RSSPalm Pre sync vs. Apple iTunes, round 2
By Tim Conneally | Published September 10, 2009, 11:27 AM
Yesterday was a big day for both Palm and Apple, with Palm debuting its newest WebOS handset called the Pixi, and Apple refreshing its iPod line, iTunes, and iPhone OS.
All the while, though, the cat and mouse game between the two companies over connectivity was continuing. The Palm Pre was launched with the "unofficial" ability to sync with iTunes; and as most people expected, it was blocked by Apple in an incremental iTunes update. Just nine days later, Palm issued the WebOS 1.1 update which, among other things, brought the iTunes media sync functionality back.
With the iTunes 9 update yesterday, Apple's popular media management program again once broke the loose compatibility with the Palm Pre.
However, Palm was sitting at the ready with another WebOS update. The 1.2 update was actually expected to be released just one day before Apple updated iTunes, but both Palm and Sprint announced that the update has been put on hold until the end of the month.
While it is not a confirmed fact that Palm delayed the update because of the iTunes media sync breakage, the timing is conspicuous and Pre users forums are optimistically expecting the update to fix the issue.
This is an easy fix for people who HATE itunes for this mess and love there Palm Pre.
Doubletwist....
It looks and works with Ipods, palm pre's, Iphones and MANY other media players without all the Apple BS, it will also do photos and videos as well!!
ENJOY!!!
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|While I absolutely do not think Apple should be trying to block the Palm Pre...I don't really see why anyone would want to use Itunes if they don't haft to. This software is a bloated pile of crap.
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|Palm has the right to make the Palm Pre work with iTunes.
Apple has the right to block the Palm Pre from working with iTunes.
Ultimately, they will both continue until one side thinks it's no longer a battle worth fighting.
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|Two children fighting....wait till tomorrow when Palm will release a fix and everything will be fine...
But I don't know why Palm is fixated on that s***ty iTunes....just enable the MTP mode in Palm and users can just connect their phones to PCs and upload songs...stupid palm....
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|iTunes belongs to apple and they have the right to keep these low end clone phones from using iTunes products.
Yes iTunes is crap but it is the ONLY successful music/video store on the market. everyone else has missed the boat so far.
What I don't get is how apple is able to push around the content owners so much. maybe it's because steve jobs ownes alot of Disney..
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|Microsoft has the right to control what you play in WMP. After all they made it...Doesn't mean they should though.
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|Remember how many times during 2002-2004 Yahoo! tried to block Trillian from accessing Yahoo! Messenger? In the long run, Trillian prevailed. In the long run, Palm will Pre-vail.
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|I agree. I think I remember MS doing the same thing to Trillian, it shows greed to block access to programs like that or in this case hardware....
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|No, it shows Apple does not want 3rd rate clone manufacturers having iTunes think something which is not an iPod is an iPod. There are publicly documented ways to integrate with iTunes, why Palm chooses to not use that is purely a marketing decision. Betanews bites on it...free publicity.
In the end Palm will fail as to make it work, they will have to run afoul of the law.
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|"In the end Palm will fail as to make it work, they will have to run afoul of the law."
What law would that be, fatty?
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|"low end clone" - "3rd rate clone"
Palm have been making smart phones and PDA's/U's much longer then Apple, since when did doing the majority of the ground work that made products such as the "Touch" and "iPhone" even possible make them the 3rd rate clone? If anything it's the apple mobile products that have "cloned" from palm and others such as the HP I-Paq and Creative MP3 lines.
That aside, the only thing going "Afoul" is the consumers right to utilise their purchased products how they see fit. As you don't pay a subscription to itunes for use (heck you don't even need itunes at all even with an iPhone or Touch or any iPod product after startup of course), there can be no right reservation on where or what can use the service, right reservation is only on the media available via iTunes and on any patented technologies, which in this case are not being infringed upon by Palm.
So unfortunately for Apple fortunate for Palm there is nothing to run "Afoul" of. Palm are just minding it's consumers basic rights, if Palm insists/chooses on the continued update for update battle eventually it will win, the real question should be can it be bothered or even better should it?
On one hand it will be a long and arduous conflict on the other they have made a product that was able to do something (in this case sync with iTunes) and consumers have made the informed purchase with this in mind, Palm generally looks after it's consumers so I dare say they'll keep up the fight.
Apple on the other hand, not so good at the "looking after consumers" stuff.
Don't get me wrong my wife loves her iPhone (best gift I think I've ever gotten her & the only phone she has owned that has not been destroyed or washed) and my Touch is the best thing ever to watch Youtube on when bored, and that's the point thats what the Apple "i" products are useful for (music, videos, pics and a little net) and all the general consumer uses them for. Where as a Palm PDA is a complete mobile office so why not have some music playing while your out on a job?
The complication arises when a consumer has an iPod and becomes caught up in the iTune world, the next thing they know they "perceive" to not have any other way to access music/video then through iTunes yet on a daily basis (maybe for work) they use products such as the Palm, and would just like to take the music they spent hard earned money (hopefully) on with them on a non apple device which is actually their right to do under consumer protection guidelines.
Personally I think it's a pretty upstandish thing for palm to do.
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|The '3rd rate clone' are the iPhone users who have been fooled by apple into thinking they have a unique product. Smartphones, PDAs, portable game consoles, and mp3 players have been around much longer than apple had the twinkle in their eye to manufacture one. Apple may have pushed progress, if you can call it that, a little faster, but in the end, just like with the old Apple and Apple II computers, apple will fade into history once again. Their closed, 100% proprietary, attitude will be unable to compete with companies that are open to sharing. Even Microsoft is jumping on the open source bandwagon.
If Apple decides to allow 'clones' of their devices, this may be a different story, until then, they can keep their stores, their heavy unibody laptops, and their nutty loyalists. The rest of us will stick to tastier more nutritious fruits.
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