I wish we could put all of the user opinions found here onto the front page of a news paper. I just wish the public, those cattle out there, were more educated at how the MPAA and the RIAA are constantly striving to inconvienience the average consumer.

Word.

this DRM is easily circumvented.

its a cheap windows autoplay - which loads a crappy driver into your system to actually screw with the routine of normal cd-audio playing. Guess what, to me that's a virus and i will remove it from any system i service (it can be removed with a little knowledge). Have a nice day RIAA - you screwballs.

update: Hell i just made a simple batch file that kills this nasty from a xp machine. What a joke.

As long as the music will be able to play over my PC speakers, I'll be able to rip them.

Previously, the RIAA had maintained that illicit downloading was the biggest problem affecting sales of legitimate music. However, the group has apparently had a change of heart after a recent NPD Group study showed that people remember listening to copyrighted music.

Mitch Bainwol, CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America told the Associated Press:

"It's a violation of copyright to remember a song you've heard. We're supporting legislation which shall fine people $5,000 for every song in their head. If they whistle or hum the song, jail sentences are warranted."

The Computer Rodent

the hell with the RIAA..long live to the freenet

CDs are a bit of a throwback anyway. Why do artists still have to release the 'standard' 9-14 songs in a group? This is an old practice dictated by the limitations of vinyl production.
But it's obvious that record companies would not want to abandon this outdated model since, as so many people here point out, 90% of any album' is frequently garbage, and the RIAA don't fancy you 'cherry-picking' only the good tracks. Like the MPAA, they want you to buy a pig in a poke. Thank God for file-sharing - in my case it costs those who produce good movies nothing, since I buy a real copy of any movie that I see and like, but am rescued from buying crap like 'Van Helsing' by a)being able to see it first without paying and b)reading reviews on rottentomatoes.com, amazon, etc. I bet the MPAA and RIAA would also like to outlaw this kind of peer reviewing, since it's stopped me making many a purchase.

The RIAA can not win. Why? Because they don't even realize what it is that they are fighting. They think it's about people wanting to get music for free. These are the same people who would never even consider the idea of shoplift or stealing something from their neighbors or even a stranger. And why is that? Because when you boil it all down to it's very essence it's about peoples perceptions of justice or fairness.

People preceive the RIAA as tyrants that steal the hard work of the artist and then price gouge the fans/consumers. The RIAA/Big Music Labels make all the money, horde all the music, and screw both sides.

The RIAA can not win because average Joe does not see what he does as stealing and he never will.

What is the difference betwteen purchasing an ITunes, Napster, Musicmatch, etc, and "burning" it to your hard drive or "burning" it to a CD?

Do they waqnt to tax my HDD by the mb to?

"Do they want to tax my HDD by the mb to? "

This is exatctly the thing, that Latvian government and AKKA/LAA (RIAA equivalent in Latvia) have done for about year - "Legality" tax for all media, calculated by some obscure formula

I wonder is the RIAA has factored in teh laywer costs as part of the "loss" margin. I mean all those lawyers don't come cheap. So I'm willing to bet if the RIAA stops doing all this BS, their profit margin will come up.

Yawnnnnnnnn. (scratches his nuts) and then says "Eat me RIAA".

what is funny to me about this is the fact that when cd's first came out. the main reason was. it was a cheaper way to distrubut music. i rember some of the points was like a tape had a few different meterials and was a lot harder to manufacture and produce (lot more track editing time.)so the music record co's actauly didnt make as much per album. now with that said did the price go down when cd's started coming out? no they jumped up to provide the big man more pocket change. now they are use to that very very large margen. and have turned into a bunch of gready bastages.

see related topic:
http://www.xiph.org/about/

All I have to say is bring it on big man. See how much I care.

Didnt the RIAA do this before when CD burning became availible to the public. i may be wrong but they tried doing this once and failed so whats the point in doing it again.

They tried to tax blank cassettes and video tapes about 20 years ago! The difference is that CDs are not used "exclusively" for recording music and HOLLYWOOD movies...

