Which little wanker has got this stupid idea ?
Leave it, LEAVE IT !!!! THAT IS STUPIDEST IDEA
I HAVE HEARD ! WANKERS ! IDIOTS ! INDIANS !
Get this stupid idea off MOTHER ****ERS !!!

With love Anonymous :(((

It seems as though it will be about £2 (unless there's something slightly different in UK) - and TBH it's not a lot to cough up!

Try Audiogalaxy it is way better than Napster
www.audiogalaxy.com
and you can resume files when downloading
Current version of it is v0.601W and I can download 3 mp3 at a time and still resume them when I what too plus you can add more files in the List and it will not lose the List if you go offline for any time and then when you go back online you can contiue the files where you left off. I use a 56Modem and only takes me a night too download about 10 mp3 files
In the long run this program is far better than old Napster which can not even resume files

So the BIG Question is Do YOU WHAT a Program that can Download and REsume mp3 or one that can NOT(Napster etc..)

I think that most people who have obtained any sort of knowledge of underground internet distribution, would say that this sort of agreement for Napster is nothing more than a perfectly reasonable compromise. True the idea of a free internet is in the folds, we must realize that what we have been gaining from these systems over the past few years is miraculous. We (the technically elite) have managed to overcome every system in place, as far as copyrights are concerned. Finally the legitimate business world is ready to recognize our abilities. I think that a fee for Napster is a very reasonable move. We are so accomplished in our explorations, it is very honorable to give back some of our gains. Besides, any true elite knows that Napster is a primitive and buggy form of file distribution. If you have any knowledge of the netizen past, you know how to circumvent, Napster altogether.

"Finally the legitimate business world is ready to recognize our abilities."

You mean your strong-arm, illegal activities? You mean your total lack of ethics?

I consider myself one of the technical elite yet I do not stoop to theft because I understand the value of copyright. Come down off your high horse and read the copyright laws, find out why they exist, instead of assuming, because you think you are tehcnically elite, that you know everything and have nothing left to learn.

You really need to get a life, stupid cheapscape.

Getting music for free on Napster is not a right, it's a privelage, and now, wow, it's going to cost a total of, *gasp*, $5 per month, that's steep! (saracasm).

Napster is for rookies anyway,,and to all who replyed saying someone is cheap,,etc,,you are all full of s**t,saying you respect copy right,,,so you are saying you don't own one illegal mp3,,I say you are a full of it...now for those with no lives feel free to attack this comment,,but face the facts...hahahahahaah DAM ROOKIES

i would pay.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS IDEA ???
WOULD YOU PAY ??? !!!

I am a great believer in democracy (even if it is dead) but some of the comments posted here, make me so angry. Some of the contributors, cannot even spell "greedy bas****s".
Lets not beat around the bush, this announcement is the death of Napster. Andreas s*** and his fellow directors must be determined unemployment!
This subscription service will not work and will not make a profit. Their service is illegal and of course, the record companies are just going to sit on their backsides whilst Bertelsman make a profit from their copyrighted materials.

Bertelsman can;t legally make a profit from thsiventure anymore than Napster could UNLESS they ONLY offer their own publisher's catalog of songs.

Lets say i sign up for napster at a $5 subscription fee for a month and download a few hundred mp3s from the community. The next month i drop the service, but i borrow some of my friends cds and rip them to mp3s. That would mean that the mp3s i got of napster were legal because i paid for them thru the service and the ones i ripped were illegal.

the question is how is anybody gonna be able to tell the difference between the two?

That is where tracking software comes in, but the cool guys at microsoft are actually making it harder for any of that tracking software to work. This keeps their clients safe. The only way I think is possible is to have some sort of digital signature. Also remember when they proposed the audio files that corrupted themselves after so many days. I doubt this will happen anyways, since the files are not on a central server but on the client machines.

And how do they propose to corrupt a file after it is already burned onto my cd? Furthermore, is not corrupting files on a hard drive illegal? I mean...sure, you only have soooo many rights to a particular file, but in the same token, a company should only have so many rights to what it can do to a given file once it is on your hard drive.

Very good you can also decode the song and reencode it to kill the process. Also it is in the registry setting for the file name. So if you killed the registry setting the file could not corrupt. This is something that they stopped working on. Also if you are wondering about file access, the file has access to itself, not the company. And its not illegal for the company to corrupt its own file especially if you weren't paying for it.

it's too bad to see that consumerism has taken over the free right of human beings once again.

i'm sorry napster, i'll leech you for all your worth now, and set up a private ftp site for those whom i consider worthy of my regard - just like i've always done.

fight fight fight fight.

and my best regards to the author and anyone contributors to napster, it's been a great ride and you showed the world what freedom tastes like.

all good things come to an end.. :(

What free right has copyright law taken from you? You do not own the marerial. You did not create the material. The only free rights being taken away are the ones the copyright owners have. Which, I might add, were established in the core of the US Constitution. GO read it, it's an interesting document.

well said, i use napster but NEVER have i tried to justify my activity by saying its a 'right' thats being 'taken away'. i will simply use napster until its a pay service then move on to something else (ftp's gnutella, etc)... get your heads out of your asses people! downloading mp3's is illegal, dont try to make this some sort of crusade!

