RSSPanasonic Ships $600 Blu-ray Player
By the Betanews Staff | Published May 15, 2007, 2:47 PM
Although HD DVD may still have the lead when it comes to price, Blu-ray continues to add more manufacturers, with Panasonic today releasing its DMP- BD10A Blu-ray player, priced at $600. The player offers 7.1 channel sound with support for Dobly True HD and dts-HD audio.
The DMP- BD10A features full 1080p resolution and upconverts older DVDs to the high-definition signal. Although Panasonic's player is double the price of Toshiba's entry-level HD DVD offering, the company is bundling five Blu-ray movies for free. Consumers will receive copies of "Pirates of the Caribbean, Curse of the Black Pearl" and "Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest" from Disney, "Transporter" and "Fantastic 4" from Fox and "Crash" from Lionsgate.
does anyone know the release date for this player??
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|Ahh here we go. Jagoff Dave, who doesn't even live in the US chimes in only when something rocks his little pretend Blu-Ray world.
Dave is up to 640+ posts over at blu-ray.com and still doesnt own a BD player or a single movie. The time you spend digging up articles about BD and anti HD-DVD is staggering. Don't you have anything better to do?
You are the joke of Betanews yet you still come here and post your one sided crap ONLY when a BD or HD-DVD story pops up. The fact is you have never seen HD-DVD in person and are some brainwashed little cheerleader lemming with absolutely no life.
Last time I made the mistake of posting this on the day that they put up a bunch of new stories so it got pushed to the next 15 stories
http://img514.imageshack...sonycheerleadersox2.png
From the looks of the picture, I think Steve is lusting over Dave and wants to have hairy man sex.
You are pretty skinny and feminine looking, I expected a big fat slack jawed loser with sores on his a** from all the time you spend worrying about BD.
Hokus, I'm with you.
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|What a retard...
You pulling your hair off again? Because hd-dud is loosing and is going to die (you with it) ???
Loser.
You are talking about gays?
"Hokus, I'm with you."
I am sure he enjoys you company now... gay moron.
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|Did you let an 8 year old type your post for you Dave?
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|He does post like a second grader, obviously not the product of a classical education.
The question marks and exclamation points come flying when he's pissed.
Once again he doesnt dispute the fact that I said he doesnt own a BD player or a single movie, proving once again I am right.
Thank you Dave, you pathetic little life makes mine seem even better every time I think about it.
Not even a comment about the cheerleaders, it must be him in the picture. He's just mad because I found out that Steve and himself dress up like little girls and wave pom poms for anything Sony.
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|$600 is slightly under double the price of a Toshiba HD A2 ($310) and a Toshiba HD A20 ($360) on Amazon USA right now.
HD DVD will have more content available at the end of the year too (600 HD DVD movies).
......and as for those BD, er I mean Sony, fanboys trying to slam the even less expensive Chinese HD DVD players that are on the way I suggest you look under the covers of every one of those PS3s you own.
Chinese components galore.
Just because the design & production haven't been licenced to a Chinese company doesn't mean they are 'free' of (er what was it?) "cheap" & "crappy" Chinese components.
Something to bear in mind when your limited lifespan BD laser assembly packs in early from being used as a games machine & a video platform.
.....but they never told you about that bit, right?
LMAO.
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|Nice try, those prices you quote, are Amazon prices, the RRP is alot higher.
The $600 panasonic price is also RRP, it's safe to say that it will be available online for muc less than that...
Still anyone dumb enough to buy a HD-DUD player is dumb enough to be fooled by your trickery...
Do you really believe 600 HD-DVD movies will be out by the end of the year? Last month HD-DVD release a big fat 0 titles...
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|"Nice try, those prices you quote, are Amazon prices, the RRP is alot higher."
- Oh, I'm sorry, so the prices you can actually get the Toshibas at is irrelevant to you?
Figures.
"The $600 panasonic price is also RRP, it's safe to say that it will be available online for muc less than that..."
- .....and when it is you can say so, until then you got nothing but tedious predictable fanboy hot air.
"Still anyone dumb enough to buy a HD-DUD player is dumb enough to be fooled by your trickery..."
- Jayzuss wept, you BD/Sony jerks really are reduced to raking out the bottom of the barrel.
