Did someobody say something? I noticed they didn't bother to defend themselves about the lies they told before the European launch.

The fact that they had the time to go back and screen capture my previous posts makes them a complete "looser" with nothing better to do.

Did I hear someone say they have 15 PS3's?

Coming from the same guy who claimed he owned one three months before they launched in Europe. This is the most pathetic post so far.

It appears he has scaled back to only a select few usernames now. Still a complete "looser".

Some of us had the benefits of a private schooling, secret handshakes, and a classical education.

"Some of us had the benefits of a private school"

It's referred to as a "special school" over here..

Hollywood__: "Sony will call it quits on the PS3 right after Christmas 2007. I heard this from a reliable source"
http://img404.imageshack...04/7108/51895396af3.png

Hollywood__: "The PSX failure rate was 81% and the original thick PS2 was 73%. That's a fact."
http://img65.imageshack....65/8619/22502397jd9.jpg

LOL :-)

I love the fact that I can drive somebody to a bleeding ulser over something so stupid. Sony did project 1 million units before the end of '06 but they were only off by 7 months.

Hollywood__ is a retard and an idiot, PS3 in N1 even now:

http://www.amazon.com/gp...4301&pf_rd_i=468642

Sorry Holly, you suck...

ROFL...Was that supposed to prove something? It is like bragging because your clearance items sold fast...

siryak,

He is pissed because nobody takes a gaming system they don't even own as seriously as him.

Oh yeah, and did I mention the same person has 30 usernames and responds to himself?

I could swear I've mentioned that maybe once before. He also uses words like "looser", the sign of a true moron. The inability to spell a 5 letter word correctly shows me how dumb people can truly be.

Yeah, there are also some 20 usernames created by aliens too... Everyone is against you Holly, everyone!!! :D

And BTW i have about 15 PS3 here, did i mention that i work in TechStore and have PS3 since launch?

So that's what caused the PS3 to suddenly sell? It wasn't because of the price drop.

Or did you mean about 15 unsold ones in your TechStore.

Didn't Sony project 1 million units sold before the end of '06?

Oh well, I'm glad I don't have to pay attention to this stuff anymore. I just moved into a new apartment where my two roommates and I have all three systems plus an additional Wii.

Finally I'll get to see for myself what I like/dislike about each system.

We also have decent PCs and games to go with them. Nightly LAN parties... I don't know how I'm going to get any work done.

Wait a minute wincement,

You can't go giving your objective opinion based on experience with all three systems. That doesn't fit the way Dave does things.

You need to move to a place that has no gaming systems or an HD-DVD / BD player, or an HDTV for that matter.

Then come back and spout nonsense and one sided propaganda based on nothing but fanboyism. You are totally screwing up the way we do things here, at least for some people.

You are supposed to give your opinion of the PS3 from a continent that is hadn't even launched in yet, claiming to be an owner and it's the best thing since prostitution.

PLEASE THINK before you post valid opinions here. Sheesh.

"...In addition to 1m consoles sold, Hotshots Golf 5 has 300,000 preorders,, so you can add another 1/3rd million to those numbers in a few weeks time, when the game comes out."

This is faulty logic! How does one knows that these 300,000 preorders are from people who don't have the PS3 yet? What about people who have the system already? So, 300,000 more unit sold in a few weeks is indeed a very long stretch of reasoning. Or maybe there is no reasoning at all!!!

As for the game list, that is pretty weak for a new console and I will say PS3 is more advance but I would have still bought the XB360 just for the games it has. I will admit I need it to last 5 more months to make $400 wothwhile!

Indeed, no at least half-way sane person would preorder a game for a console he doesn't have, so with pretty much absolute certainty the preorders come from people who already have a PS3.

Besides that, I bet Hotshot Golf 5 will be just as shortlived as all the other overly hyped Sony ttiles - if you look at the MediaCreate charts, all of the oh-so-great titles dropped out of the charts the second week already.
Take for e.g. the super-duper Rpg FolkSong, which was supposed to be the end-all, be-all, but failed to even reach the Top10 and next week was gone already. Or take Nija Gaiden Sigma - short appearance, next week gone again. Same with My Summer Holidays, which didn't live to see a second week as well.
It will be no different with Hotshot Golf 5 - as soon as it drops from the charts the second week, all the Sony shills will instantly drop it and swarm to another title to hype it up as the best title ever.
Doing that must be really depressing... no wonder the Sony shills always sound so angry and frustrated when they post here.

