One thing I would love see stats on is if nintendo shipped more then 259,000 units. I work in a major chain electronics retail store. We generally recieve 4 shipments of 6-15 wii's a month. We always have more then 15 people waiting outside before opening every shipment day whether we get Wii's or not. I really don't see us closing the store with a Wii still on the shelf before summer. Now when it comes to ps3's, all but 1 during the launch week was returned when people failed to get the thousands of dollars they heard they could get on ebay for them. We have sold under 15 ps3's in total since launch and we have not been able to meet a request for a ps3 since december. I don't own either one myself, but I do see the sales of each on a daily basis so I really have to wonder when I see an article like this.

PS3 sucks, Sony has really disappointed me. I was such a big fan I bought their first slim viao laptop when it came out but over the past 16 months they have really failed a lot of people.

I still think the PS3 looks awesome. Motorstorm looks insane, and I don't usually like racing games. I think what's deterring most would-be buyers is the price tag. Dropping 660USD just to play one game is a pretty big investment for most people.

can't we all just get a long a play some FRIGGIN' video games w/o all this childish arguing? JUST BUY THEM ALL!!!!! :) THEY ARE ALL GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYBODY FANBOY!!!! YAY!!!!!

lol...

I wish I could afford them all. I'd buy them in a heart-beat. Alas... this poor college student doesn't make enough to support his PC gaming; let alone any additional systems.

Consoles come and consoles go.

Seems like the honeymoon is over for the wii...

It beggars belief that anyone would want to own an electronic device from a company that willingly wants to put backdoors on your computers (Rootkits) Then spin a load of crap to people as if they are politicians.

Go PS3!

Steve,

You need to take off that silly Sony cheerleader outfit and become a man. Your one sided opinions are really tired and old. Everything Sony is great and everything Microsoft sucks according to you. Betanews could post a story about a PS3 causing a skyscraper to burn down and you would be in here defending them along with DaveBG.

I thought for a while you were Sony employees but I see your posts are too monosyllabic and juvinile to be anyone with a real job.

FYI, Sony and Microsoft both suck hard. The 360 is a noisy oven and the PS3 is a cheap BD player. You and Dave are sad, pathetic freaks with no social life. What the hell is wrong with you?

You can always spot a complete loser by how seriously they deal with something as stupid as a video game system. You have to be one of those people who has 50 online "freinds" but barely enough gas money to pick up your own paycheck.

You two are just sad retards.

"he 360 is a noisy oven and the PS3 is a cheap BD player."

Yes, that's about right. The 360 is a nasty, unreliable, noisy oven, and the PS3 is a cheap but decent Blu-Ray player.. It's also a kickass games console and media player.

I hope you are going to commit suicide after reading this Reuters article:

Blu-ray burning its high-def DVD rival
http://www.reuters.com/a...s/idUSN2220834920070423

What does ANY of your post have to do with this article or Hollywood's comment? You just showed your ignorance in the grandest form.

Please troll elsewhere, Sony Cop.

Only fanboys commit suicide over something so mundane...

Lol...This means nothing Dave. The format war has not even begun yet. Not until the average consumer starts adopting.

kickass game console with a crappy controller design and no good games...Also the PS3 is far from cheap.

Microsoft gaming labelled a "disastrous endeavour"

http://www.theinquirer.n...ault.aspx?article=39096

You really should read what you post as this has been posted already by you, I believe. Its just commenting on that idiots blog that has already been advised; he has no clue what he is talking about.

Of course, this guy: 'Investment advisor Roger Ehrenberg of Forbes' knows everything about video games. lmao.

I thank you for your continuous amusement.

Whwre's Mr. "I dont't own a PS3 or BD player but I'll stick my big nose in every post" DaveBG?

