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Microsoft Origami: Mobile PC, Runs XP

By Nate Mook, BetaNews

March 2, 2006, 11:08 AM

As expected, Microsoft on Thursday revealed a few new hints about its much-hyped Origami Project, which is expected to launch in the form of an ultra-portable PC with touch screen and media capabilities. However, details of the project are still sketchy and Microsoft is remaining cryptic.

The "week 2" update on origamiproject.com expands the questions offered last week, saying "wondering where to find me?," "i am everywhere you are, but never in the way" and "who am i?" The statements reinforce the idea of Origami as a small portable computer.

Viewing the HTML source code to the site additionally shows the following text: "Origami Project: the Mobile PC running Windows XP."

The final week of hints will be posted to the site on March 9. Microsoft has not said when it plans to fully detail the effort, but a number of analysts have already been briefed on Origami.

Some speculate Microsoft will simply offer a platform for hardware partners to build devices upon, providing the software and underlying technology design. Such a move would be similar to the approach the Redmond company has taken with Tablet PCs and Portable Media Centers.

A purported video of the product has helped to further feed the rumor mill. Microsoft admits the video of the portable PC is legit, but says it was an early concept.

"The full details aren't there but a picture is starting to take shape. Expect more speculation this week, which also means more buzz," commented Jupiter Research vice president Michael Gartenberg. "All of a sudden MSFT isn't looking quite the same as it was a few weeks ago."

However, such buzz has also led to concern that Origami may fall short of expectations. Microsoft evangelist and its most public blogger, Robert Scoble, warned last week that customers might feel let down when an official announcement is made if the hype gets too big.

"My expectation is that Origami Project, whatever it is, may not be easily defined--initially, anyway. That would be consistent with some other Microsoft products (like Outlook 10 years ago) or life changing products (like DVRs and Blackberries) that pretty much defied explanation," remarked Jupiter Research senior analyst Joe Wilcox.

"How does a company promote a product or technology that is difficult to define? One approach is to make big aspirational promises, which is exactly Microsoft's approach. But making big promises carries great risk, too."

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By ActiveNick

edited Mar 4, 2006 - 2:02 PM

Hi folks. I have blogged about the Origami quite a bit already since I was at the Tablet PC Partner briefing in redmond where Microsoft introduced this new concept for “Ultra Mobiles” devices, or “Lifestyle Devices”. You can find out more at http://www.infusionblogs...ive/2006/03/02/393.aspx and http://www.infusionblogs...ive/2006/02/13/303.aspx. I was also quoted by Mary Jo Foley of the Ziff Davis’ Microsoft watch about the Microsoft origami project at http://www.microsoft-wat...2/0,2180,1933439,00.asp.
Hope this helps answer some of your questions. I have revealed as much as I could without breaking my NDA.
Cheers.

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By hondaman

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 6:51 PM

Does it run linux?

I can imagine a whole slew of cool mod opportunities with this thing.

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By hondaman

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 6:50 PM

Does it run linux?

I can see some cool mod opportunities with this thing.

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By Kramy

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 7:04 PM

No. See GP2X.

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By mich098

edited Mar 3, 2006 - 12:22 PM

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By ds0934

edited Mar 2, 2006 - 9:53 PM

If it can't replace my iPod, PSP and Blackberry.... AND... will be more compact.... AND... is cheaper: I won't even look at it.

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By wincement

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 4:22 PM

You want it to do all that, be smaller, and be cheaper, or you won't even look at it?

Would you like the platter to be silver or gold when they serve the world on it?

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By rijp

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 3:02 PM

Gee, why don't you include your calculator, expresso machine, and toothbrush while you are at it.

your PSP can replace the iPod and the Blackberry, and the PSP is compact, and it is cheaper..

You aren't even smart enough to recognize that this is comparing apples (no pun) and oranges, so what is the use in even explaining.

