What a shocker: Sony paid a fee for this "privilege". Though Target sells $150.00 home decor, their electronic dept. is pretty low-end. As the blurb above states, it's doubtful the Target customer base will fork over $500 for a BR player. Heck, I don't shoe at Target (or BB or CC even). Fry's and Amazon keep me pretty well covered. LOL

well this will clinch it for blu-ray, as we all know, everybody goes to Target to their expensive hi-def needs

ummmm not

I agree, when I want to buy a new HD or blo disk I head to target, Not.

Dave,

I just noticed the TV in your system that you claim to be a plasma is actually a cheap DLP rear projetion.

You suck at lying as well as everything else.

I am flattered that you dusted off your "system" and cleaned up the cables just to impress me. It means a lot to know I can control someones mind from 3000 miles away.

Look, the idiot can't tell the difference between a plasma and a DLP rear projector. What a total idiot.

http://reviews.cnet.co.u...9030218,49261925,00.htm

And this my friend, is why you will always be stacking shelves in a grocery store, and making up stories about pretend buisness trips.

Alright, so it's a plasma. It's an ugly piece of crap and not even big enough to see the difference between regular DVD and HD. You got hosed.

Where's your universal remote? I guess that wasnt in the budget.

A 42 inch, what are you broke? My PIP is bigger than 42". Plasmas are supposed to go on a wall but I guess they don't allow that when you rent.

I admit it, I don't go anywhere or do anything important, I made everything up to impress a bunch of people I will never meet because i just wanted to feel like a big man. You know what that's like don't you?

By the way, I adressed all those replies to Dave, not Steve but I guess you are all the same guy.

I just realized the bulb for my projector cost half as much as your TV.

But I can't be Dave, as I own a Blu-Ray player...

Hey Hollywood what universal remote do you recommend? I'm looking for a good for my system.

Thanks

After going through the Universal Remote MX-3000, various Prontos, and a couple other small touch screens, I finally decided low-tech hard buttons are better than touch screens.

The Universal MX-850 is what I am using right now to control my main system and lighting. The 850 is fully programmable on your PC and if the remote takes a crap and dies, you can always load the file on a new one.

The 650 is button programmable and does everything the 850 does but if it goes bad, you are screwed unless you have a $300.00 reader than can clone your remote file to a PC via the IR outputs.

So here's how it ended up, my theater / projector has a dedicated MX-3000 for the cool factor only for HD-DVD / BD, projector, screen, drapes, audio, and lights.

The main system that gets used by everybody has an MX-850 as I am constantly changing things in that room.

My first floor system uses an MX-650 because it's only a TV, DVD, and a 360. There is a similar system upstairs that also uses a 650.

You will find that hard buttons can be used by feel whereas a touch screen forces you to look at it for most functions.

I though the touch screen would be cool but it turns out they are more of a pain to use, and that's why I only use it for the theater.

Once the macro gets everything in place and you are watching a movie, you don't really touch the remote unless you need to pause the movie.

Awesome thank you very much. Playing with all the remotes is driving the wife crazy so I want to make it as easy as possible for her and me of course.

Oh, mines a 50" so mines bigger than yours (ummm, I'm talking about the TV).

So I'm living in a trailor home huh? It looks mine cost more than yours.

Come on betanews, update the site. Target will not be exclusive.

http://www.engadgethd.co...but-bjs-wholesale-might/

It's only Universal VP saying they aren't, but they would, as they are not ready to ramp up their Blu-Ray output just yet.

This sounds like a desperate attempt at diverting and covering up bad news for HD DVD.

Until Target say so, I believe this story. either way, at best it looks like Blu-Ray has the prominent displays, with HD DVD resigned to the back of the store.

Dave,

I just read all of the hilarious comments regarding the picture you posted. You must feel like a real horses a** right now.

"am in the process of cleaning up the cables"

What? three power cords and a couple pairs of composite audio / video cables and a coax from the dish?

I noticed you can't see the entire screen in the picture. That has to be a non HD 4:3 TV.

Didn't I see that system in Stereophile magazine as one of the top ten in the UK?

I just realized my remote cost more than your TV.

No Sony TV? You really are completely full of sh!t. Do you own anything Sony besdies that rented PS3?

I have to post the link again as I haven't stopped laughing since the first time I saw it.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

You filthy slob.