Eat your heart out Sony Cheerleaders!

http://www.gamesindustry...tent_page.php?aid=26902
Despite taking a USD 1.15 billion charge related to Xbox 360 warranty issues, Microsoft finished the quarter ending June 30 with revenue of USD 13.37 billion and net profit of 3.04 billion.

And how much did Sony lose so far with BD and the PS3?

3 billion.

Coincidence? I think BetaNews planned this whole thing.

You know that's Microsoft as a whole? The games division is losing serious money.

The Xbox warranty costs total 1/3rd of the entire divisions profits..

Not good for the shareholders, methinks.

The Sony losses are also just for the PS3, is does not take into account money made in other Sony sectors, or even the profits from PSP/PS2 sales, which are very strong.

People bend figures to suit their arguments, and you have been fooled by this excat trick it seems.

I have seen many news articles stating that the loss of the POS3 is sucking up any profit that any of the other divisions have made. A company starts frowning whenever 1 division is eating up all their profits. Something drastic better happen with the POS3 or you can kiss it goodbye.

Also with the 360s excellent attach rate(which is better than the POS3 and Wii combined) it will not take long for them to make those losses back. Then add on the savings of switching to the 65nm chip.

I just added 4 new games to my 360 library and still have none for the PS3, and none for the Wii just the 4 I've had for a long time. The choices are on the 360 are second to none. With MS fixing the problems the future is bright for the 360.

I take that back I did get Stardust and Q-bert for the PS3.

Not to mention the great games that are coming out this fall. I am probably literally going to end up almost doubling my game library.

You ludicrous shilling reaches new depths of stupidity.

The cost of the entire XBox enterprise (everything since 2000) comes to around $5 billion.
Microsoft made that (net) in Q1 of this year alone
(nevermind the other 7 years of large profits that actually paid for those costs as they went along).

Your (so obviously) longed for 'share holder anger' is far more likely to be happening with your heros over at Sony.

It is Sony that have posted profits that are tiny when compared and who have done nothing but miss original sales target after sales target.......to the point where they have had to lay people off of work.

You're a deluded fool or a flat-out liar if you seriously think the Sony group as a whole are posting profits anything like Microsofts......or that the low level of Sony profits isn't something that has been happening for years.

This fall will be very bad for the wallet.

Same here.

These are my absolute must haves. I know I am missing something, but this is what I got off the top of my head.
Ace Combat 6
Halo 3
Call of Duty 4
Need for Speed: Pro Street

Here are the ones that I am going to keep an eye on.(At the least they will get a rent) I will likely by quite a few off that list.
Grand Theft Auto IV
Bioshock
Mass Efect
Timeshift
Fracture
Assasin's Creed
Medal of Honor: Airborne
Mercenaries 2
Burnout: Paradise

Again I know I am missing something, but that is all I could think of off the top of my head. I would like to buy em all, but that is like $750-800 worth of games lol.

"methinks."

That sounds like something Steve would say. Hello Steve.

http://www.informationwe...amp;cid=RSSfeed_TechWeb

where the hell do you get the idea of that the cost of the 'XBox enterprise' as you refer to it since 2000 has a total cost of 5 billion? the production/shipping costs alone must be higher than that for the xbox and 360s (costs money to ship 11 million console) then try advertising and oh paying developers for exclusive content on non exclusive games, and then you get into warrenty costs. the xbox division has posted a loss each year, get real.

I thought BetaNews only published articles bashing Sony and the PS3.

How about start pushing up some games? Don't worry about the exclusives, just put out some freaking games. Why is PS3 has anything to do with Blu-Ray when it's a game console? Sure, it plays Blu-Ray, but it's a freaking game console, so start pushing the games out the door.

Do you think WII sell because it's a cheap system? Because there are a lot of fun games.

I agree. I own a PS3, but only own Qbert of all the games - It was an old favorite of mine :)

I have 2 blu-ray movies and have updated my netflix queue for blu-ray. That's the reason I got it, but if there were any good games, I'd get them.

Download SuperstartdustHD. It's 1080p, $8, and is fantastic.

Wow a $500 game machine to play an $8 game now that is a deal.

I will say it is good.

That's a good one. Don't forget about Q-Bert.

I could have downloaded MAME and played the actual authentic Q-Bert arcade game for free but I opted for a $600 machine to play a bad port instead.

I will however buy my first PS3 game when Wip3outHD is released.

Sure carry on pretending QBert is the only game on the system. It makes you look a total jerk.

"Double Post"

LOL! Did he hit a raw nerve? I guess you could have listed all of those "wonderful" games the POS3 has out to counter. Oh wait...

Ok, QBert and SuperstartdustHD. Are you happy now?

