RIAA president proposes spyware-like solution to piracy

By Ed Oswald | Published February 7, 2008, 6:08 PM

In comments to the State of the Net conference held in Washington, DC this past week, RIAA president Cary Sherman essentially said he'd support filters and spyware-like applications to prevent piracy.

While the panel went on for over an hour, the juiciest tidbits came in Cary's responses to filtering and encryption, which are sure to ignite criticism from the RIAA's detractors over their methods to fight piracy.

"We think we need some help with the solution," he said. "Filtering is one of them. It isn't perfect but it works and has lots of advantages." He said it could be targeted to include only copyrighted works claimed by content owners, and could operate anonymously and automatically.

However, there are ways around filters, and that includes encryption. Here's were it gets interesting: Sherman says that the filters could be put into the applications, or even the end user's computer to prevent copyrighted encrypted files in the first place.

"If you want to hear it, you'd need to decrypt it, then the filter would work," he said. Filters could be placed into the modems, even at the ISP level -- where so far most have been resistant to divulging the online habits of their customers anyways.

Sherman argues that these measures will have an educational benefit, letting the user know what they are doing is against the law. While RIAA acknowledges fair use concerns with filters, he said that shouldn't hinder development of these technologies.

Interest group Public Knowledge has posted bits of Sherman's statements to the conference on YouTube, which can be viewed here.

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So they want to be in control over my computer and internet connection and let ME pay for it? Haha

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbq_1Wy70rE

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Go ahead. You'll never see another dollar of anything if they do it. cause users will be so disenfranchised to never buy another product again at that point. And their so called "LOST Revenue" That never existed in the first place and never would have been even if they charged 1/3 the price they do for content, Will Magically prove to never have been there at all.

Point is The industry is STILL unwilling to treat the internet as a Broadcast medium. They are STILL clutching to a decades old Business model that even the Television industry is admitting is a dead dog, and evolving into Online only legal streaming to compensate. Look at services like Hulu.com. sure its got Advertisements, but its Fast, Its instant, its on demand and its free... And it has a royalty system built into it that both benefits artist and studios, as well as generates online ratings for advertiser dollars. And the need for archiving is reduced by free and legal means of replay whenever desired... Not to mention that Archiving is still possible either with recording tools, OR Digital Download for a marginal price... And because its instant fast and free, the need for sharing is reduced to nil. SO much so that they encourage you to embed the streams on your webpages at will. (OK that has been reduced a little recently unless you are a Hulu.com member, but it still there)

Music has yet to even make the acknowledgment that something is wrong with how THEY do things. that Now they are asking for permission to violate the 4th amendment, and to invade privacy of consumers with Virus like activity similar to Sony's rootkit fiasco... As if that didn't damage their reputation enough.

My opinion go ahead and do it RIAA. May it be the last nail in your coffin for all I give a dam. Maybe then finally we will get a government that will wake up to your bulls*** and put some regulation on your a** to force you to evolve as you should have 10 years ago.

The internet is a broadcast medium no different then the public airwaves (UHF, VHF, DTV, AM, FM, and eventually XM) and as such should be treated equally. The sooner the RIAA get that though their heads the better.

I actually sat down and looked at my logs. you know the last time I have downloaded music? 4 years ago. 4 years!! And that ended up being a soundtrack that I went in and got the CD for because I liked it so much... That was practically the last music I have had any desire to download and purchase at all... Thats a sad state to say that for 4 years they have not had anything worth even considering produced, but this is fact... and THIS is the real problem the RIAA has. And no amount of anti piracy measures for things that are NOT REALLY piracy at all, is going to fix.

the term Piracy is so loose ATM that just about ANYTHING that is done by an end user digitally is considered piracy. Up to and including Riping for private use from purchased CDs. IE Putting legally purchased CD content on your iPod or whatever... Nope to the RIAA thats illegal piracy.

SO be it, Charge me with a Federal Felony FOR ONCE and give me the death penalty if you please. Yo Ho, Yo Ho, a Pirates life for me. With the Burden of proof set that high the RIAA would never stand a chance in hell. Thats why they keep their cases in Civil court FAR FAR away for Supreme court juries prudence. In civil court they proof NOTHING. They simply say This is this, and we can show that it could have been possible to do it, not that it was ever done. The judge rules to whoever pays him off and they go with a Fine... No 5 years, No 250,000 per, No Federal charges what so ever. So much for that FBI warning label.