For argument's sake here. You're saying it's illegal but you're still doing it. So ,you're involved in illegal activity. But, that's OK because you KNOW it's illegal. So, if I steal a car, but know it's wrong, it's OK. It's only the bas****s that won't admit it's wrong that are the bad guys.

Not that I'm particularly fond of arguing foridiots like this guy, I think his comment was that he doesn't care if it's illegal, just that it is. He is not saying it is right or OK for him because he knows it's wrong, he is just saying it is wrong, don't try to justify this as a great First Amendment argument. In fact, I say the people who claim this as a First Amendment argument do a disservice to those whos struggles have truly been First Amendment fights. We as Americans have become complacent and lazy, assuming that everything is our God given right because we were born on US soil. I think the people who believe this need to go read our US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence again. These two documents embody what the US is. You need to think for yourself what these documents means to you, not what some person says they should mean because you happen to agree with their larger arguments and their interprtations happen to support these arguments.

Hmmm...I am not American and those pieces of paper mean nothing here so let the looting and plundering begin!!! JUST KIDDING hehe

I realize you're kidding but many others don't and think that US Copyright laws don't apply to them. Wrong. Many countries are members of a world trademark and copyright consortium which honors the copyrights of other member nations. If someone from Germany infringed upon a US copyright, the German government would allow US law to intervene. Same if a US citizen infringed upon a German copyright, German copyright laws would intervene.

hmmm... i really wouldn't mind paying $5 for napster but there are the drawbacks of... what if it's gonna loose a lot of the users, whitch it is! and then as some other guy posted. most of the users such as college students with the T3 lines are gonna dissapear as well. and franklly they have the best music.

what do you think guys ?

Hi , I think they mean $5,000 A month did't you notice the $5,

they just forgot the 000

I really hope you are not being serious. That is a dumb comment. The cheapest pay service for compressed audio I know of is $70. Remeber Napster started free. They are not going to become some money grubbing capitalist.

The ONLY way I'm going to pay is if the MP3's are of the highest quality. I'm not going to pay for some of these crap MP3's that people rip and have skips in them or the beginning or ends cut off of the songs.

lol! look closely:

F***K
12345
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B****D
1234567
bas****

Not wishing to p**s on the party but they are "Bloody Krauts" and not this f**ked up "crowts" you all keep typing. If you are going to flame someone at least flame them using the right name :-)

Oh also I guess that from your post's content you must be an American? Why is Napster yours? It was meant to be a public peer to peer sharing service? I do not remember seeing "For use in America by Americans ONLY" anywhere when I used it?

Thats a just IMHO :-) and not an attack on anything "American"

...with BMG doing this. Legally speaking they will only be able to allow THEIR music on the service UNLESS they strike deals with the other publishing companies. They have destroyed Napster just by purchasing it which, in and of itself, is a good thing.

First off, the word is Krauts. Lawyer is spelled that way, just for future reference.

OK, now that that is out of the way, I really doubt Napster is going to make it rich off of $5/month. Most of that is going to go to the record companies, and the rest is likely to amount to little more than covering saleries, administrative costs, and possibly expansion of the funcionality of Napster. I don't really use Napster, but if I were into the music trading scene, I would not mind spending $5/month for access to that community. However, whomever brought up the point abut ppl not allowing downloads, high latency ppl, etc. has a valid point. How am I to know that I am getting my money's worth if I'm stuck on dialup?

Really, though that is the only valid point I've seen anyone make on this board concerning Napster as a subscription service.

True, the subscruption means that Big Business has won out, but that is only one fight, in a stream of many to come. In the end, somone will realise a way to create a business model that won't rely on the supply and demand of old business, and then we will no longer have to worry about those dinosaurs of Big Business, bc they will be outcompeted by those that have embraced the new marketplace. In the mean time, $5 is not to big a price to pay for lots of music.

Oh please! this all started with that idiot of a lawer(sp?) that was representing metalica, and then he started to convince all the other record companies + bands to join his "crusade". and... hmm where was he from? not totally sure, but Im guessing america! so BLOODY AMERICANS would be a better statement!!!

Listen, you are totally right. Bloody Market Capitalysts. All they care about is capitalysing the damn industry to make monry out off free traders on the net. Which may I add that whom ever must have an internet connection, DSL, CABLE whatever it may be, those people like myself and others pay for monthly. We don't need Midelhoff's bull***t, this is what cause's everyone to go out off control and fight against record companies and their labels. This is what causes everyone to go out and buy bootlegs or download them.That is trully criminal in a sense. Not because you are stealing, but yet because you are not giving the music industry any money.

Ask yourself, why ruin a GOOD thing, its free, no hassles, outstanding requirements, etc. Hope that they dont charge existing users if and whenthis does happen

They aren't ruining it, they are charing to get the music industry off their backs.