I see Mr. Sony shill is still spending every waking hour worrying about Blu-Ray and the PS3.

I would love to know what some of the people that call me a "looser" (must be a member of MENSA) do for a living.

Then there are the ones that attack for no just reason.

YEY

"...he always dodges anything that could make him appear even more idiotic than he already has"

Unlike you that takes every opportunity to appear more idiotic. You are as idiotic and pathetic as they come here.

"What a complete waste of life."

Dude, how about your life? What a complete looser you are! I don't mind people here feeling passionate about their systems. I kind of get it, but you my friend... are the worst. Seriously man, go outside. Get a girl. Get laid... something!!

Oh.. and we get it, there is somebody on here that posts multiple times using different names. Hooray for you! Now here's a cookie.

I agree 100% and then some.

I rarely write but that guy is a complete raving lunatic that rants more then any known thing in the universe.

It appears Stevy missed this the first time through that he didnt respond to it :-D. Here it is again.

http://www.vgchartz.com/?w=9m

Not sure what we are supposed to be looking at? Everyone knows these numbers are predictions based on past sales data.

IT'S NOT ACTUAL SALE DATA...

LMAO!!! I fought with you endlessly about the fact that it is not an accurate source. You wouldn't have any of it. Now that their numbers do not show your beloved POS3 in a favorable light it is suddenly become just predictions? Typical Sony fanboy.

I also recall you and some other Sony fans using that very same site to praise the PS3 in the past. Now suddenly it's not reliable? Did you think no one would remember?

Ok Steve... this is from the site that YOU have quoted in the past:

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php

Let me guess, projected sale data there?

Notice how Steve hasn't respond to any of your posts?

Hmm, are all 3 of you the same person?

Lol sorry to burst your bubble, but I have better things to do than go around creating accounts.

Agreed... I have enough personalities of my own... don't need to have multiple ones online too (no offense siryak... lol)

Yeah, I know... I'm pouting over here, trust me. Feelings bruised and all that... lol

Hmm, the article is about Sony selling a million in Japan. Does the site not show this? Must I show you how to read a chart?

"Everyone knows these numbers are predictions based on past sales data."

I don't know that, prove it to me. It looks accurate to me.

Hello Steve.

This is huge news for Blu-ray if no one has beat me to it. This is one of the big ones that I have been waiting for.

http://bluray.highdefdig...u-ray_this_November/785

LOL...yes this should boost blu-ray sales by at least 100x!!

HEhe, 300 is a must have, but thats on HD-DVD too :'(

Oh yeah I already have that one preordered. They also announced Knocked for HD. That is a great show and I think it is only on HD-DVD.

I still do prefer HD over blo-ray.

Probably not as huge as you might think. While adults will probably pick up the title, its main audience is kids. Kids will want to be able to watch in the car, on vacation.. anywhere they have a DVD player.

Families will likely buy it on DVD. The rest of us might get it on Blu-ray. Its hardly going to convince anyone to go out and buy a player though.

Absolutely, this is probably the largest boon to HD and BR sales. Until there is a portable unit out, sales of DVDs will outpace HD and BR 10 to 1.

I know that as a parent, I am not going to buy a $30+ movie that my kids can only watch on my HDTV. If they can't take it in their rooms, or in the family room, forget it. Funny thing is, I'm not alone in that at all. Hell, my kids get to pick movies at Gamestop from the $9.99 bin (if they're lucky ;-) )

More like 50-100 to 1.

Shape of things to come?

http://www.computerandvi...m/article.php?id=168444

The 60GB unit is at a sweet spot, it's only $20 more than an Elite, it's got Blu-Ray, Wifi and Play and charge kit (all extra $$$ on 360). You can bet Sony will replace the $499 60GB with a $499 80GB when supplies are run down.

The only fly in the ointment, would be if Microsoft dropped the prices of the 360, but they have said that is not going to happen

http://www.boston.com/bu...price_drop_for_xbox_360/

(if they did, then can we call them "Liars" like people here are calling Sony for the same thing?)

Didn't Sony say the 100 dollar price drop was temporary?

Except...Sony isn't making any more 60GB versions...they just have plenty of supply...mainly because nobody bought them!

Also...from what I understand, people don't buy consoles because they have wifi and play and charge kits or it can play movies...they buy them for the games. Unfortunately for the PS3 (and you, apparently since you seem to be married to it) is that it has NO good games out, and the future looks bleak at best.

I got a question for you Ray..since you have such a crush on this thing, why don't you go buy one and play all the games you claim are great on it, and stop wasting time here?