"What? three power cords and a couple pairs of composite audio / video cables and a coax from the dish?"

4 power cords, 7 speaker cables, telephone cable(box need phone connection), 2x coax from the dish, 2xHDMI, 2xTOSLINK, RF to upstairs.

You lack of knowledge here is obvious.

Anyway, here ya go.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7044/ps3hdon6.jpg

One day you may be able to afford these..

Yes maybe one day I will be able to afford those considering my Pronto Professional with the serial extender costs more than your whole system.

By the way Mr. Expert, where is your center channel speaker? Let me guess. You are using the TV speakers as your center.

You are telling me that receiver switches HDMI? I don't think so. If you do have your system hooked up HDMI, they are going straight to the TV which carries audio and video.

The PS3 disables the optical / digital output once the HDMI is plugged in but you probably already know that.

Nice system. Do you have to perform twelve steps on 3 remotes to switch sources?

Who cares... Get over it.

LMAO.

The Blu-ray shills get ever more desperate, anxious to try and talk up a little 'momentum any ways they can.

All this is right now is another little meaningless PR gimmick (cos on-line sales/rental is always going to be a much bigger deal) and paid for sales novelties (end of isle spots etc).

Then we get treated to this insanity that the high def war rests on the extended LOTR movies now, oh really?

How deluded is that?

Actually I have all 3 of the LOTR movies in EE in SD DVD (and have had for almost 12mths) but I've yet to find the time (or inclination) to sit down to around 4hrs per movie (I suspect I'm far from alone).

The idea that the EE of LOTR is a mass-market 'clincher' for Blu-ray cos their version might include a few more bells and whistles is laughable.
Particluarly so in a mass-market where Dolby Pro-Logic is still seen as sophisticated (and by that it's often no more than a couple of basic & cheap satellite speakers and a centre speaker that came with the TV).

The idea that HD DVD has a (highly debateable) big 'problem' cos it can't stuff absolutely everything into 30gbs
(which is just hypocritical funny BS coming from the Blu-ray fanclub - cos even with 50gbs you have to make choices at what you'll include or not)
is patently absurd.
Although having said that I think we'll not see LOTR on HD DVD until the move to 17gb per layer and the 34gb dual layer discs appear.....at that stage it's problem solved anyways.

(Oh, and for those worried about it, it's only the 51gb triple layer disc that people aren't sure will work or not with gen 1 HD DVD players, 34gb DL discs will be just fine)

This so-called 'format war' will not be decided on the basis of the very very tiny number of over-sized movies out there.

Wake up.

they would wakeup hocus, but then the paychecks would stop coming

Yep, throw your HD DVD players away, as new 34GB/51GB are coming along, and yours won't be compatable with the new HD DVD discs.

Amazing, I can't see how HD DVD sell anything with the threat of obsolecence hanging over it head, let anone cofirmed hardware obsolecence from the manufacturer, and admission that 30GB is not enough..

Oh you mean kind of like Blo-Rays players becoming obsolete whenever BD-J comes out? ALL of the players out right now will soon be obsolete. Early hardware is always a little ruff around the edges, so whenever newer hardware comes out at those lower prices people will probably want to replace the ones they got anyway.

"throw your HD DVD players away, as new 34GB/51GB are coming along, and yours won't be compatable with the new HD DVD discs".

- You are a risible & hopeless liar.

Dual layer at 34gb (like single layer @ 17gb) will definitely be compatible with all existing HD DVD players (it is a fact, if you knew the subject & anything about the specs right from the 1st HD DVD drive/player).

There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that the movie business will ever move beyond DL HD DVD - especially if the bar is raised to 17gb/34gb.

In which case even if (cos it is still open to question.....triple layering was always part of the spec too right from the start) it is only gen 2 or 3 machines onwards & PC drives that use it, it will make no difference to anybody.

(.......even if we speculate on a stage further and guess that the movie industry might use TL 51gb occasionally, they'd make sure the disc was laid out & spread over the layers so as not to lose the gen 1 market .....but I guess such obvious logic is beyond a brain-dead shill/drone like yourself?)

"I can't see how HD DVD sell anything with the threat of obsolecence hanging over it head"

- The only thing hanging around anybodies' head is the constant state of cretinous stupidity resident in yours.

Put up or f*ck off with your dreary shilling, ignorance & lies.