For a Sunday morning I have enjoyed your banter. No matter if you favor the PS,XBOX, or WII you can’t argue the fact there is a distinct difference in the customer when it comes to Nintendo VS the other 2. My son plays his GameCube all the time and wants a Wii. He has no interest in Sony "They don’t have Mario games" I on the other hand prefer Xbox because my hands are bigger and prefer the controllers. And hands down XBOX has something the other 2 will never be able to compete with

"HALO"

same "(console of choice) has something the other 2 will never be able to compete with (exclusive)" that sony fans used when the original xbox came out with regards to squaresoft and rockstar products.
im a playstation owner but playstation is no where on top. its behind in handheld and in third in 'next gen' and tied for second.. of out two in new video formats. but its also the only company that competes in all three areas, im under the impression that if the competitors had put a third less r&d into a either area, the products would not have turned out the quality they have. sony is established in the markets they sell to but if they do poorly in one or two areas immediately it doesn't mean that sony is a dieing company..
nothing is exclusive for a lifetime, mac was first anti mircosoft and yet... bootcamp, its foolish to keep exclusivity when it hinders profits of an established market.

I already use my PS3 for Resistance on an almost daily basis. Once Insomniac releases the update that makes online play global, that's nearly a million people I can play with.

I have friends in other countries with a PS3 too. It will be fun.

1.3 million people actually..

http://www.next-gen.biz/...mp;id=5305&Itemid=2

sweet...you can play one substandard game (when compared to other games that are actually GOOD, but not available on the PS3 ofcourse) with 1.3 million people! That's definetly worth $600 for me.

Oh btw...did I mention that I can play hundreds of 360 games with 10 million people worldwide? I payed 50% less then you did also...ah well to each his own I guess...

hundreds of crappy games...

Lets face it, Gears Of War is the only decent 360 title to date worth playing, and looking at the recent Halo 3 footage, that's nothing to write home about, with average graphics and some serious physics problems.

Substandard?

http://reviews.cnet.com/...05-9992_7-31414822.html

8.6 / 10

For a launch title, that's very respectable. better than most 360 launch titles, if I recall..

its called BETA you do know what the term means right? its UNFINISHED

oh, you are just too good. I will never have to watch a comedy show ever again. I will just read your barbaric posts. Way too funny.

One sided. Yet funny.

ROFL!!! Steve you obviously do not know what you are talking about. There are a very large amount of EXCELLENT games on the 360. You are just pulling stuff out of the air now. You haven't even played a single one so you know that Gears of War is the only one worth playing how? Never ceases to amaze me how much BS you are full of.

O Steve...How many times have you been wrong today? O well here goes one more.

http://reviews.cnet.com/...661.html?tag=prod.txt.3
Project Gotham Racing 3 - 8.8
http://reviews.cnet.com/...790.html?tag=prod.txt.4
Call of Duty 2 - 8.8
http://reviews.cnet.com/...129.html?tag=prod.txt.1
Perfect Dark Zero - 9.0
http://reviews.cnet.com/...568.html?tag=prod.txt.2
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - 9.6
http://reviews.cnet.com/...800.html?tag=prod.txt.1
Dead or Alive 4 - 8.8
http://reviews.cnet.com/...018.html?tag=prod.txt.1
Kameo: Elements of Power - 8.7
http://reviews.cnet.com/...885.html?tag=prod.txt.4
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter(Released shortly after launch) - 9.2

O Steve where did you go?!?

Wii sales dropped? Isn't that weird how that happened when supplies are very low...it's almost as if not being able to find one in stores has an effect on sales. How interesting.

lol

That is true. As a contrast: I still see at least 3 PS3's at every major store I go to that sells electronics. They're not hard to find at all.

Hmmm...Nintendo made their '06 forecast of 6 million shipped, therefore they opted to hold off on shipping Wiis so they could stockpile them a little. This will allow FY '07 to start off with a bang (release a bunch of Wiis in time to coincide with the launch of Pokemon DS? Sounds like a winner to me), and make investors very happy at the start of the year. Look for a HUMONGOUS Wii rebound in April.

...it's the end of April. They'd better hurry up.

I haven't researched, but the sales drop for Wii's could be becuase there isn't any to buy. I can't find any at any of my local stores anyway. I bought one for my brother (for his birthday) and I want to get one for myself too.

I still cant find a Wii in a store.

Wii's are around. My local BestBuy (Sacramento) had about 10 of them on the shelves when I went in last weekend.

