well thats 15 games that will never be played.

its probably already been posted but what the heck

http://www.betanews.com/...lide_Further/1179514935

wow that ps3 is beating the pants off xbox360!

er my bad thats Xbox360 is beating PS3 (xbox360 has been out about a year now which is quite sad that its winning over a new "SUPERIOR" console.

Yet another desperate attempt by Sony to sell their PS3 turd.
To all the Sony fanboys (who brought delusion to a scary level of mastership), take a look at the current sales by Npd:

http://www.gamesindustry...tent_page.php?aid=25104

"PlayStation 3 outsold by GBA

The latest NPD sales figures show continuing dominance for Nintendo as the GBA outsells Sony's PS3 - but its predecessor, PlayStation 2, is still doing better than Xbox 360.

NPD data for April reveals that the Nintendo DS is at the top of the pile with 471,000 units sold. The supply-constrained Wii s***ed 360,000 units.

Nearer the bottom of the hardware market is Sony's recently released PlayStation 3 which has sold 82,000 units in the past month, while the ageing Game Boy Advance outsold the next-gen console by 2000 units."

Even the Game Boy Advance, a six year old vintage handheld, is outselling the PS3!

A further look at how bad things stand for the PS3: the PS3 launch has caused an immense drop of over two thirds (68%) in operating profits for Sony!
"Sony also suffered its biggest quarterly loss for four years for the period from January to March 2007, with a net loss of JPY 67.6 billion (EUR 413m).
Sony's Game division recorded a JPY 232.3 billion (EUR 1.4 bn) loss, primarily due to selling the PS3 lower than the manufacturing price, as well as the associated costs of the worldwide launch."
http://www.gamesindustry...tent_page.php?aid=25038

So even though Sony is making already huge losses, the PS3 is still selling extremely bad, so that Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter thinks Sony may be desperate enough to do a price cut soon:
"So far Sony has offered no hint as to when a price cut for PlayStation 3 might be announced. Pachter offered, "My guess is that this will happen at E3 in July, but one never knows with Sony." "
http://www.gamesindustry...tent_page.php?aid=25132

Seriously... this is just getting to be too funny... So, knowing that the price is still too high for most gamers, they aren't lowering it. Knowing that there are a lack of exclusive titles, and they can only get 15 games together? We are talking about Sony here... I believe (I don't have a link to back this up) they are at least the 3rd or 4th richest company in the WORLD and they can only manage 15 exclusive titles? Considering that BluRay, Sony Picture Studios, and nameless other brands under Sony are making money hand over fist, how is it they can't seem to find more development shops to produce more games?

Do you really think its worth it for Sony to PAY developers to be exclusive, because that's what it would take - Developments costs are too high for companies to be exclusive. Sony doesn't make money on the consoles, so they need to make money on the games. Paying someone to be exclusive would negate any money making and might end up costing them.

And I think you may be a little off in the making money hand over fist. Might want to research that. They aren't Microsoft. I'm pretty sure they don't even play in the same ballpark when it comes to available cash.

Wouldn't a true hardcore gamer have a PS3 and a 360 instead of choosing sides and cheerleading? Just a thought.

And where are games like Dragon's Lair and Space Ace? They have the cabability to render those in full 3D graphics now. If anyone here is over 35ish they also may remember Cliff Hanger, which was another LaserDisc game.

Preserve the classics.

Agreed, my friend. I'm just about to turn 36, and those games are some of my fondest memories from the "Golden Age" of arcade games.

For those who cannot wait for that to happen though, download the Daphne emulator and grab the ROMs and MPEGs of Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, etc. That'll bring back those happy times. :)

Mike

Is Halo3 going to be for the PS3? No? Ok, thanks for playing.

Hmm... apparently you missed the stories a couple days ago at how disappointed many people are at the first glimpses of Halo 3.

And why is that? Because people set crazy expectations. Not to mention, if what they saw was anything like the beta, then its just a very small part of it.