The prices the Toshibas can be easily had for right now is "trickery", according to you?
Pathetic.
"Do you really believe 600 HD-DVD movies will be out by the end of the year? Last month HD-DVD release a big fat 0 titles... "
- Universal has a nice big release schedule out already.
.......and as for big fat zeros perhaps you'd like to tell us all about the BD releases that were pulled so they could up the DRM?
BD announced 250 new titles were coming at CES 2007, perhaps you'd know how many didn't make it, hmmmmm?
Yeah right.
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|What a dumb post.
Blu-ray already have more movies than HD DVD, even that it launched almost a year later, and it has 7 out of 8 major Hollywood studios on its side while HD DVD have 1 exclusive... Lmao now?
Thats why it outsells HD DVD:
http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/
http://www.dvdempire.com...Features/hidef_wars.asp
and it also has more players available too, not to mention greater install base (people have Blu-ray devices times and times more than HD DUD)...
Educate yourself:
http://blu-ray.com/
http://www.foxbd.com/
http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/bluray/
http://www.playb3yond.com/
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/
http://www.learningcente...s/hpd/bluray/index.html
http://video.movies.go.com/bluray/
http://www.sicolamartin.com/bluraybroadcast/
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|You seem to be missing the point..
RRP of the Toshiba HD-A2 id $499, sure, very little ever sells for RRP online, which is WHY it's considerably lower.. (or they are having a fire sale of obsolete kit).
Either way, the online price of the Panasonic won't be $600 either, it will be significantly less (my guess $450).
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|LMAO, as predictable as night following day, here's DaveBG with his own 'special' kind of post.
BD right now has a few more movies than HD DVD (want to swap numbers DaveBG......fancy putting a little perspective on your strident little ravings, hmmm?)
The only reason BD is outselling HD DVD is purely because it is bound up in the PS3.
Without PS3 BD died ages ago.
That's the truth.
.....and even with the PS3 and it's supposed 3 million sales (with, amusingly 6 million 'shipped') total BD sales to date are approx 1.2 million.
This compares with HD DVD having approx 250,000 players of various kinds out there and it having sales of approx 998,000 or so.
To give a little perspective on the tiny size and immaturity of the toal high def market SD DVD sold over 750 million units last year.
That's how come HD DVD backers take a long-term view, not a blinkered & ignorant fanboy view.
That's how come the Universal CEO said a little while ago that the 'war' hadn't even really started.
That's how come when your beloved BD 'insider(s)' had the gullible BD fanclub going ga-ga with their BS about Universal going neutral it only turned out to be so utterly laughable and false.
They were laughing at you, you lot will believe anything.
Just like the fake twisted 'news' you'll get a BD add-on for the XBox 360 at X-Mas 2007.
LMAO.
You guys honestly think business thinks and acts like you lot do?
Like this is something close to football team support!?
Some of you lot really are detached from reality.
That's how come BD has 'won' nothing.....and how come it's movie disc sales numbers are so disappointing for those serious business heads who once imagined PS3 would drive the whole thing.
......and now we see the BD hardware manufacturers abandoning their previous 'BD exclusive' stance to produce dual format machines - yeah a real vote of confidence that was.
PMSL
But you carry on with your day-dreams Dave.
LMAO indeed.
(btw Dave do you honestly and seriously think anyone is going to bother to read those pitiable little PS fanzine games sites?
As for the BD connected & BD backers saying how great they imagine BD to be, is that meant to be news to anyone?!
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|The only 'point' being studiously avoided here Steve is that the Toshiba is available in the market right now for the prices I've given.
All you have is a projected RRP and your day-dreams of what you guess this might mean....
.....and naturally you just couldn't help yourself and had to lie about the Toshiba HD A2's rrp
(which is currently $399 not $499).
But what else does one expect from the liars that make up the BD-support in this?
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|May 1st 2007
http://www.mcall.com/tec...l=all-businesslocal-hed
"In the HD-XA2, but not the entry-level HD-A2 ($400) or the just-out HD-A20 ($500), "
If you really want to a fair comparison, the Panasonic BD player here aligns to the HD-A20, as it does 1080p (which the A2 does not), so it's actually only $100 more than the A20, plus you get 5 decent films...
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|Dumb as always...
