop saying that, it is retarded.

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1 year, 1 year 1 day, 11 months 15 days.... Whatever!

This is the nature of new systems. The PS2 had crap when it launched... look at it now.

The 360 had crap when it launched, look at it now.

The PS3 had crap when it launched(well Resistance was actually really good), but look at it now.

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Huh? I didn't know the 360 was gay.

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"The PS3 had crap when it launched(well Resistance was actually really good), but look at it now."

...still crap?

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and i didnt know you sucked d i c k s !

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Were they released on the same day in November? Nope. Therefore, "year+" is valid. Sorry you do not like it.

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That's real nice.

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