I'm waiting on buying a PS2 (I have a couple games for it that I use to play at friend's) until it comes down to $100.

I won't be buying a PS3 or 360, but will get a Wii. I just want the PS2 for those couple games I have.

If sony made car's they would have a model that was like a Porsche that no-one would buy because it was too expensive,
another model that was like a 1972 Ford that ran well and was rather cheap, but mostly people would buy it because it reminded them of the first car their father owned
and they would end their lineup with a motorbike that was sold with the promise that it would one day connect to the Porsche model.

Why all the Sony bashing? PS2 has a lot of great games. It makes sense for Sony to market this PS2 to families because of its affordability. One thing Nintendo has taught Sony, don’t underestimate family gaming.
I'd be tempted to pick one up myself after my ps2 died a few months back. I sold all my games though :(

i love that i can instantly tell which games were designed with the PS2 in mind by their crappy graphics and overuse of blurry smudgy graphics, shaddows, and lighting effects. I love when somehow those games get published on other consoles and suck because of it.
/sarcasm

a good reason for ending the PS2 is the games going to PS2. It's infecting the quality of other games and that's just unacceptable.

So far I don't see multi-platform games suffering on other platforms when compared to the PS2 (if that's what you meant).

Even taking games like the Guitar Hero franchise... the Xbox 360 versions of II and III are much improved over the PS2 versions. Lighting and shadows are much better on the Xbox 360, and transparent models are non-existent on the PS2 (the 'Jurassic' tree sap guitar is a good example).

The PS2 version of multi-platform games are usually 'dumbed down' graphics-wise, and in some cases they're left alone when they should have been beefed up (like the PSP ports of GTA VCS and LCS on the PS2).

All in all though, I still enjoy my PS2 immensely... more than any of the next-gen consoles so far (though the Xbox 360 is a very close second).

I think Sony (for once) are doing something good. I like the PS2, I know nothing else, and I'm fine with it. We've enought landfill already so why not keep a product alive that offers enjoyment to millions?

I don't live to play the darn thing, but it's a fun thing to have when there's nothing else to do. I just wish there were more flight sim stuff for it, but it doesn't mean I'm rushing out to purchase a $700+ system because of that.

"Keeping the PS2 alive and well is a crucial part of keeping the overall gaming division afloat."

No kidding!

Seriously though, I'm wondering how smart it was to integrate the power supply into a console that already had marginally effective cooling.

I think the constant support of the PS2 is the reason the PS3 is not where they'd like it to be. They should stop producing them and move on. It MUST be having an effect on PS3 sales at this point.

I've thought about that as well. I think you're right.

This could have been prevented if Sony hadn't gone over board on the PS3 price. And maybe made a game or two for the PS3.

why hate on sony for this? It's PS2, a proven winner. I've never owned a PS2 or Xbox, or xbox 360 or PS3. I still have my little gamecube. Xbox 360 and PS2, older gen are still more advanced than Wii.
on topic, off topic eh...where's the love! :)

The usual reason, it's not Microsoft and not American.

Neither is Nintendo, what is your point?

What hate by the way? Only one person in this entire thread said anything negative about it, the rest of the posts are childish personal attacks that have nothing to do with the article. Yours was one of the first.

And what he said is true!

Says the biggest troll.

Are they using a newer, quieter (new die) chipset?

As a PC gamer I was going to buy the new amazing 8800 GT 512MG NVidia card. After careful thought and calculation I realized that, despite it being the most graphics power per Watt it would still cause my overall computer's fan noise (primarly my really good power supply) to always be noisier. People fail to realize that a good quality power supply with variable fan speed will have to run signifcantly louder ALWAYS to whisk away the heat generated by the higher power output.

The Wii uses roughly a tenth of the power of the XBox360 or the PS3 and the PS2 also uses much less power.

What am I willing to sacrifice for awesome graphics? Did Sony over-estimate how much the public will pay for high-end graphics despite the overall quality of the PS3?

By the time the PS4 is released and power requirements have massively dropped (not to mention an even better solution for movies, games and probably a mature Linux solution in one package) I believe the single combo/gaming console will be everything Sony's dreaming of for the PS3. (but get your act together Blu-Ray.. )

At $130 CDN for a lot of people wanting a quick game with acceptable graphics (especially to those who don't know different) the PS2 has a lot more life.

Part of the current problem is the sale of HDTV's, but I suppose Sony couldn't just sit around and let Microsoft's XBox 360 dominate.

With only 1% of the DVD sales this year being High-Def (and some were part of deals) there is still a significant demand for non high-def. As an aside the Apple TV box is inexplicably only for high-def TV's but only uses standard def for now; as well, people are willing to watch movies on screens with 1/4 of the pixels of a standard TV (why?).

