All the cool people have iPhones..

I have to use verzion because they have speed and aren't cool.. coolness or performance..

I do see alot of BSD heads using macbook pros running BSD not OSX.. that is cool!!

Mac OS X is largely a front end for BSD Unix. Any program that runs on x86 or AMD64 BSD Unix will run on an Intel Mac.

"Coolness or performance?" Funny, but that has always been an exceptionally easy decision for me. However, anyone not thinking straight might find it a tough call.

Yawn - I'm waiting for Skype to get implemented directly on an iPhone. Notwithstanding Apple's position, I want local apps, not web-based stuff.

I'm sure that AT&T has a clause in their agreement to not allow that to happen.

the iphone was made to make apple money ... that means no skype implementation.

Since you're not allowed to buy an iPhone without a data plan, maybe that's a contingency for AT&T to get paid if this or some other VOIP service comes to the phone.

You can't even get third party apps directly on the iPhone (legitimately) without going through the browser. That's LAME.

I don't like how they're forcing everything into a web browser so you have to have a data plan they will rape you on, when they could have easily made local apps available. Even a certification program that you have to submit your apps to before they could be installed is acceptable if you really want that much (mind) control over your users. At least that's better than throwing the baby out with the bathwater and not letting anyone install apps locally.

If Microsoft treated WM5/6 the same way Apple does their phones, I'd be convinced that the market for any kind of smartphone would dry up very quickly.

The iPhone is nothing more than another fad device. It's Apple's philosophy to lead the masses by the nose, just look at their products and you'll see, user freedom of choice in their hardware isn't what Apple is about.

"You can't even get third party apps directly on the iPhone (legitimately) without going through the browser. That's LAME."

Not yet. There's no doubt in my mind they'll eventually release an SDK of some kind.

You obviously don't understand Apple's philosophy at all. On their consumer end products, the hardware is the way it is for ascetics and to ensure that everything works correctly without any headaches that could come with dealing with different hardware swaps. However, when you order the product, you have a range of different options for it, and they can all have memory upgrades afterwards(well, except the tiny Mac Mini). On their professional line of computers, like the Mac Pro, any of the hardware can be swapped in and out, minus the motherboard because it is different than PC motherboards.

I love haters. It just means Apple is doing it even better. LOL@WeezulDKloser

You have a long way to go in understanding how the world works buddy.

You still need AT&T for internet access when you're not near wifi

Apple will probably release an SDK for the iPhone when they release a version of Mac OS X at retail that runs on any off the shelf x64 PC.

Ooooh... when will that be??? :)

I heard they arn't going to allow any applications or games to be added, hince all the web apps. Because they said it might make the iPhone buggy and crash.

I don't understand, are you for Macs or against them?

Not a big fan of this approach, that's why you'll never see me with an iphone. I'll take a pass on it. My BlackBerry does me just fine, and is still years ahead on the Business side of things...