When I tried to install it via Windows Update Express install, the install program would open then cancel by itself! I cannot install it from Windows Update- i dont want to update it from the full download; too long... arrgh what should i do?

Order the CD.

I see that Microsoft has only released English, French and German versions of Windows XP Service Pack 1... What about other languages? Does anybody know when (if ever!) Microsoft will release them?? (I'm looking for Spanish version, but I can imagine lots of people looking for other languages...)

Thanx!

http://download.microsof...WXP/ES/xpsp1_es_x86.exe

should be the link to the spanish download

James Wheat
http://belprecomputerwizard.com

Thanks a lot James!

In fact, I already tried this link some days ago, when I realized that the link for the english version was http://download.microsof.../EN-US/xpsp1_en_x86.exe. A little modification of it gave me the URL that was supposed to point to the Spanish version... but it didn't work! I hadn't tried it again. Now it works... What still doesn't work is the "official" link from the Microsoft home page (still only English, French and German are available), nor Windows Update...

Thanks again ;)

Toni

They've made a great stable OS even better. I experienced no problems at all. Sweet. I've been repairing computers and os's since 1985. Microsoft has never had a decent operating system until XP Pro. It rocks. It took them long enough but they have arrived. It can only get better.
All you whiners get a life. If you know of a better operating system go use it.

Win2k isn't less stable. It just doesn't have that advanced compatibility feature and lacks ,a little bit strange GUI appearance (which I turned off on my XP, by choosing Windows Classical theme):-) . I've used 2000 as home user as well as software developer at work since its release days until about a month ago. 2k is a great OS. XP is too.
:-D

Win2k SP2 adds the compatibility mode into the OS.

2k's compatibility mode doesn't let to run to as many apps as XP does.

this is nonsense. XP compatibility feature is a joke. at least 1 mio. programmes don't work on xp, I tried to get them working in compatibility mode, no go. the only programme I managed to get working in compatibility mode was the game realMyst, but only if comp mode was set to win2000, if set to win98, the game started, but was slow like hell. apart from this game all other programmes, which didn't work in normal mode, wouldn't work in compatibility mode either.

Nobody said XP's compatibility mode works with every app.

WELL I GOT THE DOWNLOADER AND THEN IT STARTED TO DO ITS THING THEN IT STOPPED AND WOULD TELL ME CANT REACH SERVER NOW WHEN I GOT BACK TO DO IT AGAIN IT WONT DO THE DAMN UPDATE OH WHAT FUN AND I AM ON DIAL UP ITHINK I WILL PASS ON SP1 OH AND I HAVE PAID FOR ALL OF THE WIN OS,S I HAVE GOT ALLMOST A 1000 BUCKS IN THEM

try this link out....fast download....

http://premierdownload.m.../EN-US/xpsp1_en_x86.exe

Hey HELLSGATE666, It may be a good idea for you to complete the download and get SP1 installed as soon as possible. It may help fix your stuck caps lock ;-)

And perhaps add a bit of punctuation.

droll, if foldrol.
Preinstallation activity: Did chkdsk \r. No problem except took long time to install SP1.

My result of SP1 installation.
Cleaner System, including cleaner ADD/Remove panel with all the hotfixes entries gone.
WMP plays Avi movies with 40% less usage of CPU. How did this happen? No idea. Had the latest video driver too. puzzled but pleased. No noticeable errors. Still have that DVD and CDRW drive tendency to disappear after few burns but it comes right back after restarting computer (So far no fiddling with device manager nor regedit).

Thumbs up to microsoft for delivering their better efforts in SP1.

forgot to mention something in the post below: MS adds at least 1 mio of advertisement bookmarks, like bookmark to hotmail. so annoying. had to delete all those bookmarks. one thing was funny, though: I clicked on one of those links and was redirected to a page saying "the page you were searching is not there". I wasn't searching anything at all, just used their bookmark. this just once again shows how
a) stupid MS is - can't even supply proper links.
b) how obtrusive they are - typical US capitalism - to get the customers at any price, even if you get on their nerves with stupid advertisement

If you don't like "typical US capitalism" then stop using US products. Remove Windows, Remove OS 10.2 (Apple), and any flavor of Unix (Berkley CA). Capitalism in any country my nature it to sell you crap. To sell you something requires advertising. OK, now that I vented... I agree I hate with AOL put an icon on the desktop, one by the clock, one in the start menu, one in my favorites and so on. I hate that :)

The problem with your statement is that we already paid and arm and a leg for the software in the first place. We don't need more of Microsofts adware, and spyware on top of it.