They could give you EVERYTHING you need, and you will STILL find a problem with it. Its people like you that leave stupid remarks about beta software, and why we can't get good ratings on quality software, because you will complain the package was hard to open, and that's why you gave it a lower score.

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By GoodThings2Life

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 4:17 PM

I know I shouldn't nitpick such a detail but I never got the apples/oranges thing... they're both fruit, afterall... it's just a matter of big picture comparison. *grin*

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By xoineg

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 10:24 AM

They said it was the size of a paperback book. Now that’s biggggg. I wish they could build something like a sidekick, with a bigger screen and keyboard as well as a touch screen and a few GB of storage. Anyway, for those that are not use to expending money for the newest devices, this may seem like a waste of money, but if you are one of those technology oriented guys, who has the wallet to match their need for cool toys, then go ahead otherwise stick to your walmart buying habits…. :P

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By JacenSolo

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 12:09 AM

I have no idea what Blackberry is, but if it's running XP, I'm sure it can easily replace your iCrap.

The PSP is another matter. Playstation Portible, like the Gameboy Advance (GBA), is a pure gaming platform AFAIK, and can't be easily replaced by a multi-function device such as this.

But by the looks of it, it WILL be more compact... But again, I dunno about cheeper.

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By ds0934

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 9:57 AM

Wow, you must be disconnected from the world. You don't know what a Blackberry is? You haven't been visiting many tech web sites, or news web sites for that matter. The patent fight with NTP and all that. Oh well. Seems odd you would bother to post here and not be aware of what a blackberry is. I don't have an iPod. The comment is simply that all these "almost-everything" devices stop short of really replacing everything else because they never seem to do 100% of what the others already do. The PSP is cool, and it is NOT a pure gaming console, but too clunky to carry around jogging or anything active. Sure, you can carry it around and sit down to use it, but not as portable as a Blackberry. PSP plays movies, surfs the web, plays MP3's, views pictures, and plays games. I don't think Origami is going to be more compact than a Blackberry, so it's not going to be on my list.

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By Paradise-FH-

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 5:10 PM

he also continues to point out the usa is not a superpower in nearly every thread for some reason. i'm not sure at this point if it's disconnection or general ignorance.

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By Kramy

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 7:03 PM

If the US were a superpower everyone would be sucking up and trying to not piss them off, ala China. While there are small countries that avoid annoying anything with "States of America" in the name, there are also large countries that don't give a s***.

The US has a massive economy. Power though?...hmmm...Power is quite subjective.

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By mobile.army

edited Mar 2, 2006 - 4:26 PM

"Origami Project: the Mobile PC running Windows XP."

Why in the world is Microsoft toting something running Windows XP if they're about to release Vista in x number of flavors in just a few months? Somebody's got some 'splainin' to do!

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By shy_one

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 1:28 AM

Easy everything already runs on XP and not properly tested for Vista and XP is not that bad.

I just hope that when they do release this thing battery life better be 5+ hours i would find that reasonable but if the screen size is anything like the video below i can only see getting around 2 hours.

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By templar™

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 9:52 PM

I think the reason is Vista's hardware requirements are too high for a mobile device.

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By heat_fan1

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 12:37 AM

I don't think so. It should be able to run Vista without Aero. What would happen if this thing was released next year? Would it still be running XP? I agree, using XP is an interesting move, but I suppose they wanted to get them out before Vista will be available.

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By AntiochMedia

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 9:01 PM

They should release this running Vista, or a Vista CE/Mobile Vista type OS to focus on cross promotion of Vista.

XP was so 2002.

I watched the video link on rapidshare posted below... neat ... Perhaps Microsoft are doing this to beat the $100 Laptop people with a $400 Microsoft unit...

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By aredo

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 8:11 PM

It should cost as much as a PDA to not be a flop like the Tablet PC was.

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By wincement

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 4:25 PM

I'm not sure the Tablet PC has flopped. Its adoption has been slow to be sure, but it's still gaining popularity and becomes more practical all the time.

