So encouraging Millions of ppl to run those machines using 200W for folding 24/7? That does not include resources used for networking etc.

While cool on paper - Is this project really a boon or a bane?

Hey, I never said PS3's weren't powerful systems. They overpower the competition as far as raw GFLOPS go.

Doesn't make them good gaming systems though.

I think we may have found the answer to the embarrassingly low attach rate for Blu-ray titles:

PS3 cluster servers! LOL

I hate PS3 but i absolutely LOVE the Cell processor-- can we PLEASE get it to desktops??????????!!!!!!!!??????!!!!

Gotta use that PS3 for something, right? ;)

/bait

Why do you idiots have to turn this into a console war?

And yes, you are idiots for doing so.

Agreed.

Not to mention they cherry picked the facts, and totally ignored all the PCs that are running it using the BOINC platform, just so they've have some numbers impressive enough to go fan boy crazy.

So that's who Sony has been selling them to. Oh and apparently 670,000 networked PS3s are more powerful than the 200,000 networked PCs they had before. Duh.

at least the PS3 is good for something beside as a mini heater.

You seem to forget, the 360 is the true heater.

Maybe they could release folding@home as a game and make some money that way. 1.5 million PS3's are churning away at protein strands ..... and can't figure it out yet?

This is specifically what the the Sony engineers hoped the PS3 would accomplish, letting your console run day and night ... in the name of protein.

with no good games im glad the ps3 is good for something.

Yawn how old..

PS3 has plenty of great games..

How many of those great games do you own?

Plenty of great games you are a fanboy or just stupid. I bet most of us know the answer to that. The list of great games is very short, like maybe 2.

Then stop the folding already and start playing.

Yeah, that's why it's selling so well.

Depends on how retarded you are. :p

Wow, already 5 counterattacks Joey. Almost makes me feel sorry for you...

...not.

This should not be a surprise to anyone; the PS3 is the most powerful gaming console ever. But that power comes with a high price. A high price brings lower sales. Lower sales means developers don't release games. No games means no reason to buy. And there you have it.

"the PS3 is the most powerful gaming console ever."

It's apparently the most powerful protein folding console ever. It has yet to prove with any game so far that it is the most powerful gaming console ever. That's a ridiculous statement. Don't confuse 'hard to program for' with 'too powerful'. :)

lol. the graphics hardware is more powerful than the 360 and Wii. the processing architecture is superior than the 360 and Wii. how does that not equal a more powerful machine?

You think if M$ could introduce a folding@home client which bested the PS3 they would not? they tried, and could not, as the 360 does not have the power.

You had to get your M$ crap in yet I see you have totally avoided the thread about Apple being hacked. According to you only that only happens to Microsoft.

huh?

http://www.betanews.com/...opard_for_PC/1193774171

Last time I checked the Xbox 360 and PS3 had about the same amount of processing capability, for gaming anyway, for general computing, such as this, the 360 is much faster.

http://features.teamxbox...rformance-Comparison/p1/

lol. a xbox fanboi site! I bet i can find a Wii fanboi site that says it is more powerful than the PS3. The architecture of the PS3 is very different than the old tech used in the 360.

if the 360 was so much more powerful than the ps3 where is the Folding@home client? Why are developers saying they are hitting the ceiling of its performance already?

So someone cracks the install of Leopard and this means the security of OSX is bad? I don't follow you.

Hackers hack the installation of every software like forever ever. The news would be if hackers were remotely hacking Leopard. this sort of thing happens to M$ Windows all the time. Just surf with the turd that is IE and you will pick up all sorts of nice Spyware, Trojans, Keyloggers ,etc...

Look at all the companies selling products to "clean" your M$ Windows box. Don't need that on the Mac.

The Cell processor is superior for a lot of things, but gaming is not one of them.

Are you serious? The graphics hardware is more powerful than the Xbox 360's? From which parallel dimension did you receive this information?

FRSX (Fabricated Reality Synthesizer) would be more appropriate. The PlayStation 3's graphics processing consists of a GPU based on an nVIDIA G70 GeForce 7800 256 MB... one that PC gamers started using (and grew away from) over 2 years ago. It's last-gen hardware (now, and when the PS3 was released), and severely outdated by today's standards. It's a joke for such a "cutting edge" next-gen game console. The mere notion that this console will be relevant for even the next couple of years (in contrast to the 7+ the PS2 is enjoying) as games become even more advanced than they already are is hysterical. Just how does Sony propose to do that? A co-RSX add-on to give it quasi-SLI? LOL

Next-gen consoles typically utilize graphics hardware that is far beyond what PC gamers have access to for several months after. That was not the case with the PS3. Sony took a major step backwards in their choice of graphics processing.

