RSSSeagate Launches 750GB Hard Drive
By Ed Oswald | Published April 26, 2006, 12:00 PM
Seagate on Wednesday introduced its Barracuda 7200.10, the first computer desktop hard disk to reach the 750-gigabyte storage mark. The drive, with a retail price of $559 USD, is 50 percent larger than the previous 500-gigabyte marker leader.
Initially, the drive will be released to PC makers for inclusion in new computer systems. Starting next week, it will be introduced to the general public, Seagate said.
To put its size into perspective, the drive could hold 375 hours of standard-definition television or 75 hours of high-definition video. In music terms, it could hold 10,000 CDs converted to the MP3 format.
A technology called perpendicular recording is what has made possible one of the largest capacity jumps in the hard drive industry's history. Today's hard drives store data lengthwise across the hard disk platter. However, with storage demands increasing, that method is meeting its limitations.
Perpendicular recording drives store data like their name implies -- perpendicular to the disk platter. This method provides two benefits: First, data is able to be stacked closer together, allowing for higher capacity. Second, data is more easily accessible, thus allowing drives with faster data transfer rates.
These new drives will soon make it into consumer electronics as well. One of the most enticing uses of such capacity may be for the digital video recorder, allowing users to store more programming without having to worry about deleting it.
According to Seagate, perpendicular technology will make possible a 1-terabyte drive in the near future, although the company did not specify if it was attempting to produce one.
I have 122GB of MP3's where the hell is that 200GB MP3 Player.
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|you are an awesome pirate.
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|It is actually possible to get tons of legal mp3's without paying a cent. Just ask the place producing it for permission.
I have about 60 GB's of completely legitament mp3's and have torrented up quite a few.
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|How did this end up as a argument. If you think a 40gig drive if more then enough then fine. But people like me will never have enough. It's not that i don't clean my pc of useless junk. I have 40gigs just in MP3's, 120gigs in DVD(.vob) music videos(cause why watch crappy MTV when i can watch what i want when i want. and various other things. Not to mention i the installed games i have use up much of my primary hard drive just with them. Some games are from 2 gigs to 6 gigs each. So if you wanna bash us for wanting bigger hard drives grow up. We didn't make these games and stuff so big.
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|Wow, that expensive and problematic. I'll stick with my $79.99 250GB HDs from CompGeeks. Forget it for a year or two. Sounds great in theory but what about usefulness, with a drive that large you'll have to increase the IO speeds from 7200 rpm to 10,000 or so to make it sell able because I suspect the capacity will be read write limited to head/cylinder arm placement. The hd arm will spend all day looking for it's place. Then there would always be the fragmentation issue. Sounds interesting but can Seagate deliver and can my little XP computer drive it.
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|What are you talking about? With the data spaced so much closer together (higher aureal density) the throughput is going to be WAY faster on these drives than with longitudal recording. As for the heads taking all day looking for it's place, what gave you that idea? The seek times should be no different than on standard drives. Also why would fragmentation be any more of an issue?
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|Specs say 4.2 ms average latency, faster than my 10K rpm raptor.
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|I read the comments with some wonder. Everyone seems to think that this is a consumer product. It's not. But as a RAID system these drives along with the software for detail data mining - business decision; that is a powerful system at a possible cost point to make it viable for small to mid-sized corporations.
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|Most people that comment on this site are ignorant of that, I've found. Not all--but most. Heh, beta-testing has become too easy to do I guess...
Anyway, yes, this is an enterprise drive. The problem with this drive is that just like the 7200.9, it is slower than most SATA drives--and that is not good for servers. Use for storage or user data, but this drive is predicted to be even slower than the 500GB version (so don't put it in a file server!)
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|I wait for 1TB memory stick
that should replace my hard drive.
Until then I can do with my 40GB hard drive.
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|I knew as soon as I read this there would be atleast one person in here complaining about this drive and 'how no one needs this much space'. I was right.
I'd also like to point out we'd never need more than 640K of RAM or cars that can go over 15 miles per hour... It's people like these that hold back the human race.
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|I'm shooting for the 1EB hard drive, oh yeah!
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|Yah, Thats what im talking about! Now I wouldnt mind a 1ZB or even a 1YB harddrive.
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|Thats one big drive, however backing something like that up you would need a second one in an external enclosure. I can't count that high on how many dvd's that would take to back up, even with the new hd-dvd and blue ray that would take like 25 discs or 150+ at regular single layer dvd.
