So... I opened http://spaces.live.com in Mozilla, clicked the search and got a great error: 'Missing Framework'.

If Microsoft wants to copy and compete, they should at least be cross-browser compliant.

Doug
http://www.douglaskarr.com

Works fine with my installation of Firefox, from your error message it sounds like you might need a .NET framework.

Wow...you obviously have never heard of .NET framework, have you?

Please try to verify your information before posting it as fact...if nothing else just to maintain your own reputation.

Perhaps a better error message *might* be in order.

heh

Sorry but YOU should have verified your assessment of the error before assuming that "Framework" referred to the .NET Framework. The error actually refers to a set of JavaScript functions which are shared by pages on the site as a common a "framework." The error is caused by people who have either disabled JavaScript or are running junk like Norton Internet Security configured so that it clobbers all/some scripts.

On the other hand, I do agree with the comment that Microsoft should have displayed a clearer error message.

I had no problem getting in with FireFox. Haven't tried it with Sea Monkey.

Uffffff... guys, c'mon. Stop talking nosences and start thinking: there is NO WAY that the browser asks for .NET framework... it's talking about the javascript, but the error message sucks.

A juggernaut looking for a wall to throw itself through. Problem is, by the time it gets up to speed the wall is in a different place.

WHO CARES, WHO CARES, WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Big freaking whopped tedo. Why is this here?????? This is not news ,but a waste of time. Uh-mmmm why???? Why Damnit why. Damn this is tiresome already. Myspace this, Myspace that. WHO CARES DAMNIT. Month from now it will be something else. BAH-Humbug. Microsoft stop wasting your money on bulls*** like this myspace and spend it on making your operating systems better!!! SHEESH!!. Sorry everyone, Three strong cups of coffee. Does anyone want anything built because I can do it in about 10 minutes.

If you don't really care, then why were you reading the article? Furthermore, why did you waste your time make such a stupid comment?

Child

I'll take a new intake manifold (upper and lower) for that 94 Pontiac Bonneville I got sitting in the garage.

Let me know when it's done, I'll tell ya where to ship it.

Thanks!

it's the internet, statistically someone will care.

forget the pontiac, isn't this past the year 2000, where are my flying cars? I was promised flying cars!!

Nah. Gonna fix her up, paint her Rally Orange, give her some stripes...

heh..

She may not fly, but she'll *be* fly. ;)

Petgamer if I needed any s*** from you, I would have squeezed your head. Futhermore, it seems you wasted your time making a stupid comment about what I posted. What people want to hear is what you think about the article not about what other people have posted. Unless, you want to share what you think about the article I'm all ears. If your trying to be a smartass toward me you little piss ant, well you have came to the wrong place because I really don't give a s*** about what you think. I deal with a******s all day so you would be just be another in a long line of a******s. I stated my comment about the article because yes I did read it. If you haven't read the article well then keep your trap shut!!

Can anyone say monopoly?

Last I checked, fair competition is the basic element of capitalism. It's not a monopoly.

So...if I start a company, create something that really catches on, and nobody creates products to compete with my products--is that my fault, or their's?

Apple is not a monopoly, because there is competition--it just hasn't been as strong as it could have been. Microsoft underestimated apple's iPod.

On the other hand, Apple underestimated Microsoft Windows way back and--well, I could argue that it is APPLE's fault that Microsoft is a monopoly. That's why, IMHO, the "anti-monopoly" regulations/laws are total BS. They discriminate against a company strictly based on the fact that nobody opposed them when they were small.

I'm sure this comment'll bring some exciting fireworks to this thread again...it was beginning to get dull :)

P.S: Using illegal means to become a monopoly is another matter altogether...but that's something the existing laws can deal with.

Let me point out the first flaw in your comment.

"So...if I start a company"

just kidding :-D

heh

Ouch. Harsh, man. ;P

more like why cant they do something good for just once.

