There is more to life than "building-a-krap-mound-on-a-not-even-a-confirmed-snapshot-of-a-gaming-console". Where are your priorities???

I wonder if we could actually have a bunch of kickzz dedicated professionals doing things of use more to humanity and life. Gaming is fun, agreed. But it is not everything! Wake up youth!!!

i sure can. and this is a photoshopped fake.

Personally kinda looks like a Indrema (read this for more in http://alllinuxdevices.c...2001-04-12-002-03-OP-GM) to me.

wait till next month all the gamers will be complain about ps3 design with its built in hard drive :-X i don't care what it looks like, all i care about that it out will out perform XB1 and the high price of games are worth it.

It looks like a futuristic tampad dispenser.

actually, it looks like a tampon from a tampad dispenser. doesn't matter since this image is a photoshopped fake anyways.

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Look at the date. I am thinking that either BetaNews had a hand in this or they are really fast at getting news and we know that the second is hardly true.

The image was shrunk down, detective.

If this IS the real design, I have to say... this has got to be the ugliest console system to date.

Yes, it's photoshopped.. but most pre-production design prototypes ARE. It may be real, it may be fake. Just wait until May and stop wetting yourselves. :)

Anybody else think the name "Xbox 360" is as lame as I do? That's no different than calling it "Xbox 3D"... newsflash, Xbox is already a 3D console.

Microsoft's design team needs to wake up.

That design doesn't look "360". I thought maybe it would atleast be toploading and have a circular design. The eject button on that alleged prototype seems alright but WTF is with the tray! It's way too thin to take disks, unless Microsoft want millions of users whining about replacements being needed for whenever they accidently bump it and it snaps.
The power button is way to big and looks like it was justed pasted onto the image and blurred to cover up the loss of what could've been caused by it being a smaller JPEG.
One little question though: "If consoles are getting smaller, the graphics and audio better, faster processing; then why not just use a computer?" Atleast that way you can upgrade your PC without the whole gimmick of "OMG XBOX!" (up da price$). I've noticed how crap the Xbox and PS2 resolution is compared to a new PC (new being that of one released the same year of the Xbox and/or PS2). =P
Long live the PC! and quite wasting time making games for consoles. ;-)

One day soon consoles will be dead and I'll be glad to see that day. Mostly cuz I'm tired of the diffrence between a PC and a TV still causing them to be incompatable but HDTV is finaly ripping that wall down.

But this wall is why the xbox has lower res then PCs, even PCs that came out the same time as the xbox and even many years before the xbox. The majority of the world still uses analog TV (1930's technology) so the games cant realy go much past 640x480. The xbox is capable of more but cuz 640x480 is what most of us can use it means the games are designed around that res to get the best look for the most people. DVD suffers from this as well. It looks good but it's still based around the limitations of the TV.

Why I think this will be the last generation of game consoles is cuz this is going to be the last generation where analog TVs outnumber digital TVs.
By the time the xbox 360, PS3, and whatever crap N comes up with are fading out most of us should have digital TVs and the final convergence of the PC and TV will take place.

There's only one problem with that logic - multi-tasking. There is one reason alone that consoles will ALWAYS be around and ALWAYS be better, and it's because they are dedicated machines. They are built from the ground up to do one thing and to have only one process ever running at a time.

When you game on Windows, you have 1)Windows running, 2) The 5 million services and Daemons that come with it, and 3) Any other programs you might have running (firewall, AV, anti-spyware).

That is why console gaming will always be better and cheaper.

quote "There's only one problem with that logic - multi-tasking. There is one reason alone that consoles will ALWAYS be around and ALWAYS be better, and it's because they are dedicated machines. They are built from the ground up to do one thing and to have only one process ever running at a time.

When you game on Windows, you have 1)Windows running, 2) The 5 million services and Daemons that come with it, and 3) Any other programs you might have running (firewall, AV, anti-spyware).

That is why console gaming will always be better and cheaper"

thats totaly flawed you assume its not running tons of stuff in the background because you cant see it but consoles run a os just like pcs macs and cell phones If you play a game online more process's will be loaded.

Who gives a rats arss what it looks like. If it has killer graphics and playability - it can look like roadkill for all i care. You people REALLY need to get over your vanity issues with game consoles. Christ.. its a GAME SYSTEM not a car..

How about I make a crazy console mod for a atari 2600.. All kinds of lights, buttons and colors.. would you buy that? no.. why? because it sucks now..

ugh..

umm... no. That, my friend, is a BIOS. You sort of need one in order to run anything... That is seemingly close to, but still completely different from an OS.

Haven't you ever wondered why the 485Mhz processor in the Gamecube produces such smooth and detailed graphics when it takes a 3.0Ghz processor with a top-of-line video card to get the same results?

