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Aaron,
Did you know that when you point words like "DUH" at other people it reflects on You? Nobody knows everything.
Riley
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|Yes, that is true ... which is why when i downloaded it the night before last, and noticed that... I did not post anything. But it is true that it does its getting closer, give Aaron a break. ;)
Justin Jenkins
eFront
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|Hi, will there be a final version of Mozilla that I can get without Netscape once its done? I downloaded Nescape 6 beta, and I'm already getting tired of looking at their icons at the bottom telling me where I should shop and spend my free time. I also don't like the icons at top on top. I know you can remove some of them but others like "net2phone" and "my netscape" you can't. Even though I'm not a big fan of Microsoft I'll stick with IE 5, at least they did junk up their browsers trying to sell their stuff.
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|Thanks for the information!
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|Actually NS6.0 is skinnable , I am running the Aphordite skin manager on top of my 6.0 , slightly less annoying than the default UI. IE is skinnable to some extentas well if you run WinBlinds and a toolbar wallpaper :P
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|*shakes head* kids .. I run *way* more stuff than that with no problems . Oh and noting your spout about McAfee , AOL and HotDog , I would improve my mad skillz a tad bit before I opened my mouth if I were you .
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|sorry .. wrong post
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|i'm already sick of mozilla nearing this or that. give me a break. netscape sucks, mozilla is nowhere near on the horizon.
besides, will it be the browser of the masses? i dont think so, they've lost it long time ago
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|Everyone should know now....
this project has no chance of knocking off IE...what a stupid thing to think. Get over it, when Nutscrape sold out they became total s*** and will stay that way. Sorry, but face the facts.
Use whatever you want, but think logically people.
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|What an ignorant comment, you sound just like those Netscape users when Microsoft entered the browser war. Heres a quick browser test. Design a page in mozilla. now design a page in I.E. now view both those pages on different browsers and platforms. which one was so chock full of proprietary crap it didn't work on any other browsers?
think standards.
design for the web, not the browser.
use the web, not the browser.
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|I woulda agreed w/ you but you said "differant platforms" humm netscape is on WAY more platforms then IE...
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|Actually, that's what he meant.... It was a post about Mozilla advocacy. :)
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|In all the nightly builds I've looked at, the about box pointed to the next milestone. Hope this knocks IE off top spot when its done.
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|The nightly build has been M17 for weeks now.
Milestone M16 took 6 weeks to arrive after Milestone M15. M17 nightlies have a lot of problems. I would agree that Milestone 17 is quite a long way off, and, more importantly, a decent Netscape 6 well into summer. I expect to be using MIlestone 16 for a month yet. This report is as unhelpful as the one a few days ago about Explorer 5.5 gbecoming "gold"
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|http://www.mozilla.org/p...ts/seamonkey/milestones/
Update 6/28/00
Please note, the dates for M17 on this document are incorrect. It is
unlikely that M17 will be released earlier than two weeks from today.
These dates will be updated shortly.
oh well...
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|Take a look at all the crap this dude has on his computer, no wonder why so many peoples computers crash so often. "http://betanews.efront.com/~aaron/M172.gif"
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|Duh... That's what you call "using" the PC not only for gaming purposes.
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|I guess U bought Ur PC for that "calc.exe" app,m rite?
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|no d*** , i dont like games i like programs that dont kill my memory for no good reasion. i bet you got your pc to use aol and hot dog express or any thing made by Mcafee, its funny to see how people use there pc i did not need to srart any problems with you people , why would i use win2k for games?
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|use your win2k box for a litte q3a-battle and you would be astonished.
mozilla: while ms16 was quite stable , m17 nightly builds are a litte
unstable. an endless story........
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|open? I see maybe 7 apps. That's a light load for any PC.
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|I guess you don't do any development....
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|What? There is so much s*** on his screen you wouldn't know that it was a computer screen. I have (hopefully) slightly less programs installed than this but my screen looks really clean - only icons I use most often, and not an icon for every bloody window that could be opened.
However, just because I like my screen clean doesn't mean everyone does. And anyway, it looks as though he maintains his computer really well. Maybe he has a 50" monitor!
