Wii Continues to Shine as PS3 Sales Slide Further
By Ed Oswald | Published May 18, 2007, 3:13 PM
For the fourth month in a row, the Nintendo Wii outsold its competitors, even showing impressive strength at a time that is traditionally one of the slower periods for video game sales.
Nintendo sold some 360,000 units of the $249 USD next-generation console in April, up 39 percent from the previous month and its highest monthly sales total since January, retail data from research firm NPD Group shows.
Nintendo said that it is doing all it can to keep up with demand, and continues to manufacture consoles at a rapid clip. Some of the monthly increase could be due to better supplies at retail, although no reasoning was given.
On the flip side, Sony's PlayStation 3 again showed slowing sales, falling 37 percent to only 82,000 consoles sold during the month. A lack of first-party titles and compelling new games are being blamed for the console's weakness.
Microsoft's Xbox 360 was also off 13 percent for the month, selling 174,000 units, however the company said it saw evidence that the release of the HDMI-equipped Xbox 360 Elite helped to soften the typical seasonal decline.
Since January, sales have fallen only 17 percent for the Wii, while the Xbox 360 has fallen some 41 percent and the PS3 67 percent. The Wii's sales stability has allowed Nintendo to gain quickly on market leading Microsoft and pull further ahead of Sony.
Xbox 360 accounts for about 59 percent of the installed next-generation console user base, followed by 27 percent for Nintendo and 14 percent for Sony.
The best-selling games were all from Nintendo: DS titles "Pokemon Diamond" and "Pokemon Pearl" took the top spots, followed by "Super Paper Mario" and "Wii Play" for the Wii console.
Let's see. My playstation stopped working a few years ago. No worries, though, because I got a playstation 2 to replace it, and the ps2 is backward compatible. Now that doesn't work! Not only that, but it has gauged deep scratches in several of my disks. Sony doesn't seem to care.
My Super Nintendo is still going strong, purchased in 1991. Works like the day I bought it.
I won't be buying a playstation 3, ever. But I look forward to purchasing a Nintendo Wii!
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|Oh man, these console releated news are guaranteed entertainment, no exceptions.
I still dont understand the point of "defending" one console over another one...
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|Its easy to tell when you see all the folks who are running about scared, posting items complaining so vehemently about the other posts and which platform is 'really' winning.
Reality is reality. And all of your vitriolic posts denouncing the competition won't matter, especially as one company is so busy attempting to cut production costs and shuffling management while at least one other company is not only making lots of money, but their sales continue to be strong! Just look at the continuing PS2 sales and the Wii. The rest are superfluous, as much as you may find religious significance in them.
This is marketing. Its business. It is not an activity where you find a meaning for existence.
Like the world need a dedicated game console easily costing ~$600 before software! And some think it will take over the world!?!?!?!?! Yeah, right.
What is really laughable is the number of folks whose worldview is determined by what game console the view the world through!
If they were all only teens, that would be fine, as they can follow who wins American Idol all they choose!
But many of these folks masquerade as adults! This topic is like listening to a Trekkie convention debate current events! So make whatever point you like. Who is winning, who is not. Who is full of crap and who is enlightened.
In the end, we are all laughing AT you! You don't really matter!
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|Bravo.
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|I'm an "old" boy and since wii was released I was out from the modern console games era, is very pleasant to play wii because games are not just run and kill.
Cheers
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|i agree atleast nintendo continues to bring a console to the table the family can enjoy.
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|I own a PS3 which I bought in DEC 06. I can honestly say I wish I bought and XBOX360. Not only are there many more games (which is to be expected) but the games for the XBOX 360 have TONS more features, and options. Call of Duty 3 for PS3 has no voice chat, no new levels, and is no longer supported by the developer. XBOX360 version has voice chat(which is available on every game) continues to get multiplayer maps and is supported. Sorry to say it, but unless SONY gets off their a** then I'll be buying an XBOX. Sony just doesnt listen to it's customers
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|Come back and tell us if you still feel that, when the 360 versions of games are inferor due to the DVD drive and crappy CPU, or your on your 3rd replacement console in as many months...
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|He may be coming back and saying that after the crippled version of the game he likes that plays much better on an inferior DVD drive and crappy CPU than on the oh so superior PS3 that he doesn't like (get that, its NOT superior on your lauded PS3!!! Duh!!!) goes down the toilet as indications seem to suggest.
Listening to your rant is like listening to the Atari folks tell us how superior their platform is over Windows and the Mac!