If Linux could ever get their act together and make their software more user friendly and support hardware like Windows does, it would kill Microsoft.

I do agree with you but on that same note, when I bought my TV, I get ads. When I pay for directTV, I get ads. When I go to the movies, I get ads. When I drive down the street that my tax dollars are paying for, I get ads. It's a fact of life. Bad or Good.

As for Linux (which I like myself), they well never get there act together to replace Windows. The fact is, that most people just want to use computers and have tons of software choices (Windows does this). On a different note though Linux is just an unstable as any GUI OS. Linus in text command mode only is stable as hell but so is DOS. One you add on Video drivers, OpenGL, Sound drivers, USB drivers, Scanner, Digital Camera, Joy Stick. They all have issues.

Also note at Activewin.com the new 2 month internet monitoring shows Windows at 97% of the market, 1.7 for Mac and less for Linux. This number are from memory and may be off but not by much.

Personnally I hope that Windows, Linux, BeOS and Mac 10.2 all get replace by something better. I'd hate to think that any of these that are sooooo close are the best of the best.

I'm assuming you're being facetious. I'm not sure how Linux (whatever entity you seem to be referring to it as) is supposed to grow legs, or mind reading capabilities for that matter, and magically starting coding hardware support. It's up to the vendors to either a) write the drivers for the operating system; or b) open up and give some information to those who do write drivers for Linux (the operating system), because the programmers can't exactly stare at some piece of hardware and begin to visualize and invent a driver in their mind. You have to know how the hardware was built, how it does what it does. The hardware vendors are the ones you should be b****ing at.

I see none of these so called ads that you speak of... and your claim that there is spyware is laughable.

OOOhh... and you mean Windows (its all dlls and exes)never send anything, any bit and byte to MS (or any of its subsidiary)? That's laughable. Period.

What exactly makes you think that you are so important that Microsoft is going to hire hundreds of thousands of people to sift through all that data they get from you....

And if they were spying on you, it would be ALL over the place, there's nothing MS can do to hide something like that, wheather you want to believe it or not.

I installed it on the two pc's I have at home...both now want to be reactivated...both the Pro and Home are legal...why do they try to piss off the legit customers...I know several people with illegal copies that had no problems...because I'm hispanic can I sue for violating my civial rights...

Probably because those friends of yours with the pirated copies are the problem. You think it would really be that inconcievable for their little key number generator to randomly come up with legit numbers being used by those that bought the product? I don't. Then those people that shelled out $2-300 for their copy are inconvienced.

And as far as that being a vioation of your civil rights; what a crock of s***. Last time I checked, no piece of softare was ever asked what race or ethnicity it's user is. You really need to pull your head out before you making ignorant comments in a public forum.

