Patent office rejects TiVo's claims against EchoStar's software workaround

By Tim Conneally | Published August 4, 2009, 6:37 PM

The almost four-year long battle between TiVo and former sister companies Dish Network and EchoStar over DVR timeshifting technology rages on. The US Patent and Trademark Office has given a preliminary rejection to TiVo's software claims that could be used to find EchoStar in contempt of court and thus responsible for a billion dollar payout.

In the short term, EchoStar may be on course to avoid the contempt of court suit that would earn it huge legal penalties for allegedly disregarding the court's order to change its DVRs so they no longer infringed upon TiVo's patents.

"We are pleased that the Patent and Trademark Office (PTO) issued an initial office action rejecting Tivo's software claims as invalid in light of two prior patents," reads a statement from Dish Network and EchoStar today.  "These software claims are the same claims that EchoStar was found to have infringed in the contempt ruling now pending on appeal. We believe that the PTO's conclusions are highly relevant to the issues on appeal as well as the pending sanctions proceedings in the district court."

TiVo, however, believes the ruling is just business as usual.

In a statement today, TiVo said, "This is an initial step in the lengthy process known as 'reexamination,' and it is not unusual for the PTO to provide a preliminary finding of invalidity and to then later find that the claims are valid after hearing an explanation from the patent owner. Indeed, this is precisely what happened with the first reexamination of the Barton Patent that EchoStar filed in 2005. Among other things, the next step in the reexamination process provides TiVo, for the first time, the opportunity to discuss and distinguish the references presented by EchoStar, and to present new claims."

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I am missing something I guess. The cable companies here all offer DVRs. I'm with Dish Network now and their DVR seems no different from any other DVR I have seen or used. I've never seen or known anyone who has a TIVo. If the cable companies are using some kind of different technology than Dish than I understand, but from a users standpoint it seems no different. TIVo can't compete in the DVR market when every (almost) TV provider is offering DVRs. Why would someone pay more for another DVR(TIVo) and add another monthly bill? (I think TIVo charges, but again no reason for it around here so have never looked into it.)

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Has everything to do on how you write your software.

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I've had a TiVo since 2004. Although to be honest I haven't personally used it since December 2007 when I got an HD DVR from my cable company to go with my new HDTV. I let a friend of mine use it until a couple weeks ago when he also upgraded to an HD DVR from his cable company. Now I am letting my folks use it.

TiVo competes by making a better product. While I've gotten used to the cable DVR I have, it's not as easy to use or as powerful (software wise) as the TiVo. But you're right in saying that TiVo is in trouble. Having the best product only goes so far, and TiVo requires a large up front payment that you don't have to worry about from the cable company.

I'd love to have an HD TiVo, but the $500 for one with lifetime service is just too steep. Especially when I'd still have to rent a cable card from the cable company.

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Is this story cut off at the end?

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Fixed, thank you.

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