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With the Burden of proof set that high the RIAA would never stand a chance in hell. Thats why they keep their cases in Civil court FAR FAR away for Supreme court juries prudence.

Not really. They do it because that is how it should be done according to Copyright law.

They are exploiting the system.

The solution isn't getting rid of them or pirating their content. The solution is to fix the system.

Fix copyright and the problem goes away.

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Artists are not ralentless investigators of alien activities. IMO we are talking about dealers.

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I've come to the conclusion that people actually enjoy "stealing" from these pricks. I know I do.

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Amen brother, it's evolved from at first being a powerful statement, to "fighting back", to eventually just plain being f*cking fun. How can one NOT enjoy sticking it to these pieces of sh*t? Especially when you've got other habitual a$$holes on betanews continually calling us all theives while quoting a corrupt f*cking bullsh*t a$$ law that was WRITTEN by the very same people that are stealing 'legally' from our pockets.

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The RIAA is pure scum.

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RIAA should have every right to protect their content. Anyone ripping songs or illegally downloading is STEALING, plain and simple. If you like the song/artist then why wouldn't you want to spend $1 and support them? Stop being so cheap

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....I just love how you said "their content." It's the artists' right to have access to their content and how they distribute it. But you hit the nail on the head....the RIAA thinks they have every right to screw over their content creators and claim it as their own.

And with your 1 dollar, not even 5 cents will go to the people who deserve it the most. It's people like you who delay the inevitable

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You know If RIAA develop try-and-buy schema for music and video, then I will pay for it. Otherwise no point to pay for some recent trash that some people called music. I more than happy to pay DIRECTLY to artist and their band, but not to the industry that just use them to get more $$$. RIAA is monopoly in music, its stop progress. Have to be demolished!!!!

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Did you say anyone ripping songs is stealing? Are you actually saying I cant take a CD and convert it to MP3 for my portable music player?

By your reasoning, I should pay for a song in MP3 format that I already own on CD?

I just want to make sure I read your post right before I list the ways in which you are completely wrong.

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"I more than happy to pay DIRECTLY to artist and their band..."

Seriously, I'd probably pay MORE if it were directly to the artist/band. There are a lot of bands that I've liked over the years that seemed to fade away because they couldn't make it onto the charts. We'd see a lot more musical diversity if musicians could get a living wage off of smaller fanbases.

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I wonder what Barack Obama would do... I'm sure that along with switching us to solar power, fixing diplomatic relations and uniting the country, he probably has a definite stance on the fact that he has a solution to this problem -- you guys should just wait to see if he gets elected (laughing) --

OR -- you could use Wikipedia and look up things such as the Paladium platform and see that there were BETTER ideas in the past that just like the move from DRM to open MP3 -- are proof that blocking piracy doesn't stimulate higher sales... and users will end up not using platforms that are controlled...

Sherman is silly. It would be easier to force the entire automobile industry into producing hybrids and dishing out an ultimatum to the energy and gas companies than doing this...

Idealists should get editorial coverage, not news coverage.

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AntiochM,
The problem with B Obama, is What's black and sits inside a bell? The answer my friends "Ah Boooongh".
I'm sure Bill & Tollie will endorse these comments.

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???

I might...if it made any sense.

I won't even bother to correct your spelling...

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Wow, count all the posts from those who hate the RIAA. Sure are lots of 'em. It would be great to see some polls pop up to see just what percentage of the population actually does hate this so called RIAA organization.

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Just we are clear here, it's OK for me to buy a used CD for a penny on ebay with free shipping according to the RIAA?

Does the penny I paid for the disc make the way I got the songs legal?

What if I paid a penny for a thousand CD's with free shipping? Still OK?

I can physically share my newly aquired 1000 CD's with 100 people without getting arrested or sued, correct?

I find it interesting that in my crazy unrealistic scenario that it is legal for me to get approximately 1.6 million songs in peoples hands for a investment of one cent and it's legal on my end.