"let anone cofirmed hardware obsolecence from the manufacturer"

- ......and we'd like some proof of this being so and the proof that this will happen.

"and admission that 30GB is not enough.."

- Well the instant you can prove the movie business has been saying so them I might listen.

But right now you are just full of sh*t as usual.

How about your precious Blu-ray releases where they think 25gb is enough, hmmmmm?

I cam across these last week & the stats are pretty interesting.

Total 25gb discs released so far: 169 (out of around 275 titles released to date)

111 - MPEG-2
23 - AVC
35 - VC-1

http://www.blu-raystats.com/index.php

- Now run away, again, you ignorant, pathetic & tragic shill/drone f*ckwit.

LOL SlapShot

Yeah but have you seen the piccy?

He's giving his money (or a 'friend'......or maybe it's his parents?) to satellite HD.

Sony will not be pleased, those dreamt of & yearned for paychecks (to such a loyal little soldier for Sony) might just have disappeared up the a$$ they came out of!

It gets worse for HD DVD.

Blu-Ray gets the better Lord Of The Rings Release. Extended Edition, 50GB, VC-1, Uncompressed Audio, BD-J features

http://www.avsforum.com/...63&page=1&pp=30

Looks like Paramount are going Blu-Ray due to space/bandwidth constraints of HD DVD also.

http://www.psu.com/Param...u-ray-News--a793-p0.php

Poor old HD DVD gets the cinema release, compressed audio, and no features. I wonder if they run out of disc space?

It has been debunked, Sony once again dumped a bunch of BS. HD will continue to be sold at Target.

Link?

Scroll down to see DaveBG's latest post, here is the quoted version:

Dave says:

"

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

You look a bit of an idiot now methinks.

Either:

a) I am not DaveBG (which you think I am), and I do own a PS3, so you are wrong about my identity.

b) Or I am DaveBG, and you are wrong about me not owning Blu-Ray.

Which is to be loser? "

Hollywood__ says:

BWAAAAAAAHAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wow, that dusty rack sure impressed me. I had you all wrong. Your system does blow mine away.

You just proved what a complete desperate fanboy you are.

A) It's actually your system, which is filthy and covered in fingerprints, which would be sad enough.

B) You went to a freinds house with a printout with my username to take a picture and post it here.

C) Either way, you are completely obsessed and possibly retarded.

You just made my day, thanks for the funny picture. Nobody in thier right mind would post a picture of that rubbish.

You are so obsessed with what I think of you that you went through all this trouble of printing my username and putting it next to someone's PS3.

In the meantime, I am laughing my a** off that I couldn't care less about what you think of me.

hey hollywood, just remembered to say welcome back from your time off, welcome back to our little family feud heh

Thanks Slap,

I was at a week long meeting in Miami, then I was supposed to go to L.A. but that got cancelled so I came back to Chicago for a few days before we left for a a long family vacation.

It feels good to be back belittling Dave and his imaginary made up freinds.

Interesting that there's a Sky HD box there, that's not very supportive of Blu-ray is it?

.....cos right now it's the growing numbers of punters buying into HD TV via satellite & cable that is probably disc based high def's biggest and most threatening competitor.

(I bet if it was a friend's place he was only allowed to do it if he promised to stop coming round evangelising about Sony/BD/PS3)

And what's interesting about SkyHD? It compliments my PS3 nicely. BBC are currently showing Heroes in HD for free, nice.

Hollywood is an embarrasing loser, becase HE can't afford decent kit, he assumes nobody else can either.

He even makes up details about vacations (which I assume he also can't afford), to give him cover stories for his duplicate indentities here.

Anyone else notice he laboured the point about going away and coming back? I wonder why that was.

I knew the comment about a fake vacation would ensue.

Hey Dave / Steve / Benjamin, I suppose you think I'm not married either.

You are just embarrassed from that dusty crusty photo of your supposed PS3 and now you want to make me look like the liar instead of yourself.

It's typical behavior for someone like yourself.

Dave,

If you have the means or the where with all, try and make your way to the CEDIA show in Denver, I'll be there all week as well. No wait. I'm making that up too.

You crack me up, that photo will never go away as I will use it to embarrass you from mow on.

Pretty soon you will lie and say you didn't upload it to imageshack too.

Pathetic broke fanboy with a possible incredibly dusty low end system. BWAAAHHAHAAH!