man, all this gets on my nerves.. first of all, nobody cares about us germans, everywhere just the link to the english version of the sp1 is posted, not the german. took me an hour to find the link.
second, why did I need the direct download link? because MS servers are slow like hell - my download was 50 mbs, and it said 2 hours left, what the hell?! MS limits the download speed! but I finally found the link and downloaded the whole 130 mbs file in 15 min. using DAP. take this, MS! what am I, some freaking sheep moving slowly and inevitably towards the concentration camp gas chamber? Just imagine all those idiots sitting before their computers waiting for the slow download to finish! not with me, buddies! although I did lose 1 hour searching for the MS direct download link to the german version, did I mention this already? ok.
now for the contents: this stupid pack destroys all custom settings:
-all multimedia files back to media player 8
-all image files to that freaking fax viewer some kiddies have written while on speed and sold to MS
-old registry values I have long ago deleted, like that freaking fax and image viewer context menu entries back
-autostart cdrom/dvd whatever settings back to default
that freaking registry destruction bug is still there. just half an hour after the install of SP1 pc crashed and wouldn't start any longer - security from system32\config folder destroyed. at least it wasn't one of the important files, like the software file, which holds all reg info on software. I could restore the file from the repair folder, because my system restore was off. and why? because that freaking SP1 wanted to unpack the files to my e:\ partition, which has no space left at all! why not to c:\ partition, MS suckers? ok, so I switched off restore to get some space back, boom! pc crashed and I had to use an old security file because of MS stupidity. result: IIS wouldn't work any longer and I had to search their stupid pages to find a solution. at least I did find one, even if it took some time.
so what I am talking about is not so much about the SP1, but about the overall stupidity of MS. like, you know, you can never save the folder location, and it never opens full size, has been so since win95 and never fixed. or that you can never save the way images are shown, I say thumbnails and next day they are shown as symbols again. instead in other folders normal files, not images, are always shown as thumbnails. MS is either crazy or stupid. as if there were a difference between the two terms.
to get back to SP1: don't worry, it won't destroy anything. don't make backup (to uninstall SP1), it costs much space. it's just - this pack is annoying, but then again, everything sucks with Microsoft.

It doesn't stike you as wrong to compare downloading a Service Pack to the killing of millions of innocent people?? Chill out, it's not that bad...

The majority of this is due to your _own_ stupidity, not MS's. While I hate sticking up for them, you could have prevented the majority of this by actually knowing what you are doing. And none of your "problems" are even that bad. If you can't fix those settings in less than a few minutes, you've got more problems than SP1...

interesting, how you support MS. you must be the only one on the whole Internet who speaks in their favour. as far as my stupidity is concerned...one doesn't need to be intelligent to use a computer. but if you are speaking about my knowledge of windows, I am indeed experienced. and the destruction of the security file is due to MS stupidity, not mine. if it were the stupidity of the users, millions of people would have to be called stupid, because the corruption of the registry is a known bug on xp and this problem has been reported by millions of people on many different forums

^ It's Godwin's Law.

Odd, I've never heard of this registry corruption error, nor been plagued by it. Sounds like a case of PEBKAC to me.

Oh...good thing a person doesn't need to be intelligent to use a computer, otherwise we wouldn't be graced by your little gems of knowledge on this forum.

I'm Sorry, but WRFan, It's people like you that make me ashamed to be German....What is all this about "Concentration Camp, Gas Chamber." Germany is not on the back burner here. You have to understand, it takes time to convert a Service Pack to a foreign language and post the link. Just remember, the product you are using is stamped "Made In U.S.A". Don't complain because germany doesnt get the update before the originating country does. You paid for an American Product, You are using an American Product. Don't gripe because Germany doesn't have their own Monopoly for you to support. So go shove a bratwurst in it and call it a day.....

I only had one problem with the SP1 install.....My sound stoped working.....I had to uninstall the SB Audigy drivers and reinstall them. Thats the new drivers btw. Other than that it works great.

I've installed it, but the only I have noticed is that my IE6 actually works somewhat properly now. Even though I don't even use it :)

I had no problems with installation either.

Well i had a lot of trouble.
1) Clean install had BSOD on my gf4. I had to remove it and put the gf1 in order to install
2) After the first reboot, i had to put back the gf4 back, install wouldn't work
3) After install my bios got screwed and ALL Os' could not boot after rebooting. In order to change os i had to turn off the machine before booting the other. I had to restore the bios from defaults settings and i am not sure if it got fixed (seems so)

After all that, xp ran fine... for now...

I installed it, now what? How does it work?

What do you mean "How does it work?". It is a service pack, you install it and that is it!

LOL

well, make sure you put it on a cd before installing - did a download and cleaned my clock. Didn't recognize plug and play (any devices) I have been working with for years in XP. Licensed version professional for those that care. Best advice - back up you system - it will be easier to restore. After doing clean install of XP since I no longer had anything but non-bootable crap (so much for system restore) - the service pack installed just fine - reinstalled all drivers that were plug and play - they still are not. Would be interesting to see if this is the licensed service pack or a fun and games beta? Think next time I will get something from the MS XP site not here.