It's kind of funny that only the PS3 fanboys seem to be able to easily find Wii's...hmmmm.

Another odd one is that everybody is able to find PS3's rotting on store shelves except the three Sony fanboys on this forums...

Maybe all Sony's fans live in the same town which would explain why they can't find them?

Funny how anyone that says anything bad about the 360 or Microsoft is automatically a PS3 fanboy..

Yah, thats because they USUALLY are.

1. He didn't say ANYTHING about MS or the 360
2. You OBVIOUSLY don't know Ray Dorset, Betanews's Sony Employee of the Month.

Most Wii sales are going straight to eBay for scalping.

At least the PS2 is out selling the Wii again. :)

alphatrigon

Did you even rid the article?

Nintendo is has sold more units every month since its release. It was/is first place for March, and will continue to sell well.

Based on the fact it only dropped 23% same percentage mind you, means there were more units in March overall.

I still can't walk into Walmart to buy a Wii, but there are 2 PS3 that are the public eye (who knows what they have in the back ).

sure I read the article...they are only talking about current or recent months sales right?
So I will ask you then go research myself, to date, how many Xbox360s, PS3s, Wiis have been sold and how many months has it been for each?

So far, slightly over 1.3M Wii's sold in the US. Compared to slightly over 500,000 for the PS3. So, basically a 2:1 sales ration. Check IGN and look around. I can find PS3s in tons of stores. Wiis not so easy. More then that, game developers are quickly turning to Wii.

But here's the bigger factor:

Nintendo is MAKING A PROFIT on every Wii it sales. And an average Wii owner has so far spent more then $100 in software, with a part of that being Virtual Console.

Sony is LOSING money on every PS3 it sells.

Who do you think is happier? You're outselling the competition more then 2:1, you're making a profit, or.. you're getting beat up by the competition and you're bleeding money on ever sell.. ?

I love this. Wii sales dropped drastically, but were still much higher than any other console.

Makes sense. The Wii is awesome. Now if I could just save up enough to get a PS3... =p

Its halarious!

Now that the Wii hype is dying down, Sony will continue to rise to the top - the elite 360 is a sign that MS is scared of what's to come.

Incase you have problems reading the 360 is still outselling the PS3 even though the PS3 just came out. Also the reason why they made an elite is because there was people complaining about the HDD being to small and no HDMI, so to satisfy their customers(gasp) they gave them what they wanted. If anyone should be scared it should be Sony with their lacking sales compared to the 360 and the Wii.

"the elite 360 is a sign that MS is scared of what's to come."

Oh yeah, and what's that? An even HIGHER priced PS3? Now that Sony is phasing out the 20GB model, you have no choice but to buy the pricier 60G model. I'm sure Microsoft is reeeeal scared of that. Trust me, if Microsoft were scared of the PS3 at all, we would've seen a price drop already. They have a very comfortable lead and they know it. Right now the PS3 is not a threat to Microsoft at all. They know Sony absolutely cannot lower the price of the PS3, in fact, they have to increase it and STILL lose tons of money.

I mean, just look at the numbers from March. The Wii, Xbox360 and the 7 year old PS2 *ALL* outsold the PS3. 'nuff said.

or maybe your mom itz scare of that... everyone knows that sony sucks but the sony's "fanboys/girls"

Your funny.
What a joke.

The X-Box 360 Elite is coming out well ahead of the next version of the PS3. Sony's big news to fight off the Elite is to stop selling their low end version of the PS3.

the funny thing, is you actually believe this...

The reality:

For years, people have been asking for bigger HDD and HDMI. Microsoft told them a cable would be available, fanboys pointed to a page on the LikSang website that showed it. Microsoft then told you that no cable was coming, and you had to buy a new console..

People have been asking for HDD upgrades, Microsoft however made you buy propiterry Microsoft HDD's, a 20GB model costing $120, and now $180 for the 120GB upgrade.

You can talk all you want, but 3.2 million sales to date (sold to end users, not Microsoft shipped BS), is pretty decent.

