Pioneer Delays Blu-ray Player

By the Betanews Staff | Published June 6, 2006, 11:09 AM

Confirming recent rumors, Pioneer disclosed Tuesday that it was delaying its BDP-HD1 Blu-ray disc player due to production issues. Originally scheduled for launch in June, the player is now not expected until sometime in the autumn. With the latest delay, it appears that only one set-top Blu-ray player made by Samsung will be available by the summer.

Pioneer additionally announced that it would end production of regular DVD players and only support the Blu-ray format. The move may be a dangerous gamble at this point, as neither Blu-ray nor HD DVD seems to be gaining much traction among consumers due to high costs and a fragmented market.

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Why does everyone start shouting Sony whenever Blu-Ray is mentioned? Sony DID NOT create the Blu-Ray format. Sony DOES NOT own the Blu-Ray format. They are just one of many companies that support Blu-Ray, nothing more.

Sorry for shouting but that bugs me to death. I am certainly no fan of Sony but the bashing is getting ridiculous.

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A 50 GB disc as a movie STANDARD to replace the normal DVD? I don't guess so, at least not yet. It sure is a dangerous gamble since the dual layer DVDs of today support HD video perfetly well. So I think the 5x boost to the capacity is NOT NEEDED by video production companies yet. What are they supposed to fit in there? Sounds like a good data storage idea. But not a video standard for at least a few years to come

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"It sure is a dangerous gamble since the dual layer DVDs of today support HD video perfetly well."

A movie in HD format on a dual layer DVD? I don't think so, if I remember correctly they require at least 25GB for two hours of video.

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A 50 GB disc as a movie STANDARD to replace the normal DVD? I don't guess so, at least not yet. It sure is a dangerous gamble since the dual layer DVDs of today support HD video perfetly well. So I think the 5x boost to the capacity is NOT NEEDED by video production companies yet. What are they supposed to fit in there? Sounds like a good data storage idea. But not a video standard for at least a few years to come

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Since Sony has such a great record when it comes to new formats. I'm sure blu-ray will be a huge success. lol ;-)

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What do you mean? UMD has been a HUGE success, they are, er, oh wait. Nevermind. :D

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Like floppy disks, Audio Cassette, CD?

Yep Sony were responsible for all those (CD in conjunction with Phillips).

http://www.sony.net/Fun/SH/1-23/h3.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD#History

But people like forgetting these, and bring up UMD and betamax (which was very popular as Hi-8).

Indeed, Blu-Ray is pretty much gaurenteed success, as it's got the majority of big movie and media companies behind it, and it's also got a cheap launch vehicle, the PS3.

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Sony did not create the audio cassette, Philips did. Sony had nothing to do with creating them. As for CDs Philips created them also; Sony initally had a competing type of audio laser disc but decided to join up with Philips (AFTER the CD was already developed). Sony did develop the 1.44 MB micro-floppy disc (not floppy discs in general) and the primary reason it survived is because it was adopted by Apple computer. PCs were still using 5.25" floppy discs at the time, and for quite a while afterward. Sony has had far more products fail in the market place than succeeded.

There is no guarantee at all that either format will win; As for the PS3 being a "cheap" launch vehicle, lol.

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I am not in a rush to purchase this format or the HD-DVD.. I'll wait another year or so until things settle down.. as for Sony....

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Hmm, $600.00 for a game console that probably won't do that well, if it even sees daylight this year is a big gamble indeed.

I'm waiting for the LG dual player myself, that way I won't be part of this format war :)

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How much will this dual player cost though? Probably a lot more than a good single format player. Having two completely different pickup assemblies seems like it would be less reliable too. I'm not buying any dual player knowing one if not both of the of the formats will fail, probably Blu-Ray. I'll just keep my perfectly good DVD player and movie collection and wait for the fallout to settle from this format war.

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As far as I know, the Blu-Ray players will be able to play DVDs too.

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Yes, they can both play DVDs.

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Since this is mainly vaporware, I think we'll all stand on the sidelines, and just wait for these two formats to bash each other to bits and see who wins.

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Pionee good cant compete with the cheaper rivals that areer pulling out of the DVD market has more to do with being priced out more than anything else. There players whil easily unlocked and can play divx and all the formats.

Making only blu-ray is a bold move, and think this decision could be one to regret.

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I really wish I could understand that...

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I have a feeling Pioneer is going to really regret abandoning standard DVD. Blu-ray has had more accidents and hit more road bumps than the filming of the exorcist. I think it is going to make Betamax look successful.

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HD-DVD is actually fairing worse.. It's got no support from any big names, and no platform to launch to the mass market.

I think Pioneer's cancellation is based on the fact nobody will want a $1000 player, when the PS3 does it for half that. They will launch later with a cheaper, better, more mature product..

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"It's got no support from any big names, and no platform to launch to the mass market."

No big names--Microsoft and Toshiba are no-names...and Windows Vista, while not a "platform", will offer built-in burning capability for HD-DVD. Blu-Ray? Don't know yet...

But then again, Microsoft is just a fad, so who cares?

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To a Sony fanboy? You bet.

With the PC looking more and more like where this battle will take place, MS supporting one or the other and not both could easily spell doom for the other.

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Yes, Microsoft and Toshiba are big names, but in this context, do they matter? Nope, doe either of these release media or own movie studios?

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