The Xbox 360's GPU was actually new cutting edge hardware developed specifically for that console. It has much higher processing power than the tired last-gen GPU of the PS3, and has been proven on far too many occasions. A simple search using your engine of choice will enlighten you.

I couldn't give a frog's fat a** whether or not the Xbox 360 can simulate protein folding. The console shows it's power through it's vast library of good games... because that's what the 3 general-purpose cores on the CPU were designed for, as opposed to the 1 general-purpose core and 7 (or 6, rather) DSPs on the Cell.

The Cell processor was designed exactly for the type of processing the Folding@Home client is churning out, and other types of work that involves heavy streaming floating point operations... sadly not games.

Using your same analogy, if Sony or its 3rd-party developers were capable of utilizing the Cell CPU effectively for games the same way that the humble folks of the F@H team have, wouldn't they have done so after this long? No, because it's not what the PS3 was truly designed for. Games have taken a back seat with Sony on their latest console, and it shows (to anyone who actually pays attention).

Besides, make up your mind... are you a Sony or Nintendo fanboy? :)

You know, I've noticed that you've never mentioned what your OS of choice is, and what you use to browse the Internet.

Just curious, that's all.

i run Linux at home, although i have to run Windoze to play games. And, unfortunately, i have to use Windows at work.

Just bought a Mac Book Pro last weekend and that is really slick...Leopard is definitely way better than Windows.

Groovy.

I've been wanting a fairly modern Mac (possibly a Mac Book Pro) for a little while, if for nothing more than sheer curiosity.

OS X, unfortunately, cannot be "better" than Windows on all fronts... the same with Linux. There are certain tasks that each flavor of OS is well suited for.

I have noticed that you love to throw broad generalizations around. No OS can be completely and wholly better than another in every way. Nevertheless, if you feel it is better, then that's great. Use what you like and be happy with it. :)

The real question though... is Leopard definitely way better than Tiger?

Was that definitely way better than Panther?

Was that definitely way better than Jaguar?

Was that definitely way better than Puma?

Was that definitely way better than Cheetah?

http://www.winsupersite....osx_leopard_preview.asp

"He (Jobs) claimed that Apple shipped five "major" updates to OS X, including Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger, though I'd argue that virtually none of those were major updates at all. (Unless you count the cost. At $129 for each version, that's about $750 on Mac OS X upgrades since 2001. That kind of puts the cost of Windows in perspective.)"

The hype for each new "release" is way overblown for what each one brings to the same 10.x family. Where's OS XI already? :)

The amount that Apple demands for each minor release (barely worthy of a large-scale retail marketing campaign) is ridiculous, and that's one of the biggest gripes I have about them.

I'm curious why the number of PC contributers is soo low? I remember setting something like this up back in college, (borrow my processing power). But 200,000 is a pretty low number. You figure that should be we'll over 1 million. Oh well.

Because most PCs use Boinc, not Stanford's proprietary client.

I wondered that myself at first... but I agree, that must be the reason.

I use BOINC as well.

They should include Seti@home too, it's much more worthwhile.

Perhaps you might change your mind, if you are unfortunate enough to end up with Alzheimer's, Mad Cow Disease, CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's, or many types of cancer...

Sorry, seaching for aliens is pie in the sky..

mmmm, pie

Unless the aliens had a cure for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow Disease, CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's and many types of cancer.

Keeping an open mind to all facets is probably a good thing.

Gotta love Homer.

Im actually shocked that you would consider looking for aliens is more important than doing research on a cure for cancer. Are you insane?

Steve,

Do you have all those diseases? Is this why your sheep zombieism is so severe? This explains a lot, no normal person could be as obsessed as you are with something so unimporatant like BD and game consoles.

Happy Halloween everyone, I picked out the perfect costume this year. I'm going as BD profile 1.1 a.k.a the Invisible Man.

For every post about BD, you post something about profile whatever. You're just as bad.

Please just give it up it's getting old.

Well, I guess since you say so, that makes it fact.

Jordan05,

Let me think about that ............ Ummm.....no.

Well I tried lol.

i kinda find great amusement watching hollywood abuse dave... i don't know why yet but it just makes me happy

Oh come on and lighten up already. Its Halloween and that profile 1.1 joke was just plain funny.

Yea I think he's a joke too.

Same here. Even though most posts breach forum etiquette, there must be a reason why the moderators do not intervene more often than they do. They must find some type of morbid amusement in it as well.