Funny how Steve Austin's entire comment in a Sony article is about Microsoft. "Wii Sales Drop in March" is actually better news than "PS3 US Sales Stabilize" since the Wii is still outselling the PS3, even after the sales drop. I guess when you only see negative Sony news, it's easier to just bash Microsoft.

MS never told them a cable would be available. Your a spouting pure BS. Also what makes you so dam sure that that is sold to end users and not shipped. Also what makes you so sure that MS numbers are shipped. You are yet again spouting more BS. Any other BS you want to spout?

"You can talk all you want, but 3.2 million sales to date (sold to end users, not Microsoft shipped BS), is pretty decent. "

LOL that is awesome...so you're telling me, that a news article, in the same paragraph...would tell you the units sold for PS3 and compare them to units shipped of 360?

Can you pass some of that stuff you're smoking this way? It must be great stuff...

I like how you concentrate your MS bashing on a proprietary hard drive enclosure but don't mention anything about all the great games that are out for it, and the even more that are coming out! (you know...games is what matters, right?).

I'm willing to put alot of money that steve here would have done alot of bashing about the shape and size of the 360 had it looked like the PS3. I don't need to actually bash the PS3 shape...there's just too much other stuff wrong with it.

For years?? 360 has been out about a year and half.

And as others stated, MS never said a cable would be out - MS always stated that when the deman was there for it, they would release it - they never stated how.

And there is a huge reason MS has proprietary hard drives. Downloads. Does the PS3 or Wii offer TV shows or rentable movies?

"For years" Lies! It's only been out less than two years.

"HDMI" Lies! No one cares about HDMI except you and Sony Fangirls.

"Microsoft told them a cable would be available" Lies! They said they might come out with one if/when there's a demand for them.

"a 20GB model costing $120" Lies! (It's $99.99)

Now who's talkig the BS?

"you know...games is what matters, right" Games matter?!?! On a GAMING platform!?! Bah! Perish the thought!

"No one cares about HDMI"

(wonders why Microsoft bothered with the Elite..)

"there's just too much other stuff wrong with it."

For instance?

120gb HD. HDMI was just a bonus and just so that the Sony fangirls have one less thing to say the BS3 has.

Well just to start:

- You can get basically the same games on both the PS3 and 360.
- The online isn't quite as good as the 360's... There's more people to play with on Xbox Live too.
- The PS3 has the least amount exclusives compared the 360 AND the Wii!
- I can download movies and shows on Xbox Live
- Sony removed the Emotion Engine but charges more in Europe
- The graphics are basically the same on the PS3 and 360
- Developers are loosing their faith in the PS3 (here are some games were supposed to be or that started as PS3 exclusives that are now on Xbox 360; Devil May Cry 4, Unreal Tournament 2007, Assassins Creed, Virtual Fighter 4, Fatal Inertia, Grand Theft Auto 4 (now with exclusive episodic content on Xbox Live), Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War, Final Fantasy, Mercenaries, Ace Combat and Metal Gear Solid 4 is Rumored)
- Xbox 360 has more games available
- And all this for $200 less than the PS3 (or $350 less if you decide to get the Wii instead).

Where'd the Sony fangirls go?

They generally don't respond unless there's a way to twist facts into positive PS3 news...it's just getting too hard to do that so you don't see them respond to posts that prove them wrong.

You really do believe that lot don't you...

PS3 also had GTA4 exclusive content:

http://www.eurogamer.net...le.php?article_id=68768

And being Blu-Ray based, won't be crippled by the limitations of the DVD9...

Developers losing faith? Think not..

http://www.next-gen.biz/...mp;id=5241&Itemid=2

http://www.psu.com/node/5822

Duh, of course 360 has more games out, it's been out over a year. However if you want to include PS1 and PS2 titles, then PS3 has more.

The Graphics on the PS3 and 360 are CURRENTLY similar (although many games still look better on the PS3, Oblvion for example, looks MUCH better). A year from now, the 360 will have reached it's limit, and the PS3 will be getting better faster..

Its already been proven that games do not have to have life-like graphics to sell, case in point look at the wii. So long as Sony releases the same games as Xbox and doesn't get more exclusives its not going to be going up in sales anytime soon.