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By Geist

edited Mar 2, 2006 - 5:56 PM

What is peaking my curiousity, is the usage of an ancient oriental artform as a Codename. The corallation is what technology has done to Origami, a tradition that almost no Japanese youth knows. Origami has been replaced by thousands of technology gadgets, game systems, and portable media devices.

Technology-wise, this device seems to be Microsoft's answer to the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet (http://www.nokiausa.com/770), and we all know Microsoft's motivation for making such a move with such a strong marketting edge.

Yes it may be interesting to know what Microsoft is up to this time. But on the same token, save your money, save your braincells, and make sure tomorrows youth doesn't replace tradition with technology.

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By OafyC

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 5:51 PM

How are the prices on flash based hard drives? I would assume this would use those. I remember seeing one that had 70+ gigs in a 2.5" drive, but the price would probably be high. Samsung has 1.8" flash drives, but last I read they only held 8 gig.

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By Kramy

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 6:55 PM

It's possible to make huge capacity flash drives, but think of the expense! A flash drive is presumably different technology than a memory card, but if you layered tons of 4GB memory cards you're looking at thousands of dollars to reach that high capacity in such a small space.

So yes, I'm sure a company could do it, but not at a $500, $1000, or even $2000 price tag.

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By wincement

edited Mar 3, 2006 - 4:39 PM

8GB sounds like a good amount for a portable computer like this.

I certainly don't see it having 70+ since most laptops don't even have that much.

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By xyexz

edited Mar 2, 2006 - 3:36 PM

I think this device would answer a lot of "wants" and "needs" from various people but when I see such a thin and light device with such a huge lcd screen that's nice enough to see outside in the sun, (like shown in the videos), I think of poor battery life and high costs.
Let's hope that this "indescribable" device doesn't come with a "indescribable" cost.

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By GoodThings2Life

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 5:14 PM

The rumor mill has been buzzing with less than $500 price tags... we'll see.

As for battery life, you hit the nail on the head. That's the number one factor for me right now.

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By heat_fan1

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 3:26 PM

It's very interesting that they put that "Mobile PC running Windows XP" in the source code. It definitely shows that they want people to figure out what it is. More details would be nice!!

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By GoodThings2Life

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 3:24 PM

I know I posted the original link, but I tend to believe it when Microsoft says that the video circulating isn't the product and that it was an early concept.

Still, I enjoy knowing it's some kind of new mobile PC... and I can't wait to get the rest of the story.

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By heat_fan1

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 3:08 PM

If Origami is in fact this mini Tablet-PC/supersized PDA, it's EXACTLY what I've been waiting for. What I want is something that I can take class/meeting notes on, carry everywhere for contacts/calendar/talks (Outlook), watch movies on in a car/plane, and other such portable things. A PDA sounds good, but I'm not crazy about the small screens and basically all they'd do is give me the organizer benefits. A tablet PC certainly covers everything, except the carrying it around everywhere part. Even the smallest Tablet PCs still weigh 3 pounds at the least.

So...what I'm looking for, and what this looks like may be, is a slate Tablet PC with about a 7" screen, that weighs under probably 1.5 pounds. Hopefully they pull through and this is it.

The thing is, Microsoft is certainly creating a LOT of hype with this. I mean, they're creating hype about creating hype (with the weekly updates). This better be the best thing since sliced bread (almost literally), or it's going to be a huge letdown. I sure hope we don't see another Apple announcement, because that was sure a waste of our time.

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By xoineg

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 2:13 PM

I have seen the video and also heard that it should be smaller now, but still it will be big compared to an ipod and PSP. I don’t think it will change our lives since it will probably be an oversize device. Battery power and storage capacity is important as well as what type of cpu it will have. Microsoft may be trying to create the type of interest that a new apple product gets, but still falls short when you have to keep guessing week after week.