The beta looks great, runs smooth and is an HD Version of Halo. Its exactly what should have been expected. It has the very same look, but its been upgraded. I've very much looking forward to it.

OH.. and I believe other games have turned the graphics down a touch in multiplayer (RB6V?) so maybe they did the same here too. Either way, I think it looks great.

I just got through playing the game and I think it it lives up to ever bit of the hype. The graphics look great, and most of all the gameplay is great.

Hahaha! people still play that crap? lol

hey sony fan, FUK YOU!

I want ROAD RASH back gdamn!t!!!!

I still miss my copy of Road Rash for the 3D0... :(

I know man! that was the sh!t lol...now I just have it on the PSP but I'm dying to see it on the PS3 with all the new graphics!! that would be soooo neat and it would make one hell of a comeback...hopefully someone at EA will read this lol.

Buy a Wii, Im sure it will be available via download soon.

Whoah! 15 exclusive games for this year! I can't believe that! Holy Crap! 15 freakin' games! That is amazing! I'm speechless!

OK, another idiot...

15 exclusive games DOES NOT EQUAL 15 games...

It's called sarcasm. He did not imply that it did mean a grand total of 15 games for the year...

Who's the idiot? He said exclusive.

Nothing to see here folks. Move along....

Let the battle between M$ and Sony continue in the meantime nintendo will creep past them both whilst Sony and M$ argue between themselves! Wii Forever! :-)

Wow, 15 exclusive games for the PS3. That's amazing. Wait, no it isn't..

http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid=6759

'nuff said.

Notice the date? April 05, 2007

Many of these games have been annouced TODAY.... Sony have been playing the quiet game....

"Sony have been playing the quiet game...."

Sony playing the quiet game? Who are you kidding? They didn't brag because they had nothing to brag about. If they did have something to brag about, it's always press release after press release. Even so, 15 more exclusive games still pales in comparison to what the Xbox360 and especially Wii has. I guess it's more fair to compare the PS3 to the Wii, since they launched around the same time. Nintendo is putting Sony to SHAME this time around.

Wii is a bit like a newer Gamecube with a fancy controller. But I like Nintendo. I don't have any of their consoles, but I genuinely respect them for trying a new concept. It's a big, big risk.

For the others, I'm pretty tired of seeing the same old ideas come around again and again. New console, better graphics, same old gaming concepts. It just makes my tingle with excitement... right?

Wwwhahaha. Sony are like Ninjas of course. They're going to strike us when we least expect it with their quiet game! Ultimate business tactic!!

Hold on while I go back to laughing. It's just too entertaining.

So that brings Sony up to a massive 55 exclusive titles, assuming none were previously announced?

So Xbox360 has 84 exclusive titles, NOT including anything released in the last 6 weeks.

Keep diggin', Steve.

Pretty exciting footage considering the PS3 is still in it's infancy, and the Xbots claim it's "diffucult to program for.."

http://www.gametrailers....p?id=19633&type=wmv

http://www.gametrailers....p?id=19624&type=wmv

I havn't seen anything like this todate on he 360, and frankly doubt it's capable of it either.. (the developers seem to think so too, if you listen to the commentry)

The great irony, Mr. Austin, is that those videos are in WMV.

I haven't seen anything like that either. No. Nothing. Drab commentary about a game that is going to be "ultimately exciting" in such monotone powerpoint-esque speech. Wonderful.

BTW, does it matter how much money either makes? Not to the consumer. I don't care if MS or Sony lose their shorts, provided I like my experience and it doesn't cost me a lot of my money. If Sony or MS wants to lower their prices and get me in the door at their expense, fine.

What you should be concerned about as a SNE fanboi is that there still is no compelling reason for me to pay $599+ for a PS3, short of getting sucked into a "good deal" on a BluRay. If I didn't already have a 360 for a year, then I might consider it. Then I would reconsider, and remind myself that these are the same people that dropped a huge rootkit problem on paying customers.

Footage != Game.