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|Maybe I will be back, maybe if I do buy an XBOX it lasts 3 days then breaks, who knows. But I can guarantee you one thing. Those 3 days playing on the XBOX will be better than any days I've played on the PS3. Maybe eventually the PS3 will be better, but right now it's not even close. If you think otherwise, you obviously either don't really have a PS3, or you've never played COD3.
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|g**d*** YOU MOTHERFUKER!!!! CAN YOU STOP SAYING DUMBSH!TS!!!!!!!!!, MAN JUST LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, IF I KNEW WHERE U ARE LIVING YOU WOULD GET FUKED BECAUSE I JUST WANNA BEAT THE SH!T OUT OF YOU
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|Steve is a troll by day and a Sony cheerleader by night. He'll deny it, but we all know the truth. Your gig's up, Steve.
In all seriousness, though -- and trolls aside -- I feel your pain, GoD_tattoo. I personally don't have anything against PS3. I dislike Sony's attitude and the PS3's price tag, however. I just own a 360 at the moment, but I honestly hope PS3 gets a respectable library of games. And I'm sure they will in due time.
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|That's what i'm waiting for. Hopefully Sony will pull their head out from where it is, and start supporting the PS3. Hopefully Game makers will also start listening to their PS3 customers, but until they do, the PS3 isn't even close to the XBOX 360. I really think something drastic has to happen soon, or the PS3 will become the console that could have been.
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|http://www.hdtvuk.tv/high_def_gaming/
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|Yes, we all know you have your lips puckered on Sony's ass. You and Dave both live in the UK, so your opinion doesn't count.
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|You really need to read the articles you post, as it seems you post anything that says sony in it.
So if sony wins the format war they win the console market that makes NO sense whatsoever especially since hd dvd is for movies only for xbox360 PLUS microsoft can add a blu ray drive if blu ray does triumph but regardless it comes down to games and if sony isn't coming out with anything that justifies the cost for the machine its a moot point.
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|And you wonder WHY the entire world hates the Americans, and they are a global laughing stock...
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|On the other hand MS will just adapt to BluRay (despite what they say) if HDDVD dies a death. It's what they do!
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|Um so do I (come from the UK that is), don't spoil a decent set of comments with racist remarks like that, it should be beneath you.
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|...Even if in terms of market share its true!
Isn't PC great! ...React to how he said it, not what he said. Its a shame we can't see him and then you could discount his comments based upon what he is wearing!
Yet little is said when someone draws a cartoon and labels it with an arbitrary name and that somehow assumes an importance of mythic importance and it results in lots of folks being killed. But we wouldn't want to talk about that or show the cartoon on TV!
All of you can take your politically correct but increasingly irrelevant platform of choice that isn't selling as well as the Wii or the older gen PS2 and shove it.
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|WHO CARES ABOUT FUKING HIGH DEF GAMING YOU DUMBSH!T!!!!!!!
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|LOOK YOU FUKING TEA-DRINKER,YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS ABOUT US
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|Carl, seriousily switch to decaf man its ok just take a step away from the pc...
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|hahahaha lmao, it is just that this nigga its gettin in my nerves man, this nigga just talk smack and doesnt back it up, as my coach used to tell me "never talk smack if you cant show what you can do"
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|Now I have to buy a Wii. I can't comment on how great or crappy it is unless I own one.
Unlike other people who go on all day long cheerleading or bashing equipment they dont even own.
This wasn't directed towards you Dave. I was referring to someone else.......
Does anyone have real Wii sales to date stats? nexgenwars is full of s*** with their counters that "estimate" sales.
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|I agree with that. Nextgenwars and Vgchartz both are full of s***.
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|VGChartz is based on retailer sales data.
NetxGenwars is full of sh1te and based on rolling estimates,
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|Yah because I am sure they call all the retailers in the world and get the numbers.../sarcasm off
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|All Sony fanboys hate nexgenwars because they show MS with 11 million consoles sold. Not for the fact that all the numbers are wrong, including Sony's. And the Wii numbers are way off.