Wyojake says: "Didn't recognize plug and play (any devices) I have been working with for years in XP. Licensed version professional for those that care."

Anyone else see the problem in the above statement? XP "Licensed version professional" has been out less than a year now. So how excatly is it that he's claiming to have been using it with those devices "for years in XP"

wet through all the beta crap prior to the release, dear. Did the home edition - did the professional. You know NT has been around a long time - wake up to the contortion called XP which is a 95/NT clone anyhow. Plug and Play was Plug and Play until now. Seems you have nothing to offer but nit picking.

"wet through all the beta crap prior to the release, dear."

Well, that's not XP "Licensed version professional" like you said now is it?

"You know NT has been around a long time - wake up to the contortion called XP which is a 95/NT clone anyhow."

Your claims were specific to XP, not to NT or 95.

"Plug and Play was Plug and Play until now."

So what? You didn't say "Plug and play has been working for years", you said it has been working in XP for years.

"Seems you have nothing to offer but nit picking."

Just showing that you're full of crap and that the rest of your statements should probably be taken with a big grain of salt.

I wish fewt were here to put you in your place

yeah.. where is that god-damned FEWT, i miss that guy already, this forum isn't the same without him :D

Make sure to Disable your virus scan before you install.

Works fine for me also with one exception....
I use BeckyMail and it disabled my HTML compose option. Anyone have a suggestion?

This is getting old. If you have an illegal copy of Windows XP and you are stupid enough to use one of the two keys that has been killed off, you deserve what you get.

If you have an illegal copy and you're using another key, you're not going to get a rude awakening. Even if you do, go out and buy the darn thing then, or install Windows 2000 (which is more stable anyway).

he is right XP does suck big time.....i tried xp for a while and it was workin fine for the first few weeks and then i upgraded my motherboard,proccessor, and memory and the damn thing just crashed. i though windows xp is supposed to take those hardware changes????? yeah that was a total BS. with the upcomming next generation of windows i think i will change to linux cause microsoft just sucks in general.....mr bill now wants power over the computer world and as far as im concerned i will not be a windows user.

No OS that I've heard of can withstand a MOTHERBOARD change without a RE-INSTALL.

Apparently you run around with your ears plugged and your eyes closed. I've run Windows and Linux as a dual-boot system for about 6 years now. I've upgraded every piece of hardware in my computer at one point or another. Most often I've re-installed Windows because I ran into too many little things that a clean install would fix. It was all just too shakey. I've never had to re-install Linux. The only time you will probably hit a snag is if you switch between Athlon and Intel processors, since there are separately optimized kernels for each now.

That is absolutely not true. Windows NT 4.0 took several mobo swaps from me without re-installing :-D In fact I never even had to do anything, it just came up without incident.

Win2K will do it too, but it requires more arm-twisting.

I haven't tested this, btw, but I would imagine you could install the Athlon or i686 kernel prior to an expected switch and then boot the appropriate kernel. Or maybe not. YMMV.

I think XP would have handled the hardware if you would have installed the software using the new motherboard or you should have gone into device manager and deleted everything and then installed the new motherboard.. I think the better idea would be for you to go to Linux... complain to those guys for a while

I would agree to a point, I think NT 4 can withstand the motherboard swap but then again NT 4 does not support as many things as Win2k OR XP no usb and all the devices that the newer motherboards are coming with..

I can honestly only testify to the OSes I've toyed with or used, which are Win95-ME, Win2K and XP. But it's kinda hard to switch from a standard PC to an ACPI PC if this is the case. Besides, without updating the HAL, the system may become unstable.

And I'm talking about a motherboard change, not a little thing. Besides, you just said you needed a clean install. Most likely from not re-installing Windows with such a relatively drastic change.
I cannot testify for Linux, I've tired it, and I'm no expert, not even an amateur. But I don't see how an OS that's configured around one board and chipset, to switch without a hitch unless it was prepared to do so. Don't blast me for being wrong either, I'm admitting I don't know jack about Linux (which does have some cool stuff).