We are not the ones saying it is difficult to code for. The developers are the ones saying it is difficult to code for. I have seen video interviews of developers saying this themselves. You can't get it any more from the horses mouth than that.

Links?

The videos above show that this is BS... These are still Gen1 Ps3 titles, what can we expect in 2009? (apart from the Xbox360 Elite2)

I don't see what relevance the format of the video is in. But if that's your primary point, then It's obvious your being very picky.. It's WMV because many people download the video using Windows... dumba**...

"[...] what can we expect in 2009? (apart from the Xbox360 Elite2)"

I don't know, a price drop for the PS3? Unlikely. Maybe an even more expensive PS3? Let's add a 200GB HD and knock the price up to $699. Or better yet, maybe we can expect Sony to be "folding @ home" (read as: going bankrupt in Japan). *swish*

Huh...I saw a single sentence in his comment about WMV, and I'm pretty sure it was intended as a subtle joke...doesn't sound like a primary point in the post to me.

It was his opening point..

...get over it.

He said quite a lot more than that, and you completely ignored it while latching onto one tiny insignificant joke and claiming it was his entire comment. Then you called him a name that would fit very well on your forehead. Great going.

Then I would reconsider, and remind myself that these are the same people that dropped a huge rootkit problem on paying customers.

Enough of a reason right there to drop every Sony product. Not to mention the fact all the nonsense that happend after the rootkit was discovered... Go figure...

Wince... isn't that what Steve normally does anyhow? He'll die trying to defend Sony rather than believe anyone else has an opinion... lol

http://www.megagames.com...vesx360-ps3notyet.shtml

Ooo, I'm just sooo excited :D

PS3 has games?? Thought it's an cheap alternate blu-ray player.

If they marketed it as such perhaps it would get more sales....

At my local Target you buy the Blu-ray movies from the same stand as the PS3 games, so I'd agree with you there.

I saw this story posted earlier on another forum and it had only 3 exclusives where is the other 12 I am missing?

Not according to Dave. Sony is the best company in the world and is making money off the PS3.......in bizarro world.

The PS3 needs some excusive titles, like I said before, it's pretty impresive but I still buy the 360 version if the same title comes out for both.

I do want to try Motor Storm, the demo looks pretty damn good.

They know what they were getting into with the PS3, they should have figured out a way to cut costs and break even on the consoles so they could profit from the game sales.

I dont know for sure, but is Microsoft actually making money on 360's or no?

Sony is the best in the world. It's so massive and its R&D is incredible.

Microsoft won't be making any money on the 360 until 2008. They never made any money on the original Xbox either...

http://www.gamesindustry...tent_page.php?aid=24765

Not a single cent in the last 6 years... Ohh dear, but if you believe the press, it's only Sony has problems...

Microsoft never expected to make money on the original. That was their entry into the market. The Sony console line doesn't have that excuse.

But...

Why is it such a big deal? Really. One person wants this, another wants that or the other. It's all good from a consumer standpoint. We win. Who cares one whit which company does better because of it. So long as they're all around for the next round, we (the consumers) will win again.

Not really. Exclusive titles mean you have to either go without, or lube up and buy both (or all 3) consoles.

I guess that depends on how much money you want to spend and what kind of titles you may be interested in.

It's still up to the consumer, and the consumer can chose. We're not limited in options here, so I am bewildered by the ranting I've seen in this forum regarding which is "better" or which is going to "win".

You call each other fanboys and such yet fail to realize that;

1.) It's only an insult if you aren't one.

2.) It's quite alright to be a fan of a particular product if you happen to like it.

3.) If you like one product over another, for any reason, guess what? You're a fan.

Arguing about it just seems childish.

I'm sure missed the whole console market thing here.... Actually, no I didn't. The majority of companies never actually expect to make much money from console sales. Seriously. They sell them at a loss and make the money back from the sale of games. Even Sony have done that all along, but the PS1 was a massive success, probably bigger than they predicted themselves.