I burn a copy of every CD I buy so that the copy gets ruined in the car instead of the original. This is fair use and it's legal. And I don't care how hard they try to copy protect CDs, there's always a way around it. I mean, a $5 Radio Shack patch cord gets around even the strongest copy protection! :-)

Lets not even mention that simple computer programs can record audio files to your hard drive, be it from internet radio or outside sources. Recording this sooo easy. IDIOTS...

Ya, I burn every CD before I take it in the car. Extreme heat and cold wreck havoc amoung the CDs. Why should I have to purchase something twice because of copy protection. Just like CSS, this will be circumvented.

Wow...that is brilliant. This is going to be a reciprocating circle. Don't the recording labels have to purchase blank CD's to create new CD's? So if CD burning is prohibited, then the RIAA/record labels can't burn CD's to sell legitimately. Just an odd point.

Another one: If they allow CD burning, but then charge a levy (such as in Canada), then won't that force the price of CD's to go up since the record labels will have to pay more for CD's? Wait, you say that they purchase them from special manufacturers that also produce commercially, so their cost won't go up? Wrong. If CD burning becomes illegal or blank CD's aren't purchased as much due to cost, then they'll want to make up revenue somewhere. So now they charge the RIAA $0.10 more per CD to make up for lost revenues. So now our CD's cost $20 (have to account for inflation/demand/etc...). Oh wait...now people stop buying CD's because we can't afford to purchase $20 CD's that only have 2 good songs on them...wow. And then they outlaw music stations/broadcasting since people have now resorted to the old days of copying music from radio stations. Oh wait...now artists are back out on the street because the record labels can't make money because nobody wants to support whiny-@$$ Richie Rich's that could care less about you having to shell out $$$ just for a CD because they aren't making their "bottom line".

Ok, that went far...

The recording labels do not use the same type of CDs. They do not burn those CDs. They use a different process: They press CDs. Stamped CDs do not have the same structure than the burning ones

Sorry, I should have refined my point:
They still have to purchase blank CD's for stamping. Many of the BIG CD production companies (not the record labels) also produce blank CD's for consumers. If they drive the consumer out of the picture, then they will charge more to producers to recoup the loss of consumer-driven sales. This in turn will be passed to the consumers so the producers can recoup their additional costs for stamping the more expensive CD's. That's all I really meant to get across.

Jerry Garcia died some ten years ago; but the GRATEFUL DEAD boys know how to deal with this problem. Bootleg concert tapes have existed for decades. Some sound like crap.

Stoned rock stars realized that they could attract a bigger clientele, by offering better quality source materials at reasonable prices. The average show fits on 3 CDs which retail for around 20 bucks. The RIAA would charge more for this multi-disc release.

They now have a download service and we are seeing stuff that has never circulated before even in poor quality sources.

These guys are multi-millionares precisely because they didn't and still don't harass the little people.

Other artists have begun doing the same thing. Less money is wasted on buying too many blank CDs; which nobody is gonna buy at any price. Much of this work is done by independent companies and not the RIAA's big four.

Maybe the RIAA idiots might wake up; if somebody put a dose of LSD in their office coffee machines. "Hey man, I gotta really far out idea."

They used to stamp press vinyl too. That's how got skips and warped albums. I prefer the slow burned made to order process, used by "Munch-Mix" and others; who don't waste resourcse.

We might not be paying so much for gasoline; if these RIAA morons weren't wasting tons of crude oil producing too much product which doesn't sell...

(Dictionary)

Harassment: (v) What the RIAA does.

Lets see: I have a copy of a cd in 2 cars in the cd changers, a copy in the cd changer in the living room, a copy in the cd changer in the bedroom. Oh, I also have a copy in my office in case the others get ruined. Uh oh, that's 5 copies of the same product, but they are only made for the convenience of not having to hunt where the cd is down. Also, if you have children, you know how fast a cd gets ruined... They are forcing everyday people, that have everyday needs, to be uncompliant. I would stop listening to music if I had to buy that many copies. Like everyone else says, most of the songs are trash, and you have to pay such a high price to get one or two songs that are good.. I'm surprised noone has brought up the new technology that is being put on "blank" cds to stop more than 3 copies of the same music being burned on your computer. If it is not in your area yet it is on it's way. Big Brother.. They are acting like they are hurting so much just because of the copying, when in fact all companies have experienced hardships since 911. They should put out quality products at a REASONABLE price and then people will come...