Okay First off I doubt this is true anyways. Napster has said that it will offer a pay membership but will never do away with the free-based file sharing part of Napster. Instead the pay membership will be an "enhanced" napster experience. Also, this move would probably cut a major part of the Napster userbase, not because people would be unwilling to shell out 5, 15 or even 20 bucks but because most likely the way of payment would be by credit card, which for the most part cuts off a lot of college students and minors =).

Napster said hat BEFORE Bertelsman bought them out. The BMG thing threw a monkey in the wrench, so to speak.

I don't know about that. College students have easy access to credit cards. Of course, what good's a credit card if you don't have money to pay for it?

Why don't you people quit whining about Napster, empty your little piggybanks and pay the $5 a month? Will that $5 really make you poor? After all that Napster has done for all you mp3 kiddies, you can't see it fair to pay $5 a month to keep the file-sharing company in business and out of legal trouble?

The Internet seems to continue to bring out selfish bas****s who want s*** that doesn't belong to them for free. Its getting so bad that people won't even shell out five Washington's or one Lincoln for an almost unlimited supply of music.

"Duh, huh huh use BearShare or CuteMX, its free, huh huh! **** Napster!"

Funny how the majority of people saying stuff like that were on Napster's side during the Napster vs. Metallica fiasco, but now that Napster is trying to keep itself alive, all its dedicated fans are looking elsewhere... How easily led some sheep are.

It's not that people turned their backs on Napster. It is more so the fact that the premise of napster has changed. So now you are paying $5 a month. OK, does that give me unlimited downloads? What about the people on the network who have a high latency or just simply are not willing to share? Before that was all a non-issue since it was free. Now that they want to start up a subscription, to allow other users to connect to my computer and me to theirs bla bla bla what kind of quality assurance can they give? $5 ain't much...but it is still $5. Furthermore, so we pay $5 a month to keep napster outta trouble. What about all those University students that got screwed over in the heat of all this mp3 debate. Napster comes out filthy rich and smelling like roses while everyone else is still a thieving bas****? I don't think so. Napster users are not the Judas' in this inquisition.

What they are, are cheapscapes, probably the same exact ones trying to get pirated copies of Whistler, and they think that they should get everything for free.

Whoa... that was the most intelligent comeback I've ever seen. Your mother must be proud :)

LOL! #2! This board is HOT!

Quit your complaining and open your eyes to reality.
They ARE getting it for free. Nobody is going to stop them. Nobody ever WILL stop them.

CPUGuy, in a sense, you personify capitalism. It is my belief that if your neighbor asked you to help him/her for a favor, you would charge them a fee.

Uhh, no, I wouldn't.

You just have to admit, if you don't own the CD, you are stealing it from the companies, unless they specificly say it can be distrubuted in that manor. Now, have I been doing this? Yes, I have about 4000 mp3's as a mater of fact, and of course I will pay the petty $5 per month to get a subscription on it, because it is a wonderful resource, when I want to listen to a piece of music, I just look for it in Napster, and I got it.

It is my belief that just about every reader of betanews.com is a cheapscape that believes they should get everything for free, and are actually angered when they have to pay for it.

See ya napster - I'm off elsewhere

There is nowhere else to go, unless you want to hit up warez sites with 5000 pop-ups and then links that don't even get you the music.

Yeah, apparently you never heard of IRC.

how about WinMX www.winmx.com,
connects to opennap, etc... as well as napster.

hehe, you guys don't search the net, right?

Take a look at www.audiogalaxy.com
and download the satellite and open your world.
Even better than Napster, c 4 ur self

Wow, Satellite is awesome! Great service

and best of all, every download I've tried so far has worked! There doesn't seem to be any firewall conflicts like Napster and other P2P software.

one site

www.gnute.com

end of story

www.songspy.com looks like a very promising program. also, if you think about it, let's say napster has 2 million users, if they can get half of those to sign up for thes subscription service, i think the Fanning dude of napster will be living the good life, do the math .

You also have Imesh to use also. I consider that being better then Napster. What People don't get is that when you shut napster or some other mp3 sharing program down, another one will just start up.
The Dew..

And then they close down, either due to legal pressure, or they run out of money. How are these companies meant to make money? Ads? Don't make me laugh.

I would suggest that those of you who are so cool and dont want to spend 5 dollars on what you can have for free, use Napigator(www.napigator.com)! It is a program that tells you servers that you connect to. I also would suggest you look at www.musiccity.com since it uses the Napster program to connect to its servers. You could also connect to it using napigator.

One other little caveat, after paying $5, only artists that specifically authorize their material will be on here. So no just finding whatever you want, only songs specifically determined to be able to be traded on Napster will be allowed, all others will be banned. Promo's, special songs, some independents (who sign on board) will be on there, nothing else. Have a nice day! : )

Music City is already bigger than the Napster servers. Music City is free. Those of you Familiar with IRC it works the same way. So you know is not going to shutdown unless the server root/owner shuts it down. But the other servers are going to be operational. Unlike the napster servers which will all shutdown if the court orders it too. I want to thank Music City for making this possible. You guys just give it a shot and you wont be disappointed.