For some reason this fix knocked out my Diskeeper defrag program. everything else is cool. I had to remove Diskeeper as it was slowing down my boot and shutdown. Strange.

I didn't have any major problems, but it did change some of my settings. It turned some services on that I had disabled and turned others some that had enabled to manual or disabled. I just had to reset somethings. About 30 minutes work.

Hmm...no problems for me and the network of 400+ or so XP computers here at my job...

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."

This is why Windows XP looks like a 5 year old designed and a referbushed fisher price product. people to tooo stuip out there to use a computer.

everyone can trash talk windows, linux, apple or whatever. but it all comes down to choice. i use linux and winblows. my first choice of OS would be linux. the reason why i still used windoze is for the matter of fact i play a game which is my favorite game. that is all its ment for. everything else i do under linux/unix. for those who say that linux can not do alot of things heres a though why don't you download it (remmember now its F.R.E.E) and try it out and see what it can and not do.

DOS 6.22

C:\windows_sucks.exe

Did you make that up all by your self? What a big boy.

LOL, too bad you forgot that DOS 6.22 DOESN'T SUPPORT MORE THAN 8 CHARACTORS IN THE FILE NAME...that would be "C:\window~1.exe" :)

Hmm a patch broke something. I have but one this to say..... OH they dropped the ball!!

Windows 3.1 had no bugs. It knew all.

You forget it wasn't Y2K compliant... file manager showed documents modified 01\01\:0 for January 1 of 2000 (BTW the ':' is after the '9' in Windows' ASCII code list, so 2010 would likely be ';', 2020 would be '

Remind me again why people USE Windows? I mean. It's hard to use, and it breaks almost all the time... If it doesn't, then MS goes out of their way to make it break... Geeze...

i'm starting to think that maybe microsoft is releasing updates that cause problems so that they can keep releassing updates for there patch tuesday thing.

It's very possible...

"Remind me again why people USE Windows? I mean. It's hard to use..."

Can't argue with the rest, but hard to use? Show me an easier-to-use OS.

I can say the same thing about Linux and Apple. Both OSs are not useable. Linux, if you need something you need to go to root. Apple looks like a fisherprice piece of mess. I created my first bad program in OS X that removes all the files in the extension folder without asking for a password. Also created an easy script that will clear the admin password. Apple and linux are no better then Windows. But I trust windows much more then I would ever trust Apple or Linux.

You are absolutely correct school1012. No one spends as much money and time testing their software against the limitless combinations of hardware and software as Microsoft does.

Yes, Windows breaks, just like every other OS, but Microsoft's approach and low cost vs. value is unmatched in retail. Only open source can arguably give you a better value, but while free, it never quite meets all your needs and is in a perpetual beta state.

So true. Someone else whom has a brain. :)

"I can say the same thing about Linux and Apple. Both OSs are not useable."

Are you kidding? How are they not usable? Tell that to the millions of users that use it daily whether in a data center, or on their desks at home.

"Linux, if you need something you need to go to root."

You don't have admin rights on Windows? Surely you understand that it is safer to not run with admin rights all the time, right?

Don't you?

"Apple looks like a fisherprice piece of mess."

HAHAHAHA LUNA redefined fisher price.

"I created my first bad program in OS X that removes all the files in the extension folder without asking for a password."

I have a buddy that can bluescreen Windows with a single line of C code.

"Also created an easy script that will clear the admin password."

I have a script that will boot you off of a domain, change your password, and install or delete anything I want on a Win32 system and then shut it down, reboot it, or whatever else I decide to do to it. Again, what's your point?

"Apple and linux are no better then Windows."

Nor are they any worse.

"But I trust windows much more then I would ever trust Apple or Linux."

Why? Why is it that you are so hooked on microsoft's dogfood that you would starve if something caused them to shut down?

Seriously, you may have a problem.

Is that why we have yet another article about yet another problem with it?

Surely they would have tested this patch with environments that are actually locked down with proper permissions.

I can't imagine a terminal server that didn't break with this patch, unless it wasn't secure.

So, because it's OSS it's beta? How in the world did you manage to come up with that?

The OS on my Phone is easier. :-P

Wait, no it isn't. :-(

HAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh man. that was funny. =p

"Remind me again why people USE Windows? I mean. It's hard to use, and it breaks almost all the time"

The PC Rat uses Windows with no problems.

The Computer Rodent

I have been running Windows XP Pro with admin rights for the last 4 years. And I have don't recieved one virus or spyware on my machine. My drive is encripted so if you do reset the password You will not get the data.

Apparently you didn't comprehend my comment.

Why people use Windows? hmm that's an easy question. It' definately not hard to use. When they buy a computer they are forcefed it. Most are led to believe they don't have a choice. In my opinion Microsoft has made computing so easy that most people are affraid of anything that gives the slightest bit of a challenge so if they do realize they have a choice they are affraid to explore those options.
As for myself I enjoy a challenge every now and then, while Microsoft is too busy dumbing everything down.

Agreed.

"I have been running Windows XP Pro with admin rights for the last 4 years. And I have don't recieved one virus or spyware on my machine."