"what's interesting about SkyHD?"

- You just sh*t on Sony's cornflakes doing that.
You're funding one of the biggest threats to high def discs.

Watch those paychecks don't stop now.

The first reaction of someone who is embarrassed is to immediately s*** the attention to someone else like you did.

The difference between you and I is, you are obsessed with what everybody thinks of you and will go to any measure to appear genuine. We all see from you photo that you are what I have been calling you along.

I on the other hand could I care less what anybody thinks of me. If you think I'm full of sh!t than good for you.

I would never take the time to put a personal picture of myself or my AV system for all to see, especially one as crappy as yours just to prove something I said on a forum.

You must sit up all night and obsess over this nonsense. You are truly beneath me and everyone else in here who is not one of your duplicate usernames.

What does it feel like to suck so bad?

LOL Hollywood_

You know Dave says he's a 'Blu-ray insider' on those, er, 'special' BD fanzine forums......is that what they're now calling someone so laughably obsessed they google to all hours trying to be the 1st to repeat someone else's story as widely as they can?

Hocus,

We park our cars in the same garage my freind.

i find it interesting that people are so passionate about this issue. I think if there was a topic about bush backing bd in iraq the interweb would explode and people will start fighting in the streets over it.

I agree deminicus, but there is only one person with an obsession in here.

Another One Bites the Dust BJ's Wholesale goes Blu.

http://ps3.joystiq.com/2...-wholesale-goes-blu-ray/

2 in a week.

Where does this leave the poor old 360 with it's HD DVD drive?

http://img519.imageshack.../2029/churchsigngn0.jpg

http://img444.imageshack...44/213/tombstoneud8.jpg

Apparently, there were only 2 people at the funeral, a Microsoft representative, and a Toshiba representative, the Universal Pictures guy counldn't make it, he had a meeting with Blu-Ray execs.

You really don't have a life do you?

You just realized that? He has at least 3 usernames going in here right now.

Cry loser! I hope you get in the same place where hd dud is going...

And this proves it. God I love me.

'Must of hit a raw nerve'

It would be kind of difficult for one person to get in every living room...

You must be mistaking HD-DVD for Blo-Ray whenever HD-DVD brings in the sub $200 players.

Oh ffs, here comes the wishful and hypocritical BS......I though you guys said you could care less about Universal's movies?

'Universal to go BD any second now.....er, I mean any second NOW......um any second.....etc etc'

Yeah and there's an XBox 360 BD add-on following a moment or 2 later.

You BD shills/drones are truly deluded.

Bad day for HD DVD...

-Entertainment in Video Announces Blu-ray Support

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=329

-Tartan Video announce exclusive Blu-ray support

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=336

-Razor Digital Exclusively Blu-ray

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=337

-Questar Goes Blu-ray Exclusive

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=338

-Target to Sell Blu-ray Players Exclusively

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=349

-BJ's Goes Blu-ray Exclusive

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=357

-Optimum Announces Blu-ray Support

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=358

Woolworths go Blu-ray exclusive.

http://www.playthree.net...-exclusive-drop-hd.html

Add to this the Blockbuster announcement, and the already extensive hardware and studio support for Blu-Ray, It looks like anyone buying HD DVD now, is buying a ticket for the titanic's final voyage.

Wow, those links point to the same site DaveBG lives at, you wouldn't be the same guy now would you?

Like we didnt know.

Too bad HD-DVD is still superior to BD in every way except storage capacity. HD-DVD supporters also buy 8 times as many movies as the BD fanatics. Sad.

You still have no comment as to why BD movies are selling so sh1tty compared to HD-DVD with 5% of the player market share. Why? Because you don't have an answer, just fanboy links to your favorite hangout. It must suck to have BD and Sony be the most important thing in your life.

By the way moron, quit using first and last names for your fake usernames.

Sony has been busy researching stuff for you to send out again I see.

Problem is, I was on the HDDVD bandwagon until Target announced. That's pretty friggin big. Blockbuster was one thing, Target? That's huge.

Relax, it's only players, not movies.

Can you still get HD DVD movies?

Most of the stores I visit don't have very many..

http://img122.imageshack...p?image=image037qs3.jpg

http://img398.imageshack...hp?image=2vv115txu9.jpg

http://img385.imageshack...hp?image=2ivcgttte5.jpg

At best, it's 30% HD DVD, 70% Blu-Ray,
At worst, it't 10% HD DVD, 90% Blu-Ray.