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|All I can say is "I Love My Wii", and play it 2 to 3 hours a day minimum. It has totally got my kid off watching TV. And most of the time we're playing the packaged game that came with it (Wii Sports). And in the coming months with more and more games coming out, it will get a LOT better. Existing games moving to the Wii platform are pretty cool also. If you haven't tried Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07, give it a whirl. Also, if you want to check out one game coming out around the November/December time frame, check out 'Super Mario Galaxy (http://wii.ign.com/objects/748/748588.html)'. This game is supposed to be the end all (at least of Mario Games). I know, Super Mario Sunshine sucked for the GameCube. . . . but this game will be a whole new experience. I've played all the consoles Nintendo has come out with since I was a kid. And this definately (by 10000000000000000%) beats them all. So if you haven't got one yet, go get one (or try to find one). It's definately worth the money. And my 2 cents about Sony, I have a PSP and a PS2, and I love them also (I play the PSP all the time, the PS2 is sitting idle since I got the Wii). But the PS3 (in my opionion) is overpriced. Yeah it might look good (actually the non video demos I've seen are okay), but I don't think it is worth the money at all. The engineers should have thought about that when they where designing it. Nintendo came out with a kick butt product that doesn't cost $600+
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|http://sonyprotectiongro...=viewid&post_id=161
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|ROFL!!! I like how you link to a website called "Protection Group." That is rather fitting for you. Also I like how you like to use numbers from past consoles to make the PS3 look like it is going to be a success. These numbers are completely irrelevant because the competition was not even close to as stiff back then as it is now.
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|Steve, you have now sunken to the depths of fanboy hell. That website you linked to explains everything. I'm sure that you and Dave are charter members.
You should edit that post before everyone sees it.
How the hell did you two idiots become so brainwashed anyways? I know it's boring on that side of the pond, Europe has taken it's toll on your poor souls.
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|One more thing Steve, I finished the projected sales data on that graph you desperately linked to.
http://img522.imageshack...893/fanboysteve2xv4.png
Oh, and I did some digging. The site is owned by Sony.
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|Weeeeeeee, ooops, Wiiiiiiiiii
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|Top 20 selling games for April (NPD)
1. Super Paper Mario (Wii) Nintendo
2. Wii Play w/ Remote (Wii) Nintendo
3. Guitar Hero 2 w/ Guitar (Xbox 360) Red Ocatane/Activision
4. Guitar Hero 2 w/ guitar (PS2) Red Octane/Activision
5. Spider-Man 3 (Xbox 360) Activision
6. Spider-Man 3 (PS2) Activision
7. God of War II (PS2) Sony
8. MLB '07: The Show (PS2) Sony
9. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii) Nintendo
10. Major League Baseball 2K7 (Xbox 360) 2K Games
11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (Xbox 360) Ubisoft
12. God of War (PS2) Sony
13. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (Wii) Electronic Arts
14. Gears of War (Xbox 360) Epic
15. F.E.A.R. (PS3) Vivendi
16. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PS2) Rockstar
17. TMNT (PS2) Ubisoft
18. Major League Baseball 2K7 (PS2) 2K Games
19. Wario Ware: Smooth Moves (Wii) Nintendo
So, let's see, in the top 20:
Wii: 5 titles
Xbox360: 6 titles
PS2: 7 Titles
PS3: ONE
ONE. ONE PS3 game breaks the top 20 sellers. If you're a game developer, what does that tell you?
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|That tells me why all of the PS3 exclusives are abandoning ship lol.
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|I'm supprised to see even one. FEAR is also on Xbox 360 and PC. I'm planning to get it for my 360.
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|It tells you that you are making crap games..
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|Says who?
Have a look here for PS3 Exclusives..
http://ps3mods.blogspot....rs-day-2007-videos.html
http://videogames.yahoo....e?eid=515288&page=0
There are more..
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|'you' as in Sony is making crap games? I don't get your post.
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|Says all the PS3 exclusives abandoning ship...
http://www.joystiq.com/2...3-loses-more-exclusives/
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6162235.html
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6162084.html
The list goes on and on...
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|LOL, I see the Wiitards are out in force..
All those links are from November 2006...
Nice Try.. I seem to recal several 360 exclusives now coming to PS3.. Along with the GTA IV "exclusive" content (PS3 has it's own exclusive, but different exclusive content).
Still I wouldn't worry, as GTA IV will suck on the 360, as developers are having a hard time getting it working on the 360, as they have to cater for the limitations of the 360 core with no HDD..
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|"Still I wouldn't worry, as GTA IV will suck on the 360"
Now your just blowing BS out your ass.
Also games like Ace Combat and 2 others whos names have escaped were was not from November. I know there is more and I am betting somebody who knows them will chime in with them before too long. I have seen them listed by someone on this site. I am betting you probably read them to, you just don't want to admit it. If you try try to deny it I will take the time to dig up some links and rub them in your face so I would just recommend doing one of your usual disappearing acts.
