Hey.. look at Opera! it just kicked the heck out of netscape... but its still not up their with IE. I actually think 5 is really good release. It renders pages faster than IE, and displays them just how they should be. Pluss the tabbed interface is great... and it is very easy on the resources/memory/download size/install size... and loads very fast. A huge array of options and features make it worth while. A few more tweaks here and there would be great. I think if marketed right, and promoted well... it could become a popular browser.. not just an alternative.

Last time I tried Opera was around version 2 or 3. Concerned about my boredom, I thought I would give 5 a try. Sure it's nice, but I can't believe a maximized window still has an unnecessary horizontal scroll bar. I figured 2, 3 years later they would of resolved that issue. Sure, you can disable scroll bars but then your vertical one is gone. Yes, I'm picky about sloppy things like that and will not use it simply because of that.

uhm.. A) that's a stupid a** reason not to use something
B) I've maximized this window 10 times now, and still haven't gotten it to give me a horizontal scroll bar :(

Not really, I like maximum screen space available without being full screen. An uneeded horizontal scroll bar is clutter I could do without. Sometimes the smallest of things can throw you off depending on how you adapt to the things around you. Have you ever disliked something because of its color or maybe not attracted to someone because they had a mole on their forehead?

Are you sure you have scroll bars enabled? I've seen this situation on every machine I tried opera on from version 2 up to the latest 5 and also talked about on numorous forums.

I just tried it on another machine. To my surprise, no horizontal scroll bar. But after fooling around with it for awhile, it came back and will not go away.

Any suggestions?

I used opera 4.02 a while back, i used it for like 2 weeks and got sick of it. The new version is the fastest browser i've found, there's only 2 problems with it, it loads some pages a little different then IE does, and i hate the UI. I noticed that there is a different with all the toolbar pics in it, anybody know of a site where I could find different pictures to use on the toolbar, to spicen it up a little?

erm.. there is a folder with pics in it, not "a different" don't know why i typed that.

I can't believe how much faster it is than IE. The MDI bit is going to take a bit of using, but being able to open new windows by s***-clicking really speeds things up. 16hours of using on 1000+ pages and not a single crash (can't say that for IE or NN). I think I'm hooked.

it isnt faster than ie. it depends on your type of internetconnection
amd on your equipment. by the way , since i have installed win2k , i had only 2 or 3 crashes with ie (ie 5.01 till ie 5.5sp1).
i am not a big fan of opera (i have tried the 4.01 on my box and it crashed very often), but i have to admit with the 5.0 there is a real competitor with mozilla (not netscape!!) and ie .
lets wait and see what m§ has to offer with the 6.0 release.

It definitely is faster than IE. It renders pages MUCH faster than IE, and still faster than Mozilla. Also, Opera caches so well that browsing back and forth is instantaneous. Even with the proper settings in IE, you have to wait after hitting "Back."

And to the previous comment, s***-clicking in IE opens the link in a new window also.
---Opera is my primary browser.

I am using Opera 4.02 for quite a long time. But when I switched to Opera 5.0, it crashed when asking for proxy authentication. The same problem exists in all the Linux versions. Hope they fix this bug soon.

hey i like it it works fine , fast did a good job , but the $39 is a no..no, but if you find a crak, say bye bye banner add. i know thats bad but it works fine , i just add java and some other plugin's and it good to go. but it is never going to be like msie 5.5 , i think its better than netscape 6. but thats aol's doing. P.S for BeOS its a must have!

What kind of ad banner system does it have? A custom one, or are they using spyware like Radiate?

It uses a custom ad. It's a standard banner size, sits in the toolbar at the top of the screen. And it's the same size as the toolbar, so it doesn't take up any extra screen space.

Instead of complaining about opera you should be complaining about www.palm.com for not building a site compliant to the HTML standard.
Opera follows the standard which was designed for a reason, namely make all sites look the same and be accessible in any browser or platform.
You can see if a site is HTML compliant by pressing "right mouse - frame - validate HTML" in Opera. The site will be validated by the W3C (designers of the HTML standard). Doing this will show that www.palm.com has a large amount of violations. Therefore, correct rendering cannot be garantueed by a browser.

PS: pressing the "toggle between user & document mode" button next to the URL bar in opera will actually show the www.palm.com site albeit with a complete wrong layout.

Just downloaded, not bad. I always hate the HyperLink underline, I disable them in IE5 and Netscape. Can I do the same in Opera 5?
TIA

Yes you can change it in File Menu - Preferences - Documents - Link Presentation

I am using the new Opera 5.0 software right now, and the sites that I have visited so far, well, Opera just doesn't handle them as they should. Are they really going for standards compliance, or are the big guys like Netscape and Internet Explorer so far off from the standards that we don't even realize it? I mean, go to Palm's website and the whole front page is missing, minus a drop-down menu, and Intel's website, with their brilliant drop-down menus, half of them don't look right. Something's wrong, but who's fault is it, Opera's or everyone else's? It's nice to see though, that someone is trying something different. That's my 2 cents.

If you thought Netscape 6 was good, you'd be wrong.

If you assumed that Opera 5 would still suck, you'd be wrong!

It's actually really good this time, give it a try :) There are so many nice things about it, it's insane... and if you don't like adverts you can still use your registration from version 4.

Well so you should be able to use a version 4 reg code it just is version 4 with and advert on it

Far from it, and if you used both versions for more than 5 minutes without giving up, you would see!

Even though it has some nice new functions I must agree it does not really deserve the jump from 4.02 to 5.0 I could just as well have been 4.5
Opera still rules though :)

Actually, I think it does deserve a new version number. True, there isn't a whole lot of new stuff in the browser itself aside from bug fixes, but it is a new browser in that it's the "free" version.