Even if MSFT isn't making any money on the 360 or XBox1, it doesn't matter. They have many other markets that the ARE making money on.

The simple fact that MSFT is going to make money on a platform is enough to acknowledge that they are doing better than Sony. Almost every market that Sony is involved with (save Sony Pictures) has taken a financial hit in the past year.

Sony game group down $2 billion
PS3 maker's game division posts $914 million loss for the first three months of 2007--and more than twice that for the full fiscal year.

http://www.gamespot.com/...amp;tag=newstop;title;5

Drop in the ocean compared to the Xbox division losses. Microsoft have never made a console that made any money, the 360 won't for another year..

Sony may be losing money still on the PS3, but manufacturing costs are dropping quickly, and the PS2 totally dominated the last generation, and is still selling well (and outselling the Wii).

Xbox division are in trouble, they backed the wrong horse with HD-DVD, they have backtracked with Blu-Ray talk, they have annoyed adopters by discontinuing the Core, they have obsoloted the Premium by releasing the Elite, and in addition to all those problems, they have horrendous reliability problems and sky high warrenty costs.

I wouldn't be suprised if Microsoft threw in the towel, to save money...

they just announced elite, they have 10 mil customers, halo 3 is coming out with beta being played now and a slew of other exclusives, unlike sony who is losing exclusives and there are rumors square may be abandoning sony as well...how many is that now?

It doesnt matter if manufacturing costs come down if no one is buying it.

Sony is not 100% error free especially in the UK lots of problems there.

What does HD DVD have ANYTHING to do with gaming as Xbox doesn't even use the format.

"Drop in the ocean compared to the Xbox division losses."

Funny you should say that, because Microsoft is a company who can afford to lose billions and they still won't be in trouble. The PS3 on the other hand can make or break Sony. Once the PS3 fails, Sony is in deep deep trouble. If the Xbox360 were to fail, it wouldn't even make a dent in Microsoft's armor.

"I wouldn't be suprised if Microsoft threw in the towel, to save money..."

Sometimes I wonder if you even stop to think before you say these ridiculous, idiotic things. MICROSOFT IS CURRENTLY DOMINATING THE CONSOLE MARKET YOU MORON. Yeah, they're going to throw in the towel. God, it gives me a headache just thinking down to your level.

Both companies have container ships full of money. Big whoop if one division doesn't make profits.

Okay. Sony is still losing more money on the PS3 than MS is on the 360. And has far less market share.

Eff the stupid next gen dvd, it's pointless in a game console. Whoever bought the core is an idiot, and wasted their money. If you couldn't have saved up an extra $100 to get the premium, your own fault. The premium is still fine, unless somebody bought a s***ty tv that can't do 1080p over component, in which case said person is an idiot. Even then, MS is probably banking on more people buying the Elite than the premium now. And yea, the quality issues are troubling.

You don't know MS very well, do you?

"Sometimes I wonder if you even stop to think before you say these ridiculous, idiotic things."

Of course he doesn't. I don't get why you doubted at all lol. Also MS has stated that they will be making a profit very soon. In fact they will probably start making a profit this summer whenever they switch over to the 65nm chip.

"MICROSOFT IS CURRENTLY DOMINATING THE CONSOLE MARKET YOU MORON"

Nope. PS2 is.

"UK lots of problems there."

Proof? I'm in the UK, and I havn't heard of any PS3 problems.. There are a few people saying the PS3 is not silent (but Sony never claimed it to be, only "the same as a slimline PS2")..

Interested to see these "lots of problems".

"And has far less market share."

I think you will find the Playstation brand has sold over 260 million (PS1, PS2, PS3 and PSP).

Kinds puts the Xbox and 360 combined sales of 33 million in the shade slightly!!!

"You don't know MS very well, do you?"

Nor do you, it seems...

"MICROSOFT IS CURRENTLY DOMINATING THE CONSOLE MARKET YOU MORON. "

bwhhaaa, you really believe that don't you...

You really need to get out more..