while this may sound like a good idea to the music industry who only cares about money. people will find other ways to get the music they want for free. For example recording off the radio or online casts. Then from their they can be burned on to cd or transfered to IPOD's or any digital media player. This may be a problem that can be solved by simply lowering the price of music cd's on the shelf. If it costs more or the same to burn a cd as to buy it then more people would consider buying them. Also the NO. 1 reason many people burn cd's is to get only the songs they want on a disc and not all the other songs they may never listen to. It is not worth it to many consumors to pay $17 or $20 for a cd the has 1 song they want. It is much mor cost effective to buy blank cd's and burn a mix of what they want and at a much lower cost. RIAA fails to look at it form the costomers point of view. If they were a little less conserned about getting all the money they can and more conserned about the customer then we all would be better off.

The thing that is really hurting music CD sales is the RIAA's own Gestapo-like tactics. They find their largest market (teenagers), and sue them, their parents, the makers of technologies they enjoy using, their grandparents, and even dead folk.

It makes you wonder what this whole "liberty" thing is all about, when even the boy scouts were sued for licensing fees for their camp songs.

A$$HOLE$

Can we sue the RIAA for anything?

*Invasion of privacy
*Child endangerment
*Wiretapping
*General stupidity
*Monopolistic practices
*Organized crime
*First amendment violations

Anything will do... I'd like to remind all that the RIAA did LOSE a court battle once, and not too long ago. What was it for?

Price fixing.

And SONY just got busted again for a "payola" scandal in New York state. They didn't learn much from the Alan Freed case of the 50's; if they're stupid enough to try again and get caught a second time...

If the artists are really so mad, they should just stop producing music. Oh wait, that makes them money, just not enough...

Maybe they should do like the NHL and put a salary cap on music artists. Then they won't feel so bad when sales are down.

That wasn't as funny as I thought it would be...

I read all of these comments and if the RIAA was one guy in a room full of these people, someone would clobber him.

In a related story, the RIAA has discovered that PEOPLE are responsible for piracy. Look for them to be outlawing people soon, too....

I reside in Canada, where all "blank" CDs, DVDs and tapes have a "surcharge" levy which is supposed to go to the artists.

RIAA is now targetting the CD burning. What is next? We would need to buy a "license" for each CD or tape we want to listen to?? Can't they (RIAA) finally figure out that the way people want their music is changing!

It used to be illegal, to record music from the BBC in England. Some people did it any way. Now corrupt record companies pay top pounds, for pirated tapes of the BEATLES, STONES and other bands from that era.

Remember that criminals were probably responsible for the JIMI HENDRIX BBC Sessions that came out a few years ago...

Its just paranoia at its best.. The RIAA have a point about ripping off artists, this is true and I myself use Napster to download legal tracks, but god damit, they want control of everything .. bordering insanity

I have always - up to now - been, and been on the side of a very traditional-human-moral approach as to piracy and hacking. Up to now.
RIAA and its hysterical philosophy, methods and practise is making me wonder if I haven't been wrong, myself, in a too systematic way of dealing with reality. If choosing honesty means letting the artist be paid, fine; if choosing honesty means becoming slave of an industry where buying an album means buying the *right* to hear it, then I'm seriously wondering on the opportunity of changing my attitude.
"If you can't beat them, join them" is maybe RIAA's big thought. They shouldn't forget that scuttling is an alternative, and that pushing too far their aspirations will proove, if needed, that their aim is money - theirs - rather than honesty.
I wonder if RIAA may not be defined by that very particular arrogance which is one of the main components of fondamental stupidity.

Well here is what they are doing to local businesses.

They send their lawyers into mom and pops CD shop and confiscate any CDs burned onto blank media...like say...my new DEMO CD...or anything that is on a blank CD. They say its pirate and they take it...even if I have GIVEN it to them to GIVE AWAY FREE of my OWN ORIGINAL MUSIC. If "Mom and Pop" want to contest it they can do it in COURT. Which they would undoubtedly win...months later....and at what expense?

