Hooray for opera's speed dial! FF would be the best ever though if they just did something like that.

https://addons.mozilla.o...n-US/firefox/addon/4810
enjoy

Speed dial is good - I used it for months until I found "fast dial", it's friendlier on the resources and you can have around 30 entries on the speed dial list.
https://addons.mozilla.o...n-US/firefox/addon/5721

Still slightly behind Safari with the Saft, SafariBlock and inquisitors plugins but overall a very good browser in 2nd place.

saft $12, somebody just is rich, for the functions that are free from firefox....
Not to mention firefox has 2000+ extensions, 3 for safari, how can you compare?

Simple. With Safari 3, you ONLY need three plugins. End of story. Goodbye.

Safari, overall not a bad browser that practically shares 5th place with 3 other browsers globally.

More people are still using even Firefox 1.5 than all Safari, Opera, and Mozilla users combined... Safari 3 users barely beating out users who are still using Firefox 1.0.

With most of our customers that use Macs, we usually see a Firefox icon on their desktop.

You capped the wrong word....let me fix that for ya:

Simple. With Safari 3, YOU only need three plugins. End of story. Goodbye.

I should've gotten the first beta of this. I forgot how great AdBlock+ was.

"defining a variable as a function"
On crack much? This is how Javascript has worked for aaaaages. Everything in javascript is a variable, even functions...

What they're stating and what you're stating are two different things.
Them: "Defining a variable as a function"
You : "Defining a function as a variable"

eh... look again, secret agent man.

quote: Everything in javascript is a variable, even functions...

As such, it means that functions are variables, and it makes his point correct. It does not state that, as is newly possible, variables are functions.

Or to make it more simple...
If everything is a variable, functions are variables. This does not mean that variables are functions. All cats are animals. This does not mean all animals are cats. :)

I was amazed at how fast the pages of my "home" rendered the first time.

Definitely snappier than previously.

Wow. A browser adds features and makes the news? OMG. The world is going downhill.

What was the point of moving the Home button off the main toolbar? Now I just have to put it back.

Took me a few seconds to locate that baby.

*shrug*

It's a site, not a direction (forward, back, stop, reload). I am assuming that is why, and to some degree it makes sense.

Sure, it doesn't follow the norm, but, meh... I'll get used to it.

I use a blank homepage. Didn't even notice...

I don't need a homepage... I never know where I want to go today :-)

My sentiments exactly.

me too

Exactly... now that's two buttons I have to put back on the toolbar, in addition to the New Tab button (which should be there by default in the first place).

However, I could get used to the lack of the Home button eventually, as it's one that I rarely use.

Good and simple means twice good. But there's a vice in software design described as "featuritis" which in many cases makes the user go back and downgrade to feel at ease or secure. You may find more about this here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creeping_featurism

Talking about this beta, no need to run.

I can't see anything that makes me want to rush out and get it. Extensions already take care of several of the 'new' features and I can't see anything that makes me want to change my default browser from Opera.

I changed from Opera. The number one new feature for me is the rendering engine. I only used Opera because it was the only browser that would render full pages correctly at 1600x1200 when zoomed. The new gecko engine brings FF3 up to speed in zoomed rendering. I prefer the customization that I can get with FF3 over Opera. The Download Helper extension is great, as well as forecastfox, and the all-in-one sidebar.

adblock + noscript, otherwise I would use Opera. Opera makes it fairly difficult to block stuff you don't want (adblock can block much more than ads, using regex, for example.)

Those are 2 extensions that are the primary reasons for sticking with Firefox exclusively.

Aside from still being forced to use IE for sites that only work with it, I like FF3 so far. But I'm going to wait until all the add-ons start being updated to work with it. Google Toolbar for example, things like that. Still won't load those.

Just out of curiosity what does Google toolbar do that Firefox can't do by itself?

Google Toolbar has a number of brilliant features. My favourites are the ability to send pages via gmail, or send selections of pages. Also, very cool is "find next occurence" which allows you to find the next occurrence of a search term by clicking on icons for the term that appear in the toolbar. Those two things I can't live without.

Most add-ons can be forced to work with a bit of tweaking. Download and save the add-on in .xpi format. Rename to .zip (an .xpi is just a renamed .zip file) Unzip. Edit install.rdf using notepad. look for maxVersion= and change the value to "3.9" Save install.rdf. place install.rdf back in zip archive. Rename to .xpi
Drag and drop on FF3beta3, then click install. I have gotten all my add-ons working...
BTW, thanks to the ietab forum for this tip...

I like it. I had to make a few interface changes, but otherwise the performance is astounding, reminds me of Opera! :)

I have a lot of extensions and quite a few haven't been updated for 3.0 so I'm going to hold out a little longer (and running two versions at the same time isn't good for the health). I use "Session Fix" in Firefox 2 to save the session on exit. I already use Download Statusbar. I'll wait for the RC.

try Session Manager for a FF3 substitute for Session Fix

Hated beta 1, loved beta 2 and am enjoying beta 3. Stopped using Opera as it is going downhill fast. Stopped using IE 7 as too many other folk use it. Firefox beta is now my default, hope it just continues to get better and better.

