RSSRed Hat Starts Up Fedora Foundation
By Ed Oswald | Published June 3, 2005, 12:13 PM
Red Hat is attempting to gain more support in the open source community by spinning off its Fedora open source project into a separate group called the Fedora Foundation. As part of the deal, the development and ownership will fall under the new group, while Red Hat will still support it financially.
Fedora is the code base on which Red Hat Linux is based. The company wants to increase its visibility in the open source community, and felt spinning off Fedora was a proper first step. The move mirrors a similar approach taken by AOL with the formation of the Mozilla Foundation.
While Fedora is popular within the Red Hat open source community itself, it does not share the same broad-based support outside the community, as does Apache, MySQL and Mozilla. Red Hat hopes the move will spur increased progress on Fedora and build a larger community of developers.
The first Linux distribution under the Fedora project was released in late 2003. Red Hat plans to release version 4 of Fedora this month, the company said at the annual Red Hat Summit.
Also announced by the company at its annual conference was the Software Patent Commons, which is much like the Creative Commons License used for music and art. The company hopes that the new license structure will allow developers to work together with less concern over patent infringement.
The Software Patent Commons is part of Red Hat's effort to push for patent reform both in the United States and in Europe. The company joined forces with Nokia claiming that the current structure is a threat to the future of open source.
I have tried many Linux distributions and I am never happy with any of them.
One word, actually two :) PC-BSD. PC-BSD is still work in progress but I have tried it and I simply love it. Programs packaged/designed for PC-PCD are point and click install (yes just like Windows). You have a nice wizard, press next to install etc and it installs all porgrams in a special directory called "My Programs" into its own folders. Just like "Program Files" in Windows. This is the closest thing to Windows I have seen so far.
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|I had given up on RedHat a while ago and switched over to Mandrake for a few months and then switched over to SuSE. I stayed with SuSE for a while and started to use Debian on the side but not much. I gave up on pure Debian after I found the Knoppix live CDs and then gave up on Knoppix when I found Ubuntu. So today I use SuSE and Ubuntu but that will proly change in a few months.
As a result of all this I realy do think the Linux community deffinitly needs to sit down and agree on a few standards and proly merge a few of these distros together to get rid of the confusion and crazy distro jumping that comes from having thousands of distros all doing things diffrent.
I have yet to try Fedora but I kinda dont expect great things from it anyway.
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|agreed!!
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|Fedora is junk, it's really unfortunate that RedHat split off RedHat 9 they had a really good thing and they just killed it.
One major thing that Fedora needs is apt, and no not some new this is how we are going to patch.
Honestly, Linux distributions as a whole seriously need a set of standards instead of every distribution doing everything their own way. The LSB just isn't enough in my mind.
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|"Fedora is junk, it's really unfortunate that RedHat split off RedHat 9 they had a really good thing and they just killed it."
Care to elaborate? I find FC3 to be a joy to work with.
"One major thing that Fedora needs is apt, and no not some new this is how we are going to patch."
apt has no bi-arch support. (Concurrent 32/64bit arches)
While I rather use apt for 32bit, yum is the only way to go once you go 64bit.
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|"Care to elaborate? I find FC3 to be a joy to work with."
http://www.google.com/se...3Dsearch=Search+the+Web
158,000 hits for Fedora broken
(that was just a joke btw)
Seriously though,
I tried Fedora 1 and 2 and they were extremely unstable. Yum took hours to figure out what to update, and GNOME was very VERY broken (add a drawer in FC1 and try to close it again)
"apt has no bi-arch support. (Concurrent 32/64bit arches)"
chroot is not that tough. I'd rather chroot than wait 2 hours for yum to figure out what packages I have installed. ;-)
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|Reading the comments regarding Fedora being junk compared to RHL9 and that generation, I have to disagree. During RHL 8.0, a problem with CD burning corrupted CDs prevented me from being able to Burn RHL 9 to CDs and I upgraded via the Redhat Network to RH9. The network was overburdened and updating the distribution was slow and unreliable.
When then to be RHL 10 was being developed, talks regarding media inclusion and the lack thereof in the installation were highly discussed lacking features with the concept of RHL dstributions.
There were several repositories that use a dep resolving program called yum and also a dep resolver/ download program called apt-get or similar. These repos provided the programs that were lacking in RHL and kept these repositories tuned to the versions of RHL.
Of the repositories that were providing value added programs that can be easily installed with matching programs that add value to the distribution, Fedora merged with the RedHat sponsored (and some say too tightly controlled) Fedora Project.
I can say that upgrading is quicker and more reliable with the new structure and the added feature with the network of mirrors. Programs are working a lot better now than they were with the RHL distributions. Advancement is there, programs are there and installable without a lot of dep hell.
The visibility of Fedora and the input from many in the Linux community with developer skills is lacking and hopefully those with the abilities to contribute will come out to make the Project less distribution specific and more enriched program related.
"Fedora Core" itself has scaled down program availability and pushed a lot to "Fedora Extras". With this transfer, maybe program based solutions can be the concentration of the projects and "Fedora Core" can be more Operation system and system management related.
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|FC1 was broken... not doubt about it. I stuck to RH9 till fedora release the FC2.
FC2, at least in my case, was rock solid.
FC3, again, was rock solid, best release yet.
As for yum, RH/Fedora has been working hard to improve it.
In FC3 it was usable, and as far as I could test, FC4Test yum performance was OK. (Not apt-like, though.)
As for apt... what I meant was:
You can't install a 32bit version of an RPM if the 64bit is installed.
Cheers,
Gilboa
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|I'm a bit disappointed with the whole Redhat/Fedora progress. I tend to use Gentoo these days for my Linux box at home, and I only tend to use the Redhat enterprise or Suse for clients.
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|Actually Fedora Core 4 is due to be released June 13. A few weeks not a few months.
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|not to be picky, but:
"Red Hat plans to release version 4 of Fedora this month, the company said at the annual Red Hat Summit. "
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|I could be wrong, but I believe it read differently when the article was first posted. Need to remember to quote next time.
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