I don't think that most casual gamers care to much about a huge hard drive, they just want to play games. If you wanted a bigger drive you could always add the 120 later if you really wanted to.

I can see MS dropping the price before to long.

Have to love competition.

I believe they did for the US not sure about other regions. Lately I am very cautious what they say.

There's no real price cut, it's just to get rid of the remaining 60GB ones so they can push their 80GB one which costs $100 more for tiny 20GB added and which is crippled by the removal of the Emotion Engine.
It's only for the US, too, Europe just gets two crappy games put in without any price cut at all.

I got a question for you Ray..since you have such a crush on this thing, why don't you go buy one and play all the games you claim are great on it, and stop wasting time here?

Because chavs don't have enough money for a PS3, so they're stuck with worshipping it from afar.

Well as a European PS3 owner, I can say your speaking out your a** on the backwards compatability front. Mine is near perfect. 100% of my games work, a couple have small glitches. most of these games are big hitters, GT4, GTA series, MGS series etc.

As for the $100 price rise, Sony have never said it will rise, they have said nothing, aside from stocks of the 60GB units are being run down. The XBots have raised the suggestion that it when they are gone, the price will go back up to $599. Most analysts agree, that once the 60GB units go, there will be a basic 80GB at $499 to replace it.

No, they have never said that. They have said that the 60GB units are being run down, and IMPLIED that something will replace them. IN all likelyhood, 80GB basic units (with no games) and $499.

Don't worry, Microsoft have said there will be no price drop on the 360.

Lets all wait and then start calling them liars, when it happens.

And you never talk out of yours! You usually do just that.

Noone is going to announce a price drop before it happens. Why would someone buy a console today if they knew it would drop $100 in a month?

Where was the implication something will replace them? I believe all I have read said they were selling a 499 model until the 60GB units were depleted entirely. I don't remember hearing anytning about them continuing to have two price points after that.

"The 60GB unit is at a sweet spot, it's only $20 more than an Elite"

Well not for everyone, still. Who cares about Blu-Ray or Wifi (eithernet is faster anyway)when there aren't to many exclusives games to play on it. I think $500 is still too much to pay when I can already play the same games on the 360.

"The only fly in the ointment, would be if Microsoft dropped the prices of the 360, but they have said that is not going to happen"

Why would they need to? It's already selling better than the PS3.

Sure it is...

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-52919.aspx
DS 97,404
Wii 76,394
PSP 50,890
PS2 43,406
PS3 41,005
X360 35,084
GBA 14,451
GC 1,864
Xbox 11

LMAO! Ok where do I start. That is sales for 1 week! Also the PS3 sales right now are only boosted because of them scaring people into buying one because they are afraid they might not get a price reduction if they don't. Then those sales are also barely above the 360 at all even with the temporary boost in sales.

MS has stated there will be a price drop later this year. Also that article only says no price drop in "Japan." Doesn't say anything about anywhere else.

Wrong, the lower price is only for the models they are clearing out. After that it's gone.

Hey Steve, guess where that post got their data? Oh yeah, from the "not reliable" vgcharts.com... But yet here, it's fact...

Yep.

http://www.vgchartz.com/?w=9m

Thank you come again.

Okay, so you Sony fanboys please explain to me how this works. Every month the Xbox 360 and the Wii both outsell the PS3. The Xbox 360 already has a huge lead over the PS3, yet it still outsells it every month even if it's by a small margin. The Wii is outselling the PS3 by a land slide. So, explain to me how the PS3 is catching up? The gap between the PS3 and the other two consoles is getting wider each month. I'm talking GLOBAL sales here, just in case you feel the urge to quote some random country where the PS3 happens to be doing okay. Not that there is many of those.

I know Steve or one of the other idiots will bring a bunch of random links to random meaningless sites, to show how amazingly well the PS3 is selling. Yes, they must've got a sales boost the last week or so, because of their fake price drop. But let's be honest here, it's been shown every month for the past 3 or 4 months that the Wii is selling the most consoles by far and even the 7 year old PS2 is outselling the PS3. How is it that more people still want the cheap 7 year old technology over this amazing new PS3?

I think I'll start following in the footsteps of the Sony zealots around here and start posting awesome links of my own! Here's one now. Enjoy the hilarity!

http://www.theinquirer.n...ault.aspx?article=41088

What's so funny about that? It's highly likely that the starter pack will be complemented by something with a bigger HDD.

Ultimately, who cares, the PS3 allows you to fit whatever HDD you want. The handbook shows you have to do it, and it does not void your warranty. A 160GB 2.5in SATA drive is $80.