Exactly. Lifelike graphics don't mean squat if the game isn't fun. Why do you think WiiPlay outsold every PS3 game by big margins even though it has graphics that could have probably been done on a PS1?

in fairness wii graphics are slightly above xbox 1 especially zelda

So the 360 has exclusive content too.
The games are not crippled by the limitations of the DVD9 you are just spouting more BS as usual.
Developers are losing faith. The PS3 has lost several exclusives already.

PS3 Loses Another Exclusive, Virtua Fighter 5 Comes To 360
http://kotaku.com/gaming...comes-to-360-223566.php
Devil May Cry 4 no longer a Playstation 3 exclusive
http://www.joystiq.com/2...playstation-3-exclusive/
PS3 loses more exclusives
http://www.joystiq.com/2...3-loses-more-exclusives/
More PS3 exclusives head to 360
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6162235.html
PS3 could lose FFXIII as an exclusive
http://www.computerandvi...m/article.php?id=160471

Also the 360 and PS3 are pretty much equal in power. The 360 has a better GPU and the PS3 has a better CPU. The 360 also has more RAM than the PS3. Any more BS for today?

There's plenty of space for game data on DVD9. If not they can just put it on multiple disc's. Currently all the games are on just one DVD and there’s only one planned so far that’s going to be multiple discs, Unreal Tournament 2007. [And by the way, if there are more multi disc games coming... who cares that's not the point. The point is DVD9 doesn't cripple the 360. Blu-Ray just makes the PS3 $200 more and because Sony wanted to force Blu-Ray upon you.]

And how is talking about how hard it is to program for the PS3 mean that developers aren’t loosing their faith in the PS3?

"Duh, of course 360 has more games out, it's been out over a year."

That was my point. Duh.

"However if you want to include PS1 and PS2 titles, then PS3 has more."

Who cares about PS1 and PS2 games. Isn't that what your PS1 and PS2 is for (which you probably already own)? You don't buy a PS3 to play PS2 and PS1 games.

I still don't think the graphics will get much better on the PS3. Most multi platform games, if not all, will develop for the 360 then will be just port over to the PS3 (most PS3 games will most likely be multi platform too). Just like it was in the PS2 and Xbox 1 days.

By the way there was an Oblivion patch which fixed a few things and also tweaked the graphics for the 360, the same way they did on the PS3, so now there basically the same (I saw in a video from the developer on 1up.com... I can't seem to find it right now, but I'll find it and link it if you really want me to). So now you get the same graphics and content as on the PS3 (the bonus PS3 content 'Nights of the Nine' is available on Xbox Live, plus more expansions) plus now there's Shivering Isle's (currently only available on Xbox 360).

Steve!!!....You seem to have disappeared again...You are getting pretty good at that.

Awwhhh, it's off the front page. They probably won't respond now.

I'm still impressed that the PS2 is more than doubling up the PS3. That tells me all I need to know.

That tells me all I need to know.

...that people would rather buy a 7-year-old console than the shiny new "must-have" console Sony told everyone the PS3 would be?

its pretty funny, isnt it?

Indeed $80 PS2 owners today will be $120 PS3 owners in 3 years time...

Good new for Sony, at the low end people are favoring PS2 over WII, and at the high end, people are favoring PS3 over the 360..

PS2 is $80, PS3 is $499

Totally different markets. Even a fool can see this..

However it does mean peole prefer the PS2 over the WII..

O really? How do you figure the high end is favoring PS3 over 360. Looks to me like the 360 has been outselling the PS3 every month. The 360 has the better games this round. This is the PS2 vs Xbox in reverse.

Well in Europe, the PS3 is already outselling the 360, and in the US, the 360 sales are decling and the PS3 sales are rising.

"Well in Europe, the PS3 is already outselling the 360"

Oh really? It hasn't even been a month since the PS3 launched in Europe, OF COURSE it's going to outsell the 360. Keep in mind the PS3 is a year behind the 360, yet the 360 is STILL outselling the PS3 in the US. No matter how blinded you are, that HAS to tell you something.

