RSSMicrosoft's Xbox Hacking Fix Backfires
By the Betanews Staff | Published November 3, 2006, 3:36 PM
With the Fall software update for the Xbox 360, a few gamers got an unexpected surprise along with 1080p support - an error code. The message "ERROR CODE E71" has appeared on approximately one percent of all consoles, essentially preventing Xbox Live use or gameplay. Microsoft has acknowledged the error, which seems to be caused by the company's attempts to prevent hacking of the console.
However, it also seems to affect those who may have had repairs done to their systems, which would require possible modifications. At least one user to the 1up.com gaming site reported that he had just received his console back and downloaded the update only to receive the error code. Microsoft is working to ensure the issue does not affect additional consoles.
i hope the expensive of having to fix these makes up for the gained profits of stopping a hack..
problem is tho, not all xboxes are the same exact hardware are they?
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|Microsoft is a bunch of idiots too. I hope this stupid update to appease the idiots who only buy products that contain buzzwords completely backfires.
You don't need this update for any reason other that for MS to cram more control into your console.
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|The buzzword you refer to is 1080P?
Why blame Microsoft? Blame Sony for this one. Microsoft is simply trying to level the playing field for users who don't have a clue and listen to whatever Sony tells them.
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|1%. Just wow. Can you imagine if 1% of machines just died from a Windows Update? Seems small, but it's likely over 3 million machines that MS would have to deal with...
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|Why would anyone want the 1080p update anyways? Theres not a TV in the world that can actually display 1080p/24.
www.thedvdwars.com
The truth is out there
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|Sure there is. Now stop spamming your site.
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|No there isn't, you have no idea what you are talking about. By the way, I have nothing to do with thedvdwars.com, I just like to shove the sales figures in the face of all the Sony fanboys.
Now, you show me one TV that displays 1080p at 24 frames per second on the actual screen and I will buy it for you. All 1080p/24 signals are converted to 1080i/30 on all sets as of right now.
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|Neither is true! But there are many that can inverse-telecine the 1080i, get the 24p out of it, and display it in 1080p (60p with progressive 2:3). The TV obviously does not scan at 24p! Duh!
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|i can take a 640x480 picture and make it cover your whole desktop background, but it's still just a 640x480 picture. (i think that's what he's trying to say)
point is, there is NO true 1080p media that you can watch.
but, there ARE tv's capable of 1920x1080p.
http://www.sonystyle.ca/...1&productId=1003012
be the $hit for hooking up to my computer.
:-)
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|No even mentioning the DRM that Microsoft added to the latest dashboard update..
Seems everyone's beloved Microsoft is showing it's true colors..
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|DOH!!!
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|Where's Mark Gillespie now? Always whining like a little girl that Betanews is biased and never has any bad news about the xbox?
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|I know , LOL.
But this is exactly why I've avoided xbox live. I like free games, and Live is not worht the extra expense.
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|Live is well worth the $50 a year. If you've played it, you'd realize that.
We'll see if the PS3 makes free worth it.
And if by free you are talking PC games, that's fine and totally different.
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|Ps3 wont be free, research a little.
And I'm not arguing that Live isnt worht it for $50 a year. I'm just saying I'd rather have free games vs the option of playing on Live.
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|PS3 will likely have some free games - but I agree - over all it will probably cost more then live. Problem for someone interested in it right now though is that there really is no way to know for sure what online games may cost you.
So where do you get the free online gaming? PC Gaming?
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|"I like free games"
not
I like free online games.
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|If you mod a game console, you can load the ROMs for many games onto it and play them without buying the originals.
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|check his website
http://www.gillespieinvestigations.com/
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|or perhaps it's:
http://www.gillespie.de/
But either career is better than most of the grocery store stackers that post here...
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|you don't have to pay for xbox live either if your goal to play online for free. ever heard of X-Kai? while it is not 100% xbox live substitution it is still a legal way to play online. it works for PS2 also, although i'm not sure how many PS2 games uspport system link
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|X-Kai. if you have home network established (with xbox or PS on it, obviously) you run a x kai server on your pc - the software gives you visibility what games are been played at the moment. if you see the game you would like to play you start it on your box and chose multiplayer->system link . the PC will tunnel you to the game.
for this to work you have to have Kai client running on your modded xbox and the game obviously needs to support system link gaming
my explanation obviously sucks, sorry.
here is their website for more info
http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/
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|I have seen that program. I'd much rather pay $50 a year and have it all nice and simple than deal with it ever again.