Right. I was talking about motherboard upgrades. I've upgraded the motherboard three in this machine and the processor 3 or 4 times. The first was Intel, the 2nd and 3rd were for AMD w/ the VIA chipset. I usually ended up re-installing Windows (Win2k currently). I'm sure with a little fooling around, it can be done much simpler than I have. However, I hate little gremlins in my computer and don't have the patience to fool with Windows itself for various reasons to get everything smoothed out. I spend less time re-installing. Plus it's a fresh clean slate. Though I've used Linux for about 6-ish years now, I still would hardly call myself an expert. It started out more of a hobby for me, but I use it more and more these days. I can't give you the exacts as to why I've had fewer problems with it, I just have. I'm currently using Red Hat and have been for the last 4 years or so. I started out using Slackware and got tired of the emotional abuse that thing put me through 6 years ago. :-)

Win9x has no problems with mobo changes....

Hell, I've taken the harddrive out of one box and put it into a completely different box, and it works fine.

Wouldn't happen to have an old Slot 1 mobo laying around? ;)

I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not, but actually I do. :) I got one to replace the 486DX4 100 I had that I used for a PII-233, which I then got a card to attach a socket Celeron 500 to it.

Maybe interested in getting rid of it, or selling it? cwk82 at optonline.net

What a moronic comment. Windows 95, Windows 98 (1+2), Windows ME, Windows NT4, Linux Mandrake 8.2, Suse Linux....

ALL will except a motherboard swap without reinstalling the OS.

So you haven't heard of Linux?
I changed my motherboard and didn't even need to recompile the kernel, i went from the a7vpro to the kt333 one.

Even windows kind of liked it, but after changing mobos i could not power off the whole machine from shutting down. A reinstall fixed it.

How can you be so ignorant to think that you can install a new motherboard and related hardware and just connect your old hard drive and everything work properly? Windows XP is not magic like your not a genius. Take the time to install XP properly after your upgrades, and then tell me what you think Einstein(hahaha)!

I think people will have a rude awakening sometime in october when microsoft enables some of the additional security function on the Windows Update page.

Basically any Corporate serial found in the wild by microsoft will probably get killed and people using it will have their OS shut down.

So make sure you have an image of your disk at least through november.

What kind of rude awakening will users with generated keys be in for? The live update wont work? Big deal. Microsoft broke it for a large number of legit users when they started screwing around with it a few months ago. How hard do you think it's going to be for someone to get the updates? Most likely easier than it is for legit owners to get them.

The rude awakening they will get will be more than no access to Windows Update... it will be more like no access to your system. Microsoft has the right and the full ability to prevent your system from booting up. I believe there may even be a way to prevent that disc from being readable until you legitimize your WinXP install. So if you think it's a not too serious threat, then go ahead and keep using your stolen version.

how does microsoft have the right to damage my computer? the law suits alone that that would cuase prevents microsoft from messing with my os!

Actually, it's their OS, you just own a license to use it, you do now own the software. The computer on the other hand is yours, and if they do anything to damage the actual hardware, then you have a case. Of course, IF you didn't purchase your copy of Windows, you have no leg to stand on.

Back street lawyers are showing thier ignorance.

MS is liable for consequential damages such as lost data, lost work time if they mess with your system. Their only recourse is to sue you for the cost of purchasing a license.

OK, so sue someone for $150.00. Why do you think warez are so prevellent? So sue me for $50.00. Yeah, right.

"Back street lawyers are showing thier ignorance."

You really shoudl check your facts first It would have stopped you from looking so foolish.

"MS is liable for consequential damages such as lost data, lost work time if they mess with your system."

100% wrong. Perhaps you need to go back and read the language in the agreement under which you are allowed to use the OS. Microsoft is not liable for any damages, lost data, lost time, etc.

In addtion, the damage in question is a direct result of illegal actions on your part (stolen/pirated copy of the OS) In the US at least, this equates to an automatic judgement against you in court.