Oh dear, stores dropping hardware HD DVD, stores stopping selling HD DVD media, stores stopping renting HD DVD.

Nice pics Dave. Get a life.

Too bad you don't own either player.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

You look a bit of an idiot now methinks.

Either:

a) I am not DaveBG (which you think I am), and I do own a PS3, so you are wrong about my identity.

b) Or I am DaveBG, and you are wrong about me not owning Blu-Ray.

Which is to be loser?

Who buys movies at the store when you can buy them on Amazon 25% less on average. Then agaain that wouldn't help your lies about no stock.

ROTFLMAO ...... Uhhhhhh Nice system. Ever heard of Swiffer dust pads Dave? If that is your system, I now know i was right all along. Which isn't unusual because I am an excellent profiler.

What did you do? Go to a freinds house and take a picture of a dirty glass rack with 2 components in it? That is so sad.

Your post stinks of desperation and you just embarrassed yourself even more with that sad a** picture.

You sucker! Blu-ray have not only 2x times capacity but also is better PQ and SQ (if you dont know what this means is Picture sn Sound quality)

What a freakin loser!

Here comes the Dave trademark exclamation points !!!!!!!!!!!

Your frustration is showing. You just can't hanlde the fact that I am completely and totally superior to you in every way.

Sorry, I have both and HD-DVD is better in PQ and SQ. You will never know because you are broke.

'Must of hit a raw nerve'

Lol looks like his POS3 is collecting dust just like everybody else's. Thats what happens whenever it never gets used. :0

Actually, if you must know, I recently got a new SkyHD reciever, and was in the process or sorting out the cables at the rear, as the SkyHD box has HDMI, so I can rip out the old SCARTs.

Still, it's funny to find you so much indenial.

Before you edited your post, you mentioned betting you farm on this not being my PS3. I am willing to take you up on your bet. I twould funny to see you homeless, and performing tricks for a living (then again, no different from now..).

You miss spelled his name on the paper. It's spelled DaveBG.

But anyway one clue that that it's not your setup is that it's not a Sony TV.

Woolworths in the UK.....wow, what a high street giant. Not.

This is all BS & PR whilst it means little and the market is so tiny.

Only the deluded Blu-ray shill/drone f*ckwits imagine that with all of high def only taking less than 1% of the total movie disc market that anything is fixed for eternity right now.

It's all just FUD you know.

If you know anything, you would know that Sony don't make Plasma's, only TFT's and they suck for games.

Panasonic make awesom plasmas.

One day, when you inherit your parents trailer, you might be able to afford one. Until them, you will have to make do with that 14in portable.

collecting dust, i can't believe it, what with all them games that are available to play endlessly on it /sarcasm :P

"Sony don't make Plasma's, only TFT's and they suck for games."

Let's cherish this moment, he actually said a Sony product sucks. That's amazing!

"One day, when you inherit your parents trailer, you might be able to afford one. Until them, you will have to make do with that 14in portable."

Too bad I own my own house and it looks like we both have the same kind of HDTV. I have to agree with you on Panasonic making 'awesom' plasmas. I can't believe I just said that. Hell must have frozen over and the devil must be serving ice cream.

That has been discussed here in the past and you have been proven wrong on that.

I'm cool with Sony paying Target for the end-of-aisle displays, that's a standard retail practice. I'm also cool with Target choosing on their own not to sell HD DVD products (including the HD DVD Xbox360 add-on) in the brick and mortar locations. I'm not cool however (and it doesn't seem like it should be legal) for Sony to pay Target not to sell HD DVD products. If that's actually happening that sounds pretty dirty to me, and I own a PS3.

Nobody is suggesting that Sony are paying Target. I doubt it very much, that is a Microsoft tactic. Microsoft are however paying Universal and Toshiba to stick out with HD DVD. I wonder how long before the shareholders have had enough?

http://www.firingsquad.c...icle.asp?searchid=15778

ROFL!!! Yes Sony would never do such a thing. /sarcasm

"Microsoft are however paying Universal and Toshiba to stick out with HD DVD."

I hate to burst your bubble, but $ony is probably doing the same thing. They aren't this angel of a company only a fanboy(you) could make them out to be. They are a large corporation and just like any other large corporation they will do ANYTHING that will help the bottom dollar.