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|Does that make you a PS3tard you ****ing lemming.
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|I think Steve's running out of idea's so he's just cuming up with BS.
"Nice Try.."
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|You fanboys make me laugh, PS3 and 360 alike. Exclusives are becoming less and less important. As the Playstation and Xbox become more advanced that makes it more hard to code for both of them. So guess what that means, the games are more expensive to make which makes it cost prohibitive to release the thing for one console.
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|NIGGA PROVE IT!!!, DONT TALK SMACK JUST PROVE IT MOTHERFUKER
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|Not just that, but it's a game that's been available on the PC for, oh... how many months now? Oh, that's right... that's the game that won all kinds of "Best of 2005" awards.
Please... :)
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|Unrelated, but I thought it was funny that you mention the bit about the consoles becoming too advanced to code for. That ultimately led to the Sega Saturn's demise (awesome hardware specs for its time... a little too awesome). No one wanted to code for it... not even Sega's own development teams.
And yes, their (lack of) marketing didn't help either, but their marketing has always sucked, but that didn't stop the success of their other consoles.
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|I believe that would be PS thRee-tard. :)
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|Ah...Too all the people saying the PS3 is capable of SOO much better graphics suck on it.
http://www.mygen.com.au/...p;se_id=29&format=2
- Some pretty negative comments about the PS3 made by the devs. They state the fact that they are exclusive to the 360 allows them to do much more than if they were multiplatform, but they also state they doubt they would be able to achieve what they're doing with the game on the 360 on the ps3 even if it was ps3 exclusive.
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|Here's what I know:
For Sony to Catch Nintendo, they'd now have to outsell them almost 3:1 or better in almost every month. That's an incredible volume, I just don't see how they can do this.
Things at Sony have to be bleak. Put aside fanboi attitudes. Sony LOSES money on every console they sell. Nintendo MAKES MONEY on every console they sell. Nintendo now has an installed user base roughly SEVEN times Sony's worldwide.
So, if you're a game developer, and you've got a console that has a high sell through rate and an installed user base that is buying more titles. Game developers are flocking to the Wii, and it now has a fast growing planned release base, andd committed third parties. Why? because the games SELL well.
Of the top 10 selling titles on all platforms, Nintendo has SEVEN of them. (Pokemon Pearl & Diamond, Super Paper Mario, Wii Play, Legend of Zelda Wii, etc.)
And their titles are cheaper to manufacture and distribute, which means 3rd parties make more money.
See a trend?
Nintendo = super profitable
Sony = losing money like a siv
Who do you think is throwing parties in their offices?
Forget "Best" Hell, I owned a Sega Game Gear. Clearly better then the Nintendo Gameboy at the time. It was color. Game boy was not. It had fast moving games. Game boy did not. Did it win the market? Nope. Because there weren't enough titles or support.
You can argue Sony is better hardware.. but that's not paying off where it counts.. in the BANK
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|Sony. PS3. Pathetic.
It's nice to see the Wii doing so well. But when you look at the PS3 numbers, they're just flat out pathetic. The Xbox 360 is a year older than the PS3 and it still sold more than DOUBLE in April. But I'm sure the Sony supporters around here are still convinced that the PS3 is surely catching up to the Wii and 360. Maybe we can use some Sony style imaginary formula or equation to show that the less consoles you sell, the faster you're catching up.
There's one positive site to all this. Since Sony is losing money hand over fist, it's actually a good thing the PS3 is not selling so well. The less PS3 are sold, the less money Sony loses. It's a win-win.
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|The fact is, the PS3 is still selling better than the 360 in it's infancy, and the 360 sales were over the holiday period..
Come October - December is when the PS3 sales will really hot up, with some great games and a holiday season where the Wii and 360 are last years news...
PS3 is the Ferarri of the game consoles...
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Home/L9G5V4G2?page=1
The 360 is the Skoka on the back of a tow truck.. (breaking down all the time)
The Wii is the 1950's volkswagon Beetle, looks cool to own, but after all the hype is removed, it's very dated and ordinary..
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|Ray Dorset, you really crack me up. Using that idiotic analogy to compare consoles to sports cars. Didn't one of the Sony execs, in typical idiotic Sony fashion, do this exact same thing in France? I don't remember the cars, but I think he compared Ferrari (PS3) to a Peguot (Xbox360), forgetting the fact that the Peguot is a French made car! Talk about your corporate faux pas. Now we got the Sony cheerleaders reciting that same idiocy. Go figure.