"Their only recourse is to sue you for the cost of purchasing a license."

Ridiculous. They can also press changes and have you prosecuted for violation of the DMCA and theft.

oh come on, stop spreading FUD. we know windows update wont accept blacklisted keys in a while, but the OS will still work. Worst case: ms does something to the MBR preventing you to boot winxp. So what? You can boot to another OS move your data and install another OS in top of it to fix it.

And that's not going to happen, i'm sure the DOJ would love that

For those of you that have unoffical copies, you might want to check this out- http://www.intelligentx..../story_tech7_082902.cfm

Polar~

Yes I own a legal copy. I also own the FCKGW release because I like to play. SP1 works fine with no ill effects on the dell version. Unfortunatly the cracks & keygens are out and they work fine for it. Advanced the clock 10 years, tried the MS site no ill effects. Whats out there simply allows you to change the key to anything and without activation. This time MS is beat already with SP1

You can advance your clock to infinity and beyond, you're missing the point, they won't actually add the code-checks into the windows update until sometime in october.

The only way to bypass this thing is not to use a publicly known key. So a Key-Gen should be ok, unless microsoft actually have a list of all shipped keys (doubtful).

Depends. Would they have a database of Home/Pro keys? Probably not, that's tough. But what about corporate keys?

They do have a database of corporate keys.

Tough call. I feel by releasing any update package like SP1 they just open themselves to improper useage of an app. Large updates are cracked, first updates being most important, containing most of the most obvious issue fixes, do I really need to worry so much about following single updates. SP1 fixes most issues and gets me by until SP2 ,by tracking serial #'s on their server does not stop one, single updates will always be available somewhere anyway if ya need them. Don't forget, I am a legal user, just like to see how far I can go otherwise, like to play. So you use SP1 and wait, system is so stable anyway.

regards,

They probably do have lists of all the keys they've released. After all this is the Remond Base, and he has the man power to do it. Bill could pay a team of people to sit at terminals till the end of the century and just type out serials, and it still wouldn't put a dent in his wallet. Of course it's possible they don't have our Home or Professional serials on file, but guaranteed the Corporate serials are on file. As for using XP, how many people still use it? I tried it out but I prefer Win2k because I don't do a whole lot with my computer and I figured I'll stick to Win2k since I have no need for the newer OS with higher system requirements. I'm running a dual-boot of Win2k and XP Pro, but my uptime for win2k is at 4 weeks right now. And as for the new XP interface, I disabled that as soon as I first booted it. I'm a hardcore LiteSTEP [www.litestep.net] user. As for them being able to lock your harddrive, I doubt that. They might just edit your boot.ini, and you'd have to boot with a 98SE bootdisk and format the partition and start over. And the link above said 'has ever been used to activate the system.'. Does XP have an hidden database of all the keys you've used?
Either way I won't be downloading WinXP SP1. Can't lose my 4 week uptime.

- ports

os[Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 3 (5.0 - 2195)] uptime[3w 6d 8h 40m 37s] cpu[Pentium 3, 900MHz] mem[Usage: 106/256MB]

FYI,

A source from inside microsoft has given this info to a site, i will post it when i find it again, but the new windows update, Windows update v5, site will contain a database of all MICROSOFT GENERATED keys and compare them to the key used when installing an update via windows update. If the key isnt found, windows update doesnt work. Also, they are adding code to each of the individual update install packages that will prevent them from being installed on an invalid product key system. Once again, I will post the site when i find it again, but until then this is just an FYI. :)

And that will take about 5 minutes to crack. God, what a waste of time.

How could you possibly activate a corporate serial, when all of them don't need activation?

As someone pointed out earlier, it isnt october yet, the product key database system wont go live until early/mid october, so if you got a working key, more power to you, but we will see what happens come october. CARPE DIEM!

Hi Metshrine :)

Hi Metshrine.
Hi Theye!

You guyz are sillie!
Oh, I'm nakkid!

See ya on IRC!

...frd

is this the article you're referring to.. (lower part of the page )
http://pages.prodigy.net..._and_Service_Pack_1.htm