If the people who borrowed these CD's happened to rip them or make a copy for themselves, it's on them, not me.

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Don't forget the flea markets and garage sales. You can rent CDs and DVDs at the public library and rip them too. EBAY is infested with a constant deluge of pirated Grateful Dead related albums that do not exist and aren't even in the Schwann catalogs. and these RIAA imbeciles worry about somebody downloading inferior MP-3 music files...

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It's all in the licensing and in the laws to protect both us and the content owner.

Sure, ridiculous scenario's sound ridiculous...imagine that. (Duh?)

You can take *anything* to the asinine to make it look *gasp* asinine. Nice straw-man.

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I have given the RIAA and recording artists over $20,000 of my money over the years for overpriced CD's with one or two decent songs.

I'm tired of it and so is everyone else. We all know that CD's cost pennies to produce and the inflated price fixing went on for years.

Now it's my turn for payback.

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The only thing that's "clear" hear is why do they even bother. I can only guess that its sort of like someone who's been shot in the heart in the middle of nowhere. They know death is inevitable, but they still fight for their lives in a futile struggle to live as long as possible in the quantum infinitesimal chance that somehow they'll make it even with a giant hole in the heart.

Sure things are going to get ugly with the RIAA/MPAA.. REAL UGLY and REAL UNFAIR at some point in the next 5 years, but fortunately that won't effect the eventuality of demise (or something just as satisfying) as it is stable and the outlook is good for the rest of us little 'peons' who through purchase, fund massive houses, boatloads of cocaine, absurdly priced cars (wh0res optional) and lifestyles that many of us who have consciences, can't possibly live. I can't wait. Good riddens.

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what a downright idiot this Sherman guy is

hardware filtering requires participation from the hardware manufacturer. The RIAA is hated by pretty much everyone. Hardware manufacturer does business with RIAA....no one buys hardware. Manufacturer goes under. End of story.

Someone shove this a****** into an economics class....it seems that I know more about running a good business than this guy

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SONY gave us the rootkit. Their CD/DVD burners are made by a RIAA/MPAA "Mafia Commission Member" company. These should be the first ones to be infexted with Sherman's spyware...

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Flamebait. What a title...

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you ppl need to stop pirating and buy, else stop complaining. That's like a bunch of criminals and cons complaining entrapment...don't do it and it won't be done. Equally annoying hearing it from the piraters

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enjoy your high-priced and heavily-DRMed music

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Dude, you don't get it. I'm not a pirate, and I'm saying it's a bad policy. In fact, you have just proven my point... People do not understand why this is a bad deal, even for those of us who buy music legally. You aren't upset about it now because it doesn't impact you. The thing is that it's much easier to open the door by saying you're chasing pirates. Then, when you're ready to go after people who are not pirates, the technology will already be in place. Read the public statements of members of the RIAA. They want to encrypt the entire channel from your hard drive to your sound card so you can only play approved content. If you find an old CD from the 80s at a garage sale, the new technology won't let you rip or listen to it because you are supposedly a pirate, ready to steal that music. Please open your mind and think about where this can go 3, 5, or 10 years from now.

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my point is it would not have gotten this way if so many didn't pirate...and if you don't...RIAA issues aside you know this to be true. I don't like what they have to do, but I completely understand it. Same reason why I put up with things like Starforce in the games I buy.

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Alphatrigon YOU are the one that really doesn't get it. What Plumlipstick said in his reply is damn on tartget. One more point. A legal entity such as the police and a government agency can, in certain occasions go as far as tapping your phone or what ever other communication device you have BUT it needs a warrant. The RIAA is NOT and never was a legal agency. They only thing they are is a corporate agency. Orwell was trying to warn us about intrusive government but he forgot corprorations, PRIVATE entities acting as though they were judge, jury and executioner.

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"A legal entity such as the police and a government agency can, in certain occasions go as far as tapping your phone or what ever other communication device you have BUT it needs a warrant. The RIAA is NOT and never was a legal agency."

Which is why they got busted in New York. Sherman's gang hired UNLICENSED private investigators to spy on people and hack their computers. They can't even get a warrant! The RIAA mafia will violate the laws if the end justifies the means in their warped minds. That is how you end up living in a communsit or a fascist police state...