You can try to project your imaginary PS3 sales numbers that are to come in October, December, or in the year 2047. It doesn't matter. What matters is NOW. Each month the Xbox360 is OUTSELLING the PS3, even though the 360 is a YEAR older than the PS3. I don't know how much more simpler I can put it.
Like I said before: "Maybe we can use some Sony style imaginary formula or equation to show that the less consoles you sell, the faster you're catching up."
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|LMAO!!! I like how you try to use last years numbers instead of the current numbers. Hey Ray guess what the 360 is outselling the PS3 2X RIGHT NOW IN THE PRESENT. Sony is running out of fanboys that are willing to pay $600 for a game console with no good games that aren't already on the much cheaper Xbox 360.
"Sony's PlayStation 3 again showed slowing sales, falling 37 percent to only 82,000 consoles sold during the month."
Yah it is a Ferarri alright. The thing about a Ferarri is nobody is willing to pay the ridiculous price for it. So yes your analogy would be correct Ray.
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|As usual, you missed the point.
Xbox360 Xmas 2006
Wii Xmas 2007
PS3 Xmas 2008
See the pattern?
How about these genius predictions for PS2 failure? Bet these posters feel a bit foolish now.. Nope, they are spreading the same doom prections for the PS3!!
http://boardsus.playstat...=psx2&thread.id=656
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/...00000091,2085731,00.htm
http://www.time.com/time...0,9171,998343-4,00.html
http://archives.cnn.com/...petitors.ps2/index.html
I do wonder if Kashin and Siryak are actually on Microsoft's payroll, by their posts, it certainly seems like they have been brainwashed...
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|You think they are the ones who are brainwashed? You're an idiot. Why don't you hug up to some Rootkit and Exploding batteries.
Your point has some screwed up logic. Which if you pulled your head out of Sony's a$$ you would realize that your PS3 sucks. I have tons of friends who loved the PS2. A decently priced Game Console with tons of games. Everything the PS3 is not.
The PS3 is a massive failure based off sales (Actual facts vs your future predictions).
Although, do you have any stock picks? You seem to like the losers and I could get something to short-sell.
Your the one with the genius predictions.. LOL.
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|They are losing A LOT more money this time on the console and its losing exclusives something that didnt happen with the ps2.
Developers (you know the people who make the games) state its a lot easier to program xbox then it is for playstation as the hardware is more advanced but is grossly underutilized again the same problem 3D0, Jaguar, Dreamcast, Turbographix etcetc had.
When the maker of the playstation jumps ship it doesn't matter how you spin it he realized he screwed up.
Unless Sony cuts the price and brings some games that people want it could be the next 3d0, its still early though so we'll have to see but its bad when the console has been out for only 6 months and sales have declined as badly as they have yet xbox and wii which have been out longer are still selling.
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|Not to mention losing chief executive officers. I don't recall that happening with the PS2. Oh yeah he resigned for "personal reasons". Right...
cough*bs*cough
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|ok, prove it
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|NIGGA JUST PROVE IT
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|Look, Sony has been in the market 6 months. Wii has been in the market six months. And Wii has DOUBLE the marketshare of Sony. How's that working out for you?
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|Nope just come in here to set all you BS spreaders straight. Also I don't think he missed the point. There isn't a point. I also like how you avoided my post above. You know I am right so instead of trying to prove me wrong you throw out your childish insults. Classic.
I am not here necessarily because I like Microsoft. It is more of I hate all the Sony fanboys like you.
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|Seriously, have you been smoking crack? PS3 was supposed to be the big item for Christmas 06, which is why it was released in time for the Christmas season. Now it's LIMPING badly in 2007. I mean, it's a good product, but it's not finding a market. People willing to pay $600+ for a gaming machine will just go get a PC.
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|Do you think the PS2 and original Playstation were cheap and had loads of games at launch?
Nope, things are no different this time around either. PS3 is taking it's time to get a foothold, there is no denying this.
BUT, it's by far the best console of this generation, it's got the hardware spec to last for years to come, and there are some great games coming out before this coming holiday season. If you don't believe me, go to GameTrailers and check out some of the SGD videos...
The 360 is already starting to show it's limits, with a underwhelming Halo3. Face it, Gears Of War is about as far as the 360 is going to go, it's limited by DVD size and graphics/cpu capabilities. The 360 core is also crippling it. Even Rockstar are having problems getting GTA IV working properly on the 360..