I can think of one competing console, where they charge $120 for a 20GB HDD!!, and lock it down and make it proprietary.

I own a PS3, I picked one up at Circuit City last weekend because of the price cut, 5 Blu-Ray movies, and Circuit City was throwing in a second Wireless controller for free. I managed to get the last unit at my Circuit City so they seem to be selling pretty well now.

Do I think the PS3 will beat the XBox360 or Wii in overall sales? Maybe in YEARS but certainly not anytime soon, but who really cares. A lot of people bought the original Xboxes. The orginal Xbox was OWNED by the PS2 in overall sales. Does that make eveyone who bought an Xbox stupid? No. There is room in the market for everyone, no one is going to go out of business (i.e. pull a Sega) as a result of this generation. Nintendo and Microsoft NEEDED to do well this generation or they probably would have left the market. I really don't see Sony abandoning the entire PS brand just because they aren't #1 in this generation. I have little doubt that the PS3 will turn an overall profit over it's entire production life and while Nintendo and MS might end up making far more that will just make Sony compete all the harder on the PS4 when the time comes.

And they have no real choice but to do that. You can complain about it all you want, but that is why 360 has TV show and movie downloads and PS3 does not.

Only if it were that simple.

"A lot of people bought the original Xboxes. The orginal Xbox was OWNED by the PS2 in overall sales. Does that make eveyone who bought an Xbox stupid? No."

Who called anyone stupid? I certainly didn't. I was simply pointing out the fact that all the Sony fanboys are delusional, because they think the PS3 is doing better than the other consoles. This is obviously not the case.

"There is room in the market for everyone, no one is going to go out of business (i.e. pull a Sega) as a result of this generation. Nintendo and Microsoft NEEDED to do well this generation or they probably would have left the market."

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Yes, Nintendo may have exited the console market if they didn't do well this generation. Microsoft, not a chance. Microsoft is a company who can afford to lose billions and it still won't hurt the company. Sony on the other hand is not in such a position. They're a much smaller company compared to Microsoft and posting a $3 billion dollar loss on the PS3 has shareholders worried. This is on top of all the other losses and PR Sony has been receiving lately. The rootkit fiasco and exploding batteries are still fresh in everyone's memory.

I'm sure the Sony cheerleaders will be quick to point out that Sony is doing well in other areas, such as LCD television. But those profits are being swallowed up by the gigantic losses from the PS3.

Also, if you're waiting for the PS4, don't hold your breath. Sony said they expect the PS3's life cycle to be at least 10 years, which is ridiculous of course. It's not even a year old and the hardware is already obsolete. This is how it goes in the console world.

"I can think of one competing console, where they charge $120 for a 20GB HDD!!, and lock it down and make it proprietary."

Yes, and I can think of a console where they force their DRM infested HD format on you and it's a huge chunk of the console's price. Talk about choices.

I love how you picked one single sentence out of my comment and replied, completely ignoring the bigger part about the PS3 being out sold by every other console month after month. You're so funny. :)

A. That link was hilarious... It really goes to show what Sony thinks of the various geographic and demographic audiences they have. Simply amazing --> "You live in Europe sooooo, we're just gonna charge you the full price that those yanks over in the US can get cheaper. Deal with it"...

B. Steve doesn't have time to reply to entire posts; there are so many posts that he is completely wrong in that he has to reply to first just to defend his precious Sony.

I dare say that I would be 100% fair to both the MSFT and Sony camps, but messing with Steve just has way too much enjoyment attached to it.

I don't know what you are classifying as a "Sony fanboy". If Sony fanboys are only the delusional pro-Sony no matter what nuts then it's kind of redundant point out that people who you have specifically limited to those who are delusional... are in fact delusional. It's kind of like saying if we limit all games to RPG's then all games are RPGs.

If however you consider anyone who would willingly purchase a PS3 over a Xbox360 to be a Sony fanboy (and this is what I was assuming you meant in my first post) then I am a Sony fanboy by that definition because I bought a PS3 and have no intention of picking up an Xbox360. If I am Sony Fanboy though then your claim that "all the Sony fanboys are delusional, because they think the PS3 is doing better then the other consoles." is obviously not the case because as a Sony Fanboy, I do not think they are doing better. That was the point of my original post only I tried (unsuccessfully apparently) to convey the point in far less words.