1. Console market is global. Just because a few other 360 owners live in your trailer park, does not mean the whole world thinks like you. the 360 is flopping in Europe and Asia, and sales are dropping off in North America.

2. Sony are dominating the console market. for every Microsoft console, there are 8 Sony consoles. FACT.

3. Sure they are dominating: http://www.forbes.com/ho...re_0418soapbox_inl.html

Why is it that you think HD-DVD is the 'wrong horse'? And where do you see they backtracked with Blu-Ray? Last I heard neither standard has called it quits- and Microsoft said 'Hell No' for Blu-Ray support:

http://crunchgear.com/20...ort-blu-ray-stop-asking/

Both are nearly identical standards- save for the reduced costs to produce HD-DVD discs- and both are equally overpriced (Save HD-DVD players are about 1/2 price of the Blu-Ray).

If Sony's greed and desire to own the market by forcing their 'standard' prevail, we will have yet another BetaMax/MiniDisc/SACD/UMD.

Personally, I would rather buy a HD-DVD player ($299 for father's day) and some movies just to say 'Screw you Sony'- they much deserve it for their arrogance...

I think he means THIS generation.

"1. Console market is global. Just because a few other 360 owners live in your trailer park, does not mean the whole world thinks like you. the 360 is flopping in Europe and Asia, and sales are dropping off in North America."

1. Really? The console market is global? Wow, thanks for letting me know. I'm guessing EVERYONE is buying the PS3 all over the world, and nobody's buying the 360, right? Oh and I don't live in America, we don't have trailer parks here. You're going to have to come up with a better insult next time.

2. No matter how you look at it, Microsoft is DOMINATING, NO QUESTIONS ASKED, the current generation console market. You can keep saying that the 360 isn't selling in Asia or whatever, until you turn blue in the face. The 360 has sold more consoles than the Wii and PS3 combined.

3. Get over the 7+ year old PS2 already. Sure, it's still making money for Sony, but it's yesterday's technology. It's one of the few cash cows (save for the Spiderman franchise) that Sony has left. That doesn't mean you should constantly throw it around. "Well, the PS3 isn't catching up to the 360 or even the Wii, but Sony still dominates with the PS2!"

"I think he means THIS generation."

Yes, obviously. Why would I talk about last generation? But you have to love how the Sony zealots are grasping at straws because Sony is losing THIS generation's console war. Let's all use our time machines and go back to when Sony was the console leader. That's the only way they'll come out on top again.

"I think you will find the Playstation brand has sold over 260 million (PS1, PS2, PS3 and PSP)."

Yes, and half of those were people buying replacement PS2s over and over, because Sony couldn't manufacture a decent DVD drive. Either way, something tells me that 260 million number was just pulled out of your ass. It doesn't matter what Sony has SOLD in the past, what matters is what they're SELLING now--which is not much. I remember when it was Nintendo vs. Sega in the console market. Sega was the leader for a while, but where are they now? There was also a time when Atari was the undisputed leader in the console sector. Giants do fall and Sony has already stumbled as Microsoft slashed at its knees.

Oh and on the subject of the PS2. I love how they only included 2 controller ports and you had to spend another $50 to buy a 4 player adapter. You couldn't just buy a cheap alternative from another manufacturer either, it had to be an official Sony adapter. If you bought another one, they made sure some games wouldn't function properly. Games made by EA for example. Also, they made sure you couldn't use a first generation adapter, it had to be Dual Shock adapter or whatever it was called. Not because all games needed Dual Shock support, but to make sure you went out and spent another $50. If it weren't for Microsoft (and partly Nintendo), Sony would still only give you the bare minimum and happily sell you all the extras like 4-player adapter, ethernet, hard disk, etc. It's the fierce competition from those companies that made sure Sony had no choice *but* to give you all the extras for free.