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|In your little country, perhaps it was launched before Xmas. The rest of the world has yet to see a Xmas PS3 sales period..
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|but they have seen the PS3, and everyone agreed, it laid an egg
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|put down the crack pipe
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|"PS3 is taking it's time to get a foothold, there is no denying this."
ROFL there is a great example of denial right there. It's taking it's time to get a foothold lol!!! You Sony people crack me up sometimes.
"the 360 is already starting to show it's limits"
http://www.mygen.com.au/...p;se_id=29&format=2
Ubisoft say Splinter Cell Conviction not achievable on PS3 at Current State
- Some pretty negative comments about the PS3 made by the devs. They state the fact that they are exclusive to the 360 allows them to do much more than if they were multiplatform, but they also state they doubt they would be able to achieve what they're doing with the game on the 360 on the ps3 even if it was ps3 exclusive.
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|You know that PS3 has only been out 2 months in most parts of thr world, dumba**...
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|Ok so it is fresh in many parts of the world. It must be flying off the shelves since a lot of the world is just now getting a chance to buy it....O wait...
"PS3 Sales Slide Further"
"82,000 consoles sold during the month"
Woops...
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|Hang it up Steve, the posts stink of desperation.
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|Well said, I feel the same way. I dont hate Sony, just the brainwashed lemmings like Dave and Steve.
I have one of thier (Sony's) DVD camcorders, it's freaking awsome. 36 inch HD CRT tube, again awsome. Actually I dont think there is a better CRT TV than Sony.
But when it comes to BD and the PS3, I feel HD-DVD is better and the 360 flat out has better games and a lot more of them.
Their car audio is probably the worst, most distorted garbage out there and their A/V receivers are crap too.
Fanboys are sad pathetic people with nothing better to do, which is actually kind of sad when you think about it.
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|Well said. I agree with everything up there including the comments about the products. The Sony does make an excellent HD CRT. Or are they still making them?
Anyway I am with you there. I don't hate Sony. Just the people who support them. I argue against Blu-Ray and the PS3 because I feel the other products are a better buy. PS3s biggest downfall is the fact that they can't match Xbox Live. I don't think this new virtual interface is going to put them there either. Also as much as the Sony fanboys don't want to admit it the 360 has the games this time around and it is highly unlikely that this is going to change. Then my absolute biggest gripe of all is I do not like their controller at all. It is too cramped for me. I can't stand the way they put both joysticks side by side. I had high hopes that they would change it for the better this round, but they decided to stick with the same ole controller(again). The reason I know that I despise the controller so much is because I have used the sh** out of it. I had a playstation and a plastation 2, which go figure had the exact same controller!
I also plan on picking up a Wii this summer for 2 reasons. 1. it's cheap and 2. it has an interesting controller design.
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|*laugh* dude, I'm not even referring to the worldwide market, just the US. And in the US, the Wii has a total of 2 weeks "lead" on the PS3. Does this justify that it's selling 4 TIMES as many units in April?
Here's the known facts:
In April, both Nintendo and Sony reported their company financial results to the Japanese economic exchange.
Nintendo had a 77% rise in profits. It noted 5.84 Million units sold through of the Wii in this year (07) and that the DS has now sold FORT MILLION units worldwide.
Nintendo through out another bombshell: 29 Million Wii licensed games sold.
Bloomberg and Wall Street Journal have raised the right point: the PS3 has deeper problems because even in markets that it's fairing well in, it's not as meaningful.
For example, it's good that it sold 5,000 more units then the XBOX in Germany, but with violent games banned in that country, ancillary rights aren't as valuable (and 15,000 units sold is a drop in the bucket compared to continual spenders in the US / Japan)
They raise the bigger issue: developing for the PS3 is far more expensive then developing for XBOX360 (which uses a semi-standard API, basically a modified DirectX from PC) or Wii (with it's far cheaper development kit). So, with game development more expensive and a significantly smaller installed base, and more expensive production costs, developers are having more issues putting out titles.
End result: at this point Wii and XBOX360 have far more titles announced for this year then PS3. For pete sake, Electronic Arts, feeling burned by PS3, announced a whole array of Wii products in order to get a go-ahead on their stock, and games that were supposed to be Sony exclusives now aren't.