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By Hypo

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 12:24 PM

http://video.google.com/...amp;q=microsoft+origami

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By shy_one

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 11:56 PM

the new Microsoft ipod lol http://video.google.com/...98&q=genre%3Acomedy

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By Kramy

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 6:42 PM

Awesome! =D

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By Second Shadow

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 1:42 PM

So, how exactly is this different from a super-sized PDA?

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By xoineg

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 2:20 PM

I think the difference will be that you can run windows xp and applications that you can find in a regular pc. I have read reports that it will weight about 1lb, which makes it very heavy still. I can't imagine anyone walking around with one of those thing on the subway...Unless they make a palm size pda that has the same processing power as a laptop and that can run the same software. There have been attempts at doing something like this, but usually those devices end up costing a lot and the processing power is not great either.(http://msmobiles.com/news.php/2550.html)

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By frankwick

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 2:14 PM

I'm sure the OS will be applied to many devices. Thus, some will be PDA sized, some smaller, some larger.

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By frankwick

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 12:12 PM

I've seen the video and the gadget is very cool. In 2001 I was in talks with Sony (at my old company) about a portable pen/touch-pad device that could control your home as you walked around with it. You could 'dock' it and it would become a typcial PC with a keyboard/mouse. It was home network centric but has great promise. To my knowledge, it never made it to market.

Origami reminds me of that product but much newer and sleeker. I'm sure it uses the media center technology to estend entertainment througout.

Also, I'm sure someone will make one ipod sized. This could be very interesting.

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By theone320

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 12:08 PM

k if you are interested in what Origami is:
Its a new kind of mobile PC.
See here
http://rapidshare.de/fil...449/msorigami.mpeg.html
PS I got it from somewhere else but I dont want MS to remove the link (They did it with another website)

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By Ishtumba

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 11:49 AM

It's Windows 98 TE! ;p

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By bakura

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 11:25 AM

It looks more network related to me. Like global WiFi service or phone service.

But what do I know? It could easily be a portable device/platform. I guess we will all see in another week.

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By KSzostek

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 11:23 AM

One approach is to make big aspirational promises, which is exactly Microsoft's approach. But making big promises carries great risk, too."

Microsoft are where they are today because they are great at marketing and taking risks.

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By Hellcat_M

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 3:33 PM

Also MS is there today because they're great at marketing. Look at this Origami project, they have everyone waiting on bated breath to see what it is, they have all the tech online magazines talking about it plus on top of it they brought it out at the same time Apple had a new project and it overshadowed it.

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By aredo

posted Mar 2, 2006 - 8:15 PM

Wrong. Microsoft are where they are today thanks to Clinton help to have IBM and OS/2 kicked out of the market and the Democrats help to make Microsoft the monopoly they are today. Microsoft are what they are today thanks to all the gang mafia style things they have done as it has been made public during the DoJ Vs Microsoft trial which caused many smaller businesses to close and go bankrupt.

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By Hellcat_M

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 3:27 PM

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard in m life. MS was a monopoly before Clinton and he didn't do anything to stop IBM from bringing out OS/2, IBM did that themselves. Plus its the republicans that are known for strongholding look at Bush.

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By ds0934

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 1:03 PM

You're either being sarcastic or stupid. Difficult to tell from your post. Regardless, suck as they might, MS owes their status to "US" for buying their products. If you don't like them, don't buy their products. Convince your employer (if you even have a job, that is) not to use MS products also. Good luck!

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By -PK-

edited Mar 2, 2006 - 10:13 PM

Go back to your hole, troll!

If a business goes bankrupt it's because they don't have outstanding products or services to compete in this bloated market. There're many companies out there that have managed to stay on the market and be recognized for what they offer and how they offer it.

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By ds0934

posted Mar 3, 2006 - 1:01 PM

yep. MS makes mice, game consoles, wireless products (re-brand), online services, partnerships, oh yeah, and software. If all you make is one of those and you intend to compete, you're an idiot unless you have a ton of capital behind you or you don't care about earning a living from it.

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