Meanwhile poeple are getting pissed cuz they come in and try to buy Brittany Spears for 9.99 and its 15.99...and they say "WHY IS IT NOT 9.99? THE COMMERCIAL SAID 9.99!!!"

and the reason is because they only let it sell for that price at BEST BUY or K-MART or WAL-MART etc because they want them out of business. They want mom and pop gone and they want people like me gone to who create their own music and share it becuase it INTERFERES WITH THEIR MAJOR LABEL ARTISTS RECORD SALES.

Apparently another 22% of music is shared by people having their stereos up too loud, perhaps they will be clamping down on this, and making everyone wear headphones, so only the people that paid for the music can hear it.

Obviously RIAA are idiots, so perhaps I can try to sell them my new device, it's a audio in-ear decrpytion device. The music is played through your loudspeakers as white-noise, and only the person with the correct PGP key can listen to it through their ears, as it's decoded realtime, in-ear..

I will sell the RIAA this technology for a very reasonably $1,000,000

I guess scrambled audio is next and everything will sound like white noise, unless we buy the RIAA's decoders.

Most of the big city police and fire departments are now using a "digital" 800-900 megahertz trunked radio system. You have to buy a new receiver to hear these signals...

lol ,, about it.

If this keeps up the RIHAHA will be asking us to start marching in rank with martial music, copyrighted of course, and force us to watch executions by cd of people that dared use a cd burner!

This is a sad case of people not getting off their sory butts and launching a class action against those, insert description here, that think they can do what ever they want.

This is a joke now, the RIAA have no idea that their record compinies are retarted.
My last 10 cds i bought this year had to be imported from the usa to australia as no record company gave it a local release, let alone trying to buy certain records that were on LP and will/may never see cd release, due to a small number of people wanting to pay money for a remastered release on cd.
But no they expect everyone to buy teeny bopper crap and be happy with their studio manufactured music.
The RIAA are going to alienate what paying customers they have left.
Yes they need to try and stop people from doing it, but you have to try and protect the honest people as well.
I have all my cds as mp3's on pc to play tunes as i wish and i back them up on blank cds to use in car as i refuse to put in original discs.
It will be very funny if they are allowed to get there way in the courts.
Why dont they use the massive waste of money they are going to spend on sueing people to feed people or look after the homeless?

You might wanna try RHINO RECORDS or RYKO DISC if you're looking for remastered 60-70's rock vinyl...

same old arguement, different media...

They tried it with casette tapes and failed

It was tried with vcr's and it failed

get a grip

I'm curious to know if everyone here is missing the point of the article.

"However, the group has apparently had a change of heart after a recent NPD Group study showed that "burned CDs" accounted for 29 percent of music obtained by listeners in 2004."

29% of music *obtained* by listeners. Are they referring to people purchasing bootlegs on the streets of New York? Or are they referring to Average Joe, burning a copy of his 'To Wong Foo' soundtrack for a friend? The article doesn't specify, really. If they're starting to organize efforts against piraters/bootleggers selling fakes on the streets, I say hell yea.

Man o'man, when are they gonna to stop bugging us...

Regarding the comment by ispamforfod, thank you for taking me to school on this matter. I'll just sit in the back of the room and let you tell us all about it! LOL
If I understand you correctly since the RIAA regulates ITunes, Napster, Musicmatch etc these services are safe and we; the consumer can continue to burn CD's, right? Keep in mind this forum is about the RIAA wanting to put an end to CD burning. Please correct me if I'm wrong again!!!

This is just ridiculous. Nobody needs the RIAA! Not artists and not music fans. I think that's their main problem. They serve us no purpose and now they act hostile towards us? What gives them a right to tell me what I can put on my optical media?

BTW... There's no way in hell they can stop people from copying music. Encryption and DRM can be broken (look at DVD's) and if worst comes to worst people can copy songs from the radio. Deal with it. There are still plenty of honest people who are buying music to support their favorite artist and get an "official" CD.