I've been playing video games since the mid 80's, so there's really no need for you to lecture me on where Sony stands in the console market. They may have dominated last generation, but things are quite different this time around. Sony really shot themselves in the foot with forcing people to get a Blu-Ray player in their consoles. Say what you will about Microsoft, but at least they're not forcing any format down your throat. Even if the HD-DVD format fails, it won't affect Microsoft. They can always release a Blu-Ray add on if they really want. On the other hand, if Blu-Ray fails, the PS3 and Sony are both screwed.

I've heard of overheating problems, and of course backward compatibility problems with some titles (they admitted that, and the key word is "some").

Never heard anything UK specific myself either.

"I think you will find the Playstation brand has sold over 260 million (PS1, PS2, PS3 and PSP)."

Last-Last gen. Last Gen. Current gen (screw that next gen name, it's all current now). Portable. Only one is relevent compared to the 360.

"Nor do you, it seems..."

What am I missing? Are you saying MS is going to drop something that offers extremely good publicity, and a whole different market, because it hasn't made a profit yet?

"... and the PS2 totally dominated the last generation, and is still selling well (and outselling the Wii)."

And they just raise the price of cheese in China.

"Xbox division are in trouble, they backed the wrong horse with HD-DVD, they have backtracked with Blu-Ray talk"

There in trouble because there supporting an *optional* HD-DVD drive? Ooookkkkaaaayyy.

"they have annoyed adopters by discontinuing the Core"

How so? Though Sony is "obsoloted" there core system too.

"and in addition to all those problems"

I didn't see any problems.

"they have horrendous reliability problems and sky high warrenty costs."

Sky high huh. Since when did free become sky high. Microsoft gives you a 1 year warrenty and will fix or replace your Xbox 360 for free (including shipping both ways).

"I wouldn't be suprised if Microsoft threw in the towel, to save money..."

Why would they do that? There *current* gen system sales are higher than the PS3's. The Wii is even outselling the PS3. I mean those are facts. How can you come up with your comments when you know PS3 sales are dead last?

"How so? Though Sony is "obsoloted" there core system too."

You obvously understand nothing about gaming so I will explain..

Even the "core" PS3 has a HDD and Blu-Ray drive, they key to making compatable games.. Now that it's looking likely that Microsoft are discontinuing the 360 Core, games will start to arrive that utilise the hard disk in the Premium and the Elite (there are already games that require a HDD in the 360, and this unavilable to Core owners), this freezes out the core owners even further once it's discontinued.

The differences between PS3 "core" and "premium" are such that it unaffects gaming (HDD side and lack of Wifi).

1. The model in the UK is the same as the model in all PAL territories. So there wouldn't be a UK specific problem, so he is just spreading his XBot BS.

2. The backwards compatability IS lower than the NTSC units, but not by a huge amount (78% vs 90% and the updates are narrowing the gap).

3. The overheating issues are rare, and usually related to people putting them in enclosed spaces, The PS3 does kick out alot of heat, but nowhere near as much as the 360. And if you put a 360 in enclosed cabinet with a PS3 and leave them both on.. The PS3 wins...

http://www.1up.com/do/bl...5345401&bId=8093480

FFS how deluded are these Sony fanboys?

Sony posted total group profits of $600 million for the year ending 31st march 2007.

In the quarter to 31st march 2007 Sony lost approx $435 million.

A stunningly bad set of figures for what was once such a huge company.

In contrast Microsoft made $4.9 billion (net) in the quarter up to 31st march 2007 alone.

The XBox mk1 & XBox 360 have cost Microsoft around $5 billion since it began in 2001......costs that just the last quarters profits could have paid for outright - but of course they were easily absorbed along the way by the profits over the previous 6 years.

That's a real example of 'drop in the ocean' stuff.

The idea that XBox has 'cost' Microsoft in a damaging and significant way is laughable - particularly when it's coming from the Sony fanclub right now.
Ludicrous blinkered nonsense.

