Second Beta of 'Monad' Arrives
By Ed Oswald | Published September 13, 2005, 10:00 AM
Microsoft released the second beta of its new command shell code-named "Monad" on Monday. The shell will allow for command-line navigation of Windows and enhanced scripting, similar to how Unix shells currently operate. Originally, Monad was slated to ship within Vista, but the shell is now expected to arrive separately.
According to Microsoft, Monad "allows administrators to quickly write scripts, customize commands, and author their own shell tools." Monad is expected to play a big part in Exchange 12, as an administrator would be able to control and configure the server without having to use the graphical interface.
Nice one, and here is the first experience found:
http://www.msvistablog.net/news.php?item.36
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|Umm.... those screenshots show no more functionality than the current command line in Windows, heck even DOS.
dir ...whoopee.
I did notice that they decided to support ls though. Interesting...
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|Finally we could able to see Monad..Here is bit background about Monad that I found on web:
http://www.msvistablog.net/news.php?item.10
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|"Originally, [Monad] was slated to ship within Vista..."
No, I don't think this was ever the case--just a wrong assumption some people had. The very first article I read about Monad specifically stated it would *not*, but apparently some people missed that part.
Anway, there's also a typo in there that I fixed, and the editor/author might want to look in to as well. ;-)
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|Back when Longhorn was still in Alpha, they were planning to ship Monad with the final version (before they had decided on Vista as the name). It was cut out of the picture just last year I think.
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|You have a typographical error in your paragraph too. You should have typed "into" and not "in" "to" as two seperate words. It is at end of line so maybe you knew "into" was one word and simply forgot to put the dash at end of "in" to show the words are connected. Thanks
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|hello guys
a bit off-topic but wanted to share a great Windows Vista community that i found the other day.
it's seems that it's curently the most active windows vista forums that's available
the URL: http://www.winvistasecrets.com
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|I was expecting this to be a troll for a personal site. I was suprised there actually appears to be activity here.
Thx for the linkage.
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|:The shell will allow for command-line navigation of Windows and enhanced scripting, similar to how Unix shells currently operate."
Very innovative Microsoft.
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|Same could be said of many *nix distributions trying to be more GUI-centric, or "trying to catch up with Win/Mac".
Funny though, considering innovation (at least in the mass-consumer OS market) is dead.
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|You have a good point. There seems to be less innovation and more catchup these days.
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|The fact that Microsoft emphasized the GUI and are now getting to making all of that command line manageable, instead of the other way around, tells you something about their understanding of real business end-users, and not just tweakers that like writing Perl scripts on their lunch hour.
I think operating system and developer innovation is precisely what Windows Vista is all about. Instead of being stuck in a vision of 1990's hardware and 1990's core OS services & APIs, Windows Vista looks very much like the same transition made between Win3.1-->Win95. New memory addressing, new set of programmable services, new UI, new file system (soon)... not a lot that's catchy visually, (outside of Aero I suppose) but a tremendous amount that's exciting in terms of possibilities for Developers.
I think the "memory-challenged" people that are saying Windows Vista will 'cause Microsoft to lose customers' are the same people that said that Win3.1-->Win95 would 'cause Microsoft to lose customers'... and those are probably the same people that said that the move from Win98 to Win2000 would 'cause Microsoft to lose customers'.
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|Vista - Beta 1
Monad - Beta 2.
If it doesn't ship with Vista, it should ship before. It's progression through testing phases should go a hell of a lot quicker than that of an OS.
As Linux pushes to become more GUI, Windows becomes more CLI.
Ain't it lovely?
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|"As Linux pushes to become more GUI, Windows becomes more CLI.
Ain't it lovely?"
Actually, I think it is. I'm really glad MS is writing Monad. I hope it is integrated into Vista (like you said, it looks like it should be ready on time).
I'm looking forward to simpler remote administration and automation of tasks that weren't possible before.
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|I think both camps are beginning to realize (not admit, mind, but just realize) that there are benefits to both interfaces.
Now it's just a contest to see who can be better in both worlds.
I think Microsoft has a pretty big lead.
Everything GUI, everything batch/scriptable. How absolutely yummy would that be?
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|"Everything GUI, everything batch/scriptable. How absolutely yummy would that be?"
THAT'S what I'M talking about! That's what I've been wanting for years...
oh man that would be awesome...
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|Don't wet yourself, man.
lol
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|Try Automate. Does a good job of scripting "unscriptable apps". Rational Test does the same thing.
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