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Sir:
My point is the word pirate,define pirate for me will you.If someone broke into your computer and stole your files I would say that is a pirate,if someone downloads an album and receives financial compensation for it,that is a pirate.With the inflated price of CDs,downloading an album to see if it is worth buying is a legitimate purpose don't you think.Does taking a book from the library make me a pirate because I did not purchase it?
The RIAA is not interested in the welfare of anyone but themselves,the content is just an excuse. Profit is the reason they are so Nazi-like

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I don't know why they even bother posting this crap, it's never going to happen given the direction that the online music business is going. People are growing tired of the RIAA and their 1984 mentality.

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Of course the RIAA would be in favor of spying on everyone! They would go communist if they could!

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"They would go communist if they could!"

Not likely, then all their "intellectual property" would become property of the state, owned by all. If anything, they are trying to stem the tide of an unofficial movement towards a communist-music-ownership world.

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~GOOD POINT~

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Don't you mean fascist? Not even Adolf Hitler nationalized Germany's military industrial complex. Most of those famous companies still exist today...

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I think they pretty much already are!

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"...customers anyways..." anyways is not a word

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Another point showing why RIAA and that kind of mafias should be wiped like the Italian one, arrested yesterday in NY

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It's clear that communication from within RIAA's own channels is broken...

If I were an executive at one of the large Record companies, I'd make sure this guy found another job...perhaps as a caddy for Sony's CIO. They could discuss the rootkit drama that they purportrated back in 2005 and what effect it had on Sony's Image from a "techie's" standpoint...

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And count the money they made, from selling CD/DVD burners and blank disks, to the pirates who made illegal copies of their albums and movies. IDIOTS!!!

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You're ALL pirates until proven innocent by the RIAA.

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And I'm sure the RIAA would give extra consideration to anyone donating $$$ to them lol...

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Lol! Finally! Someone speaks the truth! Lol.

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Exactly. When they started bullying everyone with letters demanding payment regardless of what the circumstances are is when I decided not to pay for music anymore.

I also found out that certain countries like India only pay about half of we pay here in the states for games (namely Nintendo GBA and DS). Once again, the country that has people with disposable income get the shaft.

And they wonder why people look for every way to circumvent paying for music, movies, software and games.

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You pay higher retail prices for your prescription drugs; so greedy corporations can sell them cheaper in foreign countries. Some people (you) have to subsidize all of that laboratory research, while the others get a free lunch.

The same goes for Microsoft trying to sell stripped down copies of Windows XP in Asia. The Chinese and Indian geeks would rather run bootleg VLK software instead of buying that junk...

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I figured that out a while ago, that's why I look for every advantage and don't let companies and organizations bully me into thinking sharing and backing up my own music and movies is wrong.

I also don't feel bad when I download a game ROM for my DS or GBA as they shaft the US population constantly with higher prices than the rest of the world.

Nintendo is very, very pissed about the "homebrew" cartridges which are becoming hugely popular here. In China and Japan, it's already at epidemic levels.

It's pretty much over for the RIAA, the days of milking the cash cow are over. They are grasping at any straw they can reach and the ideas get more desperate every week.

Why do you think Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are being pushed so heavily? It's not to give you better picture and sound. They want control over movies because today, you can copy almost any DVD today and burn it to a disc in about twenty minutes for 25 cents.

The music industry knows that MP3 is here to stay and there is now way to keep people from copying and sharing music.

They got in bed with Microsoft when Vista was being developed and convinced them to hide the menu that let's you turn on the ability to record directly from your sound card, making it very hard for the average Joe to ever figure it out.

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Another mastermind coming up awesome ideas how to police the internet.

Sherman's solution to world hunger:
"Give them food!"

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You got to love this story. Not like being above the law is it. Its opinions like this that really make using torrents so appealing.

Sony couldn't get away with it then why does the RIAA think it can ? I'm afraid some will be using a certain protocol a little more from now on, only this time I bet they wont feel even the slightest guilt.

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Why not just use a solution similar to WGA under Windows XP. Just have the spyware software display a whole bunch of constant obnoxious pop ups all over your desktop stating that you have illegally obtained music on your hard drive. That would be better than not letting people store, play and share music on their hard drive.