The RIAA should be thankful to even be around these days, still leeching profit from those who deserve it... The artists who actually create and perform their music. It's only a matter of time before bands wise up and start selling directly from their own websites.

I just shelled out nearly $100.00 for a box set! It's being put out by an independent label. I'm Boycotting the RIAA's big four companies, until thet get off our backs...

Coming from a legal stand point, my family using AOL downloaded kw: MusicNet that comes with unlimitted downloads and streams. But each song they want to keep I shell out .99 per song onto a burn. Keep in mind, when the songs are done burning musicnet closes the session. Also, these are legal copies that each person is allowed to keep because it was purchased. Now as to services like MP3RAID they are going through some rough patches mainly because as the middle guy some files being s***ed are not legal. But that is due to misuse of the service. But wait, why stop there why not go nuts with StreamLoad allowing instant beam of data appearing to it's million or so members for unlimitted storage but pay for obtaining each item. IT's really about choice, and each service is the middle ground with a bunch of rules that states they will not be held liable for brech of contract or by it's own "Terms of Service". MusicNET will never be affected by this because no member can stream the data it's on a sole server without membership "NO Access"

Learn more about StreamLoad goto http://www.streamload.com/

first of all: I respect copyrights. meaning I dont download and sell anything copyrighted. but I do still owe about 800 Lp's. and I have created backups from all of them. and made some compilation cd's/dvd's...I have paid for each one of those Lp's. so now I wont be able to do that anymore because of the RIAA ? I download and pay for every song I like. The RIAA wants to forbid me burning them to a cd for my own use ? why dont they sue the cd and dvd manufacturors for making it possible to record blank cd's ? they should definitively see lots of shrinks, this is a serious case of mental degeneration...

Hmm, I think the RIAA knows that if they "go after" CD burning (or mp3's, or Napster), they know lots of ppl will be talking about it, especially online. Ie, a forum poster will say something like "if you want to come after me for stealing your music, you'll have to target this program/that service, not CD burning". All the while they're prolly reading all of this, finding out what to really go after. They're prolly glued to this webpage right now. It must be their way of getting at the trout, I mean truth. :O (case of reverse psychology here?)

I say we blame/sue singers for making albums in the first place. THAT'S what's causing everyone to burn mp3's. >:]

Eat it, RIAA.

U know.... some of you guys really have no concept of reality..... Lets try to do this in order:

Sloth999- go ahead, take the RIAA to court. I bet you dont even have enough money to pay a lawyer for the initial filing, not to mention the lawyers and court fees, proceedings that will go on for years. Good luck with that.

Slawless- CDs are not JUST for pirating, they're for securing backup copies of important info. Nuff said.

jcorque- RIAA is already regulating what Napster, itunes etc are doing. they get paid for it all.

bigsexy022870- If they let one method of pirating slip by "unnoticed" then their fight is worthless.

GhoS- Looks like ure the only one in this group that knows what he's talking about (Not including me ;-) )
I'm not even a hard core techie and HOW many people did i just school?? LOL

hahaha that's the dumbest post i have ever read.
the only people you 'schooled' are in your own fairy land in your own head =)

kind of ironic given you speak of the concept of reality.

you're missing the point completely on this topic, just because you fail to grasp the overall concept, doesn't mean your version of reality is the correct one.

there's a reason you're not a hard core techie.. you don't posess the intelligence ;)

I wouldn't necessarily say 'school'. You do have very valid points. I might add that your comment to bigsexy022870 was not completely on target. Even if they let one slip by, you will never convince the RIAA that their fight is worthless. As long as there is a consumer who could have spent money to obtain music legally that chose to use their money elsewhere, then there is someone to sue for the lost revenue ;-)

*LaRfiN!* CD copying has been out ever since the first CDWriter could do 1:1 copies, and that's long before filesharing became famous.

If the courts keep getting used for petty matters like these they may just have to start hiring more clowns, a trepeze artist team, a ringleader to keep things in suspense... the legal system these days is starting to TURN IN TO A CIRCUS!

That's my 2 cents.

Tenoq: What part of Aus. do you come from? Qld here.