Let's just wait a few more months and then we'll see how the PS3 stands in Europe. I'll give you a hint; stalled sales and PS3s collecting dust on shelves in every store.

"Indeed $80 PS2 owners today will be $120 PS3 owners in 3 years time..."

Yeah, you're assuming quite a bit there. First, will Sony's gaming division even be around in three year's time? As it stands, it doesn't look good and it's definitely debatable. Second, a $120 PS3 in three years? In your wet Sony dreams. I doubt very much the PS3 will drop below $199 during the entire cycle of the product, so $120 is completely out of the question. I would go as far as saying that $199 in 5 years is a pipe dream too.

PS3 is not gathering dust on the shelves in Europe. I like how the Microsoft paid shill s here make out that it is.

Out of the 1,000,000 European units, after 3 weeks, there are less than 200,000 left.

That's not gathering dust...

"First, will Sony's gaming division even be around in three year's time?"

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/070412/3/308pe.html

As for the price, of course it will drop that low eventually. The PS3 is no more expensive that the PS2 was when it launched in 2000, it's now $80..

based on your comments, it's obvious you have no idea how the industry works.

With the backwards compatability, PS2 owners today will be buying PS3's in a few years time. There is little to argue that fact.

"I like how the Microsoft paid shill s here make out that it is."

- From the frauds who brought you 'Hydra', fake fan websites and all the rest of their long long track record of BS that really is f**king rich indeed.

I just hope the public treat them to the obvious and clear condescending derision and contempt they obviously hold us in.

.....and btw it is true they are are not selling in Europe.

Just like everywhere else there was a short fanboy rush slightly boosted by the a/v fans after the cheapest & best spec'd BD player then tumbleweed time.

UK sales alone fell off of a cliff and have remainded there.

(love the sarcasm at the end of this report)

Research firm Chart Track shows that PS3 sales dropped the three weeks in a row after the game console went on sale in the UK. The press in that country has even suggested that Sony needs to cut price to pick up customers.

Over at Sony, the CEO says that the Playstation 3 launch in Europe is a clear success. The record-breaking success of the PlayStation 3 in Europe has rescued the games console from “the perception wars” that hit sales in Japan, says Sir Howard Stringer, he told the FT.

Maybe sales in Switzerland were good enough to make up for the short-fall in the UK.

http://www.247wallst.com...04/is_sony_playsta.html

WDF are you talking about Benjamin. The PS2 was about $300 whenever it first came out. I know because I bought one.

I don't know what your definition of rising is, but for me that means to go up. Not stop falling.

"As for the price, of course it will drop that low eventually. The PS3 is no more expensive that the PS2 was when it launched in 2000, it's now $80.."

Uh...the PS3 is exactly 100% more expensive then the PS2 when it launched...I know sony fanboys like to spout off some inaccurate information to try to improve the perception of their beloved company...but outright obvious lying, c'mon now this is a new low!

"With the backwards compatability, PS2 owners today will be buying PS3's in a few years time. There is little to argue that fact. "

LOL...yea, in 5 years time I'm going to want to get a PS3 because it can play my 10 year old PS2 games (afterall, that's the reason I bought a PS2 two years ago right? Because it can play my 7 year old PS1 games! yea sure that's the reason)...lol that is a great argument right there. By then what will the PS4 look like? 500 cell3 processors with 200 graphixcell gpu's in a box the size of my 56" tv? I can see it now...hey guess what guys! Sony developed the most powerfull gaming console ever made! Granted, nobody will ever be able to make anything for it unless they spend $10 billion/game, but it is the most powerfull system on the planet! And it will play you'r 15 year old PS2 games and some of those PS3 games! Get it now, only $5000 for the economy version with half the procs disabled!

PS2 is $80, Wii is $250

Totaly different markets. Even a fool can see this...

However it does mean that people will probably buy the PS3 if the price was in the sub $100 range...

"The PS3 is no more expensive that the PS2 was when it launched in 2000, it's now $80."