I'm not convinced that MS would have stuck around if the Xbox360 had failed. Sure they are a much bigger company but the Xbox division just drags down the rest of the company. MS makes their money on OS and Office software primarily and there's only so long they would have stuck to a failing project. On the other hand the Playstation related parts of Sony are a MUCH bigger part of Sony's bottom line then Xbox will ever be at MS and so I don't see Sony exiting the market after just one console generation where it didn't take #1. It's doesn't really matter though because neither of us can prove either way what WOULD have happened had the Xbox360 failed because it didn't. It's doing quite well and so MS will certainly stay in the market for the foreseeable future now.

And I'm not WAITING for the PS4. I don't know where you got that from I already said I bought a PS3 and I happen to be very happy with it. As for the 10 years thing I don't know what is so difficult for you people to understand but when Sony says that they are referring to how long the console will be produced, NOT how long it will be before the next one comes out. Guess how long the PS1 was produced... 11 years... guess how long the PS2 has been produced... 7 years now and they JUST released a new hardware revision. It stands to reason that the PS2 will hit around 10 years also and so it's reasonable to assume the PS3 will likewise be manufactured for 10 years. That doesn't mean the PS4 won't come out several years before then just as the PS1 was still being made for years after the PS2 launch and the PS2 will still be made for years after the PS3 launch.

Simply AMAZING what a $100 difference can do!

Granted, most will still spend that $100 on a game and some accessories, but ultimately that is what drives the console and where the money is made, in the Accessories and the Software (Games).

I remember working a retail store when the PS2 came out. We all remember it retailed for $200 and even that we thought was high. Well, my Employee price was $212 (No Typo, it was MORE), but the games that retailed for $50... Employee price on them was $9!

So weather you are in the market for a PS3 or not, I would say take advantage that it is now $499 or also look at it as the cheapest BLU-RAY Player on the Market.

gall damn the wii is almost at total world sales figures as the xbox 360 and that had a year headstart. I bet the wii would sell more if you could find them that is, I will buy one once I can actually find one. I can now find a ps3 and 360 on store shelves now with no desire to buy it.

You can buy a wii if you are willing to pay a high premium for one- like 521 for a bundle last time I checked...

1 million units. That's 1% (yep, one percent) of the PS2 market.

Good job Sonny.

Yep, and the PS2 has been out 7 years.
So your point is?

the ps3 has been out for 6 months right? So...assuming PS3 sales don't fall (which they most likely continue to do as they have been)...in another 6 months it would be 2%, in 7 years...the PS3 would have sold 14% of what the PS2 sold...success!!

The point is that the PS2 STILL outsells the PS3 daily, weekly, and monthly.

If the PS3 is so superior, how is it outsold STILL by a 7 year old system?

Basically the PS2 is solid proof that price is the absolute main factor. The average consumer does not know, nor do they care what "almighty" power the PS3 has.

The Xbox 360 sales figures in Japan make me giggle.

Giggle at the Japanese mainly for their allegiance to their country's products.

They really are atrocious sales figures considering it's been out a year longer (roughly).

I love how Betanews try to put a negative spin on even positive Sony news.

In addition to 1m consoles sold, Hotshots Golf 5 has 300,000 preorders, so you can add another 1/3rd million to those numbers in a few weeks time, when the game comes out.

http://ps3.qj.net/Japane...-Golf-5/pg/49/aid/95099

Things are ramping up quickly in Japan it seems. It took them a while to warm to the PS3. The game lineup is quickly convincing people... Many of these are ONLY available on Playstation..

- Lair (PS3 Exclusive)
- Heavenly Sword (PS3 Exclusive)
- Unreal Tournament (PS3 Exclusive until May 2008)
- Haze (PS3 Exclusive)
- Killzone 2 (PS3 Exclusive)
- Final Fantasy XII (PS3 Exclusive)
- Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3 Exclusive)
- Little Big Planet (PS3 Exclusive)
- Uncharted Drake's Fortune (PS3 Exclusive)
- PES 7
- GTA 4
- Ratchet and Clank : Tools Of Destruction (PS3 Exclusive)
- Stranglehold
- GT5 : Prologue (PS3 Exclusive)
- Warhawk (PS3 Exclusive)
- Folklore (PS3 Exclusive)
- Call of Duty 4
- Rock Band
- Devil May Cry 4
- Assassin's creed (PS3 Exclusive until mid 2008)

I'm sure there are more, these are just the big hitters in the next 6-10 months.

You know, I read this thinking it was a fair article that happened to compare Sony's progress to that of its competitors. Then Steve jumps in and says Betanews put a negative spin on it...and I'm not one bit surprised. Christ give up the act already.

Heres positive news for ya.

http://www.vgchartz.com/?w=9m

Those sales numbers are just SAD!!!