I suspect that it's time you took a good hard look at your anti-spyware and antivirus programs - or is your computer not connected to the Internet? There are a lot of alleged anti-malware programs out there (some from "big name" companies") that fail to detect a large percentage of common virii and spyware threats, not to mention trojans. 4 years with nothing detected tells me that your detection is probably not working.

I got this feeling you are using Windows sucka'...

If his network is not a federal, financial, or school network, it usually isn't specifically targeted by hackers that much. Also a good firewall (not a 'firewall program', the oximoron which software vendors conjured up out of their As*es and rewrote the dictionary definition for, we're talking actual physical firewalls, the ones that stop traffic on the Physical layer of OSI and not at the Application layer on the opposite end of the spectrum) combined with disabling of a few windows services and you're set for life. Well--as long as Windows has all the critical updates (lol), but I digress.

I have run MSAS, Spybot, Ad-aware, hijackthis, and AdwareAway. All found nothing.

I also ran NAV05, AVG Anti Virus, and Trend Micro. All of which found nothing.
All programs are fullly updated and did a full scan with all of them. I am connect to the internet with broadband, and use IE. I have visted several websites that I was told would give me spyware and viruses. And I still did not get infected. I use Outlook 2003 as my email client(with 30 or so email address linked with it) and use Outlook Express as my newsgroup client. Can't tell you why I don't get anything but I don't.

Oops.

To MS's credit they do have a fix for it a week afterward. That's probably some sort of record for them.

well then show me a command on how you can uninstall a linux OS from you computer besides format C: or any kind of repartitioning or format command

sudo rm -rf /

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda

### Edited out the for statement, realized it wouldn't work. Well, it would kill the bootsector but it was easily recoverable. LOL

ummmm..

Geee, what a shock.....

Need proof that Windows is a virus? Try unistalling it.

That's bad logic.

What OS has an uninstall method? It doesn't make sense because the easiest way is to just format the harddrive. Windows WILL let you do that - even while it is running (in older versions).

You haven't heard of fdisk? ^_^

Windows XP won't let you fdisk the drive that it's currently running on. Older versions will though.

That is nor true. YOu can not format or fdisk a partion that is in use, whether linux or OSX.

You can do all sorts of things to partitions that are in use on Linux.

try this..

sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1

bye bye Linux

Now that would be a bad thing to do. i could understand why someone would want to do something like this in Windows though.

I said WINDOWS.

And yes you can in Linux.

Don't know about OSX because I've never wasted my time trying to use it. As soon as they get that Mactel version out, I might give it a try.

Or windwos sorry. I just tried to fdisk a win98 machine. Fdisk stated the drive is in use. YOu will need to reboot and run fdisk again.

hmmm... weird. I didn't think it had been that long ago, but I remember doing that on a Windows machine. I can't remember the OS. I guess Windows 95? I dunno. Or maybe I'm wrong altogether. I could have sworn it was possible though. Oh well.

It's not like it was an important point anyway. I just made myself look like an idiot by adding unnecessary info =p

Where do all these bad Windows jokes come from? This one is almost as bad as some of those Redneck jokes...

you can kill windows in windows w/ a program called KillDisk, it formats your system in windows, gives a nice pretty bsod then reboots to a completely formatted hard disk =)

Go figure... fix one thing, break another.
Go to Linux before it deletes you! =P

Bad thing is not so much that the patch broke stuff, but that they delayed releasing these things last month due to "quality issuse". Yet they still managed to break something....amazing isn't it.

Yeah, I wonder if it was the same patch.

My guess is that it wasn't though. Still, that is funny.

It is truely ironic that's for sure. Then again MS is the king of irony.

True indeed. Leave it to MS to release something that was "quality assured" and end up f***ing up your system.

Forgot to mention, Microsoft should close up, cause the only thing they made worthwhile was 3.1, and that wasn't an OS but a shell.

Where did you learn so much about computers?

Common knowledge my friend.

I used every version of Winblows and so far 3.1's the most stable.

"I used every version of Winblows and so far 3.1's the most stable"

I hope that is sarcasm.

Have you ever used Windows Server 2003? That is the most stable OS I have EVER used - and I have used a lot (I am old). It's more stable than my toy Mac, more stable than XP SP2, more stable than my old Atari 800XL, and even more stable than OS/2.

MS is building Vista on the same platform as the Windows Server line. This should lead to improved stability, security, and performance.

The new version of Windows Server is called R2 and it is beta now and will ship in just a few months. (Way before Vista). I'm sure that R2 and Vista are being developed side-by-side and both products will be the best of breed to date. (WE WILL STILL HAVE PATCHES THOUGH- It's a way of life regardless of what platofrm you are on)

well I personally can't say i've used every version of windows but i've used quite a few. 3.1, 95, 98 and SE, ME, 2000 Pro, XP home and Pro. I haven't used any of the server OS before but from the ones i have used i would have to say IMO that 2000 and XP Pro have been the best 2 windows OS ever. Although as of late I've been using Suse Linux and so far am very pleased with it.