Yes, it's only been out for 2 months in some parts of the world, let's say.. Germany. Tell me, how valuable are those 34,000 total sales to this point (which yes, outpaces many) in comparison to the fact that in the US, they sell more then double that, are still in last place.. and oh yeah, this is a country where third party titles like GTA/FEAR/etc. can be sold, when they can't even be imported there.
Nintendo and others have an easier path in places like Germany, where it's unlikely there will be a government ban for violence on say, Super Paper Mario...
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|Wow, I never thought of the United States (or Japan, where my sister lives) as "little countries" when they are the top two buying countries of game machines.
More then that, to say Christmas '06 was OK to judge the Wii, which had a total of 2 weeks headstart in the US over PS3 (both in November) is somewhat laughable.
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|Swish
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|Well said. I can see you are a master debater. :)
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|I still have my Panasonic 3D0 from '93... though when I look at it now, it certainly doesn't look like a $700 piece of hardware.
Life goes on. :)
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|little country?? motherfuker you must be crazy yo, just look at your fukin country man, you tea-drinker
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|the WII still sold out everywhere. Even the nunchuk.
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|Some people are so STOOPID...
Nintendo are limiting supplies of Wii on purpose, it creates a fake desirability and adds to the hype...
Pretty soon people will start falling off the hype train, and wonder what came over them, when the bought a rehashed Gamecube in a new box.
People are stoopid, that's why the iPod sells, it's a pretty crap player, with lousy sound quality, crap reliability and high price...
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|who cars if they are limiting supplies they still are SELLING them, you still cannot walk into any store and find a wii, ps3 is everywhere.
The fact Sony is losing exclusive after exclusive should tell you that the people who make games (because it is a game machine afterall) are jumping ship.
Yes the PS3 is far more powerful but remember Dreamcast? 3D0? Neo-Geo? Jaguar? All were far more powerful then what was available but because it was missing games and exclusives and high priced they all died.
Until Sony can either cut the price or give reason why someone should pay this amount for their system they are on a sinking ship no matter how you look at it.
The only reason I want a ps3 is for ff13 if it moves to xbox I'll be done with playstation.
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|g**d***IT PROVE IT MOTHERFUKER
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|ROFL!!! Denial that the Wii is a huge success tends to be a common symptom of being a Sony fangirl. Hello wake up and smell the roses the Wiis are selling like crazy just look at the sales numbers!!! I wonder about these Sony people sometime...Ok never mind all the time....It is like the lights are on, but nobodys home.
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|Don't get me wrong, I agree, he needs to prove it, but I thought your post was pretty funny. :)
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|but there's still alot of people out there who want a rebuilt gamecube because there tired of running around shooting people and just want to enjoy some friendly gaming with there kids
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|YOU FUKIN B!TCH @SS NIGGA, PROVE IT!!!!!!!! AND NOT WITH YOUR FUKIN PS3 WEBSITES, PROVE IT WITH GAMESPOT OR SOME s*** LIKE THAT
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|Return of the NINTENDO ERA, hooray..
Sony has really fallen over the past few years, their LCD's don't last as long, PS2 & PS3 are overpriced and just aren't worth the $$ and their laptops catch fire.
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|You should also mention that the PS3 sales are that pitiful by now that it's even outsold by the Game Boy Advance, a six year old vintage handheld!
http://www.gamesindustry...tent_page.php?aid=25104
Sales in Japan are even worse for the PS3. Here are the recent Japan sales numbers for "Golden Week" (four holidays close together) in Japan, which is traditionally going strong in sales as people have lots of free time:
DS: 285,192
Wii: 101,320
PSP: 35,172
PS2: 14,815
PS3: 12,974
360: 3,205
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|I love the GBA, it's great to leave in the bathroom to entertain me while I'm crapping.
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|lol ^^^^
How's that working out for you. =p
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|Who do you work for, Hollyweird? Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, etc? You're one of the most biased posters when it comes to subjects like consoles, media players, etc.
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|You got that right. There is no one more opinionated than me. The difference is I work with all of these products for a living, so I get to see which one is actually better based on experience.
All of my opinions are objectively based and not just fanboy crap because I decided I was in the HD-DVD or PS3 camp.
The difference between me and people like Steve, Dave, and a few others here are I have actually seen, tried, and own competing consoles and formats. There are differences and HD-DVD is clearly better when it comes to picture (which is all that matters).
I would like to see some wicked games come out for the PS3 that are head and shoulders better than the 360 versions because it almost seems like the PS3 doesnt lag at all where the 360 slows down like the old SNES console when there was too much going on at once.