Again, at $130 it's a reasonable price for a quick and easy method of getting your gaming fix. I'm sure the availability of pirated games easily burned to disk doesn't hurt the sales of the PS2 (just the gaming industry).

The PS2's got a bit of life left yet. I'm sticking with my lowly 6600GT 128MB PC video card, but I have to say.. high resolution graphics are NOT everything... yet.

ATI kicks Nvidia's a** any day of the week.

The origonal xbox is so much better than the PS2 thou and the graphics are much better.

Indeed... as evidenced by the Xbox 360's far superior graphics capabilities over the PlayStation 3.

I just thought there software and drivers were buggy though when I had the 9600.

Wow Joey,

You are a miracle, extremely unintelligent and immature. Did your mom have any kids that lived?

Re-read your post and then look up the word hypocrite. Way to bow out gracefully.

edit - someone should post something about the PS2 on this board. So.... integrated power supply - neat. I wonder if it has a master on/off switch like the PS3 (makes it easier to kill the power when you're not using it for a while).

haha um, if his mom did not have any kids that lived, who is he? hmm... irony..

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you mean, but the PS2 has a master power switch (reset button), though it is rather inconvenient to hold the button in to turn it off.

Is that what you were referring to?

What's so difficult about pulling the power cord out?

The on/off switch was round the back, as you say.
It's not like you have to stretch any further... (I'm presuming that's the problem here).

Nah, the old, old skool PS2 (when it was really wide) had a Master on/off switch (i.e. not standby).
No power at all going to it.

Ahh, okay. I guess I never inspected my brother's older PS2 that closely then. Now I understand. :)

So when is Sony going to compete with something new?

It's out already, called the PS3, is like the 360, but cheaper, better, more sylish, quieter, more reliable and more features.

You might be able to find a 40GB one for $399, but alot of stores are sold out..

*giggling*

Okay, seriously... you've got to cut it out. :)

360 is cheaper... then the ps3..

"You might be able to find a 40GB one for $399, but alot of stores are sold out.."

LMAO, man your a retard. The stores I've gone to have them. Fry's alone had like 15 over the weekend. It didn't take me long to convince my friends that it was a waste of their money either, I simply mentioned no B/C and that was that.

"It's out already, called the PS3, is like the 360, but cheaper, better, more sylish, quieter, more reliable and more features."

Ahem, games?

"It's out already, called the PS3"

You missed the key words "compete", and "new"
http://www.vgchartz.com/

Wow, you are mental.
You have no idea about anything you just said.

The best games are on the PS2 and you can't play them with that model, to bad. More sylish what the heck is that?

Yes the PS3 is a great gaming machine, if you actually like playing games however, you are out of luck as there arent any.

You can also buy a PS3 for a cheap Blu Ray, but it's incomplete and isn't 1.1 spec. I almost forgot, everyone who bought a PS3, then got a real BD player says the PS3 sucks as as BD player compared to a well built stand alone.

If you want to read non-biased Sony reviews by people who are open minded, go to

www.sonydefenseforce.com

They even gave Lair a 10/10, you know, the game every reputable review website gave an average 1.4/10, actually they give any PS3 game a perfect score. This is where Joey gets his lingo from because he's too stupid to come up with anything original.

Enjoy laughing at the idiots who are even more hardcore losers than the ones at blu-ray.com

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Update: Get this one, the guy who owns Wii60.com, a pro-MS and anything anti-Sony also owns sonydefenseforce.com.

He started the site to make it look like rabid Sony fanboys run the whole thing and links them to each other to drive up ad click revenue for himself.

Now that's pretty smart.

The site that Joey / Dave has posted text verbatim from is actually anti Sony.

Sorry, you are plain wrong, those pictures you post are Hollywood/Hocuspokus (the same guy).

Unless of course PC_Tool is also related..

Must be another zridling post? Removed?

They usually just mod those down. Huh...

No relation, I fear. hopefully closer to their gene pool than yours, though ya friggin loon.

No offence, the Loon is our state bird, after all. :)

Yeah, you always seem to join in on the conversation after his posts are removed.

I can see how it would be slightly confusing. Trust me, you're not missing much. :)

"BetaNews reserves the right to remove any comment at any time for any reason. Please keep your responses appropriate and on topic. Foul language and personal attacks will not be tolerated."

I hope they start enforcing this someday.

They will never enforce this. They will threaten every now and then.... But they will never enforce it.

The only time I have ever seen them enforce that rule was way back when the US had that most wanted terrorist deck of cards thing. Someone released a PC card game using them as the images in the game. The Liberals and Conservatives all went nuts fighting and BetaNews deleted half the posts and banned a lot of users.

Big Brother is apparently watching. :)

hahah yah,. ah well, :P

All the Sony shills will be gone then since they are the biggest offenders.