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|Hi Crap-
I alerted BetaNews about M17. Judging from your use of the English Language, you might do well to take a crash, course on the Web using your PC (lol) on sentence structure and grammar. Then you could express yourself in an intelligent manner!
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|apparently you dont know anything about the mozilla milestone cycle .. why would they take 6 weeks to go from m15 to m16 and then like 2 more weeks to add a ton of features and get to m17? i guess its your first time using a milestone then, who knows
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|Do you call this good grammar?
"...a crash, course on the..."
What's with the comma splice?
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|We can all see that he's an hypocrite to criticize someone's grammar and then make ridiculous mistakes himself, but having it pointed out again and again and again is what makes these "discussion boards" so absolutely infuriating. Of course, I'm off topic now as well, but here is my request to eFront:
Redo the article discussion code so that each visitor that thinks a particular message is stupid, ignorant, off topic or otherwise worthless, can be vote the message as such and when a certain percentage of people that have viewed the page vote for removal, the message is removed.
Anybody agree with that??
- Chris
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|The icons on the left are the Quick Launch bar. They aren't running programs. So freenard was right, there's only 7 things actually open.
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|I envision such a feature being abused -- one person decides he really doesn't like someone's comment, and makes a very large number of votes for it to be removed.
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|I agree.
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|There wouldn't be any comments left. Pro-NS person posts, Anti-MS people vote it off. Pro-OpenSource person posts, Anit-OpenSource people vote it off. We'd end up with comment removal wars.
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|Stupidear,
I suggest you read a book on composition and rhetoric before you criticize another persons mistakes in grammer.
Riley
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|I'm sorry for the "stupidear" name as it makes me guilty of my own criticism regarding ("name calling" reflecting on the "Name Caller").
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|Hi,
Back to the subject: I have tried IE & Netscape. I chose IE because; it gave me more "space" to view sites- It had no "advertisements"- And I hated the "My" this and that. I wanted a "tool", not a "cult". I use IE5.01 and Win98SE and it works as smooth as silk.
nufsed,
Riley
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|Not necessarily. You ahve to reach a threshold. A person can only vote once (and with this system that makes you log in, that is easily enforceable). Either way, not just anybody can vote a message off - you have to have a "substantial" number of votes based on the number of page views (or something like that). As for the other comment about Pro-MS vs. Anti-MS, let's assume there are 100 people that read and post. I would suggest that maybe 20 are pro-MS (hardcore) and 20 are anti-MS (hardcore) and the remaining 60 don't care or wouldn't do something as stupid as get into a post removal war. So 20 people out of 100 don't have the ability to single-handedly remove a message.
Anyway - I think the idea is good, implementation would have to be worked out... I think it would also start to actually keep the number of messages that need to be removed down to a minimum. If a user posts a lot of stupid stuff and it keeps getting removed, maybe that person will start to get more on topic and stop spamming the boards with worthless comments...?
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|Re: yes Posted by TheD2JBug on July 2nd, 2000 at 9:58PM ET
*shakes head* kids .. I run *way* more stuff than that with no problems . Oh and noting your spout about McAfee , AOL and HotDog , I would improve my mad skillz a tad bit before I opened my mouth if I were you .
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|Re: yes Posted by TheD2JBug on July 2nd, 2000 at 9:58PM ET
*shakes head* kids .. I run *way* more stuff than that with no problems . Oh and noting your spout about McAfee , AOL and HotDog , I would improve my mad skillz a tad bit before I opened my mouth if I were you .
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|In the engligh language this is incorrect grammar, "...a crash, course on the..." I don;t need to read a book to know that. Perhaps I should have quoted his whole sentence so you would better undertand my position. All I did was point out a mistake common to the internet; people are making poor arguments using even worse grammar and hiding behind false identities. I am tired of seeing newsgroups degenerating into name-calling flame wars amongst some of the most idiotic people on the internet. I would love to read one news article on BetaNews that has informative comments attached. Yours, by the way, rank in the low end towards stupidity and uselessness.
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