You see xBox addon have should have made even more sales but it didnt. Even with millions more xBox consoles out there... People are buying movies because they like them.
Soon MS will make Blu-ray addon for xBox and Universal will jump ship and your stupid format you are fanboying is dead...
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|"Soon MS will make Blu-ray addon for xBox and Universal will jump ship and your stupid format you are fanboying is dead..."
Yet again more BS from you Dave. You are as usual just blowing a bunch of hot air. Fine I can do that too. Next month every studio and manufacturer is going to abandon Blu-Ray and go HD-DVD exclusive and Blu-Ray wont make it through June.
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|ONLY $600?!?!?!?!
*ROFLOLFAINT*
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|Why pay $600 for this Blue Ray player when the PS3 is offer at the same price.
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|Exactly. I guess its the 5 "free" movies which account for the high price.
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|Well not everyone wants a console as a player.
Still it's nice to have the choice, a quality standalone for $600, or a quality console/Blu-Ray player for $600.
This may be a bad thing for PS3 sales, are some people are buying PS3 as a nice price Blu-Ray player, so this does encroach on this..
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|Hmm, fakes are coming back...
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|Well, if I can get a system for $600, that thing BETTER play HighDef movies, and make me pizza, and should be able to play Halo 3 ^.^
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|If you want to have true HD sound the PS3 is not the answer. DTS master does not work on the PS3 as Sony said that it would. Sony false advertising again.
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|Full 1080p resolution *ONLY* through the HDMI output though, right?
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|I think HDMI is the only output that supports 1080p. So that wouldn't be Panasonic's fault.
I think Component video gets up to 780p and that's it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't feel like looking this up before posting.
Edit:
Lol... so apparently I was completely off. Thanks guys. Glad someone knows what's going on.
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|You can do 1080p over component, there is enough bandwidth. However, the copy protection prevents 1080p over component.
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|The XBox 360 shows that VGA can also properly support 1080p, so if your TV has it then that's another perfectly viable additional connection point.
(.....and now that Microsoft have added the distinction between PC colour specs and TV specs those washed out colours some complained about are no longer an issue)
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|Another killer blow for HD-DVD. A quality standalone with 5 free DECENT movies for $600...
HD-DVD sales in Europe are now virtually non existent.. Stores are only stocking Blu-Ray, and those that stock both formats, Blu-Ray has MUCH more content available...
Game over for HD-DUD...
XBox360 Blu-Ray addon by Xmas? HD-DUD outlooking is bleak?
http://uk.gizmodo.com/20...o_get_bluray_drive.html
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|Ignorance at it's best.
Yah what a killer blow. They released a player twice as expensive as the HD-DVD player how will they ever survive that. /sarcasm off
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|600 dollar player
yea that'll kill HD-DVD
NOT
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|Yeh, a cheap crappy chinese no name brand HD-DUD player, or a gen-1 fire clearance sale HD-DUD player that takes 3 minutes to boot up.... (really!!!)
I know which I would prefer, the latest generation Blu-Ray panasonic player, with all the features, or if i'm a gamer, a PS3...
Either way, Blu-Ray is getting players from lots of manufacturers out there..
Sony Standalones
Sony PS3
Samsung (2 generations of players)
Panasonic (2 generations of players)
Pioneer
Philips
Against what? Toshiba.... That's it.... (apart from the mythical Chinese players, that HD-DVD have been promising for nearly a year now)
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|$600 isn't expensive at all if it's actually sold here in Japan, but the thing is I don't see Blue-rays around, and people's houses aren't really THAT big enough to put huge TVs as what I had in the States.
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|News flash Steve the Blu-Ray players aren't any better. Also you can buy a 360 and HD-DVD add on for the same price as the POS3 and then have a console that actually has some decent games to play on it. Also consider the fact that the Toshiba player is better than all the Blu-Ray players and still cheaper...Also I like how you try to deny the fact that they are coming out with Chinese players. If I was a Sony supporter I would probably try to shoot that down too consider it will probably end Blu-Ray. I'll meet yah in the thread announcing the cheaper HD-DVD players. O wait...You probably wont show up. Forgot you tend to avoid positive HD-DVD articles.(unless you can think of some kind of BS to spout)
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|Been to Bic-camera lately? Big TV's are very popular... and they don't take up much room these days....if you have a wall you can fit a 50Inch Plasma/LCD no problem. The 103Inch Panasonic is there also....at $50,000 I don't think they'll sell many of those though.