Could you imagine? GEEEEZ
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|I need at least two of these bad boys, in raid 0. Once they drop to 400 bucks. In time I'll need more. Yeah P2P is the reason.
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|I always laugh my a** off when they try putting media storage into real world terms. I don't know a single person using a file sharing network that wouldn't be able to store at least 1607 hours of DVD quality video using the DIVX format. I made the assumption that a 700MB file is 90 minutes long and of aproximate DVD quality. However, the storage capacity I can get out of a Mono VBR MP3 is incredible and would allow me considerably more hours than they're suggesting. I can typically fit a whole audio CD into about 5MB.
Cheers,
Christian Blackburn
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|I can typically fit a whole audio CD into about 5MB.
...and no doubt, it sounds like crap on a decent set of speakers. God forbid you should listen to those Mono songs in a car. That fade in from rear to front? Left to right? Gone.
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|lol i agree
what a clown i bet you get great quality on that 5mb CD rip...
VBR or not that's ridiculous... i don't mind taking up to 100mb for a CD if the quality is gonna be crystal clear and sound great on any speakers... now mono??? thats just dumb!
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|I want to replace my 400DVD changer with something scalable and small. A media PC with a 1T disk would do the trick. RAID is great for redundancy and performance, but you still need the space and power for it, and more drives mean more heat to deal with. If I can store my DVDs on a single drive, I will.
Try to think outside the box.
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|rijp, It's additude like that that holds the world back.
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|Great idea, but it's too costly for the average consumer. You can get a 300gb internal sata hard drive for around $120, so, to get 750gb (3 hard drives), that would cost around $300. And what if the head crash, you'll loose everything!
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|There, now you have your 600+ Gig plus Hard Drive, happy now?
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|lol.... yes :)
*** does the happy dance ***
http://www.souliejolie.c...default/happy_dance.gif
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|Why, oh why did I click that link.....
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|lol
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|750GB is good i guess...i won't start thinking of getting a new one till they have TB drives on the market.
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|Oh give me a break! Ever heard of a RAID? Ever heard of cleaning up your computer, and deleting all that crap you don't need?
First it was the 400 gig threshold, that wasn't good enough, then it was 600, now they have 750, and its STILL not good enough you want TB.
What are you keeping on your machine? You trying to be a backup for the library of congress or something? You don't need a 750 gig drive as it is, that's rediculous.
And even if you do manage to come up with a viable reason (yeah, right) for a larger capacity drive, its bad practice to keep it ALL on ONE drive. RAID. You get 3 or 4 smaller hard drives, and you do RAID 0, its faster, and you can keep adding drives until you get the size you want...
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|might want to read up on raid a little before spewing a bunch of misinformation.
with raid 0 (and several other raid configurations), you cannot just "keep adding drives" without rebuilding the entire array. once you build it, you're stuck unless you want to lose all your data.
and having a raid 0 is actually worse than a single 750gb drive in terms of reliability, because if one drive goes the entire array goes, and there's more chance for failure with more drives.
not every one can get away with 100gb or so of storage, like you apparently can. let people buy what they want...
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|Wait...
One drive is bad practice, but RAID 0 isn't?
Dear God, man....
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|yea really what is sthe advantage of a RAID 0 none. if one hard drive fails you loose all your data, if you have 2 hard drives setup in raid 0 you still loose all your data.
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|Backups, my friend.
But for gaming, it's a no-brainer. Raid-0 SATA (or Ultra-SCSI if you can afford it) provide an enormous boost to disk performance.
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|Ok lets look at it your way. If you have a RAID 0 setup and one drive fails you lose everything.
Now look at it this way. IF you have one drive and that drive fails...what do you think is going to happen.
That is why you should always keep backups.
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|I could use a terabyte drive myself. I keep all of the video I transfer from my digital video camera on my drive. And I do not do any kind of compression to it - I like to keep it in it's most pristine form for editing and making DVD's and that takes up a LOT of space!
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|Please do not listen to "rijp" he clearly has been fed misinformation.
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|The promise of technology is that capabilities multiply as the hardware improves. What we do with our computers is different today that what we could even imagine doing with them a few years ago. Could anyone have imagined streaming video, downloading music, etc. etc., the things we almost take for granted today, when looking at a "state of the art" IBM XT???? Of course, a few people probably saw the potential, but the hardware wouldn’t support it.
When advancements are introduced of course initially they are supported by Enterprise. In that arena there are a multitude of ways to back up that sort of space. I would love to tell you more about them some time.