What are you smoking? No console in the history of video gaming has cost $599 before, with the exception of maybe the 3DO, which flopped almost immediately. It took 7 years for the PS2 to drop to $80. The PS3 has almost no chance of surviving 7 years, no matter how you look at it.

"With the backwards compatability, PS2 owners today will be buying PS3's in a few years time. There is little to argue that fact."

What backwards compatibility? Sony removed hardware emulation and replaced it with a crappy software emulator. No one in their right mind will buy a PS3 in hopes of playing old PS2 games on it.

Oh and that link you gave doesn't mean anything. Forecasting profits is just a guessing game. Kind of like when Sony "forecast" 6 million PS3 shipped by the end of March. They barely shipped half that. Let me quote a few things from your article, with the important phrases highlighted.

"Sony Corp. will likely see its operating profit rise more than fivefold"

"Sony's group sales are expected to rise 6 percent"

"Sony should enjoy increased demand for its liquid crystal display"

"But the biggest boost should come from its game division, which is expected to book an operating loss of 200 billion yen in the past business year"

"Sony will boost PS3 shipments in 2007/08 by about 67 percent to 10 million units, and should also benefit from better semiconductor production yields"

"The newspaper said Sony should be able to post a group operating profit"

That's a whole lot of "should" and "expected", isn't it? I love how they say Sony will ship 10 million PS3s by 2008. They could ship 100 million of them, it won't matter. People simply will not buy a $599 console. Get that through your thick skulls already.

PS4? At the rate that there going now I don't think we'll ever see one.

You just contridicted yourself. You just said people buy the PS2 because it's cheaper, then go on to say people prefer the PS2 over the Wii. Ummmm, isn't the PS2 cheaper than the Wii too? And arn't they also totally different markets?

It's kind of funny, you called yourself a fool. There's the typical Sony fangirl logic.

You might of heard of inflation. There has been some of it since the PS1 in 95 and the PS2 in 2000.

Go back and redo your sums.

OK, so the PS2 is less than the PS3 even after factoring inflation, but not that much. ($399). PS3 is $499.

WII has PS2 graphics. So yes, they are in the same market.

Why buy a $250 Wii, when you can get a PS2 with a much better games library for $80..

But you also have to consider though too that you can get the Xbox 360 Primium for $399 or the Wii for $250.

Wrong! [Like the scene in the Superman movie.]

First the Wii has graphics that are slightly better than the Xbox 1.

Second of all graphics doesn't mean that there in the same market. Nintendo games are totally different compared to PlayStation games. You can’t get Mario, Zelda, Metroid etc on PlayStation. Plus there’s the Wii remote witch is totally different than any PS controller. The Wii and PS2 are far from being in the same market.

You just helped confirmed that you are a fool.

Ah...so I guess the xbox is not affected by inflation? It is almost half the price of the PS3 you know...

Computers in general are immune also I guess? 7 years ago a computer with 1/50th the spec of the pc I have now would have cost me 4k...I got this one for 800$...

but in the PS3's case...it's expensive because of inflation...yea that sounds reasonable. I love the excuses all these sony fanboys come up with.

ha...don't worry about it. He's probably one of those guys that says a civic is aimed at the same market as a rav4 because their 0-60's are almost equal.

You are spouting BS Benjamin. The PS2 was $299. I bought one for $299 right after they launched. Also the PS3 is $599 now that they have discontinued the 20GB model.

quiet so far so i'm going to try and start something up. you know, provocation is the mother of revolution. but how about going totaly different direction this threat?
so, i claim that:

if you are a gamer playing on PC/console you are a dork!
get outside, breathe some beautifully poluted air, say "f...king game industry! i'm not going to give you any of my money any more! shove the stupid [console of choice here] up your a...s! play your stupid games yourself" etc.

I'm only old gen Nintendo GC...no next gen...

PS3 and Xbox360 will outsell Wii. I haven't done enough research, but I don't think any of these "hot" nintendo months even surpasses the Xbox360 totals? So yeah, they sell more now, but only because they are cheaper and people are cheap.

In the end, I would say you can tell by January 2k8...Nintendo will be a solid 3rd. I don't know about the other 2, but of course they will be 1st and 2nd.