The big question is whether PS3/BD will bust much of Sony before any turn-around can happen......and that turnaround will not feature PS3 price-cuts of any significane either, with their disasterous financial results Sony are telling every shareholder & banker they can that they'll be making savings as fast as they can, not increasing their losses by reducing prices.

http://www.theregister.c...6/sony_q4_plus_forecast/

Sorry, what was I thinking?
As if a little grown-up financial comment would ever impact on the child-minds of the fanclub.

......and 15 new exclusive games (presumably all from Sony) cooooooo.

How the mighty are fallen/

You really do live in a fantasy land.

Hasn't Sony halted their low end machine?

It's interesting that you bring up the PS2. If the PS3 is so good then why is a much older outdated piece of hardware outselling it? I can't wait for the planned obsolence of the PS3 kicks in like the PS2. How many people have bought two or more PS2's because of hardware failures, oh yeah only MS stuff breaks. COme on get real. The fact that you have nothing good to say about anybody other than Sony means you are very clueless. Other companies make good hardware that people enjoy.

I have a 360, Wii, and PS3 and fail to see any of the systems worthy of dropping to the floor and worshiping the way that you do. I prefer the 360 so therefore I am going to called all kinds childish names by the fangirls.

Like I have mentioned before I am waiting for the day that SOny locks games and movies to a machine and we'll see who starts crying. You have be concerned about Sony's past track record with screwing the consumer. I see them doing this at some point they have the patent so just wait. When that happens no more trading and consumers will be stuck with crap games or movies.

MS is making a profit on the 360, I guess you are blind to those press releases. The division is recovering but Sony will take longer to recover if they even do. Other companies have made blunders like Nintendo and the virtual boy maybe this could be SOny's turn. Time will tell.

If MS threw in the towel the lovely Sony would increase the price of the PS3 hardware since competition would be decreased. Competition is a good thing for the consumer Steve. Maybe in your dreams it isn't.

WHat if you want to use the built in card readers on your 20 gig PS3, oh wait there is no upgrade path to do that. The core 360 you can add a hard drive and WOW it it works. You totaly miss that Sony doesn't have an upgrade path for the 20 gig PS3, who is getting screwed there?

I'm stating a fact at you. I honestly don't give a s*** if Sony/Microsoft win or lose or whatever.

You said it's dominating the console market. It isn't. The PS2 is still holding that crown.

I suspect Sony will be helping fade the PS2 away eventually, in the same way the did with the PS1, trying to push the new console. At the time when the PS2 came onto the market, people could have made similar silly statements like yours. Overall, it has sold LESS than the PS1, so it effectively it's actually the PS1 which "holds the crown".

But markets change. Money goes into the next generational consoles every time because of the millions and millions invested in them. If people don't upgrade, they've got a problem - same is true for any company.

Could not have said it better myself...

I thought that SOny said that all titles would be playable. At least MS said that not all titles will play on the 360. Yet an other SOny lie.

Yes but if you put a 360 in a store with a PS3 the 360 wins =0.
http://www.betanews.com/...lide_Further/1179514935
"PS3 Sales Slide Further" Hmm there is a pattern here.

What did that have to do with gaming? Also I'm sure all Xbox 360 games will work in all Xbox 360's, regardless if it's Core, Premium or Elite. You just like cuming up with BS.

"I think you will find the Playstation brand has sold over 260 million (PS1, PS2, PS3 and PSP)."

I dont know for certain but think you will find that the gameboy line has kinda smashed those numbers.

The PS3 is taking last place this year. The facts are right in front of you.

But Wii will sell the most overall. That doesen't matter though because I don't consider it next gen. It will be able to run the stripped down games developed for it, but you can only expect it to go so far with its limited hardware. The real race is between 360 and PS3, and because Wii is sucking so much of PS3's early sales, there is an oppurtunity for it to bomb.

If Microsoft can make the best use of this crucial time window, they can emerge victorious over the PS3. They can do this by lowering the price, bundling with games, giving us the 65nm cores and making the best use of their saving grace.....Halo 3.

If MS can capitalise well on Halo 3, its sayoonara PS3.