Consider yourselves lucky - Australian law prohibits even making a backup copy of your CDs, or transferring songs from your CDs to your iPod or equivalent MP3 player. In fact I think you'd be in breach of Australian copyright if you had any copyrighted material on your iPod - there's no legal way to put it there.

On the upside, we don't have the RIAA enforcing these ridiculous laws. It won't be long, however.

When do we get to take the RIAA to court for harassment??? This is outrageous. The RIAA will eventually get whats coming to them. This is the only business I know of that we sell you something and then take you to court to tell you what you can do with it.

It would be like the car companies selling you a car then taking you to court because you drive it over the speed limit.

Burn in hell RIAA.

Bring back the vinyl LP!

Of course the remidy for the poor RIAA will not be far behind. After all, CDRs are ONLY used to pirate music and have no legitimite purpose. Therefor a Tax should be applied to each CDR sold to compensate the poor abused RIAA. Don't laugh they already do it in Canada.

Yeah, I know, and now the CD's are going to be protected aswell. :/

Edit: Btw, you can pick up 10 blank CD's here for $12.99. If you know the right places, you can also pick up 50 packs for $24.99

They will take some procent out from the skies (80% i.e.) and say that 80% of CDs are used to pirate music, so their OutFromTheSkies tax will be reduced to 80%. And everything will be legal and averyone will be happy. Long live RIAA!!! At least now we will be free from piracy! And I could sleep a lot better knowing that evil pirates won't be able to abuse poor Backstreet Boys (evil grin)

The music that is purchased from ITunes, Napster, Musicmatch, etc. is more than likely being burned to CD. What will the industry do about that? Will these services just sit back and wait for the RIAA to put them out of business? The RIAA is experiencing tunnel vision with no cure in sight!!!

only one comment: LOL

ok I must be missing something here, if they make cd bruners illegal that means they'll have to stop manufacturing cds. These guys seriously need to get laid.

The RIAA is out of control. Someone needs to put thier foot down and stop these guys. If I own a cd then why should I be limited with what I can do with it. I own well over 200 cds. I have mp3 backup of all them. I would never take all of my cds with me for fear that someone will steal them. There for I use my mp3 player when I go out to listen to my music which I paid for. I dont buy many cds anymore not because im downloading music of getting burnt copies. Its because the music bening made now sucks. Its crap made for a quick dollar. And im sure many would agree with me on that. That is the real reason music sales are dropping. Get a clue RIAA. Get off your high horse and do something useful for a change.

The RIAA needs to be broken up. Let the record companies fend for themselves individually and stop this nonsense. They are not a law enforcment agency, no matter how much they might like to think so.

I've seen those ba$tards goose stepping on the streets of Salinas California. Turned on the local 11 o'clock news one night and saw idiots wearing blue police wind breakers with RIAA in big yellow letters on the back.

These idiots obviously think that they are G-men because they wear their Halloween costumes in public...

concert tickets are down considerably as well, does that mean people are making fake tickets and getting in? No, it means people have realized its just not worth it and the new stuff is terrible. The problem is people have gotten smarter, I download a song or two to get an idea what the cd is going to be like because the single almost is NEVER what the cd sounds like and is used just to lure the crowd to buy.
Plus if you don't even listen to top 40 music or bands that sell more then a million cds(I hate the radio) the riaa could give less a damn to indie and underground labels.
The fact its not really hurting cd sales and now they believe recording cds is causing the problem? How can blank media cause a problem? Something has to attach itself to the blank cd if its not mp3s. The increase in blank media is because the legal sites have increased quite a bit for downloads and those songs have to go somewhere. I use blank media for backups and pictures which I am sure quite a lot of people do as well.

Are they nuts. CD burning isn't a bigger problem then downloading, it's the same problem. What did they think we did with the downloaded songs. What a bunch of idiot's. It's a little folish to wanna stop burning now. Everyone and there mother has a cd burner.

What's next? That's easy! Pulling kids shows off television for no reason. The RIAA is out of control and being unfair. If CD burning is illegal because it drops CD sales, close out the music stores and have all music downloadable, burnable to a CD, and we'll all be happy!