"so you can add another 1/3rd million to those numbers in a few weeks time"

You are a retard, what makes you think that 1/3 aren't the people that already own the damn thing? These people are so desperate for games that they actaully are willing to buy a golfing game....

PS, Like all you fanboys know, forget about the Wii sales figures since it is not a real console :'(

Lets be honest, it's not exactly a unbiased article. It makes excuses for Microsoft's dire performance, and highlights Sony's underperformance. Neither of which are actually of little relevance to the point of the article.

"Microsoft has always struggled to do well in the region, so its low sales numbers are not altogether surprising. However, Sony has always performed well in Asia, easily outselling its rivals."

It's not actually a lie though, is it.

A fanboy is blind to all forms of reason.

Actually, the point of the article is Sony's underperformance. A company that has dominated the last 2 generations of gaming consoles is not, this time around; and given that past dominance, it's surprising that it's taken them this long to hit the million unit mark.

I don't really think that they were making excuses for MS either. Given their past track record in this territory, no one is really surprised with their performance. It's not an excuse...just a statement.

http://kotaku.com/gaming...ultiplatform-245427.php

unless there is a new article I am missing because there is hundreds of articles that state otherwise that dmc4 is not a sony exclusive.

Yep, sorry, DMC4 is multi-platorm, corrected.

Haze is also only a timed exclusive.

"In addition to 1m consoles sold, Hotshots Golf 5 has 300,000 preorders, so you can add another 1/3rd million to those numbers in a few weeks time,"

What? Steve now your just talking nonsense. 300,000 preorders does not = 300,000 console sales sorry.

Also Assassins Creed is NOT a timed exclusive. They will be releasing at the same time in November for BOTH consoles.

Unless I was hallucinating when I thought I was playing it and beat it, I'm pretty sure that Final Fantasy XII isn't a PS3 exclusive... PS exclusive maybe, but not PS3 exclusive.

Also, according to the sites I see, Assassins Creed is SAYING that it releases the same day for PS3, X360, and the DS. Are the stores wrong?

Dry your eyes Steve.

Your simpering whine over your beloved Sony is becoming such an embarrassment.

Sony needs something else, the only thing I can find of interest on the ps3 would be final fantasy 13 plus killzone 2 looks great but then again killzone 1 looked awesome until it was released then, meh.

maybe its just me but I can't see people running to buy a $500 machine for hot shots golf.

That is kind of where my thoughts were at...

Wow.. you really care! LOL...

Wow you make it sound like the PS3 is the only one that has exclusives guess what, it's not. You would think that Hos Shots golf is the best game teh system has to offer the way you hype it up. I hope not since that is a very gay golf game.

You can tell by looking at the PSP numbers and PS3

Can't wait for MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/w...mode=related&search=

You know the Japanese market?

Sad fuks like you are always implying that PS3 has lost all it's exclusives.

THe reality, is that 360 has gained some previous PS exclusives. PS3 has moved on, PS3 has NEW exclusives, plus the old ones on multi-plat.

What's sad is that you have to call people vulgar names in order to defend a console.

Resort to name calling that is so mature. You obviously can not read. Let me say it again you make it sound like the PS3 is the only game system on the planet that has exclusive titles. Well guess what it does not. Wii has exclusives, 360 has them and so does the PS3. You must be really desperate since I said only stated the obvious. Then again maybe you actually do think that the PS3 is the only system that has exclusives. Maybe some day you will grow up a little and not resort to foul language when you are shown the door.

And by the way I don't see were I said that it lost all its exclusives. Once again you put words into people's mouths, very sad!

Are you implying that you do?

I would be very surprised if even 5% of those preorders are from people that don't already have a PS3.

That is like saying that the 360 is going to sell 2 million more units because that is how many are preordered Halo3. Not likely.

Will it help sales, yes but the numbers stated.

"In addition to 1m consoles sold, Hotshots Golf 5 has 300,000 preorders, so you can add another 1/3rd million to those numbers in a few weeks time, when the game comes out."

Great logic you got going there Steve! Halo 3 has 2 million preorders...so add 2 million xbox 360 consoles to the current market share and widen the gap!

Aren't they in the process of losing MGS as an exclusive?

Don't go there these shills will call you all kinds of profain names for even suggesting that.

I would not be surprised since companies have to be concerned about sales and even more so attach rate of games. The God aweful games at launch may have something to do with the rate.

I would love to see the shills when and if this does happen.

And how is that bias? It is reporting on past performance. Xbox 360 sales aren't great because they've never done well there. PS3's sales look good because they've always dominated the market in Asia. How do you report that in a different way?