"Stopped using IE 7 as too many other folk use it"

Too many folk using IE7 mean the bad guys target it. Opera is the least targeted of the main browsers as only three people use it, and all versions after 8.50 were very ordinary. Firefox beta is only used by a few good souls at the moment, trouble is when it goes mainstream I'll have to go back to K-Meleon, only two people use that and I'm one of them.

Firefox 2 also had the ability to save sessions - it's setting in the options window!

Where? I could find no option for that.

Try looking harder -- I've been using it since release.

Edit --> Preferences

Main tab --> Startup section

When Firefox starts: "Show my windows and tabs from last time"

Enjoy.

Ah hah! Thank you. :)

Still does not load windows live mail or yahoo mail. when are they going to fix that? hopefully before the final release. mozilla is getting rather sloppy with their code as of late.

Dunno about the Live Mail thing. Yahoo apparently acknowledged a bug at their end which broke with the new Firefox, and are fixing it themselves.

yahoo mail now works like a charm :)
now beta3 scores 59% at acid3 test http://acid3.acidtests.org/ (beta2 took only 50%). now test internet explorer 7 and see what happens! :rofl:

It does load Yahoo mail just tried it.

Yahoo mail has two popup errors for me as well. I'm using the new yahoo mail interface.

Firefox 2..................50
Firefox 3 b3...............59
Internet Explorer 7........12
Opera 9.25.................46
Safari 3...................39

Just to add to that, Opera 9.50 (Kestrel) Beta Build 9789 gets 65/100, and IE6 also gets 12 (and looks utterly disastrous).

Recent Opera weekly build: 65

Firefox 3 b4 nightly build gets 60.

Newest Firefox Nightly:

67/100

"Mac OS X users may also note that Firefox 3 should try a little harder to look like a Macintosh application. There was a time when apps were graded on their ability to integrate with the Mac interface."

Well it's not a Mac application so why should it look like a Mac application?!! If the Appleheads don't like the way FF looks on their Macs, PHUCK'EM!!! They should stick with that piece of $h!t Safari. And btw that just proves that Apple people are shallow. Always basing their decisions on looks and not what's inside:-) LOL

I was sorely tempted to ignore your ill-formed and frankly pointless tirade, but I do feel the need to correct one factual inaccuracy.

Firefox *is* a Mac application. Just like it's a Windows application. And a Linux application. And on those respective platforms, Firefox tries to blend in, using native controls where possible, colour schemes that are sympathetic to the host OS, etc.

If you're such a pro-Firefox, anti-Safari zealot (and I honestly can't see why you would be), you should be glad that this is being addressed, as it may drive more users to Firefox.

First of all, Firefox is not a Mac, Linux, or Windows application (at least in principle). Is a multiplatform application. Opera in the other hand, it's a Mac application.

In the same spirit of your own answer, could you explain to me why Firefox must blend on the OS? IMHO (and I'm still convinced after reading Alex Faaborg blog), I still fail to see what is the sense of to work so hard to create a multiplataform software (don't forget that the original code was Windows-native) just to throw away to accommodate the average mentality of the Mac user.

If you need more proof of the excessive influence of Mac in Firefox development, you just had to compare the help that received Camino vs. K-Meleon or Galeon for instance....

1. If you want FF to look like a mac program you just download the Mac skin.
2. I don't see Apple making their Windows version of Safari look more like a Windows program.

Unless Firefox's debut was on the Mac, it's not an Mac Application! Firefox was originally coded for the windows platform. When Firefox was known as Phoenix in its early days it was already available on both windows and Linux. It took quite a long time for the OS X version of Firefox to joined the party.

The first platform a program is released on, I consider the native platform it was coded for. That's my definition of an native application.
All popular software will eventually become multi platform, but there's always a starting point.

So again, Firefox is NOT a Mac application! Just like Safari and iTunes are not native Windows Apps.

And I'm not anti-Safari, I just said it was a piece of $h!t browser, kinda like IE only worse.

It apparently, among the other "several" features, added the "break windowblinds" feature. Show-stopper for me, and as it's been around since Beta 1 and is still present in Beta 3, I'm willing to bet it won't ever be fixed by the Mozilla folks. Sucks major, as my Stardock subscription is lapsed, so I won't get any Windowblinds updates either... when Firefox is the one that broke things, and apparently is passing it off to Stardock to fix on their end.

Stardock hasn't made their WindowBlinds software compatible with everyone else's software applications yet. Software that causes Windows to look different is well known for breaking other programs. I'm sure Stardock will fix this bug in their software soon.

Not sure why I even respond. It just gets to me every now and then that there is no intelligence test to be allowed onto the internet.

It's folks like you, giving Windows (or for all I care other products in similar cases) a bad name. Installing 3rd party software that is seriously messing with the OS, even knowing it is out of date and expecting software coded to standard specs to be back-ported is just delusional. How large and interesting do you think is the market share of users with lapesed WB license?

I don't know what problem you are having but Windowblinds is working perfectly fine with it here.

But his complaint is that he can't use the old version without problems. Because his license is lapsed, and so he's stuck with what exists...

Regardless, expecting the FF team to recode their application with compatibility modes for every third-party application that breaks when you're using them without updates is just ludicrous.

Hi, your "favourite" feature remained unchanged since 2.0....

If anything, it's just easier to find now.