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|well you asked about free online gaming, i replyed with what i do . for me it doesn't make sence to pay 50 for live since i would not use it that much ( i don't play online often anyways). obviously it is your choice to use it or not and you actually may get more out of "live" service then me.
it does take a bit of effort to install and run X Kai and it is limited to network/system link enabled games. but it is still an option
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|Are you saying your a grocery store sacker?
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|I'm one of those unfortunate 1% that got the dreaded "E71" error codes. I just got mine back from repairs because of the 4 red light ring of death and now I've got to send it in AGAIN to fix this issue. Has Microsoft offered a solution for those of us affected without us having to send it in?
Really frustrates me! I just had to wait a couple weeks for the earlier repair and now I'm faced with another couple weeks of waiting. Microsoft needs to get their act together!
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|Unfortunately, you already updated so you must return it to M$. :'(
Always wait a couple of days to find out if there are issues. Then update.
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|The problem with that is that you will be disconnected from Xbox Live until you download the update. And with all the new features coming out, who wasn't excited and downloaded it right away? It's a shame some people got screwed though.
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|Ya, but today I had a lock-up that wasn't happening before, too. Hopefully the get a quick fix. I'm ok by that.
On the bright side, the update allows for video streaming now, whether you have Media Center or not. Big happy on that!!
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|What this article does NOT say is how many of that 1% was suppose to get it.
Without knowlege of what the error means, I am not going to pass judement on Microsoft for a minor mistake, because it is easily fixed.
3 day shipment of xbox cd, that updates firmware, problem solve.d
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|"The message "ERROR CODE E71" has appeared on approximately one percent of all consoles"
Are you saying "What percentage of the 1 percent actually got the error?". If so, please re-read the sentence before I slap you round the face with some common sense.
If you're asking how many people Microsoft intended to get the error, then duh, none.
If it's something else, your sentence was far too ambiguous to understand.
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|I would have to wait 3 days to wait for the fix so that I can start using my xbox again.
Hell no!!!! Unacceptable.
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|"If you're asking how many people Microsoft intended to get the error, then duh, none."
It definitely was intended for firmware mods, it just unintentialy targeted people that had 360's with swaped drives that came back from repairs.
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|He's asking - out of the 1%, how many actually deserved it (i.e. have a hacked box)
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|If you're asking how many people Microsoft intended to get the error, then duh, none.
From the article, "Microsoft has acknowledged the error, which seems to be caused by the company's attempts to prevent hacking of the console."
This would suggest that some people were supposed to get it.
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|"The message "ERROR CODE E71" has appeared on approximately one percent of all consoles..."
That's a big oops, Microsoft. 1% of 3 million is 30,000, so this isn't a tiny problem. I guess after all the constant blows Sony is taking, Microsoft decided to give Sony a Christmas gift early this year :D
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|We'll isn't this going to primary affect people with the firmware hack? If anything, people might have to buy another 360 becuase they were retarded and went on Live in the first place.
Check this out
http://www.xbox-scene.co.../EEykFEVpEZylAPOKEz.php
Only affects certain configurations. Anyone with the Hitachi drive should be fine.
"We then simply converted his X33.bin to the new X42a.bin (Xtreme v4.2 Fast Boot Mode as Default) and reflashed (and for those that may ask using a VIA 6421L card and Xecuter Connectivity Kit v2 with a seperate Molex PSU (wouldnt work with PC power - had to power up the drive first before PC - of course you could use power from the 360 itself too if you wish)
The Xbox 360 now boots just fine - both offline and on live with originals and backups."
Easy fix.
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http://www.xbox-scene.co.../EEykukuuuuEnUqCRhz.php
E61 completely different, sorry.
So yeah, your screwed until you get the system replaced if you updated your system when the update was released.
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|I did the upgrade on both of my 360s which both have the latest respected DVD firmware.. Never got an error.. One has Hitachi and the other has Samsung..
Face it... The security on the 360 is just as bogus as the security on XP or Vista. It will be cracked and M$ will never prevent it. They might as well forget about trying to stop those of us with first run consoles and stop it from future made consoles off the line. This would be done by creating a non-flashable DVD firmware. The only thing they could do is burn a key into the drive and that's it.. It might prevent future hacks, but nothing is a guarantee..
As for the E71.. I don't recall seeing people with hacked firmware getting that error. It was the dreaded E66 which was fixed by patching the Samsung Xtreme firmware with the original model # from the orignal stock firmware, which the 360 is now looking for..
I've been seeing the E71 taking out brand new right out of the box 360s... and those that have been recently returned from repair..
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