Downloadable music sounds like s***. If I'm going to buy an album, I want it in full quality, with the artwork and such.

Not just 192kbps AAC / WMA files. I'm more of a FLAC person.

FLAC doesn't work on my computer, so I'd probably go Monkey's Audio.

It will if you decompress the FLAC files to the WAV format. That's the idea. See www.etree.org for the free software...

Once again the RIAA is far behind the times. It took them a long time to figure out what to do about mp3's and now are turning towards burnt CD's.
The problem is once again they are trying to attack the issue without offering any alternatives. Where were they when cassettes were around? Sure they weren't as high quality as LP's but they didn't seem to be whining about them eating into sales. Often when younger I used to record songs directly off the radio to cassette. I still bought music, just not all of it.
I don't think the RIAA understands that we don't want to buy an album just for one good song. That is one reason people find alternatives. Singles used to help the artist with sales, how you either buy the whole album or you download the file (often for free).
Instead of attacking people for using the technology that is available, the record industry needs to work more on different ways to get their product into customers hands.
I also wonder how much it will impact those of us who mostly use blank CD's to make compilation CD's. I haven't had a CD yet I couldn't rip, but if I got one of those I wouldn't be too happy. I often prefer to listen my own radio station of sorts, a mix CD. True this once wasn't possible, but now it is.
They need to provide value and people will buy CD's. There will always be those who go against the system, stop wasting money trying to stop them and improve the product.

Don't take this the wrong way cuz I don't disagree with you and I definetly don't agree with RIAA in any of their thinking...but...

If people were REALLY didn't want to buy an albm just for one good song, then why is it that legally downloaded music only accounts to 4% of the market? People can go right now on itunes or the dozens of other places that popped up and buy just the single song they liked...why don't those purchases account for more then 4%?? If what you say is still true, then people would be flocking to these sights...I just think that argument has grown old and untrue, maybe it used to be true...but not anymore.

4% legally downloaded, and 16% illegally downloaded. You should really be saying "why aren't LEGAL music downloads higher than 20%?"

I have a PHILIPS CD burner hooked directly to a stereo. Nothing prevents me from recording up to 80 minutes of continuous sound with it instead of using tapes.

The recorded track can be uploaded into my hard drive. NERO burning rom can edit out all of the commercials and set the track markers.

There is no DRM encrytion of any kind. RIAA idiots are outta luck trying to stop this...

what many dont seem to understand wiht this argument is all they have to do is wait for the TCPG to finish up and then you will never defeat DRM because its going to be in your Hardware and unremovable.
ONLY their player software will play ONLY their DRM media types and ONLY their artists will be able to afford to release music.

sure you can use some off player coded but this player will NEVER play any of the "real" media, only the crap that they will allow independent people to use.

DCMA/TCPG = satan

Bill Gates = Lucifer

Senator Fritz = Anti-christ

Wow...let's not forget direct recording from XM/Sirius sat radios. Near-perfect (perfect by most) recordings are completely capable, and without commercials. Not to mention you legally own a subscription to the service...

Whats next lol

I burn MP3 DVDs now anyways.

They said "CD burning is a problem that is really undermining sales".

So people will be going for DVD burning instead... hahahahaha

maybe everyone should start boycotting the artists new music and do what my mom said she used to do and tape off the radio airwaves!
if every concert goer boycotted say 2 or 3 concerts a year it would hit the riaa where it hurts. they dont control industry, we the ppl control the industry! Nobody is going to control what songs I want on a cd to listen to of various artists! I dont like every song on every cd why do I have to have it in a cd if I dont listen to it? The artists act like its their money but I seem to remember alot of B.S. i went thru in a week to earn it!

Has the mighty RIAA been able to stop individuals from downloading from Russian sites such as MP3Search.RU and AllOfMP3.COM? Has anyone utilized any of these sites to download music? Compared to ITunes and others it seems to be more cost effective to download from them.

I am scared to hum a song fearing that the RIAA will sue me for copyright violation.

Have downloaded a lot from AllofMp3.com. Great site.

Are you located in the US? Was wondering if any restrictions on users who download from those sites whom reside in USA?