I'm not pulling this out of my butt. I actually have a reason for making the statements I made.

A game system is smoother, but you have way way way more control over your game when using it off a PC. If you want to add mods to the game, new levels, new packs, etc.. you cant do that with a game system.. You load the disk, thats it.. thats all you get. Ill lose a few pixels per second if i can get unlimited mods.

I like PC games much more..

The XBox, at the very least, runs a version of Windows XP. It's a Windows PC with a lot stripped out and optimized, but a Windows PC nonetheless.

I believe it actualy runs Windows NT. Its a more suitably OS for the Xbox, as it doesn't need to be excessively normal user friendly

http://www.system16.com/taito/hrdw_typex.html

This PC based arcade hardware is definitely running Windows XP :)

"I like PC games much more.. "

me too actually (though you might think otherwise from my previous posts) :-)

console and PC gaming both have their pluses. I haven't played on a console in a while though...

Windows NT - XP is using the similiar kernal to Windows NT - XP is maybe NT 5

One of the touted benefits of processor virtualization by Intel and AMD is being able to run a highly dedicated environment, suitable for things like gaming, separate from all of those other multitasking issues you mentioned.

what you fail to realise is that electronic devices are no longer bought simply for their function, but as a lifestyle choice. the better styled the unit the more you will sell.

Look at the fact that it only has one controller plug. Are all games single player?

I think that's supposed to be a IR port for wireless controllers... but reguardless the image is a fake. =)

Man I hope all wireless controllers isn't true... Things like that have no real benift in being wireless unless it's optinal. Having too replace/recharge batteries in a wireless controller will FAR outweigh any problems and annoyances that have ever been caused by wired controllers.

All signs point to yes:

http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=6879

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omg - if they had the wireless controllers use IR, that would suck. The only way a wireless controller will be any good is if it uses RF. There is no way that's for a controller. I say it's probably for a remote - to do... I don't know what.

Good point, RF would be better but IR console controllers have existed for years now (since the 16-bit days). The technology would be rather inexpensive to incorporate into the console these days.

IR goes back to 8-bit days actually.

But yea odds are thats not for the controllers but for the DVD remote. RF controllers dont need an external pickup cuz the signal can penetrate solid objects to a certain extent. The controler pickups are proly not visable on the outside of the case as 1/8th inch thick plastic (proly less) isn't going to block the signal.

I have other issues with going wirelss mandatory other then having to recharge the controler too. Such as how well does it block interference from other sources (cell phones, cordless phones, microwaves, wi-fi devices, and radios)? How well does it prevent crossing over of signals if yer playing multi player on the same xbox with say 4 controlers? How will it perform if my next door nabor or the dude on the other side of the wall in an apartment building has an xbox 360 as well?

I hope the controllers are 100% perfict and reliable or they are going to be a major annoyance and I'll quickly wish they had a wire. Much like the very much useless wireless mice that are so big these days. Having to remember to place the mouse on the charger is far more annoying then dragging the wire around.

I agree with that, and I think that Microsoft likely took all of that into consideration. A new console generation is way too important to risk making stupid mistakes (I hope).

Just look at the power button! Its as big as the console! I hope the REAL 360 looks good tho

It's a fake. Lighting is wrong.

That's a photoshop job if I ever saw one.. just look at teh 360 text, it just screams FAKE!

That is not a picture.

The real Xbox may look similar to that, I cannot say, but that is not a photo of it. It may be a design concept graphic or something of that sort, but you can tell it is not a photograph.

MOST product graphics are photoshopped to make them look better. It's obviously not a photograph, but it could very easily be a real image of the new Xbox.

Notice the lack of the Microsoft logo anywhere on the product.

Thats' right. Looks like fake

http://www.du168.net/big5/

I have to agree that is VERY ugly.

...cuz that damn things ugly. Anyway the fact it showed up on SomethingAwful of all places first just flat out says fake to me.

lol ugly? For a piece of hardware, I'd say it looks pretty sweet. Other than the gargantuan power button, I think it looks fine. It should be black though...

Damn that is one ugly duckling!

Well, compared to the first box it's a real treat to look at.

I think its a real pic from the other pics leaked looks exactly like it.

http://www.motospeak.com...wtopic=3393&hl=xbox

That design looks FAR better. It's not shaped like a maxipad. I like that one.

heres another image from a different angle

http://pictures.xbox-sce...m/4/xbox360/zomg3zt.jpg

The First (front) image has the eject button turned on its side while in the other linked picture it is facing up... hmmm... shall I dare say "photoshop" again? The Pics that were also linked from the MotoSpeak website both claimed to be from the same place. o... and the memory unit logos are different.

i just threw up that link cuz i saw those days before this was up.

WOW! You said it and your score isn't -1. I don't believe it.