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Rep. Lantos to Yahoo: 'Morally, You Are Pygmies'

By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews

November 7, 2007, 3:25 PM

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Rep. Tom Lantos called Yahoo's failure to come clean on its China disclosures "inexcusably negligent behavior at best, or deliberately deceptive behavior at worst." He then asked Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang perhaps the least answerable question imaginable: Would he agree?

"I think we made some errors in preparing, and obviously gathering, the facts for the February '06 testimony," Yang responded. "I think that we could have done that better, and we're not proud of that. We have apologized for providing information at the time, and we didn't know we had full information, and I feel that we're having a dialog now about how to move forward and understand the impact of government-to-company, as well as multi-party, discussions with our industry peers...I do believe it's very important that we figure out how to move forward here."

Almost two years later, Yang still wanted to redirect the discussion back to the topic of creating that interactive dialog - the same topic whose relative importance back then prompted his company to team with Microsoft to craft a pre-cleansed, written response to Congress.

"What is your view, Mr. Yang, of the fact that once Mr. Callahan discovered that he provided a duly constituted Congressional committee with wrong information, inaccurate information, he failed - or anyone else at Yahoo failed - to advise the Congressional committee that the original testimony given under oath was inaccurate?"

Yang began his response slowly, almost patronizingly, by saying he had already apologized for that. But then he added, "I would say that we made no effort to conceal it. We filed it in the Hong Kong Privacy Commission filing in October of '06."

There's the buzzer again. "It's not the Hong Kong Privacy Commission that held the hearing! It's the Foreign Affairs Committee of the United States Congress that held the hearing, and...which was misled by your chief counsel." After this came several minutes of back-and-forth between Lantos and both Yahoo executives, at the end of which came the apparent admission that no one at Yahoo has been held responsible or reprimanded for the decision to come forth to Hong Kong but not to the US.

What has Yahoo done to assist Shi Tao's family since his imprisonment? Lantos later asked Yang, with his mother and other members seated directly behind him. In February '06, Yahoo admitted it had not reached out to Shi's family. Today, Yang had to admit nothing more had been done since that time. He reminded everyone he'd only become CEO again just last June, but turned to one side and acknowledged their presence. He said it was an honor to get to know them, and then added, "I do hope that this does bring a level of dialog that we haven't had. It's not because we don't want to help them. It is obviously a very complicated issue."

Why is it so complicated? Lantos pressed on. "I think that Yahoo should do more," Yang began.

"Well, you couldn't do less," Lantos proclaimed.

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By Second Shadow

posted Nov 9, 2007 - 12:58 AM

Remember Tiananmen

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By robmanic44

posted Nov 8, 2007 - 8:42 AM

These companies really are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Would it do any good if they dropped everything and left China? I don't think so.

The very nature of Cisco's business means they'll be there. This self-righteous stuff accomplishes squat.

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By PhoenixPath

posted Nov 8, 2007 - 8:59 AM

"This self-righteous stuff accomplishes squat."

It gives the huddled masses a warm fuzzy to know their government cares so much for the people in China.

They tend to wonder less why they don't seem to care about the people in the US....

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By cousinkix1953

edited Nov 8, 2007 - 2:27 AM

Funny! Have you ever seen pictures of Tom Lantos? This shriveled up old man looks much like ET's grandpappy.

Olympic athletes will not be allowed to bring their Bibles to the Beijing games in 2008. No bans on the Koran or the Torah so far; but that's China for you...

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By SMFulton3

posted Nov 8, 2007 - 10:17 AM

I will say this, cousinkix1953: If I had survived the Holocaust as Tom Lantos did, I'd hope to look as good as he does.

-SF3

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By PhoenixPath

posted Nov 8, 2007 - 1:34 PM

...just without the obvious brain damage?

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By imafurby

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 10:07 PM

Lantos is a mental midget.

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By billweh

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 6:33 PM

The whole thing comes down to this:

"It's my understanding that, under Chinese law, these are lawful. I understand that they do not meet the norms, certainly, of what the United States would consider to be lawful, but my understanding is that they were lawful orders in China recognizing the distinction between that and your point, sir."

What passes for law in China is COMPLETELY different from what is law in the USA (or most other democratic countries).

When you have a totalitarian dictatorship (China, Most of the Middle East, Venezeulla (sorry about the spelling) what the leaders say goes. If you don't like it, you go to jail and/or disappear.

If Yahoo China had not complied, I'm sure the house would have been cleaned by their government and new people would have been appointed, or they would have confiscated everything and kicked Yahoo out of the country.

These are NOT nice people folks - communism is a blight on the world, it is not a hippy dippy love fest with everyone getting along.

If Congress really wanted to do something about China - they would tarrif the heck out of everything that came into this country to offset the artifically deflated Chinese dollar. They'd also do what they could to get China to take in as much in goods that they export out. But instead - they let corporations continue to move ops there with no regard for how badly it's screwing over this country.

So did Yahoo China do wrong. Not really - they didn't have a choice. Should they have given over the info? By the rules we have here, no, but they are not here - they did not have a choice. Not without putting the lives of many more at risk.

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By NULLedge

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 5:33 PM

you might want to get some ointment for that BURN! i haven't seen a schooling like that in ages

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By CT2001

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 4:52 PM

What Yahoo did was wrong, but Lantos is going overboard with this high-handed scolding. Does he have in his home any products at all made in China? If so, he's being hypocritical.

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By NULLedge

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 5:35 PM

i dont think he ever made the point that he wanted to boycott china. i think his intentions here are to make sure american companies arent getting away with murder while out of pocket

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By PhoenixPath

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 3:57 PM

Lantos: You ain't much better. Forcing your morals upon others is, in and of itself, an immoral act.

"Your morals suck. You're going to Hell."

Aahhh...a truer Christian there never was.

China is trying like hell to avoid westernization. They don't want our "media culture" Sure, they want our business and trade, but the two are completely different. There is a National Pride and Distrust of other cultures there us westerners haven't seen the likes of in generations.

Mr. Lantos, have you *been* there? Have you *spoken* to the students? The general public?

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By drumcat

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 3:51 PM

Nothing quite like using a racial comment to say how bad someone is. That's true politicking.

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By NULLedge

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 5:37 PM

im pretty sure Pygmies don't read US news.

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By PC_Tool

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 8:49 PM

What, it's not a racial slur if they can't hear you? You're not a racist pig if you don't join the KKK (but still feel they're no better than animals)?

Sorry, doesn't work that way. Still racist.

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By KRome

posted Nov 7, 2007 - 3:47 PM

hah thats a pretty harsh line right there

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