It's just too bad that the hot topics are consoles and next generation DVD players. I would love to talk about things like home automation, touch panels, matrix switchers, movie / music servers etc....
I tried the AVS forum a couple times but I really dont like it over there. You cant mouth off without being called a troll and getting your IP banned.
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|Try somewhere like HomeTheaterForum.Com
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|Yeah but that's because............
Shis story is a fake...............
This is Microsoft "FUD" (Dave's hip word to sescribe god knows what)...........
That fat b**** will be in here in no time shooting off his big mouth. I'm sure he post some unrelated negative 360 article to make himself feel important.
The Wii is still more fun and a lot of people don't want ultra realistic RPG's that take six months to complete. Only people with no life can devote 10 hours a day to playing the same game until they finish it.
The Wii is definitely a family console that everyone can play, together. The 360 and PS3 are marketed to angry loaners with no social life after they get off work from the local 10 minute oil change place.
Tell me I'm wrong.
The PS3 has hit it's peak just like the 360 did, sales will be steady from now on but not at the rate from last November to mid January.
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|"The Wii is still more fun and a lot of people don't want ultra realistic RPG's that take six months to complete. Only people with no life can devote 10 hours a day to playing the same game until they finish it."
Dare I say... +1?! I absolutely feel that way. It seems every "next gen" release brings us much of the same, just with better graphics or maybe five times as long.
It - really - bores - me. So much so I just don't buy consoles anymore, and I rarely play PC games. I've done it all before, nothing changed.
The Wii ,though, it has a unique idea. A little bit "out there", a bit different. It seems family fun. And it just makes gameplay seem.. new.
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|FUD Fear Uncertainity Despair..
Microsoft are masters at FUD. Look up Microsoft halloween documents..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
Microsoft quote: "Document I also suggests that open source software "is long-term credible ... FUD tactics can not be used to combat it,"
Microsoft are also applying FUD tactics to the 360/PS3/Wii war, by releasing info by stealth means, and letting XBots in forums across the world spread it, as if it were the truth..
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|the king of fud calling others masters of fud
hmmmm, pot calling the kettle ?
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|No Joey you got that wrong. The Sony people especially including yourself are the biggest FUD spreaders there are. I only deal in facts. I don't go around spreading BS. I am the one correcting your BS. My point is easily proven by the countless post I have made correcting you with no reply back, because you know I am right.
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|Did Microsoft make you post this?
You spread Microsoft's FUD...
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|Lol oh look another one of the lead BSers. Show me a post that I have made that is FUD Steve. You can talk s*** lets see you back it up for once.
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|It takes one to know one.
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|I'm still waiting Steve.
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|YOU KNOW WHAT MOTHERFUKER, I GUESS THAT YOU ARE STEVE JOBS MAN, FUKING HATER
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|me too fukin tea-drinker
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|"PS3 Sales Slide Further"
Woops....
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|Considering the price gap, I think its getting ridiculous comparing the Wii to either the 360 or the PS3.
Its like comparing sales of the PSP to the 360 or something. The Wii has a completely different function and really targets a different audience. For the hardcore or serious gamer, 360 or PS3 is what they will have. They may own a Wii too, but it won't be their main rig.
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|But it shows what people desire.
Fun and games, not some expensive home entertainment unit that does everything but the dishes.
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|I agree. And the Wii doesn't really target a different audience, just a larger audience, which is why it is kicking ass. I can't wait to see these numbers a year from now once some big "A" games are released for all consoles. I think the Wii will still continue to dominate.
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|Agreed. To say that the Wii targets a different audience is absurd. Its targeted to gamers, first of all, not "casual" gamers or "hardcore" gamers, gamers at large. Once again Nintendo proves its the top dog on the gaming industry.
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|"he Wii has a completely different function and really targets a different audience."
I agree with the audience part, but function? Aren't they all gaming consoles?
I believe, if anything, it shows that more people are willing to buy consoles for their families that have the type of games the Wii features.
It is more family oriented and thus appeals to a larger base. The PS3 and 360 fill a more "hardcore" gaming niche which has a much smaller (but definitely more fervent) base.
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|"Aren't they all gaming consoles?"
Careful, Kutaragi would consider that an insult to his beloved "Entertainment PC".
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|You might be right - anyone who refers to their game console as a "rig" definitely wouldn't be caught with a Wii as their one-and-only. But to be honest I don't know anyone with a "rig." Overall, I think a Wii is priced right and appeals to a wide audience which is reflected nicely in the sales totals.
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