"Nobody is suggesting that Sony are paying Target."

ROFL! Yah Target is just doing it as a kind gesture towards $ony. You just keep on living that fantasy Ben.

Dude, did you even read the article?

Let me quote, "Sony is paying a fee to have Blu-ray featured in end-of-aisle displays, and Target will not carry the $179 HD DVD add-on for the Xbox 360"

Pretty much sounds like Sony is paying Target.

"Dude, did you even read the article?"

He has trouble with that.

Isn't it in the article that Sony is at LEAST paying to be on end caps in the store? Again, typical fanboy stuff in here that Sony is a "for the good of the people" company and Microsoft is out to eat your first born. This is capitalism people, Sony does the same trash Microsoft does. It's called business.

ooohhhhh, Target will now cinch victory for them....

LOL

ok first the PS2 story today, and now this? is betanews TRYING to start a fanboy war?!

I was wondering that myself. They are sitting back watching the posts and laughing.

As you can see by the number of comments on articles like this, they are causing a large amount of traffic on their website. More traffic = more money from the advertisers.

Opps.

Seems Woolworths have also dumped HD-DVD

http://www.playthree.net/

They are still open? None in Ohio so I could care less.

They didn't dump it. Sony gave them money (that they don't have) to do that.

That is not possible people here say only Microsoft does that kind of thing.

And your proof?

The only people proping up formats is Toshiba paying Universal to stay HD DVD.

And again I say what ever you say there Ray.

"The only people proping up formats is Toshiba paying Universal to stay HD DVD."

Hello.... Ray.... did you read the article to which you posted?? "Sony is paying a fee to have Blu-ray featured in end-of-aisle displays..." I'm sure you'll find some way of explaining that away...

Ah nice site.

"Rockstar Games, developers of Grand Theft Auto IV have eschewed a platform neutral stance and recommended consumers choose the Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto IV over the PS3 version for the 'complete experience.'"

Paying for endcaps is standard retail practice. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

Not sure what thats got to do with Target dropping HD DVD, but i'll bite anyway.

That is a twisted quote from Rockstar developer. It's already acknowledged that 360 is getting episodic content (as it can't fit it all on DVD), and Microsoft paid $50,000,000 for it. Expect it to arrive on Xbox live mid 2008 for an additional $50..

Am I bothered? Nope.. Your quite welcome to your old Playstation exclusives. PS3 onwners get those PLUS new exclusives.

http://blog.us.playstati...se-exclusive-to-the-ps3/

It wont cost $50.

Also you can spin it how you like, but the fact of the matter is if you want the full GTA experience you aren't getting it on the POS3.

"and Microsoft paid $50,000,000 for it."

Good for them. Shows that they are willing to spend a little money to make sure the 360 owners get the absolute best experience.

I see MGS4 is coming to the 360..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFYmrz4XoP0

From what I hear, if you want the full experience, you need GTA4 on Blu-Ray, so you don't change discs when you drive between areas on the maps. I heard GTA4 is coming on 2 DVD's for the 360.

http://news.gameradar.co...xes-without-hard-drives/

6 Reasons why the 360 is in trouble:
http://gamepro.com/micro...s/features/124008.shtml

PS. How do you know it won't cost $50? How are Microsoft supposed to get back that $50,000,000 ?

2 disc rumor was debunked long ago. That article was from May. Nice try...Wait no it wasn't nvm.

"6 Reasons why the 360 is in trouble:
http://gamepro.com/micro...s/features/124008.shtml "

Was this article supposed to prove something?

"PS. How do you know it won't cost $50? How are Microsoft supposed to get back that $50,000,000 ?"

Umm because that would be incredibly stupid on their part, and there is no logic behind it perhaps? Nobody is going to pay $50 for an add on. They will get that $50,000,000 back from increased console sales, and then multi platform owners will buy GTA IV on 360 instead of POS3, thus giving them more sales.

While typically just smiling over these 360/P3 debates and having no intention to spend my time on verifying such claims - wouldn't such a move be considered unlawful anti-competitive behavior of exactly the kind Intel and MS were convicted of in various courts?

You truly are an idiot, you do realize competition is a GOOD thing, if PS3 loses or Xbox360 loses or Wii loses, the customer loses as well.

the reasons are only speculation on gamepro, they don't reflect the industry itself.