But the PS3 does have the least amount of exclusives, even compared to the Wii.

http://www.psu.com/node/11782

Thank you come again.

The rumor of MGS coming to the 360 is not dead yet either. There was a rumor in the OXM magazine about it coming to the 360. So I wont be a surprised a bit of it comes to the 360. But personally I don't really care. That game in all honesty didn't really impress me. It was so bland that it almost looked black and white. Also there really wasn't anything innovative about it.

Ofcourse he does! Sony Cheerleaders are equipped with a special crystal ball that tells them EVERYTHING! /sarcasm

What's even sadder is that people are defending consoles!

*still laughing*

Lost some previous PS exclusives?! Well WTH do you think that happened there?! The PS3 has been such a flop so far game-wise (it's lackluster launch lineup didn't help much either). Most of the companies that were producing these exclusive titles had to cut bait and return to where the money was guaranteed. Attach rates mean the world to a game studio and if you ain't got 'em, you ain't got 'em. Guess what? Sony ain't got them with the PS3... Why do you think there are still game studios producing PS2 titles!?

PS3 has moved on... uhhh, yeah, there really is no other way to move, is there? What are they supposed to do, try and resurrect some old PS1 and PS2 games and call them exclusives?

PS3 has new exclusives... yeah, at double the cost to the dev houses and tons of fees that Sony had to pay to even get some of these developers to produce the "exclusive" games. Add to that the nightmare that Sony calls a SDK (of which is part of my nightmare right now) and you quickly start to see why these companies turned tail from Sony and all their legal BS and nearly impossible to develop for SDK.

Nope, Assassin's Creed is multi-platform. Ubisoft Montreal released that a couple of months ago to GameInformer.

ROFLAMO

The 360 has 10x better exclusives than the POS3 right now. The only thing they have that looks good is Killzone, and that is a ways away and "could" still turn out to be a flop.

That's exactly my thoughts. Ever since Metal Gear 1 I never really saw what was so great about it. I tried to play it but lost interest and stopped playing it about half way through the game.

I'd play Splinter Cell over it any day.

Isn't that what he said?

I was confirming what he said -->

"Also, according to the sites I see, Assassins Creed is SAYING that it releases the same day for PS3, X360, and the DS. Are the stores wrong?"

"Nope [the stories aren't wrong]."

See?

Ohhhhhhhh :)

Any reports that say MGS is coming to 360, is just wishful thinking. Anyone that buys a 360 in the hope it may, it wasting their money.

Except it flawed, plenty of missing PS3 exlcusives.

No Gran Turismo 4
No Metal Gear Solid 4
No WipeoutHD
No Unreal Tournament 2007
No The Agency
No Final Fantasy XIII
No The Getaway
No God of War 3

Whoops, Xbox360 is now in last place.. Don't you just love biased articles like that..

I didn't say it would happen. I said it "could" happen. Not that I care, because the game doesn't look that great. Either way this is one of those rumors that just wont die, and those are usually the ones that become reality.

Nah. UT is a VERY short timed exclusive. Not enough really long enough to call it an exclusive. Then Haze is also a timed exclusive. Not to mention the fact that the 360s exclusives are pretty muchly all better than anything exclusive to the POS3.

Splinter Cell is better.

Your post is flawed. Their talking about games coming out in the near future or games that you can pre-order at EB Games/Gamestop. Most of the games you listed don't have a release date yet or is TBA. I could also list a bunch of 360 games that are TBA too, but that's not the point.

Nice try though.

Who cares anyway, Splinter Cell is better anyway. I don't think anyone would buy a system for MGS anyway. Halo 3, yes, but I don't think MGS.

6 Months for UT is not short at all. Once the disappointment of Halo3 sinks in, people will be desperate for this on 360...

As for Haze, it's a PS3 exclusive, confirmed at E3, it's coming out on PC later.

Halo 3 disappointment like what they said for Halo 2. Oh the game sucks then look what happened millions sold, millions of games played, and better yet still being played online. Not to bad for a game that sucks. Maybe one day you will wake up and take your head out of your ars and realize that there are other systems and other good games then what is on the PS3.

People might cut you a little slack if you were not so one sided. Your blind loyalty indicates only one thing you are stupid, paid by Sony, or both.

Follow me, guys: Wii. Repeat it again: Wii. PS3 is like a futuristic cyborg with no stock in present :-p

Took long enough.

Is that all?

Jebus, they really are in deep sh*t if this is the best they can manage in their home market.

I agree, I would have thought Japan would be snapping these up alot faster ???