I agree that MySpace needs to update their servers, but at least when MS has the same issues, they'll be able to take all the revenue that they will have after charging everyone to download the Office 07 Beta to upgrade the servers. Or better yet, they will start charging everyone $2.00 to modify the HTML on their personal site.

Go Bill Go!!!

We can all thanks MS for create competitions. Myspace is so slow and it's not even funny. they need to either tweak their code or update their servers. they have someone invested like 600 million into it, take 10% of that will make it a better site. Now with MS at their back, I am sure they will finally get their head out of their a$$ and work on it.

Why can't MS do something original..just once?

why can't anyone do anything original, here here

one book for the whole world, one car model for everybody, one brand of jeans...er wait

capitalism and competition rules!

And if MS starts winning? Why we'll just cry foul, monopoly and have them share their tech secrets...wait what?

:D (there was some sarcasm in there)

They have always copied/bought other's ideas from the beginning...we all know that.

is there something original to create?

That same argument could be said about most companies and ideas. MySpace wasn't the first social system. These social blogging environments were in place back in the BBS days.

Well Ms is Technlogy Leader so how can they create their new concept
they do that which market need

Oh yes.. because there are just so many "original" search engines, MP3 sites, adult websites, shopping sites, etc etc etc... give me a break.

Alpha has got it right, spot on!

Sounds like Apple buying NeXT to me...

you should clarify BBS, most people (basher) don't know what BBS is. :)

Bulletin Board System.

Used to run a few back in the day.

Citadel-86, baby!

Yeah, why do they have to compete with everyone? Competition SUCKS!

/sarcasm

Heh... I guess I just showed my age. :)

Your age? Not only did I run BBSs (several) I wrote two of them.

heh

Like MS is the only company that does this?

Downloaded an ancient copy of Citadel-86 a few months back.

After having used it and run it for 4 years back in the day, I thought it'd be simple to get back into it.

Damn thing confused the hell out of me when I tried to configure it. (For the record, Citadel-86 did not have an "install" app...or hell, even a config app. It's all buried in 2 or 3 config files, even the bauds, init strings, etc...)

I guess I got rid of all that information and replaced it.

Kind of a bummer though. Not that it'd ever take off again like it did back then, but still...

Nostalgia's a b****.

WWIV

Dark Crusaders running back in 1990-1996 Baltimore , MD

Synchronet is probably the best BBS package out there today IMHO. My old BBS code can hook into it when it's set up in door mode (it's written in perl).

Forums like this bring back some of the more "personal" communication like we had back in the BBS days.

Then there was FIDO.. heh

I've been thinking back trying to remember something Microsoft did first. It's really not easy, Bill didn't even invent Basic, just implemented it for a micro.

Ok I got one, "Passport", Microsoft was the first company I can remember to offer to consolidate all your Internet passwords and financial transactions under their web services... What ever happened to that?

Can anyone think of another?

I recall playing with Synchronet back then. I'll have to look at it again.

We had a ring of BBSes in our area, all connected, all using Citadel. It was PITA, and I still don't know why it was decided we go with *that* BBS software, but the monthly bashes made it all worth it. ;)

learn exex
exex turtle

learn nitfol
nitfol turtle

say to turtle "follow me"

Edit: I really can't believe that no one replied to this.

heh

I ran VBBS back in the day, was a co-sysop for multiple boards including some running Maximus, Wildcat, and Sync.

Spent some time before that co-oping king bbs, and a system I put together on 300BPS running ColorBBS (I think it was called) on a 1MHz dual floppy C64 (bleeding edge even by today's standards heh).

Wanted to do something "new" so I whipped up a front end for Linux that I called Fusion which in it's final days looked like MajorBBS (my fav BBS interface). I sold that code to a buddy for a few bucks, and a few years later I wrote a much more powerful BBS that I called Photon. That code was out in the public eye for a few months but by then it was 2002ish so I let it die. I still have it here somewhere, I think I even have a VM with it configured and running (complete with doors and the tradewars game server) somewhere.