It says in this article that Sony paid Target to do that.

I'd wish Wollies would tell us how many Blu-ray discs they sold to be making this decision on.

.....or is it more paid for meaningless PR in the first part of this so-called 'format war' when discs sales are under 1% of the retail disc market and so it won't mean anything of real consequence.

....and the idea that Woolies are still a big player in the UK highstreet?!

LMAO.

Last night checked out Forza 2 and found a really cool live feature to watch ongoing races. You could even watch the best races so far. The $ony network is so great and free I have seen nothing like this on their POS network. I guess that is why it's free, because it suc&s.

Nice link Benji... that's a Playstation 3 shill-site. Keep trying fanboy.

I wonder if Target will be carring the new Denon Blo-ray player at the incredible low price of $2000.00?

If they did, who would bother buying the Sony player?

I wonder if the Denon will run Q-bert.

Why not, if expensive top of the range Blu-Ray recorders are your thing.

However, if you want a cheaper Blu-Ray player, you can get one for $499 (or $399 if Microsoft are to be believed).

Of course not, are you some kind of dribbling idiot?

I guess you don't know a joke when you see one.

From the looks of it, YOU'RE the joke.

whatever you say ben

Your right I prove you fanboys wrong more often then not and I am the joke try again.

ROFL! Pot calling the kettle black?

So you think a $2000 Dennon Blu-Ray player will run QBert??

I know this may be difficult for a person of your intelligence to understand Ben, but when he said that, it was a JOKE.

Only $499!!!! I am going to be one for every room right now!!! What a steal!!! /sarcasm

'He must of hit a raw nerve'

What's funny about a Dennon Blu-Ray player running QBert? I fail to see the joke.

It's ok Steve. He probably didn't expect any of the Sony cheerleaders to understand it anyway. I got it just fine.

Let me spell it out for you. He was making a joke about the POS3s pathetic lack of games. You with the program or does somebody need to dumb it down some more for you?

'Must of hit a raw nerve'

Your rather small mind must find most things hard to understsand, your posting prove that much.

Where did the source for Target not selling the HD-Xbox add on come from? They sell the add on now and in the Forbs story they will continue to.
Target sells 2 HD-players on their web site and claim they are not picking sides. Right now they are selling movies for both and only have the HD add on and the ps3 as HD players in their stores.
Are they truly going blue or is this a X-mas advertising deal?

Before the retarded jagoff shows up, this only refers to players and not movie titles. They will continue to sell HD-DVD and BD movies. For some reason they will not be selling HD-DVD plaers or even the 360 add-on.

Every time I go there I will ask for a 360 add-on or an HD-DVD set top player just to bust balls.

I knew this 2 days ago. Sounds like a strongarm tactic by Sony and the BD group.

Unfortunately, most Target customers don't care or have the money for next gen HD movie players let alone an HD set big enough to see the difference between upscaled standard DVD and HD-DVD / BD.

But you can bet that Wal-Mart will do the exact opposite, not that it will matter as thier customers don't give a sh!t about next gen movie players either.

When i want to get a new movie I don't go to Target since they have what like 8 titles for each format. I don't see them as a serious player in the high def market anyway.

"But you can bet that Wal-Mart will do the exact opposite, not that it will matter as thier customers don't give a sh!t about next gen movie players either."

That would probably be a better move on HD-DVD's side because I heard DVD's are one of Wal-Marts biggest sellers.

My Walmart has virtually no HD DVD stuff. It's 80% Blu-Ray.

Sorry you heard wrong.

whatever you say ben

One of the Walmart's near me is 100% blu-ray.

They have 2 blu-ray titles and 0 HD DVD.

Walmart will definetely be decideding this war!

Note to Steve, I said DVD, not HD-DVD is one of Wal-Marts biggest sellers.

Let may quote myself again for the handicapped:
"because I heard DVD's are one of Wal-Marts biggest sellers."

I just want to point out that when you said 100% Blu-Ray you made it sound a lot bigger than it was, what with the whole 2 titles they are carrying in HD format. Awesome.

I predict over 100 (trollish) comments on this article ... Oh, well ...

This only does two things - It gets product awareness out there and gives those buying one of these players another place to buy it.

Noone is going to walk into Target to buy a TV and also walk out with a $500 player.

Word.