The news here is that Seagate is getting a jump on extending the shelf life of todays "state of the art" by positioning it in a dual role of a consumer product. As consumer habits change even more in the way we record entertainment, devices like this will eventually reside in a great many homes.
rjip if what you are saying is that you don't need a big hard drive then thats okay. Lots of people get by with a small hard drive. If you really view what the entire worlds wants or needs from the perspective of what you need, then I would challenge you to "think different".
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|I wish Western Digital would come out with a 1TB Raptor drive. Either that or a 15,000 rpm 1TB SCSI drive. 7200rpm is painfully slow.
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|50-60MB/sec transfer rates. Painfully slow?...I guess. RAID two and you've got > Raptor speeds.
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|I'll take 4 please :)
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|Why stop at 3TB?
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|ahHAHahH SWEEEEEET !!!!!
"the company did not specify if it was attempting to produce one"
you know they are ... :P
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|"with a retail price of $559 USD"
...Can only mean lower prices on existing drives. Time to start shopping for those 4 250GB SATA drives.
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|precisely my good friend :D
*** clcks on to newegg.com ***
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|You are insane!
What are you keeping that you need 1TB of space?
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|You're kidding, right?
DVDs, TV shows, Music, Game ISO's (along with thier installations), etc... I admit, this is the Media Center PC, and not my, or my wife's workstation. (The MPC is at 710GB right now, and getting low)
I could swap the three drives currently housed in it with the 4 SATA and then make the old ones into external backups, or to hold the stuff we don't use that often.. :)
Yummy.
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|Newegg?
Bah!
mwave.com
You'll never go back.
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|Not insane. I've had 1TB of storage for over a year (2 350GB in Raid-0 and 2 180GB drives). The Raid is my main storage. One of the 180GB drives is a backup drive (and it's too small) and I backup the critical data to it. The other 180GB drive is a scratch drive where I load stuff, blow it away, load more stuff, etc.
My next system (looking like August/September) will probably have 4 Raptors in Raid-0 and two of these (or something similiar) in raid-1. Overall it's not too bad, I remember when I spent $800 on my 4GB Cheetah, and 6 months later $1700 on my 36GB Cheetah. My next system, I'll spend $1700 for storage again, but that'll buy 4 raptors (160x4=$640), and 2 of these (500ishx2=$1000).
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|I just did a quick price comparison on a processor between newegg and mwave. Mwave is $23 more. I guess I could continue price comparing but I think I've convinced myself already. Tell me again why I'll never go back to newegg?
mwave sucks
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|My guess? You picked the one exception.
Every one I've looked at (the AMD 64 939's), newegg and mwave have the same prices on.
Whereas the motherboards I looked at didn't even come close:
Asus A8N VM-CSM:
Mwave Price: $57
Newegg Price: $78
Hmmm.....
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|I've never tried mwave; do they have extremely cheap or free shipping on their stuff, and will it be on my doorstep in two days?
Edit: Just checked a 50 pack spindle of DVDs. Exact same item:
Newegg: $14.99, Shipping FREE, 2 days
MWAVE: $17.50, Shipping $8, 7-8 days
Yeah, I'll really be jumping over to mwave.
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|Good for you.
lmao...
It's amazing how people fear anything different. I could give 30 examples of where Mwave beats newegg in *hardware* pricing, and you return with one accessory item to "prove" newegg is better. Who buys accessories at a hardware shop anyway? I can go down to MicroCenter and get them cheaper than that.
You just go ahead and stick with Newegg, my friend. Enjoy.
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|I will.
It's amazing how people have to go on forums and boast about how great their favorite store/game/OS/etc is and how everyone should switch to it, and then make fun of people who disagree. LAME.
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|And just like any other store, you can find cheaper items on both ends.
For example:
Plextor PX-755SA SATA DVD Burner:
mwave: 115.58
newegg: 109.99
Oh, and just so you know, that motherboard you put up, the one at mwave cleary states that it's Refurbished, while the one at newegg is new.
Add that up with cheaper shipping costs from newegg, and there ya go. I'm sure you can find cheaper stuff at mwave, but hey, that's the beauty of internet shopping. You can always get the best price, without having to drive around from store to store.
It's stupid to just use one place.
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|FASTER?
In hard drives, increasing the data density should result in an almost linear increase in read/write capability. So is this drive 1.5 times faster? Will a 1 Terabyte be twice the speed as existing drives?
(this forum is for discussing the 750GB hard drive. Try to stay on topic people.)
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