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Yeah...this would be the part where I would say screw you big guy! You won't see a cent from me, as I'll just buy as always...used

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I cannot believe the comments out of this man. You see, it is piracy that is hurting HIS pocket of a couple of billion. Don't worry about the other billions he has already.

People like this must be stopped. This is just a further aggravation for file sharing now brought on by his to his greed. No guilt.

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"Filters could be placed into the modems, even at the ISP level"

Wow... hey Sherman, i like my modem and ISP the way it is thanks, stay the F. out of it. Punk!

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I feel the same way. Net censorship should decease and be opt in/opt out based. This compulsory stuff is nonsense.

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Hey Sherman,

As the president of the Recording Industry Association of America, I would like to introduce you to the fourth amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

And let us not forget this interesting little part from the fifth,

"nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself"

So to thee I shall say only this: You're a disgrace, and so is the RIAA.

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Why let a little thing like our Constitution get in the way? I mean, that is so old school. :P The RIAA knows what's best for us and will always protect us.

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You're joking, surely

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Somehow I just knew this guy was some white headed half bald old man in a business suit from hearing this nonsense, and a quick GIS revealed I was pretty much correct.

http://digitalwaveriding...3-n_102703_csherman.jpg

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Wasnt that guy in Phantasm?

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Attitudes like this from the RIAA is what made me refuse to pay for music years ago. They will never, ever get another dime of my money.

This will never fly, every time they make a stupid statement like this, CD and iTunes sales go down and illegal downloading goes up.

I don't do any file swapping, I strictly download non DRM'd MP3s from Usenet / newsgroups. I will convert CD's to MP3 but I never share online.

When the RIAA became the school bully is when I kicked him in the nuts (like you have to do with bullies) and havent bought a CD since.

If you download a single song illegally, you might as well download a million (like I do).

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There no DRM on my FTP. :)

I've got plenty of Sony Films on there.

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I purchase an artist's remastered library of CDs to replace my existing library and give the old CDs away.

I re-rip my MP3s from the newly-purchased CDs and give the old MP3s away.

I don't see the problem here. :)

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So you can screw the artists...just like the RIAA?

Niiiice....

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Hey man, I didnt tell these people to get into music instead of getting a real job. I follow the central message of Budhism, which is "Every man for himself".

It's all just 1's and 0's anyway, electrons and magneto-optical blips on a spinning stack of platters. Once you simplify it down to the point of ridiculous, it doesnt sound so bad.

It's all in the way you look at it. What I find interesting is how many people who call themselves "religious", illegaly download music, software and movies, then go to church pretending to be righteous.

At least I know I'm a jerk and don't hide behind something pretending not to be.

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It's all in the way you look at it.

You mean it's all about how well you can totally ignore everyone else in the equation.

At least I know I'm a jerk

Ya got me there. At least you aren't deceiving yourself in that department.

You may think of it as nothing more than 1's and 0's because you have chosen to be completely blind to several things. But hey, some folks like burying their heads in the sand when it serves their own greed.

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If you're reading this story and telling yourself that you've got nothing to worry about because you don't do file swapping, you're about to receive a shock. This will impact you, even if you play fair and buy your music legally. Right now, it is legal for me to buy a CD and give it to you. It is ok for me to sell you a CD I have owned, even if I've listened to it a hundred times. However, if the RIAA can strengthen its stranglehold on music in America, you could find yourself targeted by some of their new filters and spyware. What if they don't like you getting a CD from someone and playing it? How about if you want to rip that CD to mp3 files to listen to on your mp3 player? The RIAA has said publicly that they want to put DRM technology on all new hard drives. Have you considered what this means to you, a loyal and legal music fan? With each step they take, they become more bold. That's because people can't see where the whole thing is headed.