For how much more they cost over the Wii, the other 2 guys aren't doing half bad.

Hmm if Nintendo is to end up still in 3rd place after a year Sony is going to have to make up massive ground.
Just by taking March numbers, PS3 would have to double their current sales just to break even. Considering the price of the console I find that a difficult prospect.

Face it, Sony missed the boat. They didn't produce a console people really want.

On another note: I believe the high PS2 sales are due to people not being able to afford the costly PS3 but having to replace an old unit anyway.

Actually, if Nintendo is going to get passed by Sony now, Sony would have to outsell it almost 4:1 in all remaining months. (Wii sales would continue, so to close and surpass in 7 months would take a large % difference)

PS3 sales may have stabilized, but that doesn't make this good news. The PS3 is a year behind the Xbox360, yet the latter is STILL outselling the PS3. Same with the Wii, even though sales dropped 23 percent, it still outsold the PS3 almost 2:1 in March.

Now I'm just waiting for someone like DaveBG or Steve Austin to come by with their Sony math, and explain to me how the PS3 is going to catch up to the Xbox360, even though the 360 is outselling the PS3 each month. I'm sure they can link some fake Europe, Asia, Australia, etc. sales numbers that show stellar sales for the PS3. :)

*takes seat*

I LOVE THIS MOVIE!

/not really

Everyone please be seated, the Sony shills will be arriving soon to gloat about their overwhelming victory. Nintendo is crushed and Microsoft is going out of business.

*** puts popcorn in microwave ***

I for one welcome our new Sony shill over-...

...well maybe not. It's really starting to get old hearing Sony "brag" over what amounts to losing the next gen race thus far to Nintendo and Microsoft.

Sony can brag about sales numbers, because they're not actually comparing themselves to Microsoft or Nintendo. Comparing the PS3 to no one means its sales are fantastic. Sony is in a whole other league of their own. Remember, next generation gaming begins when _they_ say it begins.

I thought they were touting High Def Gaming beginning when they said?

Too bad they didn't include a cable for it.

Or any decent games lol.

That sure is true. lol

Are you still crying over a $10 cable? That only a percentage of owners need or would use?

You really a a media wh***. Do you wander round saying everything the online mediaindustry wants you to say?

Your average consumer probably doesn't know that they can get an HDMI cable for $10 online. They are about $100 to buy them in an electronic store. So unless you know to go online and buy it that is another $100.

Or $10 in store, my local BestBuy has selections of HDMI cables from $15 to $75

Anyone talking about no HDMI cable in the box, has nothing better to whinge about basically...

How exactly do you whinge?

Anyway I wasn't the one whining about it. In fact I have never brought it up once. My gripe with the PS3 is the lack of any good exclusives and a controller design that I absolutely hate.

I'm waiting for any Sony shill to come up with the math on this:

* Sony is losing several hundred on their unit.
* Microsoft is getting closer to break even on their unit, though they still lose a little, it's getting close.
* Nintendo is making a profit on its unit.

Nintendo has sold about 2.5x the number of units as PS3. XBOX360 has sold about 3.5x.

So, Nintendo is rolling in profits. Microsoft has a large installed base and valuable licensing fees. And Sony is making it's money.. where?

I'm sorry, but if you're a developer I don't care how "great" the PS3 is hardware wise, you develop games where the sales are. Why do you think EA has shifted 12 titles to Wii? Or Rockstar and others are busy annoucing XBOX exclusives? Games tend to sell more on consoles people have.

I loved my Sega Gamegear. Way better then the Gameboy. But hardware be damned, it didn't sell enough, so not enough titles.. and it died. If the PS3 doesn't catch fire and sell in droves soon with some killer titles behind it, it will be the Betamax of this console generation.

Oh, so HDMI doesn't matter now? That was one of the features that all the Sony fanboys cried to why you need to spend $200 more for a PS3. So that makes it a $610 (or more, I think HDMI cables cost more than that) if you even want to use the HDMI feature.

By the way, you should re-read your posts. There pretty hard to read with all the spelling errors you have.