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|Who want's to invest in obsolete 360 HD-DVD addons? Even the 360 is almost obsolete, with the latest games struggling to run, and needing to be cut back to cope with the hardware limitations on the 360.
No thanks....
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|In Europe, nobody is stocking HD-DUD, Blu-Ray only.
Blockbuster are Blu-Ray only, as are Game. Virgin and HMV are 90% Blu-Ray on the shelves...
http://img398.imageshack...hp?image=2vv115txu9.jpg
It's game over for HD-DUD
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|yawn
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|"HD-DVD sales in Europe are now virtually non existent."
- What a load. (as usual)
He posts a little picture & imagines he can speak for the whole of Europe.
FFS how ridiculous can these BD/Sony fanboys get?
S'funny then that HD DVD stand-alone sales outstrip BD stand-alones by a significant margin.....exc ept when you lot insist that every PS3 is a BD player.
But BD is now so wholly reliant on PS3 that it is to all intents and purposes it is a proprietary format.
In the USA this Panasonic player is doube the price of the HD DVD Toshiba HD A2 & HD A20......it'll be little different here and BD stand-alones will continue to be invisible.
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|"In Europe, nobody is stocking HD-DVD"
- He took one little picture and now thinks he can speak for all of Europe.
Pathetic.
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|Shh...Just let him live his fantasy world Hocus lol.
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|"Looks up" Oh look a lot of Sony BS with nothing to back it up. Typical.
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|Sorry, but that's typical of everywhere...
Seems you are still living in your Toshiba created dreamworld.. Even Microsoft are jumping from the sinking HD-DUD ship....
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|I know, what an ar*ehole.
What kind of deluded moron would seriously try to put about the tale that there will be a BD add-on by X-mas?
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|Like I mentioned before retail stores charge to much for both HD formats anyway so who cares about that. I buy online and usually save at least 5 bucks a movie.
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|I bet they are all made in China too!
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|At least the 360 has been having a steady flow of new games. What has the POS3 had new lately? Hum nothing. Well nothing that can't also be bought for the 360.
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|"Yeh, a cheap crappy chinese no name brand HD-DUD player, or a gen-1 fire clearance sale HD-DUD player that takes 3 minutes to boot up.... (really!!!)"
- LMAO.
Is this the best that you have?
BS, lies and distortion?
"I know which I would prefer, the latest generation Blu-Ray panasonic player, with all the features, or if i'm a gamer, a PS3..."
- Open you PS3 or BD stand-alone and check out the Chinese components.
Besides some old stock HD a1's every HD DVD player available now is either gen 2 or 3.
BTW PS3 sales continue to bomb - http://avzombie.com/blog...3-sales-slide-continues/
"Either way, Blu-Ray is getting players from lots of manufacturers out there..
Sony Standalones
Sony PS3
Samsung (2 generations of players)
Panasonic (2 generations of players)
Pioneer
Philips
Against what? Toshiba.... That's it...."
- BS and lies. Typical BD propaganda.
HD DVD hardware manufacturers are now -
Toshiba
Samsung (abandoned BD exclusive manufacture)
LG (abandoned BD exclusive manufacture)
Lite-on
Meridian
Onkyo
Kenwood
Alco
Shinco
Loewe
.....and if you take account of Samsung supplying the Philips BD player that's actually more HD DVD manufacturing support.
"apart from the mythical Chinese players, that HD-DVD have been promising for nearly a year now)"
- Jayzuss wept, how ludicrous is this?
There's nothing "mythical" about them, they are coming in Q3 of this year as has been said all along.
Licences were signed in 2005 and agreements made at CES 2007.
Some "myth".
That's the way serious business is done, not with ludicrous rumours that the Walmart deal might be for a BD player when no agreements or licences have been signed off.
You know Steve for someone who loves to leap in at any and every opportunity to slam HD DVD and (laughably) try to promote BD you really don;t know your subject very well at all.
Go back to your little games machine.
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|It's ok Steve. It's not your fault you haft to create BS to make an argument.
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