We have more raw power than the RIAA. It's too bad the silent majority is so silent. I don't mean that piracy is ok. I do mean that allowing an industry to use spyware and bullying tactics is foolish and will eventually result in an innocent bystander getting hurt. Those of us who are their customer base still have the ability to pull the plug on these tactics by keeping our wallets tucked firmly in our pockets. No, I don't mean we should turn to swapping music illegally. I do mean that if the RIAA sees sales taking a dive without seeing a spike in file swapping, they'll be forced to start rethinking how they treat their customer base. Right now, we let the RIAA do what they want because they're going after some nameless evil pirates. We think we're ok because we aren't pirates. The only problem is that many "pirates" are not actually doing anything criminal. For example, I got a DVD for Christmas and put it into my computer to watch it. I got a nice little lecture from Sony and Microsoft on people who try to play content for which they don't have the proper license. In my case, I had obtained the movie legally. It seems that my DVD player doesn't handle Sony's new encryption format. This was a movie bought from Sam's Club and that was still in its shrink wrap when I got it for Christmas. I got no guidance from Sony about what was causing my problem and was treated like a criminal who was stealing something. I can see the possibility down the road that people who attempt to play content for which they don't have a license could trigger a spyware-like program or filter to see what else we're up to. The RIAA could claim I was a pirate and therefore could spy on me without my knowledge or permission.

By the way,I found out that I can't actually play this movie at all unless I buy a brand new DVD player. Since I'm not a movie buff, I'd rather sell the movie on Ebay for $5 and treat myself to some hazelnut cream coffee. Oh yeah, my coffee hangout knows how to treat its customers well. They actually go out of their way to welcome me and don't accuse me of stealing. I'll let some fool deal with getting the license to watch that movie.

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you have the answer in your comment ...

By the way,I found out that I can't actually play this movie at all unless I buy a brand new DVD player.

... so you didnt buy the new DVD player, and you wont be buying any DVDs

hit them where it hurts them most - their profits

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LOL - ISPs can do anything, however the cost is prohibitive, and the RIAA isn't going to pay for it. These people really need to stop this, its bad publicity for something that won't happen.

On the software side, I doubt any company will knowingly do this. Its bad PR for that company, and no consumers will be willing to allow it.

Further - WE don't need education, YOU (RIAA) do. Your profits are falling, your business model sucks, and noone respects you.

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If only they had a proper business plan intact to deal with the situation. Hell, I'd buy tracks if they were lossless and DRM free for a couple of cents. *thinks of allofmp3*

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If they'd open up their catalogs of older music and sell the tracks for a quarter a track, they'd make money hand over fist. They're so worried about people stealing tracks by Britney that they don't realize they're leaving tons of money on the table. I want to buy *all* of Charley Pride's albums. Unfortunately, Amazon only sells various greatest hits compilations. If you own one of those, you own them all. :( If the record labels made those old albums available for digital download, they'd have almost no overhead and would be making pure profit. That's not as glamorous as American Idol though, so they don't do it. So I'm hunting for the albums on Ebay and at yard sales. The RIAA doesn't make a cent. Their own greed and desire to control my every move is costing them cash.

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Great point!

Back in the day of Napster I found an album that had been out of print (an old band with Ozzy sining on it). I was soo happy! I would have bought it, but couldn't.

A great catalog at a "real" price for non-DRM music, would get me on board. 99 cents or more a song is NOT good - DRM or not. They need to learn from Toshiba and drop their prices to get people to buy into a NEW model. Also, the places that are < 1.00 usually have crap for titles (like you, I have ZERO interest in American Idol, Britany soon to be dead Spears, or any of the pop bull out there).

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"They're so worried about people stealing tracks by Britney that they don't realize they're leaving tons of money on the table. I want to buy *all* of Charley Pride's albums. Unfortunately, Amazon only sells various greatest hits compilations. If you own one of those, you own them all. :( If the record labels made those old albums available for digital download, they'd have almost no overhead and would be making pure profit."

I wouldn't buy most of the new crap from the RIAA at any price. I don't watch amerikan Idol either. You will probably have to download a lot of that old country music from the file sharing networks like the OLD BearShare...

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The-One:
Good point,there are a lot of people out there who would purchase an album if they could find it,the thing about file-sharing is that it gives access to out-of-print albums,European releases of older albums,that you can not get by any other means. I have purchased music from on-line stores like iTunes and Puretracks,but it is a pain in the ass,with so many restrictions on where you can play it,I paid for the damn thing and they are still telling me what I can and can't do with it. Would you buy a car if the dealer told you were you could or could not drive it?
Long live filesharing,it was occuring long before the advent of the internet.