I killed it at LORD, Yankee Trader, Operation Overkill and many more of the days classic online titles. heh

I just realized we discussed this about a year ago heh.

btw, cafe.aitvo.com (start -> run -> "telnet cafe.aitvo.com" -> ok for the never-bbsed-before folks) lives again (virtually) heh

ooh WWIV, that's as classic as RBBS.

heh

WTF?

They invented a lot of things!

Messages from dead folks.

The mouse! Who can forget this one?

They invented the 640K limit, they were at the forfront of this tech.

The invented the artificial need to have Windows sold on nearly every computer in the world.

They invented the need for only one browser, surely you remember this innovation.

They invented those little messages that said: "Non-fatal error detected: Error number {pick one}. Please contact Windows 3.1 beta support. Press enter to exit or C to continue."

flame on!

Note: Nearly all of the above comments are untrue. Read with a sarcastic overtone.

Thanks.

heh

*sigh*

We'll have to get a LORD and TW2k BBS set up one of these days. ;)

Maybe a little BRE too.

(Run a search for LOGD on google, someone put a rather interesting facsimmile of LORD on the web)

Hit that link, you'll find BRE, TW2K, and LORD.

;-)

I'm serious, what has Microsoft invented, really?

I know there are some font rendering techniques they won't let anyone else use.

I was thinking ActiveX, but somebody else has patent on that. Anyway I think we should limit the list to technologies that make things better. So ActiveX wouldn't count anyway.

How about the secret, server, network protocols? Just because it's secret doesn't mean it's an invention. I'll wait to hear what Neil Barret thinks about it.

Check out Black Nova Traders for a modern descendant of TW2000, it isn't quite the same; but then again, neither are we.

Mmm....

Yeah, baby....that's the stuff.

17 calls?

You set this up yesterday? *grin*

Been a while, I'll have to get more used to TW2k when I have more time. Totally forgot how to buy new ships / increase amount of fighters...

I restored it all from an older backup into a new pair of virtual machines, and made them prestine yesterday, yeah. LOL

I wrote the engine that it all rides on about a year and a half, maybe 2 years ago. It's been sitting idle for a while on a CD.

I still need to change Aitvo to Fewt, though it matters not really. Perhaps I'll create a betanews style theme.

Hey nate, think I could get a link? heh

I meant right now when I said "lives again". heh

Just stuffed the code on fileforum, hopefully it's approved and used by someone somewhere.

'll be snagging a copy.

(BTW: Can't see BRE or LORD...)

I'll have to grab the doorgames from ya at some point.

(Just found LORD and BRE on the synchronet section....)

http://www.geocities.com...w7005/Photon-0.7.tar.gz

Of course, now I have to run a Linux VM in my Windows XP remote Desktop.

That's just...

...wrong.

(heh...tried to read the readme in notepad. Now I have a headache... I'll wait to finish reading it until I get the VM up and running)

LOL

I haven't tested it recently, but you may be able to get it running in cygwin. One of these days I'll try to make it work again, I know I had to change a few little things years ago when I was playing with it.

wordpad heh

Too busy playing TW2k. ;)

very nice, wonder how many peeps I could get to play.

Probably anyone who reponded in *this* thread....

BTW: What the hell are you doing on that machine? IT hangs for like 30 seconds every so often.

Of course, it has *nothing* to do with the fact that I am sharing my DSL connection, connecting ona telnet session via RDP over that same connection, *and* downloading....

My boy is on it playing video games LOL. We rebooted it 10 minutes ago because of it hanging every 30 seconds.

:P

*sigh*

Guess I'll just have to suffer along.... *grin*

Still faster than it was in the 80s lol.

Is it still slow?

/goes and looks

Nah. It's good. Would be better if I could find a damn class 9 port. ;P

Oh, I bet it FLIES now. heh

:p

Out of turns 'til tomorrow. Gonna waste all of those looking for a class9 as well, likely.

*grin*

I wanna new ship!!! (lord knows I've only got 70 holds on this one...)