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yes. Very good discussion, i would also buy certian albums if they were for sale.

However as mentioned earlier in my spiel (i think) I would buy my entire 30GB 3500 track strong library if it was dirt cheap, like (the old) allofmp3.com. No question about that.

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To protect yourself against these restrictions, visit www.thepiratebay.org

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Hah....

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Although I do run AV I wont hesitate to drop it if they put this crap in it. I have done without before and I can do it again.

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Meanwhile, Ubuntu is a breeze to install and I doubt they'll find a Linux client that'll be installable without the user knowing.

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Articles make me so thankful I don't run a proprietary OS.

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I wish I could be in the same boat. Still looking for a good/compatible alternative.

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I'm posting this from my ubuntu machine (I finally ditched my old mandriva install for gutsy and admit it's just as good). I do have to say though that linux on the desktop is not nearly as good as XP on the desktop. Linux is great for servers, but as a desktop OS, it's almost as bad as vista in terms of responsiveness to the user (arbitrarily long launch times for some apps, video card driver issues, xen crashing xwin due to driver compatibility issues, etc.). Ubuntu has a ways to go before the desktop is any competition to XP.

However, will I take the performance hit to be free of DRM and their craptastic rootkits? You bet.

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Tell that to my HP Pavillion ze2113US.

Ubuntu 7.10 will install, but will not boot if I install it connected to the internet, setting everything up prior to install (wireless, restricted video drivers, etc...)

Of course, not connected, it will install and actually get me to a desktop...10 minutes after turning it on.

I'm pretty sure it's a kernel issue as previous version of Ubuntu seemed to be just fine on that machine.

Time to throw 7.04 back on there... *sigh*

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However, will I take the performance hit to be free of DRM and their craptastic rootkits? You bet.


Here's a thunk:

Don't install content that requires DRM support, and don't install anything from Sony.

Problem solved. (DRM is a choice, no-one has a gun pointed at their heads)

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In other news, the sky is blue, ice is cold, and water is wet.

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And they are still searching for the killer of that skank who disappeared in Aruba.

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That is seriously shameful. Shame on you. You should be embarassed.

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A 17 year old blonde underage girl at a bar at 3 AM alone with two seedy looking Indian chaps and a blond fat a** who looks like a molester ..... she was just asking for trouble IMO.

Still sucks for her and the family though. People do stupid things and don't think about what could happen.

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PDC 2009: What have we learned this week?

There was the freebie that no one will forget, the heebie-jeebies courtesy of Scott Guthrie, and a teensy bit clearer picture of how this cloud thingie should work.

Live report: Will Google Chrome OS change Linux?

The mysteries of just what Chrome OS is, and how much of an operating system it truly is, may be resolved today.

PDC 2009: Microsoft cares about Web browser performance

The effort to give users of the world's dominant Web browser the impression of quality, is a personal one for the man who leads that battle.

Nokia re-affirms its commitment to Symbian, sort of

Maemo won't necessarily be replacing Symbian in the Nokia N-Series, but that's definitely a place where it will be found.

E-book readers will be in short supply this holiday season

E-readers are hot this year, and a lot of compelling new products have been released, but are there enough electrophoretic displays to go around?

Sony looks to finally open a single storefront for downloads

Sony has had many different download portals for movies, music, e-books, and games, and now it's looking to make a single shop for all of it.

Tuning out the tablet: Time to give the endless speculation a rest

Wide Angle Zoom: Wishing and hoping and thinking and praying....won't put an iTablet on the market.

Five improvements for IT managers in 2010

If businesses are to improve their efficiency for next year, they need to stop and reassess the basic tenets of their job.

AOL's spinoff from Time Warner to shed 2,500 jobs

As AOL moves toward become an independent company again, it will cut nearly a third of its workforce.

Gartner: SMS-based money transfer will be bigger than mobile browsing, search

Gartner issues its predictions for the 10 things our phones will be doing in 2012.

Don't forget to upgrade to Firefox 3.6 beta 3 today

Mozilla has released the latest beta its Firefox 3.6 browser software, just over one week after beta 2.